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2012-10-12 04:53:48 AM
I'll start taking a contraceptive pill when my wife starts investigating strange noises she hears in the middle of the night.

So basically, never.
 
2012-10-12 05:27:53 AM
Can women?

Humans are about as reliable as cats.
 
DAR
2012-10-12 06:49:04 AM
Short Answer: yes
 
2012-10-12 07:12:19 AM
Yeah I woulda been all over that thing back in the day.
 
2012-10-12 07:13:54 AM
Some of them.
 
2012-10-12 07:43:38 AM
I have to think this would be very high on the list of things men could be trusted to do.
 
2012-10-12 07:45:33 AM

doglover: Can women?

Humans are about as reliable as cats.


My cat is very reliable. She doesn't do what I want her to, but I can rely on her to act like a cat.

At least she's reliable about using the litter box.
 
2012-10-12 07:49:14 AM
I like how the lists of things men "forget" are all things they just don't want to do.

I don't want a kid, I would not forget.
 
2012-10-12 07:52:05 AM
I can set my cell phone alarm to remind me at the same time everyday. I can remember to carry my wallet everywhere I go. I can do anything I set my mind to.
Maybe your boyfriend can't be trusted for shiat, but he isn't me.
 
2012-10-12 07:54:03 AM
Neither can women. You're a complete farking idiot if you don't take your own steps to ensure your farkbuddy doesn't spit out a little half-you.
 
2012-10-12 07:58:10 AM
"Until our culture moves toward sexual education of young men to the same standard as that provided for young women regarding sexual health, contraception, responsibilities of pregnancy or unwanted pregnancy, and associated emotional issues, the issue of women giving up full control of contraceptive to men is academic," she says.

Uh, what?

I thought one of the main benefits of the pill that women were able to have control over their reproduction.
 
2012-10-12 07:59:00 AM
I have to take medicine every day for the rest of my life now so yes I could do this.
 
2012-10-12 08:00:18 AM
Building habits is not exactly the hardest thing to do. Trigger-Action-Reward. Set up a trigger (like an alarm in your cellphone). Respond to the trigger by performing the action (taking the pill). Reward yourself immediately afterwards (by, perhaps, rubbing one out to warm up). After a week or two, you'll have the habit down.
 
2012-10-12 08:00:57 AM
Some can, some can't. I can't. Wife is more than happy to. Even after I get snipped, she's going to stay on the pill for the fringe benefits. On the off chance we've got a playmate over, that's what condoms are for.
 
2012-10-12 08:02:05 AM
Immaterial to me. I believe in one solid rule regarding BC: ALWAYS BRING/USE YOUR OWN.
 
2012-10-12 08:03:34 AM
If it gets me twat twice a day seven days a week I'll take the pill and paint myself orange.


"Why are you orange?"
"It gets me laid twice a day."
"Oh... ok."
 
2012-10-12 08:06:59 AM
When I was married, I was always paranoid that the spouse would forget to take her pills. I would have happily taken a pill every day and been extremely responsible about it.

I got snipped last year, so I never have to worry about it again.
 
2012-10-12 08:12:27 AM
"Until our culture moves toward sexual education of young men to the same standard as that provided for young women regarding sexual health, contraception, responsibilities of pregnancy or unwanted pregnancy, and associated emotional issues, the issue of women giving up full control of contraceptive to men is academic," she says.

And yet more young women manage to get knocked up than young men.

/wait, what?
 
2012-10-12 08:18:33 AM
There's probably cultural reasons why forming a positive habit of men taking a male contraception pill may be difficult. 'The pill,' has been associated with women for so long, a lot of guys probably think of it as 'un-manly.'

Take a look at the article: But, when women complain their partners forget to take the washing off the line, can blokes be trusted to take the man-pill every day?

Yeah, referring to it like that doesn't have any implications at all.

There may also be a perception of the reduction of virility and all that crap.
 
2012-10-12 08:34:44 AM

t3knomanser: Building habits is not exactly the hardest thing to do. Trigger-Action-Reward. Set up a trigger (like an alarm in your cellphone). Respond to the trigger by performing the action (taking the pill). Reward yourself immediately afterwards (by, perhaps, rubbing one out to warm up). After a week or two, you'll have the habit down.


I think the only habit I would get by doing this is an erection every time I get a phone call.
 
2012-10-12 08:37:53 AM
If government assistance required identifying the father, followed up with force those fathers to pay for the upbringing of the child, guess what, men would suddenly become a lot more reliable about things.
 
2012-10-12 08:42:14 AM

starsrift: I think the only habit I would get by doing this is an erection every time I get a phone call.


You know how people are always saying "i just spit coffee on my monitor"?

I actually did it, when I read that.
 
2012-10-12 08:42:53 AM
My tongue is the best contraceptive. No one ever got pregnant from oral sex.
 
2012-10-12 08:48:04 AM

elementalogic: I'll start taking a contraceptive pill when my wife starts investigating strange noises she hears in the middle of the night.

So basically, never.


Maybe your wife is just tired of hearing the strange noises you make when you're jerking off in the bathroom in the middle of the night.
 
2012-10-12 08:49:45 AM
No one can be trusted to do anything. You'd better just take care of it yourself.
 
2012-10-12 08:49:49 AM
There is a very simple solution and I am ashamed you farkers have not mentioned it yet. For shame! All you have to do is put the contraceptive in beer. Problem solved. Your welcome.
 
2012-10-12 08:56:49 AM

sammyk: There is a very simple solution and I am ashamed you farkers have not mentioned it yet. For shame! All you have to do is put the contraceptive in beer. Problem solved. Your welcome.


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Likes the cut of your jib.

www.wearysloth.com

Has un-friended you on Facebook.
 
2012-10-12 08:57:03 AM
I wouldn't trust a male contraceptive to have no side effects that end up screwing me over later on down the line.
Yeah, yeah. The feds have done extensive testing on the drug, etc, etc. Whatever.

I don't trust them, or the male pill. Let the ladies deal with the pill taking.
 
2012-10-12 08:57:32 AM
Who cares if they can be trusted? I can still use my own birth control and now we're twice as safe from unwanted pregnancy.

Sounds like a win.
 
2012-10-12 09:08:08 AM
It's not so much that women have to trust men to take the pill instead of taking it themselves. It's a way for both sexes to have their own self-assurance. Both people can be on the pill. This eliminates the need for men to trust women. It brings true gender equality. Anyone against male contraception is a farking defenseless sexist clinging to female privilege in this one area.
 
2012-10-12 09:09:52 AM

skinink: elementalogic: I'll start taking a contraceptive pill when my wife starts investigating strange noises she hears in the middle of the night.

So basically, never.

Maybe your wife is just tired of hearing the strange noises you make when you're jerking off in the bathroom in the middle of the night.


Nonsense. I jerk off like a muffled ninja mongoose.
 
2012-10-12 09:10:43 AM

Tommy Moo: This eliminates the need for men to trust women.


That's the reason some women would be dead set against it.
 
2012-10-12 09:11:23 AM

elementalogic: I jerk off like a muffled ninja mongoose.


Farkied
 
2012-10-12 09:14:46 AM
Why don't they just have it make your penis glow...then you'll know for sure.
 
2012-10-12 09:17:12 AM

Tommy Moo: It's not so much that women have to trust men to take the pill instead of taking it themselves. It's a way for both sexes to have their own self-assurance. Both people can be on the pill. This eliminates the need for men to trust women. It brings true gender equality. Anyone against male contraception is a farking defenseless sexist clinging to female privilege in this one area.


This.
 
2012-10-12 09:21:02 AM

LDM90: I have to think this would be very high on the list of things men could be trusted to do.


Second - especially if you think it would cut down on the risk of the crazy girl and the old "I'm pregnant so you have to stay with me forever" plan.

/which works how often?
 
2012-10-12 09:22:27 AM
Well, I had to get the old snip snip. But if there was a male pill, I still would have gotten the snip snip. A one time $15 co-pay is much easier then having to make sure you have insurace for the rest of your life and remembering to take a pill every day.

Save hundreds of thousands in future college costs! Get a vascetomy! Yea!!
 
2012-10-12 09:36:15 AM
Why would women have to trust men to use birth control when they have such a ridiculously wide array out there to choose from? The whole point is that this gives each individual the ability to choose if he or she wants to have children. With a male birth control method available, both parties would have a veto on pregnancy.
 
2012-10-12 09:52:24 AM

meanmutton: Why would women have to trust men to use birth control when they have such a ridiculously wide array out there to choose from? The whole point is that this gives each individual the ability to choose if he or she wants to have children. With a male birth control method available, both parties would have a veto on pregnancy.


That's really the issue. Women aren't saying "I don't trust my husband." They're saying, "I like the option of getting pregnant whenever I want and going 'oops, guess the pill failed.'"
 
2012-10-12 09:53:52 AM
the nightly alarm on my phone is the only reason my girlfriend takes her pill daily.
it's...not something i forget about.
 
2012-10-12 09:59:02 AM

Freudian_slipknot: Who cares if they can be trusted? I can still use my own birth control and now we're twice as safe from unwanted pregnancy.

Sounds like a win.


The whole "I thought you were on it!" "but I thought you were on it" thing could happen for some couples.

Currently I know guys who have to remind their gf to take it. Its all so weird to me.
 
2012-10-12 10:02:35 AM
Well, no, men can't be trusted to take the pill because IT DOESN'T EXIST
 
2012-10-12 10:04:14 AM
Is it difficult to find a doctor to perform a vasectomy on a 23 year old? I'd much rather have that done and join the ranks of the non-breeders than have to remember to take a pill every day.

/forgot to take my zoloft this morning
//anxious about not taking my anxiety meds
 
2012-10-12 10:13:41 AM

Barfmaker: Yeah I woulda been all over that thing back in the day.


No shiat. Why trust a female (nothing personal) with that? Nothing personal, but mistakes happen, and worse some women are evil. Same goes for women too: Why trust the guy?

Both partners should have it, and both should use it until they're ready to have kids.
 
2012-10-12 10:14:36 AM
I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I have no problem in principle with being in charge of contraception, but I have an (admittedly irrational) hang-up about getting a vasectomy, so I'd much rather do this.

Presuming its safe and effective with few side effects.
 
2012-10-12 10:15:36 AM
A male birth control pill has as much to do with whether or not women trust them to take it as women's birth control pills have to do with men trusting them to take it.

Absolutely nothing.
 
2012-10-12 10:16:47 AM

Swoop1809: Is it difficult to find a doctor to perform a vasectomy on a 23 year old? I'd much rather have that done and join the ranks of the non-breeders than have to remember to take a pill every day.

/forgot to take my zoloft this morning
//anxious about not taking my anxiety meds


Good luck, my brother had to wait until 30. Even then it was a pain in the a$$. That was quite a few years ago though.
 
2012-10-12 10:30:26 AM

elementalogic: I jerk off like a muffled ninja mongoose.


We should form a club. We could call it the Ninjabators Society.
 
2012-10-12 10:31:34 AM
Short answer: Yes, with an "if". Long answer: No, with a "but".
 
2012-10-12 10:33:31 AM

Swoop1809: Is it difficult to find a doctor to perform a vasectomy on a 23 year old? I'd much rather have that done and join the ranks of the non-breeders than have to remember to take a pill every day.

/forgot to take my zoloft this morning
//anxious about not taking my anxiety meds


Not really. It's reversible too.
 
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