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(Guardian)   British Prime Minister David Cameron tells a Conservative party conference that Britain needs to build an "aspiration nation". Well, he's close - since most of Europe is already aspirating as they choke on their worthless Euros   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 18
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2012-10-12 07:03:19 AM
Just did a quick Google

1 euro = 1.2931 US dollars

I will take any worthless Euros you have off of your hands, submitter.
 
2012-10-12 07:07:13 AM
So much this. Euros are worthless. Being a generous human being, I will gladly offer $1 USD for every €1 EUR. This offer is for everyone. And being the UK is part of Europe, the Pound is also worthless. I will also offer the same 1:1 exchange.
 
2012-10-12 07:07:37 AM
+1 Palmer that's what I first checked.
 
2012-10-12 07:20:01 AM
When the only life you tell these poor people is available to them shall be the dead end, government funded, meager existence of the dole, then what do they have to live for? What do they have to strive for? Why would they give up being out of control gang members or pregnant welfare queens when that's all the country ever tells them they're good for.

Liberals want to give these people handouts. They will only ever be able to rise up out of their squalor if they are given incentives to live in squalor, goes the thinking. It's a failed social strategy that has resulted in youths running wild in Britain.

The opposite of charity is justice, and the government should be tasked with providing justice.
 
2012-10-12 07:26:07 AM
The only way the U.K. will ever be on the "rise" again in a meaningful way is as part of the European Union. By itself, at best it can hope to be a middling second-power thanks to its security council seat and nuclear forces. But in terms of actual influence, nah.

Also, "aspiration nation"?
How about "Here to hear", "Fourth Sector Pathfinders", and "Quiet, Bat People"?
 
2012-10-12 07:35:34 AM
Funny, my US dollars are always alimightily weak whenever I go to Europe, subby.
 
2012-10-12 07:36:25 AM
Funny, my US dollars are always feeling weak whenever I go to Europe, subby.
 
2012-10-12 08:15:55 AM
And, uh, subby.... what does the Euro having worth (or not) have anything to do with the UK, which has its own currency (the Sterling)? Last I checked it was nearly two dollars to the Pound.

Not that it matters what the exchange rate is, one dollar will get you roughly what a pound will unless you compare petrol/gasoline.

That said, the Tories - Cameron and the chancellor George Gideon Oliver Osborne (I love that name... it reeks of snobbery!) - have farked up the recovery through their austerity policies. Britain is well into double-dip recession territory which they have no reason to be in, they're not even tied to a single currency like the Euro.

/rant over
 
2012-10-12 08:37:34 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: When the only life you tell these poor people is available to them shall be the dead end, government funded, meager existence of the dole, then what do they have to live for? What do they have to strive for?


Liberals would say things like self-respect, higher purposes, their own goals, and so on, and for people whose personalities run that way, modern entitlement systems actually work pretty well: anecdotes exist for people who got out and became CEOs, heads of state, and other figures. The failure wasn't in the theory's accuracy.

The failure was in the theory's precision: as it turns out, one size doesn't fit all. If modern psychology is to be believed, it doesn't even fit the majority, and statistics seem to bear that out: figures have barely budged, and by some measures have actually gone up, so for all these anecdotes of people getting out, more are trapped. For those it doesn't fit, you keep them alive without giving them what they actually need to get out, and so, predictably, they don't get out. These people aren't being helped; they're being enabled.
 
2012-10-12 08:50:35 AM
Farkplug, you said "Funny, my US dollars are always feeling weak whenever I go to Europe, subby." twice.

You must really like "Funny, my US dollars are always feeling weak whenever I go to Europe, subby."
 
2012-10-12 08:54:59 AM

Palmer Eldritch: Just did a quick Google

1 euro = 1.2931 US dollars

I will take any worthless Euros you have off of your hands, submitter.


I did the same before I even clicked the thread, and the value has gone up since you posted.

1 euro = 1.2943 US dollars

Subby reminds me of the people who still talk about the Canadian dollar like it's a joke.

1 US dollar = 0.9773 Canadian dollars

This is bad - for Harper.
 
2012-10-12 08:56:53 AM

magic_patch: Farkplug, you said "Funny, my US dollars are always feeling weak whenever I go to Europe, subby." twice.

You must really like "Funny, my US dollars are always feeling weak whenever I go to Europe, subby."


Actually, he said "alimightily" instead of "feeling" the first time around.
 
2012-10-12 09:36:56 AM
So if the UK ends up pulling out of the EU, anyone think perhaps Scotland would go independent after the vote in 2014 and then join the EU? Only part of the island of Britain (England, Wales, maybe NI?) being independent and surrounded by the EU in every direction including the norther half of the island doesn't sound like a path to success.
 
2012-10-12 09:50:32 AM
i.imgur.com

I call App Britain.
 
2012-10-12 09:51:16 AM

WorldCitizen: So if the UK ends up pulling out of the EU, anyone think perhaps Scotland would go independent after the vote in 2014 and then join the EU? Only part of the island of Britain (England, Wales, maybe NI?) being independent and surrounded by the EU in every direction including the norther half of the island doesn't sound like a path to success.


Scotland joining the EU would be likely, but the Eurozone wouldn't allow them in immediately. There will be massive scrutiny on any new country wanting to adopt the euro, and Scotland massive public sector and contracting private sector will not help matters. Likewise, Scotland's First Minister is more enthusiastic about staying with the pound (for now), considering the economic problems in the Eurozone.
 
2012-10-12 09:53:19 AM
Cameron is a windbag with no ideas.
 
2012-10-12 10:38:37 AM
"aspiration"

British consumers tried that already, using their credit cards and home equity to buy shiat.

that's one major reason why Britain's economy isn't great now (much like here).

Britain as a second major problem: trade. For years, Brits have been wary of the euro, predicting that the Euro-zone economies would collapse. However, they didn't diversify their exports away from euro-zone countries...instead they increased trade with them.

so the British may have made the right prediction, they didn't put their money where their mouth is. Pretty farking stupid.
 
2012-10-12 11:35:49 AM

Seth'n'Spectrum: The only way the U.K. will ever be on the "rise" again in a meaningful way is as part of the European Union. By itself, at best it can hope to be a middling second-power thanks to its security council seat and nuclear forces. But in terms of actual influence, nah.

Also, "aspiration nation"?
How about "Here to hear", "Fourth Sector Pathfinders", and "Quiet, Bat People"?


As long as it can be described as a self consuming cake..
 
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