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(YouTube)   Remember an old show you liked? One that came back? Then was ruined by something stupid? Red Dwarf is back, and every second is filled with a laugh track. EVERY SECOND   (youtube.com) divider line 30
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2012-10-12 03:47:20 AM  
This season was actually filmed in front of a studio audience, just like they used to do it in the old days.
 
2012-10-12 11:24:44 AM  
Only 8-9 seconds of that 30 second video had laugh track, so I think subby doesn't know the definition of "every"

/timing of the laughs seemed appropriate too
 
2012-10-12 11:32:25 AM  
Remember that one submission where the submitter lied his ass off?
 
2012-10-12 11:42:48 AM  
 
2012-10-12 11:52:29 AM  
Is Paul Ryan submitting headlines now?
 
2012-10-12 11:59:55 AM  

ShawnDoc: Is Paul Ryan submitting headlines now?


"This episode has a laugh track running EVERY SECOND, but we don't have time for me to show you my calculations. Rest assured, It's true."
 
Xai
2012-10-12 12:24:50 PM  
Yeah it is actually good, not a faked laugh track added on at all.
 
2012-10-12 01:29:10 PM  
Whether fake or real, English laugh tracks are bad. And English laughers should feel bad.
 
2012-10-12 02:07:37 PM  
I have been watching this for the past two weeks online (since I don't live where I can get DAVE TV) and I have to say they have the old feel of the show down well. It helps that the original cast is back, just a little older, but not wiser. The new season is better than the previous few seasons (if you don't count the movie as a season), and almost as good as the first few seasons. I wish it was a longer season though, there are only going to be 6 episodes total and 2 are already out there.
 
2012-10-12 02:32:52 PM  
I agree that the laugh track is overwhelming. It is louder than the actual dialog and cuts into almost every punchline. The sound mixer needs beaten profusely with a boom mike.
 
2012-10-12 02:46:34 PM  
Subby is a smeghead.
 
2012-10-12 02:56:01 PM  
That track was so smegging smurfing terrible that I just want to smurf the smeghead out of here
 
2012-10-12 04:15:55 PM  
We were disappointed it wasn't showing in the US yet, so we had to watch it online.
 
2012-10-12 06:33:34 PM  
am i the only one that hates this show? it is not even science fiction. it s a shiatty sitcom on a spaceship.
 
2012-10-12 06:43:19 PM  
what the hell is this crap?
 
2012-10-12 07:08:36 PM  
It's better than Season VII that had no laugh track, live or canned, at all.
 
2012-10-12 07:13:00 PM  

some_beer_drinker: am i the only one that hates this show? it is not even science fiction. it s a shiatty sitcom on a spaceship.


You should start a support group.
 
2012-10-12 07:53:48 PM  
I just finished hating on some DW, so take that in mind when I say this season's first RD episode was pretty funny. A bit average, but not like the awkward p.o.s. that was last year's mini-series. Which is what this "season" really is anyway.

I am getting SO FED UP with the new trend of splitting a "season" of 7 episodes over two years. You tv execs want a show to die? Fine, your show is dead. And so is your network and your gravy train.
 
2012-10-12 08:25:47 PM  

MessyDwarf: I agree that the laugh track is overwhelming. It is louder than the actual dialog and cuts into almost every punchline. The sound mixer needs beaten profusely with a boom mike.


It's filmed live in front of an real live audience.

Ed Finnerty: Subby is a smeghead.


Came here to say this.
 
2012-10-12 08:55:55 PM  

billygeek: what the hell is this crap?


Smeghead
 
2012-10-12 09:06:41 PM  

weapon13: MessyDwarf: I agree that the laugh track is overwhelming. It is louder than the actual dialog and cuts into almost every punchline. The sound mixer needs beaten profusely with a boom mike.

It's filmed live in front of an real live audience.

That doesn't change the fact the sound mix is terrible. There has to be mikes piking up the audience reaction and they need to be turned down.

 
2012-10-12 10:28:37 PM  
I actually enjoyed these first two episodes. Quality writing for a sitcom.
/chinese whiskers
 
2012-10-13 03:10:31 AM  

Austinoftx: I just finished hating on some DW, so take that in mind when I say this season's first RD episode was pretty funny. A bit average, but not like the awkward p.o.s. that was last year's mini-series. Which is what this "season" really is anyway.

I am getting SO FED UP with the new trend of splitting a "season" of 7 episodes over two years. You tv execs want a show to die? Fine, your show is dead. And so is your network and your gravy train.


It's nothing new. Comedies in Britain are commissioned as a series of six episodes with additional series commissioned if they prove successful. It's been this way for decades. There are three reasons for this:

1. It's far less expensive and permits the annual budget to be spread out amongst a greater variety of programmes. Additionally, commissioners are more likely to take a chance on a new idea with the smaller investment of time and money.

2. Most comedies in the UK, sitcoms in particular, are written and conceived entirely by one or two people. It's far more personal and consistent than the American standard in which different people write different episodes within the much longer season. The general consensus is that six good episodes is better than 24 episodes of varying quality.

3. The shorter shooting schedule allows the cast and crew to work on other projects in between series. Many actors and comedians split their time amongst stage, television and radio.
 
2012-10-13 04:09:36 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Austinoftx: I just finished hating on some DW, so take that in mind when I say this season's first RD episode was pretty funny. A bit average, but not like the awkward p.o.s. that was last year's mini-series. Which is what this "season" really is anyway.

I am getting SO FED UP with the new trend of splitting a "season" of 7 episodes over two years. You tv execs want a show to die? Fine, your show is dead. And so is your network and your gravy train.

It's nothing new. Comedies in Britain are commissioned as a series of six episodes with additional series commissioned if they prove successful. It's been this way for decades. There are three reasons for this:

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Just saw the new episode. RD really delivered this time. The episode puttered around with some amusing character development, then wrapped up with a sudden crisis of ridiculous proportions. Good shiat. Laugh track wasn't overwhelming. Maybe some people need to turn their surround sound off so the mix isn't distorted?


Bennet: It's all well and good for tv executives to save money and minimize their risk. Although I'm USAian, I know UK has it's own tradition as far as television seasons. It's quite nice when one talented writer and director takes the reigns and provides a sense of consistency to a show. And I imagine it's very convenient for actors to be able to mix it up each year in a wide variety of venues.

But personally, I don't give a flying goddamn.

I have no congratulations for thrifty, cautious television executives. Doctor Who is wildly popular world wide. I think they can risk a 12-24 episode schedule each year. No kudos for polymath thespians. I'm not part of some supposed artistic movement of quality over quantity. I just want my hour of escapist scifi each week and I don't care if it means some lesser writers and directors get involved.

There are literally thousands of good writers and directors, you know. If we turn the whole 6-episode-per-year story arc over to the Great Author Gaylord, and his concept stinks, it means I'll be waiting 12-24 months to find out if a show, which I may no longer love, got renewed or not. More episodes in a season gives a show a chance to recover from a few lame bits.

What in hell is going on over there in UK? Don't the networks need to consider the attention span of the public, and the momentum of the show? If it wasn't for reminders on Fark, I'd have forgotten Red Dwarf and Doctor Who were even still on. At this rate, my memories of the David Tennant episodes will be as foggy as the Tom Baker ones I saw ages ago. Kids in the USA love DW, but they don't think of it as a TV series. They think of it as several specials that come on every year or two.
 
2012-10-13 07:51:50 AM  
same shiat the first five seasons... continuous laugh track by live studio audience.

its a monty python thing, subby obviously don't get it
 
2012-10-13 12:55:11 PM  

Smashed Hat: This season was actually filmed in front of a studio audience, just like they used to do it in the old days.


When the audience is told when to laugh, it's no different than a laugh track.
 
2012-10-13 05:40:01 PM  

Troy McClure: Smashed Hat: This season was actually filmed in front of a studio audience, just like they used to do it in the old days.

When the audience is told when to laugh, it's no different than a laugh track.


Are you also saying that they all laughed ONLY when told to, that none of the laughter was real at all?
 
2012-10-14 01:54:08 AM  
I've sen a "live" studio audience being taped. Sure, some laughter is genuine, but the signals indicating when to laugh sure help, especially on the third take of a scene.
 
2012-10-14 04:41:28 AM  

Austinoftx: What in hell is going on over there in UK? Don't the networks need to consider the attention span of the public, and the momentum of the show? If it wasn't for reminders on Fark, I'd have forgotten Red Dwarf and Doctor Who were even still on. At this rate, my memories of the David Tennant episodes will be as foggy as the Tom Baker ones I saw ages ago. Kids in the USA love DW, but they don't think of it as a TV series. They think of it as several specials that come on every year or two.


British television (and film) isn't made with anyone in mind aside from the British viewing public. With a total population of about 65 million in the UK, the audience for comedies isn't large enough to justify the expense at the potential loss of quality and consistency. Soap operas are made in volume as they do command a huge audience. Chat shows and reality TV are cheap and appeal to the lowest common denominator, so they spread like a plague. Comedy producers and writers have to sell themselves on quality alone to get a piece of what little funding there is.

It can be quite frustrating at times. I have met many people in the industry who are utterly convinced that no one outside of the UK has any interest whatsoever in British film and television, and that our own public are more interested in American programming than our own. To a point they are right. The US has far more to spend, produces quite a lot of excellent quality programming and receives far more publicity. The British industry relies heavily on public money and BBC licence fees to survive, and we all know it. I do my best to bring in some of the rebellious spirit of American independent cinema but it's an uphill battle at even the best of times.

I know I've gone off topic, forgive. Call it a pet peeve. The answer to your question, in short, is that we don't have the means or the courage to compete directly in the much larger American market and consequently can't get a hold of the finances or the long-term commitment needed to produce consistently over the long US TV season for anything actually good enough to export.
 
2012-10-14 04:59:07 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Austinoftx: What in hell is going on over there in UK?

British television (and film) isn't made with anyone in mind aside from the British viewing public.

 

It should be said that I'm thinking of the USA's new trend of ultra-short "seasons" too. And I distinctly remember UK shows having more episodes per year, not too long ago. It's almost like the networks are trying to drive me to the Internet for entertainment.... ;)
 
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