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2012-10-12 12:09:20 AM  
Jesus. They identified a security hole and fixed it almost immediately. THE HORROR!
 
2012-10-12 12:37:12 AM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-12 12:53:40 AM  
I think my latest version is 3, then suddenly they got whole version numbers every three months!
 
2012-10-12 12:56:08 AM  
I just got the prompt and updated FF about 10 minutes ago.

Jeebus, I guess the record of all my /b/ site visits has been compromised...
 
2012-10-12 12:59:05 AM  
Why havent we learned the lessons from the first browser war?

Throwing shiat out there with new spanky features concerned only to make people go "ooooooo shiny" will inevitably end up with massive bugs and security issues. IE and Netscape showed that when a company only cared about cramming as many new features into a release as possible, their product really sucked ass from all the problems.
 
2012-10-12 01:54:54 AM  
In the browser wars, nothing is a given
 
2012-10-12 03:39:17 AM  
Fark these upgrades, I'm thinking I am gonna need to back some bits up, uninstall my browser entirely and re-install older version 5 again.

It's turned into a complete slug with all the built-up old crap from earlier updates that I can't remove.
 
2012-10-12 05:35:55 AM  

cman: Throwing shiat out there with new spanky features concerned only to make people go "ooooooo shiny" will inevitably end up with massive bugs and security issues. IE and Netscape showed that when a company only cared about cramming as many new features into a release as possible, their product really sucked ass from all the problems.


This is a Windows thing?
 
2012-10-12 06:09:48 AM  
I just stopped using f*cking Firefox. I really liked all the add-ons that FF had accumulated, but with about half of them broken because of their constant updates what farking good are they?

I'm just sticking with Chrome now. Maybe Chrome will disappoint me again in the near future and herd me back over to FF. Or, FSM forbid, Opera.
 
2012-10-12 06:09:52 AM  
I guess "dot-1" revisions are now officially out of style?
 
2012-10-12 07:00:51 AM  

ZipSplat: I just stopped using f*cking Firefox. I really liked all the add-ons that FF had accumulated, but with about half of them broken because of their constant updates what farking good are they?

I'm just sticking with Chrome now. Maybe Chrome will disappoint me again in the near future and herd me back over to FF. Or, FSM forbid, Opera.


What wrong with Opera?
 
2012-10-12 07:15:55 AM  
I use Chrome.

"Its better to be the right hand of the devil than in his path."
 
2012-10-12 07:21:02 AM  
Gave up on Firefox after they refused to fix the autocomplete bug. You know, the one where even if you try to force it to go http: it goes ftp: or https: and you get the wrong page, and there's no workaround other than totally turning off autocomplete. Lots of complaints, and they're just like "well, we can't do it any other way..." Idiots.
 
2012-10-12 07:28:19 AM  
I use the Pale Moon version of firefox. They usually tweak the latest release a bit before they update.

Link

/ it's a windows version only
 
2012-10-12 08:14:11 AM  

ZipSplat: I just stopped using f*cking Firefox. I really liked all the add-ons that FF had accumulated, but with about half of them broken because of their constant updates what farking good are they?

I'm just sticking with Chrome now. Maybe Chrome will disappoint me again in the near future and herd me back over to FF. Or, FSM forbid, Opera.


That's what I've done on occasion too. I'll get frustrated with FF's memory usage and migrate to Chrome. Then I'll miss flashblock and go back to FF.

What I need is Chrome with add-ins.
 
2012-10-12 08:28:32 AM  
So, they immediately fixed a security bug in a new release that actually used to be a standard browser "feature" in all browsers.

/don't know if the bug was the CSS-visited-link "bug" but it was apparently similar in that all it did was expose browser history
 
2012-10-12 08:33:04 AM  

mr_a: I guess "dot-1" revisions are now officially out of style?


At least for browsers. They were kinda pointless. You would think that a new n.0 release would mean that the whole browser looked different and had a whole new set of features, but that really wasn't the case. No company was out there releasing "point" releases and then saving all the good features for later. You might also think that, say, an extension (adblock, firebug, etc) would work the same between 3.1 and 3.2, but that wasn't true either. Extension developers were still having to test and double-test their extensions between "point" releases.
 
2012-10-12 08:59:12 AM  
Jebus christ Farking FLASH!!11!! I hate adobe flash with a billion passions!!1! After 15+ years they could make a stable version.

/Firefox crashed on espn for the 3rd time
///Fark espn too
///rant off
 
2012-10-12 09:19:30 AM  
I've been running 3.6 stable and happy for years now, but recently it's started auto-loading the "check your addons" tab every time i open it. I turned off all the update alerts and timers in about:config, but it's still doing it. Anyone else running into this and/or solved it? I know it's server side rather than an update i installed. To test, i fired up a laptop running the same version that i hadn't used in months. As soon as i opened it, that tab popped up.
 
2012-10-12 09:19:49 AM  

ZipSplat: I just stopped using f*cking Firefox. I really liked all the add-ons that FF had accumulated, but with about half of them broken because of their constant updates what farking good are they?


Here's an add-on you missed: Nightly Tester Tools

One of its functions is to force add-on compatibility. I've been using it for a couple of years now with no problems.

I also switched over to FF Nightly, so I'm already using 19.0a1.
 
2012-10-12 09:20:11 AM  

bob_ross: Jesus. They identified a security hole and fixed it almost immediately. THE HORROR!


My thoughts exactly. They were on top of it and fixed it within hours. You could fault the beta testers for not finding it, but the bottom line is that it was found quickly, fixed, and resolved.
 
2012-10-12 09:30:49 AM  
Heh, Lynx still seems to be pretty solid.
 
2012-10-12 09:38:47 AM  
Firefox? Pfft..

How men update their browser..

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-12 09:44:49 AM  
this crap combined with the abhorrent GUI changes are why I'm still using an ancient version of firefox.

//I would switch but botnets, bloat and lolmicrosoft not to mention plugins that do more for my security than my antivirus
 
2012-10-12 09:45:54 AM  

styckx:

How men update their browser..
]


Very old men.
 
2012-10-12 09:57:11 AM  

Caelistis: Very old men.


I download things through a shell all the time. Server Core + Powershell FTMFingW

/ but, no, seriously, fark FF and its three-times-a-day-wanting-to-update bullshiat.
 
2012-10-12 10:08:43 AM  
I only use w3.
 
2012-10-12 10:14:52 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Caelistis: Very old men.

I download things through a shell all the time. Server Core + Powershell FTMFingW

/ but, no, seriously, fark FF and its three-times-a-day-wanting-to-update bullshiat.


Except that screenshot's not Server Core and/or Powershell now is it?
 
Zel
2012-10-12 10:16:34 AM  
Oh god damnit, I went to help->about to see wht version it's on this morning. I guess 15.0.1 is whatever the shiat they called it last week.

Suddenly the about box started auto-updating and asked me to restart firefox.

I guess I should be grateful that security fixes are so easy, but I just wish they'd slap the "4." on the front of this shiat and call it 4.16.0.1 like it should be.
 
2012-10-12 10:17:04 AM  

bob_ross: Jesus. They identified a security hole and fixed it almost immediately. THE HORROR!


Seriously. There was a problem. They fixed it. Whoop-de-do.

Call me when Chrome's adblock stops ads in streaming video and maybe I'll try it again. I like it on the iPad though.
 
2012-10-12 10:18:30 AM  

cman: Why havent we learned the lessons from the first browser war?

Throwing shiat out there with new spanky features concerned only to make people go "ooooooo shiny" will inevitably end up with massive bugs and security issues. IE and Netscape showed that when a company only cared about cramming as many new features into a release as possible, their product really sucked ass from all the problems.


This; sadly, this.
 
2012-10-12 10:32:56 AM  

forteblast: bob_ross: Jesus. They identified a security hole and fixed it almost immediately. THE HORROR!

Seriously. There was a problem. They fixed it. Whoop-de-do.

Call me when Chrome's adblock stops ads in streaming video and maybe I'll try it again. I like it on the iPad though.


It's not perfect, but AdBlock seems to black most of the streaming ads in the videos these days.
 
2012-10-12 10:40:47 AM  
Sounds like subby uses Chrome 25
 
2012-10-12 11:17:19 AM  
I had to force mine back to 15 because there is something wrong with 16.0.1 that causes menus and bookmark folders to be transparent when clicked on.
 
2012-10-12 11:24:46 AM  

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 700x462]


I can't stop laughing at Special IEd there.
 
2012-10-12 11:50:37 AM  

Basily Gourt: I use the Pale Moon version of firefox. They usually tweak the latest release a bit before they update.

Link

/ it's a windows version only


Thanks for the link; I'll try it out posthaste.

In return, though you may already have seen it, I leave a link for Iron, a spyware-free version of Chrome. If you must use Chrome or simply prefer it, I highly recommend it.
 
2012-10-12 12:49:04 PM  
styckx: How men update their browser..


Real men sudo apt-get the sourcecode, make a few tweaks to fix the features that the open source folks got WRONG! and then compile it themselves.
 
2012-10-12 01:16:15 PM  

Moonlightfox: this crap combined with the abhorrent GUI changes are why I'm still using an ancient version of firefox.

//I would switch but botnets, bloat and lolmicrosoft not to mention plugins that do more for my security than my antivirus


If you're still using an ancient version of Firefox, you're probably part of every botnet on Earth by now.

/no matter what browser you're using, you MUST keep it up to date.
//oh, and don't use IE
///or Safari
 
2012-10-12 01:17:37 PM  

RatMaster999: ZipSplat: I just stopped using f*cking Firefox. I really liked all the add-ons that FF had accumulated, but with about half of them broken because of their constant updates what farking good are they?

I'm just sticking with Chrome now. Maybe Chrome will disappoint me again in the near future and herd me back over to FF. Or, FSM forbid, Opera.

What wrong with Opera?


My boss claimed he couldn't get to his bank site with Opera. I just checked, looks like it's a picnic.
 
2012-10-12 01:30:40 PM  

Zel: Oh god damnit, I went to help->about to see wht version it's on this morning. I guess 15.0.1 is whatever the shiat they called it last week.

Suddenly the about box started auto-updating and asked me to restart firefox.

I guess I should be grateful that security fixes are so easy, but I just wish they'd slap the "4." on the front of this shiat and call it 4.16.0.1 like it should be.


I don't know which is worse. That they felt they had to change their numbering system because the mouth breathers and window lickers kept complaining that Chrome was version 20 while FF was 3.6.27 or that it bothers ME that they changed the system.

Or is is more than just a cosmetic change? It does get frustrating when add-on and extensions are incompatible but the main ones I use all seem to keep up. And you can turn off the auto-updating feature in Tools, Options, Advanced on the Update tab. At least then YOU can control when it updates.
 
2012-10-12 02:54:26 PM  

ZipSplat: I just stopped using f*cking Firefox. I really liked all the add-ons that FF had accumulated, but with about half of them broken because of their constant updates what farking good are they?


This.

Downloading the update now. Once installed I'll probably have to re-install Adblocker Plus and Do Not Track Plus. Oh well...it's worth it not to have to wait for ads to load and have my web activity tracked by social media sites and data miners.
 
2012-10-12 03:11:59 PM  
Tried Chrome, but as far as I'm concerned the lack of ability to put tabs in the sidebar makes it unfit for widescreen monitors.
 
2012-10-12 05:47:29 PM  

offmymeds: ZipSplat: I just stopped using f*cking Firefox. I really liked all the add-ons that FF had accumulated, but with about half of them broken because of their constant updates what farking good are they?

This.



See my previous post.
 
2012-10-12 05:58:55 PM  
If you like Firefox and its ecosystem, but don't want a new version every week, check out the Extended Support Release version

Firefox ESR

It's pitched at professional IT shops that have to maintain fleets of computers, but anyone who wants a reasonably clean and stable release of FF, that doesn't change every full moon, can install it.  It gets regular security updates, but they leave the features and functionality mostly alone.
 
2012-10-12 09:59:22 PM  

RatMaster999: ZipSplat: I just stopped using f*cking Firefox. I really liked all the add-ons that FF had accumulated, but with about half of them broken because of their constant updates what farking good are they?

I'm just sticking with Chrome now. Maybe Chrome will disappoint me again in the near future and herd me back over to FF. Or, FSM forbid, Opera.

What wrong with Opera?


Too many fat chicks, too much singing.
 
2012-10-13 12:53:04 PM  
Temporarily Qualmless 2012-10-12 05:58:55 PM

If you like Firefox and its ecosystem, but don't want a new version every week, check out the Extended Support Release version

Firefox ESR



Oh! BRILLIANT!! Farking BRILLIANT!!

One everchanging goobstopper for the unwashed peons and an honest to gods STABLE version for the whitecollar folks.

Farking brilliant.

Jesus Barking Mad Christ I'll stick with Palemoon, even though Waahh Mommy I turned it into a kludge,
because I can fix that shiat in about ten minutes.

I dunno whether to laugh or go poop on a cop car. Hm, lemme think....

*LAF* 
 
2012-10-13 02:02:38 PM  

Kittypie070: Temporarily Qualmless 2012-10-12 05:58:55 PM

If you like Firefox and its ecosystem, but don't want a new version every week, check out the Extended Support Release version

Firefox ESR


Oh! BRILLIANT!! Farking BRILLIANT!!

One everchanging goobstopper for the unwashed peons and an honest to gods STABLE version for the whitecollar folks.

Farking brilliant.

Jesus Barking Mad Christ I'll stick with Palemoon, even though Waahh Mommy I turned it into a kludge,
because I can fix that shiat in about ten minutes.

I dunno whether to laugh or go poop on a cop car. Hm, lemme think....

*LAF*


Pfft

Its either Safari or the highway

SAFARI FTW, I think
 
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