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2012-10-11 10:12:09 PM
FTA: He says he hopes to change minds, not just in the Christian community but in the LGBT one as well, and to bridge the divide in the debate over gay rights.

God-is-a-Taco: Oh bullshiat. What has the LGBT community done wrong? (not including the closeted self-hating ones inb positions of power)
It's on your side of the aisle, religious farktards.


Well, since you asked, you're a pretty good example, actually. Calling religious people "farktards," implying all religious people are stupid and intolerant, refusing to accept that some Christians are gay-positive, denying that anybody on your side of the aisle has ever or could ever do anything that added to the animosity, that kind of thing.

Dan Savage is another example.

I understand it's natural to be angry and bitter. The LBGTQ community has got a lot to be angry and bitter about. But anger can only take you so far, and bitterness is counterproductive.
 
2012-10-11 10:13:30 PM
Well, that's novel.
 
2012-10-11 10:13:50 PM
Subs, the only relevant "up to an including..." is if he sucked some KAK...
 
2012-10-11 10:15:20 PM
...the moderator just owned Ryan. Twice now.
 
2012-10-11 10:15:56 PM

Mija: Persecution? Oh please, God himself says homosexuality is an abomination and says that no homosexual can go to heaven. Any person who is truly saved loves God does not support that which God calls sin. Any time a homosexual is told the truth of their choices they claim persecution. Poor victims.

The Bible is clear on this matter.


The Bible is also clear on what clothing you should wear. Tell me, is there ointment on your head RIGHT NOW? Are you wearing only white garments? Or are you a giant farking hypocrite?
 
2012-10-11 10:21:55 PM

Erebus1954: And now a gay atheist should pretend to be a devout hetero Christian because, um, help me out here.


Because he had been pretending for his whole life?
 
2012-10-11 10:22:58 PM
This guy sounds like he's gay, and after living that life for a year decided that he changed his mind and wanted cover to explain his behavior. Somehow i can this guy telling everyone "fooled ya!".

The only person this guy fooled was himself.
 
2012-10-11 10:23:02 PM

Satanic_Hamster: God-is-a-Taco: Oh bullshiat. What has the LGBT community done wrong? (not including the closeted self-hating ones inb positions of power)
It's on your side of the aisle, religious farktards.

There's some who tend to be a bit... Down towards all Christians.


Why wouldn't they be? Many have friends that committed suicide after "Christian Love" sent a strong message that their life had no value and that they do not deserve protection under any law.

Next you're going to tell me Jews weren't big fans of Hitler.
GODWIN'D BEEYOTCH
 
2012-10-11 10:24:25 PM

No Line For Beer: Mija: Persecution? Oh please, God himself says homosexuality is an abomination and says that no homosexual can go to heaven. Any person who is truly saved loves God does not support that which God calls sin. Any time a homosexual is told the truth of their choices they claim persecution. Poor victims.

The Bible is clear on this matter.

I like to stone the people coming out of Red Lobster.


I like to be stoned going into Red Lobster.

/Or Burger King.
//Or the fridge.
 
2012-10-11 10:25:27 PM

halfof33: In other news, he has a book for sale!

Heavens, just think what would have been the reaction sales if he wrote:

"pretended I was ghey, overwhelming reaction was BFD."

Buy my book! sheep.


You make it sound like publishing a book and promoting it is a sneaky and underhanded activity.
 
2012-10-11 10:28:32 PM
Wow ... it took him a year undercover to learn something that is obvious to people who's minds are not twisted by religion.
 
2012-10-11 10:28:32 PM
So Kurek proved being gay was a choice?

// Trolling
 
2012-10-11 10:29:20 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-11 10:32:56 PM
Mija: Any time a homosexual is told the truth of their choices they claim persecution. Poor victims.

The Bible is clear on this matter.


You are possessed by the devil, of that there is no doubt.

My sister has two gay sons and was persecuted mercilessly by the Baptist church members, despite being a founding member. Where is the Bible clear on taking it out on those who are related?
 
2012-10-11 10:33:27 PM

Marine1: No Line For Beer: Mija: Persecution? Oh please, God himself says homosexuality is an abomination and says that no homosexual can go to heaven. Any person who is truly saved loves God does not support that which God calls sin. Any time a homosexual is told the truth of their choices they claim persecution. Poor victims.

The Bible is clear on this matter.

I like to stone the people coming out of Red Lobster.

I find it amusing how Jews don't seem to care anymore about that sort of thing, but er... "Christians"... do, even though absolutely no mention of it is made in the New Testament.

Christians is in quotes, because people who behave that way shouldn't get that name, whether they want it or not.


Jews, ime, have both seen persecution more recently than christians, as well as (and yea this is a stereotype I know) respect education.
In my experience the educated are thst much less likely to worry about their neighbors' business and definitely less quick to scapegoat.

Beyond that, Jews have to see that as a minority it would be foolish to push a belief that the values of the majority take precedence. Many christians believe otherwise.
 
2012-10-11 10:33:54 PM
So, the guy goes out of his way to see society from another perspective and increase his understanding of the world and himself... yeah, I can see why that kind of thing makes some farkers angry and confused.
 
2012-10-11 10:34:34 PM
"Pink Like Me"
 
2012-10-11 10:45:34 PM

ciberido:
Well, since you asked, you're a pretty good example, actually. Calling religious people "farktards," implying all religious people are stupid and intolerant, refusing to accept that some Christians are gay-positive, denying that anybody on your side of the aisle has ever or could ever do anything that added to the animosity, that kind of thing.

Dan Savage is another example.

I understand it's natural to be angry and bitter. The LBGTQ community has got a lot to be angry and bitter about. But anger can only take you so far, and bitterness is counterproductive.


If I hurt someone's feelings by saying "hey, this fight is one-sided" then I don't know what to say.

These are people that condemn homosexuals to misery at best, with torture and death at worst. They speak for God as much as you or any book.
If I hurt someone's feelings by saying "hey, this fight is one-sided" then I don't know what to say.

Money is still being spent today in Africa, with money from the enlightened West, to increase persecution against homosexuals- including the death penalty.
The Catholic Church... well, we all know about that. I'll just remind you that they have campaigns for restricting access to contraception in Africa, like condoms. God loves AIDS.

If I hurt someone's feelings by saying "hey, this fight is one-sided" then I don't know what to say.
We are doomed to go through these pangs until people live for today instead of a paradise promised to them once they die.


/Oh, and I'm not in any letter of LGBT unless you add an A for those people that add "ally". Ally to humanity instead of God
 
2012-10-11 10:46:22 PM

GungFu: Now if he can only rid himself of that fairy-tale that has guided his life for so long and so damagingly.


Phrasing!
 
2012-10-11 10:48:02 PM
Man, his folks must have been PSYCHED when it turned out he was just joking.

Now every dad whose son comes out of the closet will be secretly hoping its just a gag.

Still, a pretty neat experiment if he's on the level.
 
2012-10-11 10:51:31 PM
This guy is gayer than Richard Simmons' dick. He just wanted to give it a trial run before coming out for real.
 
2012-10-11 10:52:16 PM
Some people will use any excuse to suck a dick.
 
2012-10-11 10:57:24 PM

FirstNationalBastard: ProfessorOhki: - Only three people knew the truth, and he needed them to carry out his audacious project: his closest friend, an aunt and Shawn, a gay friend whom Kurek also met at karaoke night.
- Kind-hearted Shawn, whom Kurek described as "a big black burly teddy bear," became his "pretend boyfriend."
- For credibility, Kurek learned to hold hands and embrace.
- But most of all, Shawn was the "first gay person that I let into my heart," said Kurek. "He was totally there for me through emotional turmoil ... I trusted him.
- "He knew I was straight and he didn't take it too far -- and he taught me not to be afraid."



Ah, he only put the head in.


It's never just the tip.
 
2012-10-11 10:57:48 PM

wambu: Some people will use any excuse to suck a dick.


trying to be funny? or just a gigantic asshole? not sure which.
 
2012-10-11 11:01:21 PM
God-is-a-Taco:
These are people that condemn homosexuals to misery at best, with torture and death at worst.

That's idiotic. There are lots of religious people who don't condemn homosexuals, and wouldn't dream of torturing and killing them. Many actively support gay rights.

Ally to humanity instead of God

Calling people farktards and assuming they are evil and hateful because they hold some irrational but common belief is not being allied to humanity, when it is so very, very human to hold irrational beliefs.
 
2012-10-11 11:01:28 PM

Equilibrist: Hero tag asks for proof.


Yeah, read this earlier and thought this was just a dry run for him.
 
2012-10-11 11:03:20 PM
Hey's done a tremendous service to gay sons everywhere- who can now just tell their parents it was all a social experiment, and nevermind, he's not really gay, and let's not ask any more questions, shall we?
 
2012-10-11 11:03:24 PM
Bottom line is any judgement with be gods, let it go religious people.
 
2012-10-11 11:06:37 PM
He chose today, National Coming Out Day and LGBT National History Month, to launch book sales . . .


sort of says it all as far as I'm concerned. So yes, I do doubt his sincerity at all levels.

To me, sincerity is worn not spoken so.
 
2012-10-11 11:07:03 PM

God-is-a-Taco: He says he hopes to change minds, not just in the Christian community but in the LGBT one as well, and to bridge the divide in the debate over gay rights.

Oh bullshiat. What has the LGBT community done wrong? (not including the closeted self-hating ones inb positions of power)
It's on your side of the aisle, religious farktards.

Instead of your infallible book being wrong about something again, you're going to give it a 509th interpretation, and this time we mean it.


I can tell you what they have done wrong, trying to force people into acceptance.

You can't force acceptance, it has to be explained.
 
2012-10-11 11:07:52 PM

Marine1: No Line For Beer: Mija: Persecution? Oh please, God himself says homosexuality is an abomination and says that no homosexual can go to heaven. Any person who is truly saved loves God does not support that which God calls sin. Any time a homosexual is told the truth of their choices they claim persecution. Poor victims.

The Bible is clear on this matter.

I like to stone the people coming out of Red Lobster.

I find it amusing how Jews don't seem to care anymore about that sort of thing, but er... "Christians"... do, even though absolutely no mention of it is made in the New Testament.

Christians is in quotes, because people who behave that way shouldn't get that name, whether they want it or not.


Romans chapter 1
 
2012-10-11 11:09:37 PM

God-is-a-Taco: ciberido:
Well, since you asked, you're a pretty good example, actually. Calling religious people "farktards," implying all religious people are stupid and intolerant, refusing to accept that some Christians are gay-positive, denying that anybody on your side of the aisle has ever or could ever do anything that added to the animosity, that kind of thing.

Dan Savage is another example.

I understand it's natural to be angry and bitter. The LBGTQ community has got a lot to be angry and bitter about. But anger can only take you so far, and bitterness is counterproductive.

If I hurt someone's feelings by saying "hey, this fight is one-sided" then I don't know what to say.

These are people that condemn homosexuals to misery at best, with torture and death at worst. They speak for God as much as you or any book.
If I hurt someone's feelings by saying "hey, this fight is one-sided" then I don't know what to say.

Money is still being spent today in Africa, with money from the enlightened West, to increase persecution against homosexuals- including the death penalty.
The Catholic Church... well, we all know about that. I'll just remind you that they have campaigns for restricting access to contraception in Africa, like condoms. God loves AIDS.

If I hurt someone's feelings by saying "hey, this fight is one-sided" then I don't know what to say.
We are doomed to go through these pangs until people live for today instead of a paradise promised to them once they die.


/Oh, and I'm not in any letter of LGBT unless you add an A for those people that add "ally". Ally to humanity instead of God


Yeah Muslims have death for gays, not Christians, they just mock gays.
 
2012-10-11 11:11:53 PM
This is what a Christian is supposed to be.
 
2012-10-11 11:14:05 PM

anuran: This is what a Christian is supposed to be.


This is what more young Christians are, he just wanted a book deal and an excuse to suck dick for a year.
 
2012-10-11 11:14:34 PM

Marcintosh: He chose today, National Coming Out Day and LGBT National History Month, to launch book sales . . .


sort of says it all as far as I'm concerned. So yes, I do doubt his sincerity at all levels.


Having a sound publishing strategy means you're dishonest? I don't get it.
 
2012-10-11 11:16:20 PM
Pfffft, BFD. John Ritter did it for years.
 
2012-10-11 11:16:29 PM

Dansker: Marcintosh: He chose today, National Coming Out Day and LGBT National History Month, to launch book sales . . .


sort of says it all as far as I'm concerned. So yes, I do doubt his sincerity at all levels.

Having a sound publishing strategy means you're dishonest? I don't get it.


Its an ulterior motive.
 
2012-10-11 11:18:26 PM

No Line For Beer: Mija: Persecution? Oh please, God himself says homosexuality is an abomination and says that no homosexual can go to heaven. Any person who is truly saved loves God does not support that which God calls sin. Any time a homosexual is told the truth of their choices they claim persecution. Poor victims.

The Bible is clear on this matter.

I like to stone the people coming out of Red Lobster.


Probably a troll, but no, the Bible doesn't say that. What the Bible says about who goes to Heaven and Hell is something you don't know about.
 
2012-10-11 11:19:26 PM

Dansker: You make it sound like publishing a book and promoting it is a sneaky and underhanded activity.


Hmmm, too subtle?

Say, Jenny McCarthy likes to rub her boobs against other boobs! I hope she writes a book about it!
 
2012-10-11 11:19:29 PM
Article Summary: "Buy my book!"
 
2012-10-11 11:21:19 PM

FormlessOne: NannyStatePark: Imagine truly believing hell is real and people you love are burning in torment forever. It's like they are giving themselves PTSD constantly. No wonder they are crazy. They deserve pity.

It's the carrot and the stick, in theological form. "If you misbehave here, you will suffer an eternity of torment. If you behave here, you will enjoy an eternity of happiness." For some folks, it never occurs to them to unyoke themselves from that cart - they pull the cart, knowing that if they're good, they will enjoy the carrot of Heaven, and if they're bad, they will suffer the stick of Hell, without ever understanding what it is, exactly, they're supposed to do to be good. Their book is riddled with inconsistencies and nigh-impossible scenarios, their clergy enjoy many of the things their lay followers aren't supposed to enjoy, and ultimately it matters not because there's no evidence of either carrot or stick - just the lurid threats, flowing praise, and somewhat polished propaganda urging the laity to believe in the carrot and the stick.

It's a fantastic schtick.


This isn't accurate.
 
2012-10-11 11:21:37 PM

steamingpile: Dansker: Marcintosh: He chose today, National Coming Out Day and LGBT National History Month, to launch book sales . . .


sort of says it all as far as I'm concerned. So yes, I do doubt his sincerity at all levels.

Having a sound publishing strategy means you're dishonest? I don't get it.

Its an ulterior motive.


What, selling books? That's kinda the point of writing and publishing, so what's ulterior about it?
 
2012-10-11 11:22:16 PM

Silverstaff: Gestankfaust: More people that never read the bible...


Look, if you want to know, then try to know. But you people dont. You'd rather just make fun and/or show your ignorance...

Not sure if serious.

Yes, I have read the bible. Nothing convinced me more to give up my Christianity than actually reading that book that preachers shouted at me while gesturing with.

The Old Testament is hideously outdated in regards to modern life (including God being outright evil in the Book of Job.) It sickens met to think about Job's family massacred just to make life tough on Job just as a test of faith to win an argument with Satan.

If God loved all mankind, like people try to claim, why did he only reveal himself to one little tribe in the Middle East? The countless souls on so many continents that would die and go to hell for no fault of their own. Yeah, I know some denominations try to come up with some argument about limbo, saying they don't really go to hell. . .but the bible doesn't support that.

Then throw in the New Testament, where Jesus generally tells a pretty good message. . .which Paul et al. immediately come in behind him and basically fold, spindle and mutilate in their own images. The four Gospels are the only really redeeming part of that book. Everything before or after is rubbish.

I used to be a Christian. Used to be. Had the whole Evangelical "salvation" experience, professed my faith, accepted Jesus. Was a good little Southern Baptist for a few years. Then I started reading the bible more closely, I started studying theology, I started studying history, and my Christian faith basically disintegrated the more I learned, it was like seeing through a scam.


calling BS. You might have heard that there are tons of inconsistencies, that it contradicts itself nonstop, that you can't possibly follow it, but those things aren't true.
 
2012-10-11 11:22:22 PM
I'm happier to see this kid get paid than to see Joel Osteen and his blow up doll get another book deal on their concocted prosperity and New Thought movement heresy. I might get this on Kindle.
 
2012-10-11 11:22:36 PM

SirHolo: Article Summary: "Buy my book!"


Bingo, scam all the way.
 
2012-10-11 11:22:40 PM

GRCooper: Pfffft, BFD. John Ritter did it for years.


Nice.
 
2012-10-11 11:22:59 PM

steamingpile: anuran: This is what a Christian is supposed to be.
This is what more young Christians are, he just wanted a book deal and an excuse to suck dick for a year.


SirHolo: Article Summary: "Buy my book!"


So go suck some dicks and write your own book, then. "Free country."
 
2012-10-11 11:23:40 PM

kg2095: Mija: Persecution? Oh please, God himself says homosexuality is an abomination and says that no homosexual can go to heaven. Any person who is truly saved loves God does not support that which God calls sin. Any time a homosexual is told the truth of their choices they claim persecution. Poor victims.

The Bible is clear on this matter.

If the bible is written by God then why is it full of contradictions and inconsistencies? Not to mention hatred. Does God have Alzheimers Disease or something?

By the way, when was the last time you got your hair cut or ate shellfish?


Because it's not.
 
2012-10-11 11:24:07 PM

Dansker: steamingpile: Dansker: Marcintosh: He chose today, National Coming Out Day and LGBT National History Month, to launch book sales . . .


sort of says it all as far as I'm concerned. So yes, I do doubt his sincerity at all levels.

Having a sound publishing strategy means you're dishonest? I don't get it.

Its an ulterior motive.

What, selling books? That's kinda the point of writing and publishing, so what's ulterior about it?


Ulterior in that he's really gay and is using this to make a few thousand.
 
2012-10-11 11:26:40 PM

cryinoutloud: steamingpile: anuran: This is what a Christian is supposed to be.
This is what more young Christians are, he just wanted a book deal and an excuse to suck dick for a year.

SirHolo: Article Summary: "Buy my book!"

So go suck some dicks and write your own book, then. "Free country."


Oh suck dick, but be honest, not the whole "I'm straight but pretended to have a black BF for a year" because I'm sure he was celibate for a year.

Quit lying, he's gay and wants to make money.
 
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