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2012-10-12 02:44:51 AM  
Reddit is alright. As long as you don't participate in the comments, read the comments, click on anything that mentions karma or anything from the atheism, politics, gaming, AMA, IAmA, or AskReddit subreddits.

Just click the funny pictures and move on.
 
2012-10-12 03:02:19 AM  

WhyteRaven74: RoyBatty: and near as I can tell only FARK and FARKers have a sense of humor.

That's because Fark has no real way to stroke an ego. Reddit has the voting on comments thing where people get wrapped up in upvoting and downvoting instead of just posting and and being interested in what's actually being said.


The voting thing on Reddit turns into a way to force everyone to follow the hivemind. People complain about the Fark politics tab, but on Reddit voicing anything outside the hivemind, no matter how thoughtful, is a sure fire way to get downvoted to oblivion and quite possibly to have people follow you and downvote your other posts around the site as well.

Niche subreddits can be useful--it's a good place to talk about random stuff like fountain pens, but any of the larger subs just are a mess even before you go into all of the drama with r/SRS and the way they've taken over formerly useful subs.
 
2012-10-12 03:13:44 AM  

styckx: jaylectricity: So reddit is the new 4chan?

/I'll be over at Sh*t Talking 101 on the RB

4Chan isn't at all that bad.. Not even /b/.. B is hilarious, educational at times and thought provoking others and no one takes themselves that seriously. Many people seem to forget that 4Chan consists of more than just /b/..


Yeah. the /TG/ board has actually gotten a few games and homebrews done and Katawa Shoujo was made but a bunch of 4chan users.
/Also TG made this hilarious thread. WARNING NSFW as it's still 4chan. And the fact your boss will want to know how you're laughing so hard, http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/921167/
 
2012-10-12 03:35:14 AM  
I'd ban every gawker site across reddit and fark if I could..
Mostly because of their efforts to "out" the members of seal team 6 publicly.
 
2012-10-12 03:46:01 AM  

coco ebert: There's a sub-group of photos of dead kids? 0_0

W.T.F.?

/take it to the "photos of dead kids" tab


Knowing reddit it's probably just as bad as anything 4chan would put up, but I like to live in my isolated world where that particular subreddit is about the old historical photos of dead children. Those are actually fairly interesting, though still slightly morbid.
 
2012-10-12 03:56:43 AM  

irving47: I'd ban every gawker site across reddit and fark if I could..
Mostly because of their efforts to "out" the members of seal team 6 publicly.


Yeah, it's funny how gawker likes to get on their high horse about reddit when they have such questionable ethics. Not to mention that a site that started out with the "gawker stalker" really has no right to act so righteous about creepshots--they've got plenty of creepy behavior of their own in their past. Oh yeah, and there was also their obsession with trying to out Anderson Cooper for years.
 
2012-10-12 04:11:56 AM  
The Gawker sites are a cancer of the internet.

I don't know what sort of deal it has with Fark, but not a day goes by where Gawker gets a few links for describing another link instead of Fark linking it directly.

Sometimes you need to go through 2-5 links to see the original content.
Fark is a news aggregate, why the fark does it link to what is basically another one?


I'd almost put Gawker at Ebaum levels, but they do usually provide a link so they're not as bad.
 
2012-10-12 05:24:47 AM  
So some (probably) fat unemployed b/tard neckbeard spends all of his time moderating 400 forums on redit and posting gore and it's news?
This person is does not play an important role in the world. Please don't make him out to be some sort of rock star.
 
2012-10-12 05:28:27 AM  
Doxxing is a stupid term. Can't it just be "identifying"? Even "outing" would do.

I don't know what I hate more, Reddit or Gawker. I do think that no matter how questionable the depraved antics of some people, if they're not illegal, or harming anyone, then no one has a right to crusade to shut them down, because that's even worse.
 
2012-10-12 06:44:09 AM  
Slap fight on some obscure forum != internet war.
 
2012-10-12 07:17:14 AM  
s11.postimage.org
 
2012-10-12 08:00:41 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: The Gawker sites are a cancer of the internet.

I don't know what sort of deal it has with Fark, but not a day goes by where Gawker gets a few links for describing another link instead of Fark linking it directly.

Sometimes you need to go through 2-5 links to see the original content.
Fark is a news aggregate, why the fark does it link to what is basically another one?


I'd almost put Gawker at Ebaum levels, but they do usually provide a link so they're not as bad.


They are run by Rupert Murdock. What did you expect? It's full of lies and slander.
 
2012-10-12 08:57:55 AM  
Jesus christ Reddit didn't ban that bastard after the last Pedocaust caused by Something Awful? Reddit must sure love their jailbait,childporn and upskirt photos of those that are underaged. Jesus even 4chan does a better job a getting rid of that shiat than they do.
 
2012-10-12 09:01:50 AM  

A Terrible Human: Jesus christ Reddit didn't ban that bastard after the last Pedocaust caused by Something Awful? Reddit must sure love their jailbait,childporn and upskirt photos of those that are underaged. Jesus even 4chan does a better job a getting rid of that shiat than they do.


Is that why you go there?
 
2012-10-12 09:02:23 AM  

WhyteRaven74: That's because Fark has no real way to stroke an ego.


clicks funny button, should i click smart too (for teh lulz)?

styckx: 4Chan isn't at all that bad


wait a minute, i thought this was 4Chan?!

/farkchan /b/tards
 
2012-10-12 09:09:38 AM  

fluffy2097: Is that why you go there?


No I don't go to reddit cause that shiat is unreadable,not to mention finding quite a few of their subreddits abhorrent. I stopped going to 4chan after I saw childporn there. It's farking disturbing and it tends to give me flash backs to when I was being abused as a child.

/Yes,I knew you were being snarky but gaaaah fark those sites.
 
2012-10-12 09:28:52 AM  
I find the fact that so many people are dumping on Reddit hilarious. I bailed on Fark for a while in favor of reddit because there was more content and you could have discussions without the Politics Tab trolls infesting every corner of the site.

That being said, the Sports Tab game discussion threads are still better on Fark. So, shock and amazement, I use both sites.
 
2012-10-12 09:29:57 AM  

WhyteRaven74: RoyBatty: and near as I can tell only FARK and FARKers have a sense of humor.

That's because Fark has no real way to stroke an ego. Reddit has the voting on comments thing where people get wrapped up in upvoting and downvoting instead of just posting and and being interested in what's actually being said.


Smart|Funny?
 
2012-10-12 09:36:00 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I find the fact that so many people are dumping on Reddit hilarious. I bailed on Fark for a while in favor of reddit because there was more content and you could have discussions without the Politics Tab trolls infesting every corner of the site.

That being said, the Sports Tab game discussion threads are still better on Fark. So, shock and amazement, I use both sites.


Shhhh! Fark is no place for rational discussion. It's for alcoholism, drunk driving and trolling.
 
2012-10-12 09:57:59 AM  
Screw gawker. Screw their imperialist nonsense, and triple screw their ugly, poorly designed layout. Screw them for ruining lifehacker. Screw them for making internet journalism look about as credible as it was 20 years ago.

I won't click on their links any more than new york times' paywall horsecrap. I have the whole lot of them adblocked at the domain level.
 
2012-10-12 10:00:56 AM  

Moonlightfox: Screw gawker. Screw their imperialist nonsense, and triple screw their ugly, poorly designed layout. Screw them for ruining lifehacker. Screw them for making internet journalism look about as credible as it was 20 years ago.

I won't click on their links any more than new york times' paywall horsecrap. I have the whole lot of them adblocked at the domain level.


tarheelmania.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-12 10:04:40 AM  
A pox on both their houses. Both entities are worthless, toss into a woodchipper for the greater good, type people.
 
2012-10-12 10:17:21 AM  

Honest Bender: 1. Who the fark cares what Redtards do?
2. Who the fark cares who that guy is?
3. GOOD! We should ban gawker links, too. Crappy template sites that just repost youtube videos with, like, 3 sentences summarizing the video... negative value added.


Redit vs. Gawker - can't we root for both sides to lose?
 
2012-10-12 10:18:18 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I find the fact that so many people are dumping on Reddit hilarious. I bailed on Fark for a while in favor of reddit because there was more content and you could have discussions without the Politics Tab trolls infesting every corner of the site.

That being said, the Sports Tab game discussion threads are still better on Fark. So, shock and amazement, I use both sites.


Yeah, it's been that way since the days of Usenet - a group/site becomes boring or unusable due to trolls and ignorant motherfarkers so you go hang out somewhere else for a while. Kind of like bars, for that matter. Occasionally you have to drink somewhere else.

Gawker has become only marginally entertaining since writers like Choire Sicha left for The Awl, and Lifehacker has been replaced with Wirecutter on my geek reading list.

/never "got" Reddit
 
2012-10-12 10:30:12 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: /never "got" Reddit


It's great for the smaller subreddits. Things devoted to specific video games etc.

Anything with large numbers of subscribers is pretty much worthless, but if you need obscure info about a video game you're playing or something, there is always a subreddit full of likeminded people who can help.

then there are subreddits like /r/atheism, which is a farking cult. They worship books they've never read, relentlessly try and convert everyone they see, and promote "peace" while regularly saying that religion should be wiped off the face of the planet.
 
2012-10-12 10:49:48 AM  

fluffy2097: OldManDownDRoad: /never "got" Reddit

It's great for the smaller subreddits. Things devoted to specific video games etc.

Anything with large numbers of subscribers is pretty much worthless, but if you need obscure info about a video game you're playing or something, there is always a subreddit full of likeminded people who can help.


When it comes to looking for info, I can see the value in a subreddit. But I've gotten to the point where I look for sites or forums that are registration-only and even moderated for the reason you mention - large groups of people mean large groups of assholes, it's just human nature. Recently a forum I belong to that discusses the history of surfboard design had to go to moderation because people will NOT give politics a rest lately. Just farking stop it. Geebus. The owner says he will drop moderation after the election. While normally I would find that to be a huge PITA, right now I'm just tired of political crap.

/FARK is the exception, where the assholes are often the entertainment
 
2012-10-12 11:04:49 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Recently a forum I belong to that discusses the history of surfboard design had to go to moderation because people will NOT give politics a rest lately.

/FARK is the exception, where the assholes are often the entertainment


Romney will enact federal legislation to make all surfboards square with rounded corners, in order to get Apple IP licensing deals.

Obama will make all surf boards mandated to be made of carbon fiber to reduce the dependance on Styrofoam.

/Can't think of much that is further removed from politics then surfboard design.
 
2012-10-12 11:14:27 AM  

fluffy2097: OldManDownDRoad: Recently a forum I belong to that discusses the history of surfboard design had to go to moderation because people will NOT give politics a rest lately.

/FARK is the exception, where the assholes are often the entertainment

Romney will enact federal legislation to make all surfboards square with rounded corners, in order to get Apple IP licensing deals.

Obama will make all surf boards mandated to be made of carbon fiber to reduce the dependance on Styrofoam.

/Can't think of much that is further removed from politics then surfboard design.


Jeeze, you don't know how close you are to the truth. Recently it ran like this:

"Anyone know where I can get a new set of brushes for my Skil planer?"

"No more brushes for Skil because the Republican free trade policy shipped all those jobs to Mexico."

or

"Anyone got a line on marine resin that doesn't come in 5-gal buckets?"

"Obama's environmental czar has banned all marine resin for non-commercial users."

And on and on. Geebus. It was like having your racist Uncle Pete over on Sunday back in the day, when he blamed all the ills of the world on "the nigras" and your Mom had to tell him to STFU.
 
2012-10-12 11:30:53 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: fluffy2097: OldManDownDRoad: Recently a forum I belong to that discusses the history of surfboard design had to go to moderation because people will NOT give politics a rest lately.

/FARK is the exception, where the assholes are often the entertainment

Romney will enact federal legislation to make all surfboards square with rounded corners, in order to get Apple IP licensing deals.

Obama will make all surf boards mandated to be made of carbon fiber to reduce the dependance on Styrofoam.

/Can't think of much that is further removed from politics then surfboard design.

Jeeze, you don't know how close you are to the truth. Recently it ran like this:

"Anyone know where I can get a new set of brushes for my Skil planer?"

"No more brushes for Skil because the Republican free trade policy shipped all those jobs to Mexico."

or

"Anyone got a line on marine resin that doesn't come in 5-gal buckets?"

"Obama's environmental czar has banned all marine resin for non-commercial users."

And on and on. Geebus. It was like having your racist Uncle Pete over on Sunday back in the day, when he blamed all the ills of the world on "the nigras" and your Mom had to tell him to STFU.


The moment I saw the comments on Yahoo News hit their absolute low (and that's saying something, if you remember the early 2000s), was when South Carolina hired Steve Spurrier. The comments on that article deteriorated into a referendum on the Iraq War and Christianity in about 12 posts.
 
2012-10-12 01:09:34 PM  

Artcurus: I still miss The One Who Must Not Be Named. He definitely made more interesting around for a while.

Raises a glass to "G"


He made me long for Peril Sensitive Glasses.
 
2012-10-12 01:12:01 PM  

Faddy: Plus subreddits on kiddy porn and beating up women? We can't even get a food tab on Fark!


It would be Bacon, all the time.

/bacon
 
2012-10-12 01:13:14 PM  

fluffy2097: OldManDownDRoad: /never "got" Reddit

It's great for the smaller subreddits. Things devoted to specific video games etc.

Anything with large numbers of subscribers is pretty much worthless, but if you need obscure info about a video game you're playing or something, there is always a subreddit full of likeminded people who can help.

then there are subreddits like /r/atheism, which is a farking cult. They worship books they've never read, relentlessly try and convert everyone they see, and promote "peace" while regularly saying that religion should be wiped off the face of the planet.


Reddit becomes a lot more bearable once you unsub from any subreddit with more than a million people in it. Like you said, I mostly go there for the specific game boards and ignore everything else. /r/atheism and /r/worldnews are worth visiting if you ever want to lose faith in humanity.
 
2012-10-12 01:39:19 PM  

WonderPenguin: Reddit becomes a lot more bearable once you unsub from any subreddit with more than a million people in it. Like you said, I mostly go there for the specific game boards and ignore everything else. /r/atheism and /r/worldnews are worth visiting if you ever want to lose faith in humanity.


Anything related to theism or spirituality is ruined by /r/atheism

"You just have to have faith"
"I'll have faith when you show me a mathematical proof for God."
"Um. Do you know what Faith means?"
"It means you are a worthless person and you should become an atheist like me"
"ಠ_ಠ"
 
2012-10-12 01:57:47 PM  

fluffy2097: WonderPenguin: Reddit becomes a lot more bearable once you unsub from any subreddit with more than a million people in it. Like you said, I mostly go there for the specific game boards and ignore everything else. /r/atheism and /r/worldnews are worth visiting if you ever want to lose faith in humanity.

Anything related to theism or spirituality is ruined by /r/atheism

"You just have to have faith"
"I'll have faith when you show me a mathematical proof for God."
"Um. Do you know what Faith means?"
"It means you are a worthless person and you should become an atheist like me"
"ಠ_ಠ"


Yeah, further proof that the atheists can be as big of a pain as the fundies.

But don't tell them that unless you want to see the comments section go completely to hell.

UNC_Samurai:
The moment I saw the comments on Yahoo News hit their absolute low (and that's saying something, if you remember the early 2000s), was when South Carolina hired Steve Spurrier. The comments on that article deteriorated into a referendum on the Iraq War and Christianity in about 12 posts.



Oh, yeah, the News & Observer comments section can go ballistic at times. In fact, I can pretty much set my stopwatch for when the mods will shut down the comments on certain stories. If it involves politics or religion, I am surprised they allow them at all.

/I have suffered the ban hammer for mocking their editorial standards
 
2012-10-12 02:35:31 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: /I have suffered the ban hammer for mocking their editorial standards


Come to think of it. The majority of time I have been banned online has been solely for mocking.
 
2012-10-12 05:10:59 PM  

fluffy2097: WonderPenguin: Reddit becomes a lot more bearable once you unsub from any subreddit with more than a million people in it. Like you said, I mostly go there for the specific game boards and ignore everything else. /r/atheism and /r/worldnews are worth visiting if you ever want to lose faith in humanity.

Anything related to theism or spirituality is ruined by /r/atheism

"You just have to have faith"
"I'll have faith when you show me a mathematical proof for God."
"Um. Do you know what Faith means?"
"It means you are a worthless person and you should become an atheist like me"
"ಠ_ಠ"


And then there were the flamewars that developed between /r/atheism and /r/LGBT because the denizens of /r/atheism insisted on using the language of coming out while insisting they had it worse than actual LGBT people and were oh, so persecuted. Never mind that the reason people hate the r/atheism crowd has nothing to do with them being atheists and everything to do with them being insufferable assholes.
 
2012-10-12 05:31:54 PM  
When Gawker did their site redesign, it wouldn't display in my browser due to NoScript. While I was a fan of lifehacker, I shrugged and moved on.

Recently, I inadvertently clicked a Gawker link and, lo and behold, it worked and the page was displayed. NoScript still doesn't allow scripts from Gawker to run, so the site must have made a change. I'm curious if the change is from lost traffic due to NoScript... (Or Adblock. Or Ghostery.)
 
2012-10-12 09:22:55 PM  
I waded into reddit because I thought the atheism group would be interesting. Instead it's bad memes on imgr, witless exchanges with non-atheists on facebook ("Look at this I pwned them!"), Christians claiming they're oppressed by the fact that /r/atheism is on the front page, and the usual neckbeards.

The thing that gets me is that the misogyny is really deep there. It's like a dark river. Here on fark, when people indulge in it, I feel like that it's the kind of talk where you get guys together who punch each other in the arm and call each other badasses, but who go home and coo over their dogs and cats and treat their wives/moms/sisters like queens.
 
2012-10-13 02:33:58 AM  

GAT_00: As moderator of about 400 subreddits, violentacrez had become known for controlling shock forums like r/picsofdeadkids, r/nazi, and at one time, r/jailbait.

Also recently subreddits dedicated to public upskirt photos, with some users intentionally targeting the underage, and a subreddit dedicated towards beating women. Reddit has immediately leapt to the defense of this person as a valuable member of the community.

Seriously, don't go to Reddit. It's full of terrible people.


Or you could hang out in r/woodworking and r/sailing instead.
 
2012-10-13 05:08:43 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I find the fact that so many people are dumping on Reddit hilarious. I bailed on Fark for a while in favor of reddit because there was more content and you could have discussions without the Politics Tab trolls infesting every corner of the site.

That being said, the Sports Tab game discussion threads are still better on Fark. So, shock and amazement, I use both sites.


I'd probably be a big fan of reddit if it's format wasn't so annoying.
Ugh... I just can't stand it.
 
2012-10-13 05:09:39 AM  

God-is-a-Taco:
I'd probably be a big fan of reddit if it's format wasn't so annoying.
Ugh... I just can't stand it.


its

this thread is probably dead and I will not have my quick typing put this misuse on my internet record
 
2012-10-13 02:01:04 PM  

Honest Bender: 1. Who the fark cares what Redtards do?
2. Who the fark cares who that guy is?
3. GOOD! We should ban gawker links, too. Crappy template sites that just repost youtube videos with, like, 3 sentences summarizing the video... negative value added.


io9 is the best sci-fi news blog on the nets.
 
2012-10-14 01:35:43 AM  
You don't see Mitt Romney doing AMAs on that child molester haven. Just sayin'.
 
2012-10-15 12:46:41 AM  
I've been using fark for the better part of a decade, although I rarely post and mostly lurk the politics tab 0_o. I went to Reddit twice a few months back and was like Oooo...a second rate fark! I didn't realize they were trying to be 4chan as well. haha. Nubs.
 
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