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2012-10-11 08:58:48 PM  
What, your precious internet anonymity didn't really work out for you. farkin whiny Reddit biatches.
 
2012-10-11 11:04:17 PM  
As moderator of about 400 subreddits, violentacrez had become known for controlling shock forums like r/picsofdeadkids, r/nazi, and at one time, r/jailbait.

Also recently subreddits dedicated to public upskirt photos, with some users intentionally targeting the underage, and a subreddit dedicated towards beating women. Reddit has immediately leapt to the defense of this person as a valuable member of the community.

Seriously, don't go to Reddit. It's full of terrible people.
 
2012-10-11 11:26:26 PM  
So reddit is the new 4chan?

/I'll be over at Sh*t Talking 101 on the RB
 
2012-10-11 11:33:27 PM  
There's a sub-group of photos of dead kids? 0_0

W.T.F.?

/take it to the "photos of dead kids" tab
 
2012-10-11 11:41:28 PM  
I'm jailbait. AMA

Redditor #1-∞: Can we meet up?
 
2012-10-11 11:48:38 PM  

coco ebert: There's a sub-group of photos of dead kids? 0_0

W.T.F.?

/take it to the "photos of dead kids" tab


It's a joke. He also asked to be mod of /r/beatingwomen while being mod of /r/srs, a feminism subreddit, because he thought it would be amusing.

Apparently it's not.

Gawker is a worthless pile of shiat though, so I can't say I will be visiting their sites. Not that i did much to begin with.
 
2012-10-11 11:51:21 PM  
1. Who the fark cares what Redtards do?
2. Who the fark cares who that guy is?
3. GOOD! We should ban gawker links, too. Crappy template sites that just repost youtube videos with, like, 3 sentences summarizing the video... negative value added.
 
2012-10-12 12:01:20 AM  
Wow. Who woulda thought that being a pretend asshole could have negative consequences.

(I'm a genuine asshole.)
 
2012-10-12 12:03:13 AM  

fluffy2097: coco ebert: There's a sub-group of photos of dead kids? 0_0

W.T.F.?

/take it to the "photos of dead kids" tab

It's a joke. He also asked to be mod of /r/beatingwomen while being mod of /r/srs, a feminism subreddit, because he thought it would be amusing.

Apparently it's not.

Gawker is a worthless pile of shiat though, so I can't say I will be visiting their sites. Not that i did much to begin with.


Was running the jailbait subreddit also funny?
 
2012-10-12 12:04:04 AM  
Today more than seven different subreddits banned links to stories from Gawker in solidarity with violentacrez, despite the fact that most regular redditors refuse to click on links from the media network to begin with.

Could we try that?

/i dislike reddit immensely, but could we stand in solidarity and ban gawker links too?
//and laughing squid
 
2012-10-12 12:05:45 AM  

GAT_00: Reddit has immediately leapt to the defense of this person as a valuable member of the community.


This is not true.

What is more accurate is that at Reddit, a few sub-reddits, and some big ones are in that, are taking a stance against doxxing.

If Gawker's reporter wants to report on violentacrez there is no journalistic need to dox him. If he is breaking the law, report that to the police and dox him there. Gawker's reporter, Adrian Chen is not doing this out of some sense of journalism. He has a long history of acts specifically taken against reddit. Doxxing this one individual is a part of that.

This was followed up by the predditors site also doxxing people that had engaged in posting to creepshots, which ugly as it is, does seem to be legal.

There were also occurrences of what I think was actually illegal, people threatened with doxxing unless they engaged in certain acts (turning over control of their reddits, terminating their accounts.)

We've all been involved with internet feuds. For the most part, these feuds should stay on the internet and not carry over to real life.

So quite a few reddit groups are taking a stance against Gawker's doxxing, and yes, violentacrez is a pustule and he is at the heart of it.

"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

― H.L. Mencken


I would think one of FARK's uber liberal elites would be supportive of freedom, because first it's assholes like violentacrez, then maybe it's atheists or muslims, and at some point it's just because you were an asshole that one day in that forum.
 
2012-10-12 12:05:54 AM  

fluffy2097: coco ebert: There's a sub-group of photos of dead kids? 0_0

W.T.F.?

/take it to the "photos of dead kids" tab

It's a joke. He also asked to be mod of /r/beatingwomen while being mod of /r/srs, a feminism subreddit, because he thought it would be amusing.

Apparently it's not.

Gawker is a worthless pile of shiat though, so I can't say I will be visiting their sites. Not that i did much to begin with.


Wait, so there is or isn't actually a sub-group of photos of dead kids?

You are right though that Gawker sucks. I do like some of Adrien Chen's posts, though.
 
2012-10-12 12:06:37 AM  

coco ebert: Wait, so there is or isn't actually a sub-group of photos of dead kids?


There is.
 
2012-10-12 12:07:13 AM  

Honest Bender: 3. GOOD! We should ban gawker links, too. Crappy template sites that just repost youtube videos with, like, 3 sentences summarizing the video... negative value added.


Hey, my biggest complaint is their commenting policy.

Long live FARK.
 
2012-10-12 12:08:55 AM  

Honest Bender: 1. Who the fark cares what Redtards do?
2. Who the fark cares who that guy is?/big>i>

What? I can't allow things on the internet that I disapprove of! My god man, are you insane?

 
2012-10-12 12:10:09 AM  
WTF is doxxing?
 
2012-10-12 12:13:07 AM  

coco ebert: Wait, so there is or isn't actually a sub-group of photos of dead kids?


I'm pretty sure there are no photos of dead kids in it. I'm not about to check tbh. That would be like. effort.
 
2012-10-12 12:13:52 AM  

coco ebert: WTF is doxxing?


Releasing personal identifying information. Name address, place of work. tying them to usernames online.
 
2012-10-12 12:14:30 AM  

coco ebert: WTF is doxxing?


Basically tying someone's internet alias to their real identity and doing a full info dump on them.
 
2012-10-12 12:15:50 AM  
but what about /spacedicks?
 
2012-10-12 12:18:49 AM  

fluffy2097: coco ebert: Wait, so there is or isn't actually a sub-group of photos of dead kids?

I'm pretty sure there are no photos of dead kids in it. I'm not about to check tbh. That would be like. effort.


I think the dead kid photo subreddit was purged along with the jailbait stuff in the great "Hey, ok, were pretty bad, but were not /b fer christsakes" purge a while back.
 
2012-10-12 12:20:25 AM  

coco ebert: WTF is doxxing?


Comes from "documents". Apparently big in various anonymous / 4chan groups and any internet group with a grudge against another.
 
2012-10-12 12:22:22 AM  
I still miss The One Who Must Not Be Named. He definitely made more interesting around for a while.

Raises a glass to "G"
 
2012-10-12 12:27:38 AM  
Nested comments, ugh.
 
2012-10-12 12:29:17 AM  

jaylectricity: So reddit is the new 4chan?


That's pretty much my impression. Sometimes 4chan can be surprisingly interesting/useful though... but I've never had that experience with Reddit.

Frankly... Reddit seems like it's full of Narcissists who don't care about people so much as they care about their super-specific subculture.
 
2012-10-12 12:36:12 AM  

Fubini: Frankly... Reddit seems like it's full of Narcissists who don't care about people so much as they care about their super-specific subculture.


Reddit seems to be the new web browser friendly usenet, with bonus gamification and a bit of social networking.

It's interesting to compare reddit and fark, with fark being so much older and yet handling images better (imho) than reddit until you load in browser extensions. And yet, reddit does some things better than fark simply because it's newer: formatting of posts for example.

Fark feels homier (that's an "m" not an "r n"), because Drew pops up now and again and there is a strong and fun cult of Drew/Beer. And also because there are only so many threads, so like rides at Disneyland you can do them in an afternoon.

Reddit feels like some social experiment because the Admins there are often very very silent when they should speak up, because to them it's all bacterial growth in a "free speech" petri dish sim.
 
2012-10-12 12:42:57 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: What, your precious internet anonymity didn't really work out for you. farkin whiny Reddit biatches.


This, farking cry to Al Gore biatches, you cant perv out anonymously any more, oh noes...........
 
2012-10-12 12:44:34 AM  

Seth'n'Spectrum: Nested comments, ugh.


OH and this, when did we travel back to 1993?
 
2012-10-12 12:45:38 AM  

Cyno01: could we stand in solidarity and ban gawker links too?


I'd be for this. Gawker and its related sites are meh at best. I'd rather see stories linked from elsewhere.
 
2012-10-12 12:47:43 AM  

RoyBatty: Fubini: Frankly... Reddit seems like it's full of Narcissists who don't care about people so much as they care about their super-specific subculture.

Reddit seems to be the new web browser friendly usenet, with bonus gamification and a bit of social networking.

It's interesting to compare reddit and fark, with fark being so much older and yet handling images better (imho) than reddit until you load in browser extensions. And yet, reddit does some things better than fark simply because it's newer: formatting of posts for example.

Fark feels homier (that's an "m" not an "r n"), because Drew pops up now and again and there is a strong and fun cult of Drew/Beer. And also because there are only so many threads, so like rides at Disneyland you can do them in an afternoon.

Reddit feels like some social experiment because the Admins there are often very very silent when they should speak up, because to them it's all bacterial growth in a "free speech" petri dish sim.


Fark used to handle images better. Now it rejects half the links on the web and limits you to 56k modem speed friendly images.
 
2012-10-12 12:48:37 AM  
Some troll doesn't want to be outed as a troll. Doxxed? Look reddit is mostly lame, if you are going to troll, mod or generally participate in seedy subreddits use a different account or get behind 7 proxies.

Plus subreddits on kiddy porn and beating up women? We can't even get a food tab on Fark!
 
2012-10-12 12:52:13 AM  
i.imgur.com

and be done with it!
 
2012-10-12 12:53:49 AM  

bhcompy: Fark used to handle images better. Now it rejects half the links on the web and limits you to 56k modem speed friendly images.


What I was referring to was that FARK allows us to inline images, and reddit without a browser extension just makes them an annoying link to click on.

It also seems to be that 99.999% of images at reddit are basically just captioned memes or truly idiot animated gifs that collect a lot of oohs and ahs. For whatever reason, it just seems like most of the images at FARK seem a step above that.
 
2012-10-12 12:55:48 AM  
Okay, so I've spent time at FARK, at Reddit, at Hacker News, and near as I can tell only FARK and FARKers have a sense of humor.
 
2012-10-12 01:00:55 AM  
fark the Gawker site family. It's one of my top pet peeves on the internet at the moment. Didn't Drew write a book taking aim at exactly Gawker's brand of shiatty journalism?
 
2012-10-12 01:02:46 AM  

RoyBatty: and near as I can tell only FARK and FARKers have a sense of humor.


That's because Fark has no real way to stroke an ego. Reddit has the voting on comments thing where people get wrapped up in upvoting and downvoting instead of just posting and and being interested in what's actually being said.
 
2012-10-12 01:12:22 AM  

WhyteRaven74: RoyBatty: and near as I can tell only FARK and FARKers have a sense of humor.

That's because Fark has no real way to stroke an ego. Reddit has the voting on comments thing where people get wrapped up in upvoting and downvoting instead of just posting and and being interested in what's actually being said.


I think that's true. Also, for me at least, because all of FARK is so much bigger than any sub reddit but FARK itself is so much smaller, it's much easier to recognize people at FARK and then be totally annoyed to find that someone you dislike for X is someone you agree with for Y.
 
2012-10-12 01:12:25 AM  

jaylectricity: So reddit is the new 4chan?

/I'll be over at Sh*t Talking 101 on the RB


4Chan isn't at all that bad.. Not even /b/.. B is hilarious, educational at times and thought provoking others and no one takes themselves that seriously. Many people seem to forget that 4Chan consists of more than just /b/..
 
2012-10-12 01:13:35 AM  

WhyteRaven74: RoyBatty: and near as I can tell only FARK and FARKers have a sense of humor.

That's because Fark has no real way to stroke an ego. Reddit has the voting on comments thing where people get wrapped up in upvoting and downvoting instead of just posting and and being interested in what's actually being said.


I gave you a Smart! vote (as if anyone cares or looks).
 
2012-10-12 01:13:45 AM  

spamdog: fark the Gawker site family. It's one of my top pet peeves on the internet at the moment. Didn't Drew write a book taking aim at exactly Gawker's brand of shiatty journalism?


You'll eat your words when the guy who ran the /r/jailbait forum turns out to be a Penn State alum working for the Second Mile. Gawker's gonna win a pulitzer - you watch.
 
2012-10-12 01:14:08 AM  
seems like no sooner than i found out about r/jailbait then poof it was gone. i liked it. it was non-nude. looked like dups of one hour photo drop off films. nothing dirty.
 
2012-10-12 01:14:40 AM  

styckx: jaylectricity: So reddit is the new 4chan?

/I'll be over at Sh*t Talking 101 on the RB

4Chan isn't at all that bad.. Not even /b/.. B is hilarious, educational at times and thought provoking others and no one takes themselves that seriously. Many people seem to forget that 4Chan consists of more than just /b/..


Yea, there's futa, ecchi, yuri, etc
 
2012-10-12 01:17:23 AM  
In the long run, there is no anonymity on the internet. If you troll (and sometimes even if you don't) eventually someone will find out who you really are. Reddit seems quite happy to out trolls it disagrees with on other parts of the internet - so this sounds like one of their own getting a a bit of taste of their own medicine.
 
2012-10-12 01:17:50 AM  

RoyBatty: Also, for me at least, because all of FARK is so much bigger than any sub reddit but FARK itself is so much smaller,


Yep there's that. Also Fark is consistent, there's one set of mods and that's it, you don't have who knows how many mods with who knows what standards.

Faddy: I gave you a Smart! vote (as if anyone cares or looks).


hehe :D yeah we have the smart and funny buttons, but no one really gets worked up over it. Over at Reddit if you're new you could say the most brilliant thing ever and have your comment downvoted into oblivion basically.
 
2012-10-12 01:19:08 AM  

narkor: eventually someone will find out who you really are.


On Fark we save people the trouble of having to dig around, we just go to Fark parties and meet each other.
 
2012-10-12 02:00:55 AM  
Dang man, you mean I'm actually going to have to side with Gawker on something? Makes me feel dirty, almost like a redditor.

Reddit is a terrible thing, and it has been from the beginning. Fark anybody who apologizes for that scum-sucking pedo-hive while willingly contributing to any part of it.

Honest Bender: We should ban gawker links, too. Crappy template sites that just repost youtube videos with, like, 3 sentences summarizing the video... negative value added.


You just described Buzzfeed so we'll have to ban those, too.
 
2012-10-12 02:15:44 AM  

bhcompy: styckx: jaylectricity: So reddit is the new 4chan?

/I'll be over at Sh*t Talking 101 on the RB

4Chan isn't at all that bad.. Not even /b/.. B is hilarious, educational at times and thought provoking others and no one takes themselves that seriously. Many people seem to forget that 4Chan consists of more than just /b/..

Yea, there's futa, ecchi, yuri, etc


Ecchi>all other boards
 
2012-10-12 02:18:21 AM  
I know Reddit's the big thing on the internet and Fark's kind of the smaller backwoods operation or whatever...

But any time I try to go to Reddit, the site hurts my eyes and I see a bunch of stuff that doesn't look interesting. Then I try to read a comment thread, and nobody seems to say anything particularly interesting (a couple okay comments, but no sort of conversation.)

Then something looks good, but just links straight to a youtube video that's underwhelming. Shrug. I'll take Fark's identifiable trolls for some reason.
 
2012-10-12 02:30:24 AM  
I'm thinking Gawker is only like 50% bad. Gawker's main site is terrible, Kotaku terrible and Gizmodo is the worst. On the good side we have Deadspin; Jalopnik, io9 and Lifehacker are reasonable and even Jezebel can be mildly entertaining in a chauvinistic way (those ladies need somewhere to menstruate online together)
 
2012-10-12 02:37:06 AM  
Reddit is nothing more than a third rate Fark and a fourth rate 4chan. I have a deep disdain for Reddit that borders on being unhealthy. I hate everything about it. It's full of Asperger preteens and teens, and the "college" kids that go there are probably in community college or dropouts. They have absolutely nothing worthwhile, and I'm especially offended by the very notion of the AMAs. The very premise is narcissistic and attention whorey. Neither of which are uncommon on the internet, but this is the worst of both worlds. Who the hell do these people think they are in which people want to take their time to ask them questions? What makes them so damn special in their eyes? It's painful, because celebrities I actually give a frak about like Louis CK and Kevin Smith have done AMAs. Gary Johnson has done a couple as well, but I can let that slide since he's attempting to be smart and broaden his demographic. Newsflash: The farktards that go to Reddit are not going to vote with intelligence. Ugh, farking Reddit. Ya know what? Fark should add a Reddit filter so that the word itself is banned.

Fark is leaps and bounds better than anything Reddit could ever hope or dream to become. As someone mentioned earlier Fark feels more at home. You have Drew pop in every now and then. There's actual quality control even if the mods fail sometimes. The people that post in the threads, even the most idiotic of trolls and assholes still have a better quality to them than anything Reddit could ever do.

AHHHHH, fark fark fark, I'm ranting.

/end rant
 
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