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2012-10-11 03:22:26 PM
Ahhhhh geeez, what is it with the recent trend for a consumable of Mexican manufacture to be of better quality than the American version. Ie: Mexican Coke, Mexican hotsauce, Mexican meth
 
2012-10-11 03:30:46 PM

syberpud: JackieRabbit: Meanwhile, back in the US, I have to show my ID, fill out a form, and get a lecture from a pharmacist when I want a 12-pack of Sudafed. And where do meth cooks get theirs? Why on the cheap from black market bulk shipments from China, of course.

I think the key here is bulk if you wanted to buy an entire container full of Sudafed I bet you could avoid the lecture, at least. Still need to fil out paperwork.


I think you get my point. The legislative response to the meth "problem" was one of the most absurd knee-jerk reactions I've ever seen and it has had absolutely no effect. I call this a "problem" because it never was as big of a problem as we have been lead to believe. Some areas do have a significant problem to deal with but most do not. Just a relative few users, who lose control. I tried crystal meth way back in the 2970s. I don't see what the attraction is. But then I never have like stimulants and believe that cocaine is the suckiest drug ever. Give me the mellow of goo pot any day.

Prohibition doesn't work. Eradication doesn't work. Prison for users and sellers doesn't work. Education can help. Intervention for those who need it helps. So we have three things that cost us billions of $$ each year and two relatively cheap things that can help. This should be a no-brainer for us.
 
2012-10-11 03:33:35 PM

JackieRabbit: I think you get my point. The legislative response to the meth "problem" was one of the most absurd knee-jerk reactions I've ever seen and it has had absolutely no effect. I call this a "problem" because it never was as big of a problem as we have been lead to believe. Some areas do have a significant problem to deal with but most do not. Just a relative few users, who lose control. I tried crystal meth way back in the 2970s. I don't see what the attraction is. But then I never have like stimulants and believe that cocaine is the suckiest drug ever. Give me the mellow of goo pot any day.Prohibition doesn't work. Eradication doesn't work. Prison for users and sellers doesn't work. Education can help. Intervention for those who need it helps. So we have three things that cost us billions of $$ each year and two relatively cheap things that can help. This should be a no-brainer for us.


now i see why this is an epidemic, meth displaces them from time, farking future junkies are spilling into our timeline and freaking up the future
 
2012-10-11 03:49:14 PM
Not too surprised. That is where all the hard working Mexicans are going. Now if Americans got off their lazy arses and got that third job and worked 100 hours a week you be fine. Until then, don't cry when businesses leave.
 
2012-10-11 04:12:09 PM

loonatic112358: JackieRabbit: I think you get my point. The legislative response to the meth "problem" was one of the most absurd knee-jerk reactions I've ever seen and it has had absolutely no effect. I call this a "problem" because it never was as big of a problem as we have been lead to believe. Some areas do have a significant problem to deal with but most do not. Just a relative few users, who lose control. I tried crystal meth way back in the 2970s. I don't see what the attraction is. But then I never have like stimulants and believe that cocaine is the suckiest drug ever. Give me the mellow of goo pot any day.Prohibition doesn't work. Eradication doesn't work. Prison for users and sellers doesn't work. Education can help. Intervention for those who need it helps. So we have three things that cost us billions of $$ each year and two relatively cheap things that can help. This should be a no-brainer for us.

now i see why this is an epidemic, meth displaces them from time, farking future junkies are spilling into our timeline and freaking up the future


Hey, I'm just very young! (and can't type for shiat anymore)
 
2012-10-11 04:26:37 PM
Legalize it. I'm not sayin' this from past experience or anything, but meth's okay, if used prudently. Imagine the positive effects legalization would have on the US obesity issue. US productivity would be just like Japan, post WWII - 2000. Dependency on caffeine and sodas would decrease and more people would walk to work.
 
2012-10-11 04:50:21 PM

JackieRabbit: syberpud: JackieRabbit:
Prohibition doesn't work. Eradication doesn't work. Prison for users and sellers doesn't work. Education can help. Intervention for those who need it helps. So we have three things that cost us billions of $$ each year and two relatively cheap things that can help. This should be a no-brainer for us.


This.
 
2012-10-11 05:45:28 PM
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American people needing to know that Most Favored Nation, People Republic of China, loves them long time, because they have such big dick we never make bad with big American dick.
 
2012-10-11 05:48:06 PM

gelovani: Legalize it. I'm not sayin' this from past experience or anything, but meth's okay, if used prudently.



STFU.

Machine gun fire is ok, if "used prudently". Maybe when we have some real drug education in this country, a nation of youth who know better than to do bath salts.
 
2012-10-11 05:56:06 PM

libranoelrose: love this show


"Ice" Road Truckers?
 
2012-10-11 05:57:06 PM

Crazy Lee: Vectron 'm for the legalization of drugs but I don't know how we can afford it if the government must pay for the upkeep of drug addicts (welfare/food stamps/healthcare/social security). The safety net only works if people are trying to live productive lives.

I'll nibble at that:

Meth? Farking hippies knew the stuff was poison "Speed Kills", Benzedrine/Dexedrine can be misused (if one enjoys being locked in to performing stereotypic behaviors, i.e., chewing one's nails until bloody, cleaning the same spot on the counter endlessly) but doesn't produce the same `high' during the excitant phase. Sell the standard amphetamines OTC. The hourly slaves will be happy and the toothless cohort will shrink.

In 1999 the best estimate of the total number of deaths from all illegal drugs, in U.S., ~11000. Deaths from OTC/prescription NSAID's? ~10,000. Where's the outrage over the Aspirin?

Far cheaper to produce all of these items in the U.S. and sell at just above cost and plow the profits back into treatment for those who think they need it. Those adult citizens who haven't got the gumption to read the `trainwreck' section from the Vaults of Erowid, before scarfing down this, or that? Well, they exercised their constitutionally protected right to do with his/her body what they wanted.

Primary change required would be to impose mandatory minimum sentences on those citizens who sell to minors/interfere with the life/liberty of any fellow citizen while under the influence of a clinically significant dose of any substance (Valium/Booze/etc) - no exceptions.

What are we getting for our tax dollars at present? We are financing a subsidy program for producers/dealers (along with all the `ancillary services'). Drug suppression never seems to do more than harvest the inefficient/unlucky/stupid ~10% of the traffic (same as in `72 when war was declared). Cops/DEA are just price support subsidy tools - `gee, they busted my source, I can still get it, but it's going to cost y ...


This. Erowid is a fantastic source. A friend of mine used to keep a whiteboard on her bedroom door with what, how much, and when for anything other than weed. Her logic was that if she needed medical attention, the info was there.

When drugs are decriminalized, as they are Portugal, usage goes down because addicts can seek treatment without fear of legal repercussions.

But there's too much money to be made to simply allow for something so sensible. The farcical "War on Drugs" is little more than a canard for a system that reaps massive profits off the illegality of drugs.
 
2012-10-11 07:43:12 PM
We have a greater need for our troops to be closer to home.
 
2012-10-11 08:18:42 PM
We give them jobs there so they don't take our jobs here?

/DNRTFA, DNRTFT
 
2012-10-11 09:14:00 PM

Vectron: We have a greater need for our troops to be closer to home.


How much do you want to pay for gas?
 
2012-10-11 09:33:55 PM

spacelord321: Vectron: We have a greater need for our troops to be closer to home.

How much do you want to pay for gas?


Oh please. Every other country in the world buys gas from mid east producers.

Related: I would like to see the price of gas go up enough for Americans to start cutting back on usage.
 
2012-10-11 11:43:24 PM

Mishno: fickenchucker: The legalize people forget marijuana is a far cry from meth and other drugs. Narrow your scope and you might win.

Who draws the line between "good drugs" and "bad drugs"? Is pot a good drug? How about acid? Ecstacy? Coke? Heroin? There's always going to be people who want to nudge the line farther and farther to the "bad" side saying "it's not SOOOO bad".




If I have to explain to you the difference between alcohol & pot from virtually every other recreational substance on earth, it might be a good thing we have the laws we do.

I suppose technically alcohol is bad news, but it's so ingrained we saw what happened when we tried to go backwards. While not a weed head myself due to fear of punishment, we have a friend who grew up in Holland who said it wasn't a big deal. When she was growing up the societal peer pressure kept public highness on par with public drunkenness--something only losers did. I could get on board with legalizing pot if we had the slightest ability to grow some positive peer pressure and keep being high to pot bars and homes where it should be.
 
2012-10-12 12:42:22 AM
www.nps.gov
Perhaps we should send there jobs south.
Cheaper and better results.
 
2012-10-12 01:01:17 PM
Was this on a commercial I remember?We don't makethe meth but we make it better!
 
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