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(NBC News)   If you're the "Chief Diversity Officer" at a major university, you may want to sleep on it before you decide to sign your name to an anti-gay petition, even if Jesus is the one telling you to do it   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 103
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2012-10-11 01:07:00 PM  
Dr. Angela McCaskill signed the petition at her church after her preacher spoke against gay marriage, the Planet DeafQueer blog reported on Monday, citing a Gallaudet faculty member who first spotted the administrator's name on the document.

I bet she didn't expect them to hear about it...

Gallaudet University President T. Alan Hurwitz said in a statement.

His sentiments are unsurprising, considering his uncle's war record:
cdn1.hark.com
 
2012-10-11 01:39:36 PM  
Why doesn't Jesus ever tell anyone to do something harmless, like shiat on the buffet at the Sizzler?
 
2012-10-11 01:46:55 PM  
Doesn't it restrict diversity to not allow an intolerant religious bigot to be your Chief Diversity Officer?
 
2012-10-11 01:56:36 PM  
I don't think she should lose her job or anything. Is her job exclusively dedicated to diversity at the school? I would just change her responsibilities.

Gallaudet is an interesting place. I had a three month consulting gig there. It was very enlightening. I was surprised to learn of all the intolerances that existed between different types of deaf people. People who were born deaf sometimes looked down on those who weren't. Kids with cochlear implants were referred to as "refrigerator magnets." Then there's the Bell Society which places a high importance on deaf people learning to speak.

As someone who doesn't know how to sign, it gave me an appreciation for what it must be like for a deaf person to operate in the hearing world. How do you tell someone how you want your hair cut? As I struggled to learn some ASL to get around easier I constantly embarrassed myself by resorting to reflexive pantomime when doing something as simple as trying to order a sandwich at the student center.
 
2012-10-11 02:07:10 PM  
I hear Gallaudet's a fabulous place.
 
2012-10-11 02:07:54 PM  
Apparently she defined her role in "Diversity", as one of preventing it.
 
2012-10-11 02:10:17 PM  
Maybe she can apply for the post of Chief Bigotry Officer.
 
2012-10-11 02:10:31 PM  

special20: Apparently she defined her role in "Diversity", as one of preventing it.


Nah. It's just another case of "diversity=black".
 
2012-10-11 02:10:58 PM  
If you're a "Chief Diversity Officer"...that's just sad. She shouldn't be fired, just pitied.
 
2012-10-11 02:11:56 PM  
I don't know what a "diversity officer" is, but her anti-gay position is still irrational and shows a lack of proper judgment.
 
2012-10-11 02:12:11 PM  
Black people don't like the gay. Nothing new.
 
2012-10-11 02:12:18 PM  
I'm in a pissy mood, so let me say fark you very much to the God Botherers and Jesus Freaks who seem hell-bent in turning the United States into some backwards backwater full of Wal-Marts and strip-mall churches. Fark you and the horse you rode in on. Fark you and your bullshiat theology. And furthermore, eat a bowl of farking dicks and farking die in a fire.
 
2012-10-11 02:12:28 PM  
Seems like the Christian thing to do would be to resign because of an ethical conflict with your job description...
 
2012-10-11 02:13:21 PM  
Couldn't have the diversity officer having an unallowed opinion now could we? That's thought crime! She should be fired and locked up!
 
2012-10-11 02:13:23 PM  

Vectron: Black people don't like the gay. Nothing new.


Unless they're on the d/l. Then a brother gets what a brother needs. And sometimes a brother needs the strong arms and loving touch of another brother.
 
2012-10-11 02:13:33 PM  
Why do such stupid pointless rolls exist? Diversity officer...what does that even do exactly? Sit around and look at meaningless statistics? "Not enough brown in the yellow department, needs less white overall" Is my first bet every single working day consists of. Suppression of human nature in order to comply with arbitrary meaningless and ultimately unobtainable lofty goals.
 
2012-10-11 02:13:38 PM  
Man, that Jesus is always messing with people while they're at work!!

marketingjesus.net

"Great, great. Now, take another inch off the top, and then you can shave those lines in the side. I'm telling you, it'll look totally sweet!"
 
2012-10-11 02:13:51 PM  
"chief diversity officer"? This kind of shiat is why I'm only mostly liberal.
 
2012-10-11 02:14:22 PM  
Worst native America name, ever.
 
2012-10-11 02:15:29 PM  

atomicmask: Why do such stupid pointless rolls exist? Diversity officer...what does that even do exactly?


Diversity is an essential value that is of vital importance to modern society. So we should all pretend to care about it.
 
2012-10-11 02:15:54 PM  

Mugato: "chief diversity officer"? This kind of shiat is why I'm only mostly liberal.


smart'd
 
2012-10-11 02:16:07 PM  
Dicey subject. Should your job prevent you from participating in the democratic process? Is there any evidence that her personal beliefs have impacted her job performance?
 
2012-10-11 02:16:31 PM  

EyeballKid: Man, that Jesus is always messing with people while they're at work!!



Never get tired of those Jesus cartoons!
 
2012-10-11 02:16:50 PM  
McCaskill was the first deaf African American female to earn a Ph.D. from Gallaudet

That's a pretty specific accolade.
 
2012-10-11 02:18:37 PM  

HailRobonia: Diversity is an essential value that is of vital importance to modern society.


It's also the reason we have to hire so many broads.
 
2012-10-11 02:19:18 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Worst native America name, ever.


Here's another:

www.tailopez.com

Chief Running Dog of Capitalism
 
2012-10-11 02:22:15 PM  
Why would a "chief diversity officer" be concerned with an aspect of homosexuality outside of academia? Her job should be ensuring that people of all colors, orientation, etc. get a fair shot at a good education - not whether or not the people of the state let gays marry.

Take that, free speech.
 
2012-10-11 02:22:24 PM  
I wonder what the qualifications are for such a job?

Ahhh - disadvantaged black chick? Gotcha.
 
2012-10-11 02:23:04 PM  

Diogenes: Gallaudet is an interesting place. I had a three month consulting gig there. It was very enlightening. I was surprised to learn of all the intolerances that existed between different types of deaf people. People who were born deaf sometimes looked down on those who weren't. Kids with cochlear implants were referred to as "refrigerator magnets." .


Wow. I think that's kind of farked up. I've only known a few deaf people. I always felt kind of sorry for them, but I guess they can be assholes too. Having a disability apparently doesn't mean you have any tolerance for other people.
 
2012-10-11 02:23:15 PM  

HailRobonia: atomicmask: Why do such stupid pointless rolls exist? Diversity officer...what does that even do exactly?

Diversity is an essential value that is of vital importance to modern society. So we should all pretend to care about it.


It is counter productive to modern society. It is the inclusion of people who do not hold the same values as us, a muddling and deconstructing of ethical ways until no way works, a government of two headed asses in a game of tug of war, when one side gains a little leverage and stops to rest the other side pulls it right back to the starting line. This is all diversity does for us. It creates a detriment of the lowest common denominator that slags down the most excellent to meet quotas.
 
2012-10-11 02:23:27 PM  
Things Jesus directly said about homosexuality: 0
Things Jesus directly said about divorce: Several things, including that getting divorced is a major sin tantamount to adultery

How many divorced Christians do you know who complain about homosexuality?

That is all.
 
2012-10-11 02:23:49 PM  
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2012-10-11 02:24:51 PM  
I SAID:

"IF YOU'RE THE 'CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER' AT A MAJOR UNIVERSITY, YOU MAY WANT TO SLEEP ON IT BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO SIGN YOUR NAME TO AN ANTI-GAY PETITION, EVEN IF JESUS IS THE ONE TELLING YOU TO DO IT!!!"
 
2012-10-11 02:24:59 PM  

Vectron: Black people don't like the gay. Nothing new.


Of course they don't. They see gays as trying to horn in on their action. Blacks spent centuries cultivating themselves as America's underclass. They've put a lot of time and effort ino getting to the front of the victimhood line and the sweet, sweet rewards that position brings like welfare checks, affirmative action hiring and Obamaphones.

And just when they get a brother elected to the highest office in the nation, a job he is clearly unqualified for, a job he only got through white guilt because crackers didn't want to vote for McCain and have the voting booth look at them like they're racist - then suddenly they see a bunch of butt-pirates lubing up and trying to squeeze them out. Why should they take that sitting down?
 
2012-10-11 02:26:55 PM  

Happy Hours: Diogenes: Gallaudet is an interesting place. I had a three month consulting gig there. It was very enlightening. I was surprised to learn of all the intolerances that existed between different types of deaf people. People who were born deaf sometimes looked down on those who weren't. Kids with cochlear implants were referred to as "refrigerator magnets." .

Wow. I think that's kind of farked up. I've only known a few deaf people. I always felt kind of sorry for them, but I guess they can be assholes too. Having a disability apparently doesn't mean you have any tolerance for other people.


I remember reading an article about a deaf couple who was having a child. The mother of the child was deaf due to a genetic issue, and they specifically sought out a sperm donor with the same genetic issue to ensure the child would be born deaf. I think that's wrong.

Being deaf is certainly a culture, as there is shared experience and shared language - but that doesn't mean it's not also a disability.
 
2012-10-11 02:27:34 PM  

little big man: Why would a "chief diversity officer" be concerned with an aspect of homosexuality outside of academia? Her job should be ensuring that people of all colors, orientation, etc. get a fair shot at a good education - not whether or not the people of the state let gays marry.

Take that, free speech.


I agree, I think. The same as a gay judge can fairly rule on prop 8, a person can put aside their personal conflicts of interest for their professional lives. Without proof of that I can hardly see wrongdoing, just bad judgment
 
2012-10-11 02:29:57 PM  

Road Warrior: Couldn't have the diversity officer having an unallowed opinion now could we? That's thought crime! She should be fired and locked up!


It's a free country. She can believe what she wants.
However, being hostile to a particular group's rights may very well compromise one's ability to be a "Chief Diversity Officer".

No one's telling her that it's illegal to have the opinion she has. Only that it's wrong to be a bigot while being in charge of diversity. Much like you wouldn't trust a fox to watch a henhouse. Conflict of interests.

I don't see this as being too much different than if it were a white person who was found to be a member of the KKK. Either way, it's contrary to the promotion of diversity, which is what her job entails.
 
2012-10-11 02:30:04 PM  

HailRobonia: atomicmask: Why do such stupid pointless rolls exist? Diversity officer...what does that even do exactly?

Diversity is an essential value that is of vital importance to modern society. So we should all pretend to care about it.


Diversity for diversity's sake is retarded. It really depends on the situation and the type of diversity.

In an effort to cure cancer, assembling an oncologist, a geneticist, and stem-cell researcher is a good kind of diversity. Assembling a homeopathic practitioner, a meter maid, and a preacher is a bad kind of diversity.
 
2012-10-11 02:31:10 PM  
Conservatives believe job positions that only have value in a liberal reality should be filled with people who hold values opposite to the job's mission, to intentionally incapacitate what the job is meant to do. For example, Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton.
 
2012-10-11 02:33:52 PM  
I'm sure McCaskill had her reasons for signing the petition but the higher-ups at Gallaudet just wouldn't hear them.
 
2012-10-11 02:35:03 PM  
"Diversity".... justified racism
 
2012-10-11 02:36:31 PM  

Diogenes: I don't think she should lose her job or anything. Is her job exclusively dedicated to diversity at the school? I would just change her responsibilities.

Gallaudet is an interesting place. I had a three month consulting gig there. It was very enlightening. I was surprised to learn of all the intolerances that existed between different types of deaf people. People who were born deaf sometimes looked down on those who weren't. Kids with cochlear implants were referred to as "refrigerator magnets." Then there's the Bell Society which places a high importance on deaf people learning to speak.

As someone who doesn't know how to sign, it gave me an appreciation for what it must be like for a deaf person to operate in the hearing world. How do you tell someone how you want your hair cut? As I struggled to learn some ASL to get around easier I constantly embarrassed myself by resorting to reflexive pantomime when doing something as simple as trying to order a sandwich at the student center.


I knew a little bit about this but got much more of the...discussions in a fascinating documentary called Sound and Fury, about various people and families struggling with the decision of whether or not to get the implant, especially with the potential for putting it in a smaller child. Some really interesting discussions about deaf culture and whether or not it's a betrayal to try and "cure" yourself of deafness (and boy, there's a word you don't want to toss around in that context).
 
2012-10-11 02:36:50 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: In an effort to cure cancer, assembling an oncologist, a geneticist, and stem-cell researcher is a good kind of diversity.


But the Bible says that marriage is between an oncologist and a molecular biologist. Oncologists marrying geneticists, or god forbid a computational/systems biologist will ruin the whole sacred institution of marriage.
 
2012-10-11 02:39:05 PM  

theorellior: Vectron: Black people don't like the gay. Nothing new.

Unless they're on the d/l. Then a brother gets what a brother needs. And sometimes a brother needs the strong arms and loving touch of another brother.


In high school a black woman was the schools health teacher, she was slightly off her rocker and actually pretty racist against blacks, when covering STDs she told us that HIV was so rampant among the black community because so many black men are on the DL and think its not gay if they dont use a condom. We thought she was just being her usual crazy self but it turns out she was sorta right.

"On today we gonna watch "The Philadelphia Story" with Tom Hanks."
 
2012-10-11 02:39:12 PM  
It was not possible to leave a phone message.

They should have got Garrett Morris to do it.
 
2012-10-11 02:39:45 PM  

cantsleep: Dicey subject. Should your job prevent you from participating in the democratic process? Is there any evidence that her personal beliefs have impacted her job performance?


You know I'm not sure how I feel about this one myself. I believe what you do in your own time is your own business. I also believe she has the right to sign a petition in accordance with her personal beliefs to the government. However it does lead me to question her ability to be fair in her position. On the other hand a person can do a job fairly even if it goes against their beliefs. It's a hard call.
 
2012-10-11 02:44:59 PM  
One of the inherent contradictions of the "diversity" movement is that it has no tolerance for diversity of opinion.
 
2012-10-11 02:46:08 PM  

Lord Dimwit: I remember reading an article about a deaf couple who was having a child. The mother of the child was deaf due to a genetic issue, and they specifically sought out a sperm donor with the same genetic issue to ensure the child would be born deaf. I think that's wrong.

Being deaf is certainly a culture, as there is shared experience and shared language - but that doesn't mean it's not also a disability.



Pretty sure there was a Law & Order episode based around that too.
 
2012-10-11 02:54:37 PM  

theorellior: I'm in a pissy mood, so let me say fark you very much to the God Botherers and Jesus Freaks who seem hell-bent in turning the United States into some backwards backwater full of Wal-Marts and strip-mall churches. Fark you and the horse you rode in on. Fark you and your bullshiat theology. And furthermore, eat a bowl of farking dicks and farking die in a fire.


Word.
 
2012-10-11 02:54:42 PM  
All I can think to say to deeply religious people is...

UNGA BUNGA BUNGA BINGA BONGA BUNGA BUNGA!

It helps to dance around like you'd image a caveman frightened of his own shadow would have when you say it.
 
2012-10-11 02:56:39 PM  

Mugato: "chief diversity officer"? This kind of shiat is why I'm only mostly liberal.


That's the sneakiest way I've ever seen someone admit to having a conservative member.
 
2012-10-11 02:57:08 PM  

ultraholland: I hear Gallaudet's a fabulous place.


I giggled.

/silently
 
2012-10-11 02:59:18 PM  

atomicmask: Why do such stupid pointless rolls exist? Diversity officer...what does that even do exactly? Sit around and look at meaningless statistics? "Not enough brown in the yellow department, needs less white overall" Is my first bet every single working day consists of. Suppression of human nature in order to comply with arbitrary meaningless and ultimately unobtainable lofty goals.


That was kind of my first thought. How can you possibly be a "diversity officer" anyway? You'd have to have virtually zero opinions of your own, or be like me and just hate humanity evenly across the board. This woman probably felt like a token anyway: Look at her hiring qualifications "First deaf African-American PhD!" Wow! Was she also a left-handed gimp closeted lesbian too?

I'm more inclined to feel sorry for her under these circumstances, than feel outraged.
 
2012-10-11 02:59:33 PM  

atomicmask: Why do such stupid pointless rolls exist? Diversity officer...what does that even do exactly? Sit around and look at meaningless statistics? "Not enough brown in the yellow department, needs less white overall" Is my first bet every single working day consists of. Suppression of human nature in order to comply with arbitrary meaningless and ultimately unobtainable lofty goals.


I hear you: You didn't get into Harvard, sunshine.
Enjoy your classes at Rio Salado/ASU West.

/Remember to put on sunscreen - you can still get burnt on a cloudy day.
 
2012-10-11 03:04:45 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Why doesn't Jesus ever tell anyone to do something harmless, like shiat on the buffet at the Sizzler?


I couldn't read this without thinking of this week's Hoarders (maybe the most eminently snarkable show on all TV), who was hoarding all sorts of crap because Jesus told her the Rapture was coming and she needed to stock up for her kids...who apparently were not going to make the cut. The Lord told her to hoard!
 
2012-10-11 03:07:32 PM  
This just in:

Jesus doesn't actually hate gays and never did.
 
2012-10-11 03:10:33 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: McCaskill was the first deaf African American female to earn a Ph.D. from Gallaudet

That's a pretty specific accolade.


Honestly, she's probably got a lot of "1st deaf African American female with a PhD to do [FILL IN BLANK] in her town/county/state trophies in on her wall".
 
2012-10-11 03:13:32 PM  

bobfark: Honestly, she's probably got a lot of "1st deaf African American female with a PhD to do [FILL IN BLANK] in her town/county/state trophies in on her wall".


First deaf African American female with a PhD to get fired from a position as diversity officer.
 
2012-10-11 03:16:43 PM  
some could argue there were reasons -- not based on discrimination -- for opposing gay marriage

Um, no. One could not.
 
2012-10-11 03:17:49 PM  
Free speech includes political speech, and it most definitely includes that speech which we find hateful. I think that petition is hateful - but she had every right in the world to sign it.

If I were in the University I would be taking a good hard look at her record at work, but if she didn't act inappropriately there - REINSTATE HER WITH ALL BACK PAY.


And this is from a libby libby lib that recently benefited from the marriage equality law passing in NY.

/love ya Labgrrl
 
2012-10-11 03:17:53 PM  

Foundling: This just in:

Jesus doesn't actually hate gays and never did.


This also just in: Christians don't really care much about the teachings of Jesus. They are more interested in the Old Testament. It's more rape-y and murder-y.

To their credit, if there really IS a god who is all knowing and all powerful, he would HAVE to be some sort of sadistic nut job.
 
2012-10-11 03:19:56 PM  
If civil unions aren't enough and the gays want marriage equality, one of the buttbangers needs to be the woman. You shouldn't change the titles (man + woman = married) of a long standing tradition just to accommodate a recently accepted sexual fetish. Meet the traditional marriage people halfway.

How wonderful to see black people embracing the gay community and supporting democrats in the fight for gay civil rights. Blacks and gays, arm in arm, hands together as they stand with the gays and support obama.
 
2012-10-11 03:19:56 PM  

JosephFinn: Diogenes: I don't think she should lose her job or anything. Is her job exclusively dedicated to diversity at the school? I would just change her responsibilities.

Gallaudet is an interesting place. I had a three month consulting gig there. It was very enlightening. I was surprised to learn of all the intolerances that existed between different types of deaf people. People who were born deaf sometimes looked down on those who weren't. Kids with cochlear implants were referred to as "refrigerator magnets." Then there's the Bell Society which places a high importance on deaf people learning to speak.

As someone who doesn't know how to sign, it gave me an appreciation for what it must be like for a deaf person to operate in the hearing world. How do you tell someone how you want your hair cut? As I struggled to learn some ASL to get around easier I constantly embarrassed myself by resorting to reflexive pantomime when doing something as simple as trying to order a sandwich at the student center.

I knew a little bit about this but got much more of the...discussions in a fascinating documentary called Sound and Fury, about various people and families struggling with the decision of whether or not to get the implant, especially with the potential for putting it in a smaller child. Some really interesting discussions about deaf culture and whether or not it's a betrayal to try and "cure" yourself of deafness (and boy, there's a word you don't want to toss around in that context).


There are hearing kids who were born to deaf parents that would prefer to go to Gallaudet but can't. They've grown up in a deaf environment and it's where they feel most comfortable.
 
2012-10-11 03:24:16 PM  
Blacks spent centuries cultivating themselves as America's underclass. They've put a lot of time and effort ino [sic] getting to the front of the victimhood line and the sweet, sweet rewards that position brings like welfare checks, affirmative action hiring and Obamaphones.

"Hey Mbutu!"
"Yes, Nkele?"
"I have a great idea!"
"What?"
"Let's get hit over the head and kidnapped by those white folks. They can drag us to their ship and take us to America. You'll die horribly on the way over. And I'll be enslaved, forced to do harsh manual labor, have my culture and religion ripped from me, and lose my children."
"Why would we do that?"
"So in 300 years, our descendants can get free phones!"
"Score!"

/I know. Don't feed the troll.
 
2012-10-11 03:24:36 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: harmle


He's been telling them to give their money to to the poor for a couple thousand years... They just don't hear very well.
 
2012-10-11 03:25:58 PM  

300baud: FirstNationalBastard: harmle


"harmle", yes that was the part I meant to quote.

Harmle.
 
2012-10-11 03:26:21 PM  

Kunochan: Blacks spent centuries cultivating themselves as America's underclass. They've put a lot of time and effort ino [sic] getting to the front of the victimhood line and the sweet, sweet rewards that position brings like welfare checks, affirmative action hiring and Obamaphones.

"Hey Mbutu!"
"Yes, Nkele?"
"I have a great idea!"
"What?"
"Let's get hit over the head and kidnapped by those white folks. They can drag us to their ship and take us to America. You'll die horribly on the way over. And I'll be enslaved, forced to do harsh manual labor, have my culture and religion ripped from me, and lose my children."
"Why would we do that?"
"So in 300 years, our descendants can get free phones!"
"Score!"

/I know. Don't feed the troll.


You do realize more were sold into slavery by other black tribes than were "netted" by evil white people right? But then that would not fit into your hate whitey monologue.
 
2012-10-11 03:26:36 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Worst native America name, ever.


"Two Dogs Fighting? I'd kill to be called 'Two Dogs Fighting.'"
 
2012-10-11 03:28:13 PM  

Diogenes: I don't think she should lose her job or anything. Is her job exclusively dedicated to diversity at the school? I would just change her responsibilities.


Problem solved. Sanitation Technician it is then...
 
2012-10-11 03:36:02 PM  
Well it's good to see the racists are alive and well on Fark.

/no, it's actually not good
 
2012-10-11 03:36:08 PM  

Cybernetic: One of the inherent contradictions of the "diversity" movement is that it has no tolerance for diversity of opinion.


Would you say the same if she were a member of the KKK or petitioning to remove rights of Jews to marry in their own synagogues? There's a difference between tolerating diversity of opinion and tolerating intolerance. As there are no longer secular arguments against marriage equality, homophobia is approaching the dustbin of history. I don't think the university should boot her but I respect their desire to be ahead of the curve of what's considered closed-minded in society.
 
2012-10-11 03:40:20 PM  

themasterdebater: Sanitation Technician it is then...


Oh spare me your PC terminology, Libtard. ;-)
 
2012-10-11 03:54:28 PM  

The Third Man: FirstNationalBastard: Why doesn't Jesus ever tell anyone to do something harmless, like shiat on the buffet at the Sizzler?

I couldn't read this without thinking of this week's Hoarders (maybe the most eminently snarkable show on all TV), who was hoarding all sorts of crap because Jesus told her the Rapture was coming and she needed to stock up for her kids...who apparently were not going to make the cut. The Lord told her to hoard!


She's just not righteous enough. Most people who receive God's message that the kids wouldn't be good enough to rapture would kill their kids, preferably by stoning.
 
2012-10-11 03:59:57 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Why doesn't Jesus ever tell anyone to do something harmless, like shiat on the buffet at the Sizzler?


Or stick their tongue in the Chocolate Waterfall at Golden Corral? or their face even?
 
2012-10-11 04:05:40 PM  

Cyno01: theorellior: Vectron: Black people don't like the gay. Nothing new.

Unless they're on the d/l. Then a brother gets what a brother needs. And sometimes a brother needs the strong arms and loving touch of another brother.

In high school a black woman was the schools health teacher, she was slightly off her rocker and actually pretty racist against blacks, when covering STDs she told us that HIV was so rampant among the black community because so many black men are on the DL and think its not gay if they dont use a condom. We thought she was just being her usual crazy self but it turns out she was sorta right.

"On today we gonna watch "The Philadelphia Story" with Tom Hanks."


Crazy as she might have been, she was right on this one. "It ain't gay if balls don't touch." "It ain't gay cause I don't take no pee-pee in my mouth." "It ain't gay because I don't kiss on the mouth." "We ain't kissing-we just exploring each other's mouths."
 
2012-10-11 04:07:44 PM  
CSB:

At my last company our Diversity Officer, in a Diversity meeting, pointed at a friend of mine from Venezuela and said "I don't know, ask Tito, he's diverse". I pissed my pants.
 
2012-10-11 04:15:21 PM  

bemis23: Well it's good to see the racists are alive and well on Fark.

/no, it's actually not good


While there are probably some legitimate racists here, I think it's perfectly valid to point out the hypocrisy in a black deaf woman, someone who has probably benefited enormously from all kinds of affirmative action/diversity scholarships and perks (based on both race and disability), actively fighting for inequality. The fact that it's her JOB to encourage equality and value people for their difference makes that hypocrisy much more pronounced.
 
2012-10-11 04:15:57 PM  

Airportmatt: I SAID:

"IF YOU'RE THE 'CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER' AT A MAJOR UNIVERSITY, YOU MAY WANT TO SLEEP ON IT BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO SIGN YOUR NAME TO AN ANTI-GAY PETITION, EVEN IF JESUS IS THE ONE TELLING YOU TO DO IT!!!"


Finally this thread made me LOL

Thanks
 
2012-10-11 04:17:18 PM  

Kunochan: some could argue there were reasons -- not based on discrimination -- for opposing gay marriage

Um, no. One could not.


Indeed.
 
2012-10-11 04:19:42 PM  
As much as I want drugs legalized, you will never find my signature on such a petition. Its paperwork tying my personal information that I really dont want the Government to have.
 
2012-10-11 04:24:55 PM  

cman: As much as I want drugs legalized, you will never find my signature on such a petition. Its paperwork tying my personal information that I really dont want the Government to have.


As ignorant, childish and bigoted as this woman might be, at least she publicly claimed her wrongheaded principles, you coward.
 
2012-10-11 04:26:48 PM  

Lumpmoose: Cybernetic: One of the inherent contradictions of the "diversity" movement is that it has no tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Would you say the same if she were a member of the KKK or petitioning to remove rights of Jews to marry in their own synagogues? There's a difference between tolerating diversity of opinion and tolerating intolerance.


I think that other people have the right to hold beliefs that I disagree with, and advocate for those beliefs. If those beliefs are truly stupid, then their advocacy will have the opposite effect of what they intend: that of publicizing the idiocy of their beliefs (see also: Westboro Baptist Church).

As there are no longer secular arguments against marriage equality, homophobia is approaching the dustbin of history. I don't think the university should boot her but I respect their desire to be ahead of the curve of what's considered closed-minded in society.

So then the position of Chief Diversity Officer should require that applicants hold a certain set of pre-approved beliefs, and the university should state that up front. Which would again highlight the inherent contradiction of "Diversity"--that there is actually a rigid orthodoxy of thought against which one rebels at one's own risk.
 
2012-10-11 04:31:12 PM  

highwayrun: cman: As much as I want drugs legalized, you will never find my signature on such a petition. Its paperwork tying my personal information that I really dont want the Government to have.

As ignorant, childish and bigoted as this woman might be, at least she publicly claimed her wrongheaded principles, you coward.


You damn right I am a coward
 
2012-10-11 04:31:28 PM  

Bronzemom: FirstNationalBastard: Why doesn't Jesus ever tell anyone to do something harmless, like shiat on the buffet at the Sizzler?

Or stick their tongue in the Chocolate Waterfall at Golden Corral? or their face even?


and that's why i don't do buffets.
 
2012-10-11 05:13:11 PM  

cman: highwayrun: cman: As much as I want drugs legalized, you will never find my signature on such a petition. Its paperwork tying my personal information that I really dont want the Government to have.

As ignorant, childish and bigoted as this woman might be, at least she publicly claimed her wrongheaded principles, you coward.

You damn right I am a coward



Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
 
2012-10-11 05:16:15 PM  

Airportmatt: I SAID:

"IF YOU'RE THE 'CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER' AT A MAJOR UNIVERSITY, YOU MAY WANT TO SLEEP ON IT BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO SIGN YOUR NAME TO AN ANTI-GAY PETITION, EVEN IF JESUS IS THE ONE TELLING YOU TO DO IT!!!"


brotheryellow.com
 
2012-10-11 05:17:00 PM  

Cybernetic: Lumpmoose: Cybernetic: One of the inherent contradictions of the "diversity" movement is that it has no tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Would you say the same if she were a member of the KKK or petitioning to remove rights of Jews to marry in their own synagogues? There's a difference between tolerating diversity of opinion and tolerating intolerance.

I think that other people have the right to hold beliefs that I disagree with, and advocate for those beliefs. If those beliefs are truly stupid, then their advocacy will have the opposite effect of what they intend: that of publicizing the idiocy of their beliefs (see also: Westboro Baptist Church).

As there are no longer secular arguments against marriage equality, homophobia is approaching the dustbin of history. I don't think the university should boot her but I respect their desire to be ahead of the curve of what's considered closed-minded in society.

So then the position of Chief Diversity Officer should require that applicants hold a certain set of pre-approved beliefs, and the university should state that up front. Which would again highlight the inherent contradiction of "Diversity"--that there is actually a rigid orthodoxy of thought against which one rebels at one's own risk.


The only "prerequisite" is that you're open to the ideas of others and don't seek to deny them fundamental rights just because of who they express those rights with.

Being "too accepting"? YER HIRED!
Being "not accepting enough"? HIT THE BREADLINES!

It's not that hard.

// I have no problem with her signing a petition, but it absolutely gives her employer enough reason to suspect she can't or won't do the job they want her to do
// was once fired - legally - because my employer disagreed with how I did my job
// none of my users complained, they just needed a reason to can me
 
2012-10-11 05:22:34 PM  

roadmarks: Free speech includes political speech, and it most definitely includes that speech which we find hateful. I think that petition is hateful - but she had every right in the world to sign it.

If I were in the University I would be taking a good hard look at her record at work, but if she didn't act inappropriately there - REINSTATE HER WITH ALL BACK PAY.


And this is from a libby libby lib that recently benefited from the marriage equality law passing in NY.

/love ya Labgrrl


Yes, but Free Speech does not mean Free From Consequences. If she's intolerant of same-sex marriage, the university may decide that she's not suited for her position. She's free to male her statement; the university's free to replace her.
 
2012-10-11 05:24:45 PM  

suburbanguy: roadmarks: Free speech includes political speech, and it most definitely includes that speech which we find hateful. I think that petition is hateful - but she had every right in the world to sign it.

If I were in the University I would be taking a good hard look at her record at work, but if she didn't act inappropriately there - REINSTATE HER WITH ALL BACK PAY.


And this is from a libby libby lib that recently benefited from the marriage equality law passing in NY.

/love ya Labgrrl

Yes, but Free Speech does not mean Free From Consequences. If she's intolerant of same-sex marriage, the university may decide that she's not suited for her position. She's free to male her statement; the university's free to replace her.


Think about it as if you were the marketing manager for the Dallas Cowboys. If during the day you did your job perfectly, and the marketing for the Cowboys was awesome and everything was great, that's fine. But if in your time off you signed a petition saying that the Patriots were the BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME then even given your job performance, you might be let go from your job.

/ doesn't watch sports
// knows the names of exactly two football teams
 
2012-10-11 05:56:41 PM  

highwayrun: Cyno01: theorellior: Vectron: Black people don't like the gay. Nothing new.

Unless they're on the d/l. Then a brother gets what a brother needs. And sometimes a brother needs the strong arms and loving touch of another brother.

In high school a black woman was the schools health teacher, she was slightly off her rocker and actually pretty racist against blacks, when covering STDs she told us that HIV was so rampant among the black community because so many black men are on the DL and think its not gay if they dont use a condom. We thought she was just being her usual crazy self but it turns out she was sorta right.

"On today we gonna watch "The Philadelphia Story" with Tom Hanks."

Crazy as she might have been, she was right on this one. "It ain't gay if balls don't touch." "It ain't gay cause I don't take no pee-pee in my mouth." "It ain't gay because I don't kiss on the mouth." "We ain't kissing-we just exploring each other's mouths."


What ridiculous rationalizations. All of those things are totally gay. There's nothing wrong with it, but if you do any of those things you are not "straight".

Also, if you are gonna get paid to be a "Diversity" Anything you should at least have some tolerance for people different from yourself.
 
2012-10-11 06:46:44 PM  

Joe Blowme: You do realize more were sold into slavery by other black tribes than were "netted" by evil white people right? But then that would not fit into your hate whitey monologue.


And this has exactly what to do with anything?

Seriously, rub both your brain cells together and try your hardest to explain why this matters at all.

Use your words.
 
2012-10-11 07:12:16 PM  
So would everybody be as angry if an openly gay diversity officer voted to eliminate the tax exempt status of churches? I doubt it.
 
2012-10-11 07:16:51 PM  
In other news, erudite institutions dedicated to higher learning, wisdom and critical thinking - now need a chief diversity officer.
 
2012-10-11 07:45:18 PM  

andyfromfl: So would everybody be as angry if an openly gay diversity officer voted to eliminate the tax exempt status of churches? I doubt it.


Everybody here yeah, but that would be national news and half the country would lose its collective shiat "see, wes told you teh gays were teh debbil!".

/wouldnt blame any gays for signing that petition, the CLDS shouldve lost its tax exempt status for the prop 8 fiasco
 
2012-10-11 07:48:18 PM  

JasonThomasX: highwayrun: Cyno01: theorellior: Vectron: Black people don't like the gay. Nothing new.

Unless they're on the d/l. Then a brother gets what a brother needs. And sometimes a brother needs the strong arms and loving touch of another brother.

In high school a black woman was the schools health teacher, she was slightly off her rocker and actually pretty racist against blacks, when covering STDs she told us that HIV was so rampant among the black community because so many black men are on the DL and think its not gay if they dont use a condom. We thought she was just being her usual crazy self but it turns out she was sorta right.

"On today we gonna watch "The Philadelphia Story" with Tom Hanks."

Crazy as she might have been, she was right on this one. "It ain't gay if balls don't touch." "It ain't gay cause I don't take no pee-pee in my mouth." "It ain't gay because I don't kiss on the mouth." "We ain't kissing-we just exploring each other's mouths."

What ridiculous rationalizations. All of those things are totally gay. There's nothing wrong with it, but if you do any of those things you are not "straight".

Also, if you are gonna get paid to be a "Diversity" Anything you should at least have some tolerance for people different from yourself.


My point was, the health teacher was right that infection rates are high among down-low black men because of rationalizations like the ones I provided. You and I and the health teacher are all aware, as the cowardly down-low community is apparently not, of how empty these excuses are.
 
2012-10-11 09:26:44 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Cybernetic: Lumpmoose: Cybernetic: One of the inherent contradictions of the "diversity" movement is that it has no tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Would you say the same if she were a member of the KKK or petitioning to remove rights of Jews to marry in their own synagogues? There's a difference between tolerating diversity of opinion and tolerating intolerance.

I think that other people have the right to hold beliefs that I disagree with, and advocate for those beliefs. If those beliefs are truly stupid, then their advocacy will have the opposite effect of what they intend: that of publicizing the idiocy of their beliefs (see also: Westboro Baptist Church).

As there are no longer secular arguments against marriage equality, homophobia is approaching the dustbin of history. I don't think the university should boot her but I respect their desire to be ahead of the curve of what's considered closed-minded in society.

So then the position of Chief Diversity Officer should require that applicants hold a certain set of pre-approved beliefs, and the university should state that up front. Which would again highlight the inherent contradiction of "Diversity"--that there is actually a rigid orthodoxy of thought against which one rebels at one's own risk.

The only "prerequisite" is that you're open to the ideas of others and don't seek to deny them fundamental rights just because of who they express those rights with.

Being "too accepting"? YER HIRED!
Being "not accepting enough"? HIT THE BREADLINES!

It's not that hard.

// I have no problem with her signing a petition, but it absolutely gives her employer enough reason to suspect she can't or won't do the job they want her to do
// was once fired - legally - because my employer disagreed with how I did my job
// none of my users complained, they just needed a reason to can me


You just made my point for me. Your "too accepting/not accepting enough" criterion is the same as my statement that you have to hold a certain set of pre-approved beliefs to qualify for that job. And the university may be well within its rights to fire her, and she may, objectively, be a bad fit for a position that is inherently political (which any "diversity" position is).

The fact that the university wouldn't make that clear up front (i.e. before she took the job) is an excellent example of the disingenuousness inherent in the term "diversity", which is just a fig leaf for political correctness--a term that fell out of favor when people started to get uncomfortable with the concept of an orthodoxy of ideas enforced by a self-appointed thought police.

If that's the way that the university wants to run their show, they are certainly entitled to do so. But they should have the courage to call the job what it is--a Chief Political Officer, or a Chief Orthodoxy Officer. Or maybe just call it Chief Commisar.
 
2012-10-11 11:48:10 PM  
Anne Frank would be very sad to hear about this, except she couldn't.
 
2012-10-12 01:00:34 AM  

Lumpmoose: Cybernetic: One of the inherent contradictions of the "diversity" movement is that it has no tolerance for diversity of opinion.

Would you say the same if she were a member of the KKK or petitioning to remove rights of Jews to marry in their own synagogues? There's a difference between tolerating diversity of opinion and tolerating intolerance. As there are no longer secular arguments against marriage equality, homophobia is approaching the dustbin of history. I don't think the university should boot her but I respect their desire to be ahead of the curve of what's considered closed-minded in society.


There weren't too many blacks people in the KKK, but do continue.
 
2012-10-12 03:03:01 AM  

Vectron: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Worst native America name, ever.

Here's another:

[www.tailopez.com image 338x450]

Chief Running Dog of Capitalism


www.adweek.com

I never really got "running dog." What's wrong with a dog who runs? Isn't running a GOOD thing? Eventually I had to look it up to realize it's a really, really bad translation of a word that basically means "lackey" (which, granted, one could probably guess from context). I guess the moral of the story is that good translators are hard to find.
 
2012-10-12 03:05:12 AM  

Happy Hours: Diogenes: Gallaudet is an interesting place. I had a three month consulting gig there. It was very enlightening. I was surprised to learn of all the intolerances that existed between different types of deaf people. People who were born deaf sometimes looked down on those who weren't. Kids with cochlear implants were referred to as "refrigerator magnets." .

Wow. I think that's kind of farked up. I've only known a few deaf people. I always felt kind of sorry for them, but I guess they can be assholes too. Having a disability apparently doesn't mean you have any tolerance for other people.


I'm reminded of an old Thracian story about grapes for some odd reason.
 
2012-10-12 03:23:01 AM  

highwayrun: Crazy as she might have been, she was right on this one. "It ain't gay if balls don't touch." "It ain't gay cause I don't take no pee-pee in my mouth." "It ain't gay because I don't kiss on the mouth." "We ain't kissing-we just exploring each other's mouths."


JasonThomasX: What ridiculous rationalizations. All of those things are totally gay. There's nothing wrong with it, but if you do any of those things you are not "straight".


There are so many men who have sex with other men without acknowledging/accepting that they are gay or bisexual that it's a major issue with substantial epidemiological repercussions. The American "Down low" phenomenon is just the most recent example. However obvious it might be to you or I that such people are gay, and however transparent such claims that it "isn't really gay" might be, it's a very common thing. 

Anyone who deals with public hygiene, AIDS prevention, etc. has to take it into account.
 
2012-10-12 09:37:43 AM  
How is a church, with tax exempt status, passing around political petitions?
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2012-10-13 03:36:38 PM  

fluffy2097: How is a church, with tax exempt status, passing around political petitions?
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Ask the Rev. Wright, he campaigned for Prez Zed from the pulpit.
 
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