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(BBC)   Here's a short bio on Malala Yousafzai, the 14 year old girl recovering after being shot in the head by the Taliban for campaigning to go to school. Go tell the apathetic whiny teenager in your life to get a grip and be thankful   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 26
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2012-10-11 09:57:39 AM
6 votes:

Joe Blowme: Islam is awsome!!


I'd say she's a shining example of it.
2012-10-11 09:58:05 AM
4 votes:
I really hope this is the turning point against these assholes in the region. The Taliban isn't exactly widely popular as it is, maybe this is what will finally push people over the edge and some righteous outrage can overwhelm their fear and lead a big backlash to push these useless twats back into their caves where they belong.
2012-10-11 11:42:04 AM
2 votes:

Olympus Mons: Where are the normal people in these countries...this religion...seriously? If they can get all bent out of shape over a cartoon (like a bunch of 7 year old spoiled brats) or a crappy movie...where the fark is the outrage over something like this?


static.guim.co.uk 

The regional governor, Masood Kausar, said officials had identified the attackers. The local government has posted a 10m rupee reward for their capture.
2012-10-11 10:26:23 AM
2 votes:

MythDragon: I am thinking Afganistan would make a fine obsidian parking lot.


Well, that wouldn't really stop the Taliban from shooting people in Pakistan, now would it?
2012-10-11 10:18:50 AM
2 votes:

ronaprhys: Technically you can. Kill them all. Those who hate and are ignorant, in that specific area, would be dead. Therefore, hatred and ignorance would be stopped.

Another potential way to do it would be to kill everyone who's more than, say, 5 years old. Past that, take all of the children and adopt them into nice homes in relatively affluent areas. Socialization with the more civilized will take over their training and then you'll have pretty well adjusted folks.

I'm not saying that either of these suggestions are easily doable or should be attempted, but the fact is that one can stop all sorts of things via violence. The proper question is should one do so, and that answer depends on the situation.


That is some amazingly ignorant and short-sighted reasoning. Even ignoring the massive technical hurdles to committing age-targeted genocide on a scale that large in a part of the world that poorly connected it's sort of a child-like view of human nature that says you can just take a five year old after you've murdered his parents and reshape him without any serious and long-lasting repercussions. Not to mention the massive conspiracy and world-wide historical revisionism you'd have to commit to cover up your atrocities in the vain hope you could prevent some number of these children from learning that you're just as big a monster as the people you killed and having them turn on you anyway out of hatred.

My point being that your comment was insanely stupid on multiple levels and I'm not sure what compelled you to make it.
2012-10-11 10:11:01 AM
2 votes:
Where are the normal people in these countries...this religion...seriously? If they can get all bent out of shape over a cartoon (like a bunch of 7 year old spoiled brats) or a crappy movie...where the fark is the outrage over something like this?
2012-10-11 10:04:31 AM
2 votes:
this kind of shiat happens all the time there, telling these stories as often and as loudly as possible will do more to turn people against and exterminate the human trash that make up the taliban than holding fire bases in the hindu kush.
2012-10-11 10:00:41 AM
2 votes:
This is the sort of shiat I would like to see the fury and might of the US armed forces fix.
2012-10-11 09:57:09 AM
2 votes:
Someone please invent a time machine so I can go back in time and smother Abraham in his crib.
2012-10-11 09:54:35 AM
2 votes:
Islam is awsome!!
2012-10-11 12:50:45 PM
1 votes:
Maybe we can negotiate with them, we'll stop protecting the growing of Heroin and you can let girls be educated.
2012-10-11 11:31:59 AM
1 votes:

master_dman: See.. that's just the thing. You are trying to tell me that MOST muslims aren't like this.. but yet there were 10s of THOUSANDS of people in 30 countries that were rioting, looting, killing, and calling for heads over a frickin cartoon.


Tens of thousands of Americans turned out to support Scott Walker's anti-union-ness - are all Americans anti-union?
Tens of thousands of Americans turned out to support Glenn Beck's 9/12 madness - are all Americans in the 9/12 mindset?
Tens of millions of Americans vote in American Idol polls - are all Americans AI fans?
Tens of millions of Americans turned out to support McCain's presidential bid - are all Americans pro-McCain?

"10s of thousands"?! That's as many as 100 thousands, and that's a lot.

// never mind a billion Muslims throughout the world - most live outside the MidEast - less than 1% are violent!
2012-10-11 11:29:10 AM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: H31N0US: Someone please invent a time machine so I can go back in time and smother Abraham in his crib.

Abraham? The one who, according to tradition, upset the applecart of polytheism in the first place (making him something of a liberal revolutionary for his time)? You may as well say that, to prevent Typhus, you want to go back and murder Typhoid Mary. It may alleviate some problems, but that one person wasn't the cause of (and won't be the solution to) your problem.

I think what you mean is, "I want to murder dogmatic religion in its crib".

// good luck, we're all counting on you
// alternatively, you could add a line to the Bible that says "But, for god's sake, think critically, and don't let transvestites with collars lead you around by the nose"
// funny thing - Deuteronomy kind of does say that, but apparently people took that to mean "Only listen to transvestites with collars when they promise you eternal salvation"


Sssshhh. Everyone knows that if religion vanished overnight, mankind would magically get over it's incredible desire to divide people into groups of us vs. them, and we'd all live togetehr and peace and harmony.

The human pondscum that do stuff like turn religions centered around "Seriously, don't be a dick" and use it to steal land from others, or incite people to murder, or prevent folks who love each other from being married, or who just like to control people, TOTALLY wouldn't jump to some other vehicle of tribalism. Like, say, nationalism. Nope. Totally wouldn't happen.
2012-10-11 11:23:16 AM
1 votes:

factoryconnection: master_dman: In Islam.. about 10% are decent upstanding world citizens.
The other 90% want to kill everybody and force sharia law on everyone.

Using the Taliban, a group so extreme that most in Pakistan consider them scoundrels, as the model for all Muslims is quite a stretch.

But it is strange to think that a billion people worldwide will invite god's mercy on their soul by never tasting a beer or bacon.


See.. that's just the thing. You are trying to tell me that MOST muslims aren't like this.. but yet there were 10s of THOUSANDS of people in 30 countries that were rioting, looting, killing, and calling for heads over a frickin cartoon.

And even MORE rioting and looting and killing over a crappy movie that was so amateurish I don't even have the sarcastic words to describe it.

Where is the outrage and rioting over a 14 yr old girl being shot for going to school?
**crickets**

Pretty please tell me where the upstanding people of this muslim religion are?
**crickets**
2012-10-11 10:58:46 AM
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: ronaprhys: Technically you can. Kill them all. Those who hate and are ignorant, in that specific area, would be dead. Therefore, hatred and ignorance would be stopped.

Another potential way to do it would be to kill everyone who's more than, say, 5 years old. Past that, take all of the children and adopt them into nice homes in relatively affluent areas. Socialization with the more civilized will take over their training and then you'll have pretty well adjusted folks.

I'm not saying that either of these suggestions are easily doable or should be attempted, but the fact is that one can stop all sorts of things via violence. The proper question is should one do so, and that answer depends on the situation.

That is some amazingly ignorant and short-sighted reasoning. Even ignoring the massive technical hurdles to committing age-targeted genocide on a scale that large in a part of the world that poorly connected it's sort of a child-like view of human nature that says you can just take a five year old after you've murdered his parents and reshape him without any serious and long-lasting repercussions. Not to mention the massive conspiracy and world-wide historical revisionism you'd have to commit to cover up your atrocities in the vain hope you could prevent some number of these children from learning that you're just as big a monster as the people you killed and having them turn on you anyway out of hatred.

My point being that your comment was insanely stupid on multiple levels and I'm not sure what compelled you to make it.


He's right, you're just too emotional to realize it. In fact, his idea is exactly how the Thuggee's in India were suppressed.
2012-10-11 10:33:13 AM
1 votes:

H31N0US: Dr Dreidel: Abraham? The one who, according to tradition, upset the applecart of polytheism in the first place (making him something of a liberal revolutionary for his time)? You may as well say that, to prevent Typhus, you want to go back and murder Typhoid Mary. It may alleviate some problems, but that one person wasn't the cause of (and won't be the solution to) your problem.

You understand my sentiment exactly. Most likely, there were other monotheistic religions before him. However, his cult and it's derivatives seem to have wreaked the most havoc on the human stage.

That was my point.


I'd argue that, given human nature, the only difference would be the names and leaders of said cults or other power structures. Power-hungry humans will find a way to subjugate other humans and will use whatever means of justification they can sell to make it happen.
2012-10-11 10:22:29 AM
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I'm not saying that either of these suggestions are easily doable or should be attempted, but the fact is that one can stop all sorts of things via violence. The proper question is should one do so, and that answer depends on the situation.

That is some amazingly ignorant and short-sighted reasoning. Even ignoring the massive technical hurdles to committing age-targeted genocide on a scale that large in a part of the world that poorly connected it's sort of a child-like view of human nature that says you can just take a five year old after you've murdered his parents and reshape him without any serious and long-lasting repercussions. Not to mention the massive conspiracy and world-wide historical revisionism you'd have to commit to cover up your atrocities in the vain hope you could prevent some number of these children from learning that you're just as big a monster as the people you killed and having them turn on you anyway out of hatred.

My point being that your comment was insanely stupid on multiple levels and I'm not sure what compelled you to make it.


I've bolded a point that you seem to have missed. The truly stupid comment is the violence never stops/fixes anything. History is littered with examples of violence stopping and fixing all sorts of things. There is absolutely a cost, no doubt. That cost may be a higher price than just letting whatever crap is going on continue to exist, however, to ignore the fact that it can solve, stop, and fix things is plainly childish.
2012-10-11 10:18:45 AM
1 votes:

what_now: SuperT: I didn't say, kill, I said fix. You know another group who can, on zero notice, be anywhere on earth in 24 hours ready willing and able to build civilization and are equipped to protect citizenry? All without a profit motive? If so, by all means, send them.

Yeah..they aren't equipped to build or protect. That's not what the military- any military- is for.

And do you really think that you can stop ideas at the point of a gun? You think that sending a troop of Marines to walk little girls to school will a) change minds about education women or b) strengthen opposition to educating women?


i.huffpost.com

Lest we forget.

// didn't end racism in the US/South, not by a long shot, but when people see that you're willing to do whatever it takes - and they see that the consequences of "letting the (black) girl go to school are...nothing - they're less likely to keep buying the bullshiat
2012-10-11 10:14:33 AM
1 votes:

Olympus Mons: Where are the normal people in these countries...this religion...seriously? If they can get all bent out of shape over a cartoon (like a bunch of 7 year old spoiled brats) or a crappy movie...where the fark is the outrage over something like this?


There have been widespread protests in Pakistan against the shooting.

In Pakistan, evidently.
2012-10-11 10:13:42 AM
1 votes:

what_now: You cannot stop hatred and ignorance through violence.


Technically you can. Kill them all. Those who hate and are ignorant, in that specific area, would be dead. Therefore, hatred and ignorance would be stopped.

Another potential way to do it would be to kill everyone who's more than, say, 5 years old. Past that, take all of the children and adopt them into nice homes in relatively affluent areas. Socialization with the more civilized will take over their training and then you'll have pretty well adjusted folks.

I'm not saying that either of these suggestions are easily doable or should be attempted, but the fact is that one can stop all sorts of things via violence. The proper question is should one do so, and that answer depends on the situation.
2012-10-11 10:06:18 AM
1 votes:

SuperT: This is the sort of shiat I would like to see the fury and might of the US armed forces fix.


That...is quite possibly the worst idea I've ever heard.

You've got a group of violent, uneducated twits who think Western values are ruining the world. They have no educational or employment opportunities, and the people running things tell them it's because of the United States.

So...let's kill a bunch of them. The survivors will love us then!

Reagan farked this up. He left Afghanistan in ruins and allowed a generation of boys to grow up as hopeless orphans with absolutely no way of getting out of poverty.

You cannot stop hatred and ignorance through violence.
2012-10-11 10:06:08 AM
1 votes:
Religion of peace people.

To all you apologists out there.. YOU have it backwards.

In Islam.. about 10% are decent upstanding world citizens.
The other 90% want to kill everybody and force sharia law on everyone.
2012-10-11 10:05:12 AM
1 votes:

SuperT: This is the sort of shiat I would like to see the fury and might of the US armed forces fix.


but armed forces aren't for fixing, they are for destroying. if you absolutely positively need something destroyed overnight call the armed forces. if you want to build up a society in a foreign nation, look some where else.
2012-10-11 10:01:56 AM
1 votes:
Wait a minute, I was always taught doing homework never killed anyone...
2012-10-11 09:59:31 AM
1 votes:

Lumpmoose: I'd say she's a shining example of it.


Can we please just ignore the pool shiatters for once instead of giving them the spotlight they want? They're the internet equivalent of a naked hobo smearing shiat all over themselves in the town square. Yea, it's pretty hard to look away, but try anyway.
2012-10-11 09:56:42 AM
1 votes:
Girl is definitely a hero
 
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