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(Chron)   Finally, Patriotic Republicans® have a verifiable case of voter fraud to help them prove they need ID at the polls to stop the libs from throwing the elections. If you are wondering about Subby's use of the Ironic tag, well, just click the link   (chron.com) divider line 65
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2012-10-11 09:03:10 AM
Ironic? Maybe. Surprising? Not at all.
 
2012-10-11 09:06:52 AM
A voter ID law wouldn't have prevented this.
 
2012-10-11 09:10:02 AM

Aarontology: A voter ID law wouldn't have prevented this.


Nope.
 
2012-10-11 09:12:36 AM
FTFA: "A Republican precinct chairman..." and "Fleming ... voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential primary in Texas. "

WFT?
 
2012-10-11 09:13:36 AM

MrBallou: FTFA: "A Republican precinct chairman..." and "Fleming ... voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential primary in Texas. "

WFT?

^WTF?
 
2012-10-11 09:14:44 AM

Gwendolyn: Aarontology: A voter ID law wouldn't have prevented this.

Nope.


Most of the time we hear a story about this kind of thing a voter ID law wouldn't have prevented it. Either the crime was at a part of the process where you don't need an ID (And wouldn't even with a voter ID law) or happened after a voter presented the ID.
 
2012-10-11 09:15:34 AM

MrBallou: MrBallou: FTFA: "A Republican precinct chairman..." and "Fleming ... voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential primary in Texas. "

WFT?
^WTF?


Remember Limbaugh's operation chaos when he encouraged people to vote for Clinton over Obama? I'm guessing it was part of that.
 
2012-10-11 09:16:43 AM
I like his quote - "until we can determine the situation" - um, I'm pretty sure it's a fairly straight-forward situation, and you don't forget that you voted already.
 
2012-10-11 09:19:37 AM

Aarontology: MrBallou: MrBallou: FTFA: "A Republican precinct chairman..." and "Fleming ... voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential primary in Texas. "

WFT?
^WTF?

Remember Limbaugh's operation chaos when he encouraged people to vote for Clinton over Obama? I'm guessing it was part of that.


Let's be brazen, how 'bout. Jesus.
 
2012-10-11 09:30:53 AM

MrBallou: Let's be brazen, how 'bout. Jesus.


I think it's in one of the letters to the Corinthians. "And Jesus spake unto the Texans "yea, voteth in a primary for the lulz for this pleases the lord"
 
2012-10-11 09:31:27 AM
This voter fraud is okay.
 
2012-10-11 09:32:00 AM

Aarontology: MrBallou: MrBallou: FTFA: "A Republican precinct chairman..." and "Fleming ... voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential primary in Texas. "

WFT?
^WTF?

Remember Limbaugh's operation chaos when he encouraged people to vote for Clinton over Obama? I'm guessing it was part of that.


More than that, I thought it was supposed to be a secret ballot. Apparently now the local newspaper can find out who you voted for and publish it?
 
2012-10-11 09:39:28 AM

CreamFilling: More than that, I thought it was supposed to be a secret ballot. Apparently now the local newspaper can find out who you voted for and publish it?


Maybe he's brought it up before.
 
2012-10-11 10:02:50 AM
Sugarland, Texas. The home of of Tom Delay. Must be something in the water down there.
 
2012-10-11 10:18:34 AM

Gwendolyn: Aarontology: A voter ID law wouldn't have prevented this.

Nope.


Also why it's ironic?
 
2012-10-11 10:20:09 AM
IOKIYAR
 
2012-10-11 10:37:33 AM
Voter ID laws would do nothing to stop this.

The only thing a voter ID law does is prove that you are who you say you are.

Now, if you have a fake ID, which every single college kid can tell you how to get, you can get around that law.
 
2012-10-11 11:31:52 AM

impaler:

Also why it's ironic?


This. There is no appreciable voter fraud in this country, and the stuff that dose exist is done by Republicans in ways that would not be stopped by a Voter ID law.

We expect this now. Not ironic.
 
2012-10-11 11:41:08 AM

CreamFilling: More than that, I thought it was supposed to be a secret ballot. Apparently now the local newspaper can find out who you voted for and publish it?


It's a sad day for America...
 
2012-10-11 11:44:09 AM

MrBallou: MrBallou: FTFA: "A Republican precinct chairman..." and "Fleming ... voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential primary in Texas. "

WFT?
^WTF?


Texas has an open primary.
 
2012-10-11 11:46:09 AM

MrBallou: FTFA: "A Republican precinct chairman..." and "Fleming ... voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential primary in Texas. "

WFT?


RINO!!
 
2012-10-11 11:46:38 AM
Now Demcrats will be on board for Voter ID laws!
 
2012-10-11 11:53:28 AM

Aarontology: MrBallou: MrBallou: FTFA: "A Republican precinct chairman..." and "Fleming ... voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential primary in Texas. "

WFT?
^WTF?

Remember Limbaugh's operation chaos when he encouraged people to vote for Clinton over Obama? I'm guessing it was part of that.


I seem to remember Anne Coulter having a bit of a kerfuffle regarding voting in one county while being registered in another...
 
2012-10-11 11:53:40 AM
Republicans falsely accuse others of the very same crimes they regularly commit? You don't say.
 
2012-10-11 11:54:26 AM
Oh, look, rightists committing the crimes they accuse others of. Must be a day that ends in Y.

Right-wing nationalists are literally pure evil in every respect.
 
2012-10-11 11:54:56 AM
I thought it was that new O'queef video he's pushing
 
2012-10-11 11:56:36 AM

Gwendolyn: Aarontology: A voter ID law wouldn't have prevented this.

Nope.


well, pennsylvania's new voter id law would have! all they would need is a patriot to contest his and his wife's votes during the counting.
 
2012-10-11 11:56:51 AM
This is my shocked face.
 
2012-10-11 11:58:54 AM

naughtyrev: I like his quote - "until we can determine the situation" - um, I'm pretty sure it's a fairly straight-forward situation, and you don't forget that you voted already.


can't really beat the "the less said the better" comment at the beginning of that.
 
2012-10-11 12:00:44 PM

CreamFilling: Remember Limbaugh's operation chaos when he encouraged people to vote for Clinton over Obama? I'm guessing it was part of that.

More than that, I thought it was supposed to be a secret ballot. Apparently now the local newspaper can find out who you voted for and publish it?


Umm no, how you vote isn't recorded anywhere unless someone looked over your shoulder. There is no record of how you voted. The guy probably just bragged about it. But there is a record of going to the poll and receiving a ballot, that is enough to convict him, his only defense could be "I tore up the ballot and left". Impossible to prove but doubtful.
 
2012-10-11 12:04:18 PM

Aarontology: A voter ID law wouldn't have prevented this.


That right there.
 
2012-10-11 12:04:29 PM
This guy isn't a criminal. He just loves freedom and America so much that he actively participates in the process twice as hard as the rest of you lazy slouchers. Besides, voter fraud doesn't matter unless it's brown people doing it. Because we all know no Democrat could ever get elected without the help of Mexicans who are here illegally. Real Americans would just never let that happen.
 
2012-10-11 12:04:32 PM

Aarontology: A voter ID law wouldn't have prevented this.


Came to say this.
 
2012-10-11 12:06:17 PM

MindStalker: CreamFilling: Remember Limbaugh's operation chaos when he encouraged people to vote for Clinton over Obama? I'm guessing it was part of that.

More than that, I thought it was supposed to be a secret ballot. Apparently now the local newspaper can find out who you voted for and publish it?

Umm no, how you vote isn't recorded anywhere unless someone looked over your shoulder. There is no record of how you voted. The guy probably just bragged about it. But there is a record of going to the poll and receiving a ballot, that is enough to convict him, his only defense could be "I tore up the ballot and left". Impossible to prove but doubtful.


Actually, if he shows up on the voter rolls , which does get taken down by the poll workers, and there is a mail in ballot for the same individual mailed in.... there could be a case for it. However all he would have to do, is say someone else filled out his mailed in one and forged his name. Of course the idiot admitted to it.
 
2012-10-11 12:06:45 PM
Had a town-council candidate do this a year ago in my county (I run a polling place there so the story piqued my interest), in an even dumber way: she voted early/absentee and then showed up at her polling place on Election Day to vote again.

She learned the hard way that the Big-Ass Book O'Names notes who voted absentee already. And even if the poll-worker would have somehow missed the big honkin' A on her sticker, they'd have noticed downtown when they processed the Authorization to Vote forms (you know, the source of the list anyone can see online of who voted in what elections?)

People who somehow still think voter impersonation is rampant: Find some people on that list as having voted, who didn't vote. And/or find some people getting busted in what looks like an attempt to vote twice. Or STFU.
 
2012-10-11 12:07:17 PM
More headlines should have instructions like this. Often I find myself wanting to know more and unsure how to get such information. It would have been helpful if subby had specified "left-click" because for a few minutes I wasn't getting anywhere.
 
2012-10-11 12:07:32 PM
Is this Houston, where all the voting machines for heavily Democratic districts burned in a 'Mysterious' warehouse fire 2 weeks before the 2008 election?
 
2012-10-11 12:09:55 PM
I'm......filling out my absentee ball-ot,
Can't tell you how, cuz it's a secret,
I'm sending in my absentee ball-ot,
Whoops! Darn, it was a triplicate.
 
2012-10-11 12:09:55 PM
Although most of the voter ID laws would do nothing to prevent this, it may make it a lot easier to convict this yo-yo.
 
2012-10-11 12:11:20 PM
FTFA: According to the Texas Election Code, knowingly voting or attempting to vote more than once in an election was a third-degree felony until the Texas Legislature upgraded the offense to a second-degree felony in 2011.

Nice.

My amateur Google-fu tells me that for a third-degree felony in Texas, the punishment ranges from two to ten years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine. That's a minimum of two years, not a suggestion. And I'd expect that a court reviewing his case would not go lightly on him, seeing as he's a politician who has absolutely no chance of claiming ignorance of the law.
 
2012-10-11 12:11:42 PM

MindStalker: CreamFilling: Remember Limbaugh's operation chaos when he encouraged people to vote for Clinton over Obama? I'm guessing it was part of that.

More than that, I thought it was supposed to be a secret ballot. Apparently now the local newspaper can find out who you voted for and publish it?

Umm no, how you vote isn't recorded anywhere unless someone looked over your shoulder. There is no record of how you voted. The guy probably just bragged about it. But there is a record of going to the poll and receiving a ballot, that is enough to convict him, his only defense could be "I tore up the ballot and left". Impossible to prove but doubtful.


Can't speak to those States' procedures, but here in NC every ballot we get from the board has to be accounted for. The discrepancy in number of Authorization To Vote forms issued vs. the number of ballots counted would get noticed.
 
2012-10-11 12:12:03 PM

what_now: Voter ID laws would do nothing to stop this.

The only thing a voter ID law does is prove that you are who you say you are.

Now, if you have a fake ID, which every single college kid can tell you how to get, you can get around that law.


I remember my mom bringing up voter ID laws. When I stated they were completely ineffective and a waste of time (because they can be faked) she said, "Oh that was true back in my day, but you can't fake them anymore." I feel kind of bad about it now, but I openly laughed in her face and asked, "Do you know anyone in college???"
 
2012-10-11 12:16:46 PM

syzygy whizz: I seem to remember Anne Coulter having a bit of a kerfuffle regarding voting in one county while being registered in another...


Another example of trumped up slander from the left...
 
2012-10-11 12:17:26 PM

THX 1138: FTFA: According to the Texas Election Code, knowingly voting or attempting to vote more than once in an election was a third-degree felony until the Texas Legislature upgraded the offense to a second-degree felony in 2011.

Nice.

My amateur Google-fu tells me that for a third-degree felony in Texas, the punishment ranges from two to ten years in prison and up to a $10,000 fine. That's a minimum of two years, not a suggestion. And I'd expect that a court reviewing his case would not go lightly on him, seeing as he's a politician who has absolutely no chance of claiming ignorance of the law.


I'd almost put money on this person never even being slapped on the wrist over this. Politicians just live by a different set of rules. We had a (recently recalled) state representative get caught by the cops drunkenly swerving his car all over the road with his mistress in the passenger seat. No charges.
 
2012-10-11 12:19:34 PM
It's not just the candidate, but his wife too! So now we have TWO cases of voter fraud (oh noes! The sky is a fallin')

Glad that PA just pushed back the start date of voter ID (yes, yes, we agree that unless it's a national registry a voter ID law at the state level is empty and meaningless...)

At least he voted for Hillary - we don't know who the missus voted for since she mailed in her ballot.

GOP - where you vote early and vote often (instead of Dems who vote early and vote dead?)
 
2012-10-11 12:22:44 PM

FrailChild: syzygy whizz: I seem to remember Anne Coulter having a bit of a kerfuffle regarding voting in one county while being registered in another...

Another example of trumped up slander from the left...



DEFLECTIONS AT FULL, CAPTAIN!
 
2012-10-11 12:23:41 PM
"Finally"?!?

In the past month or so, haven't all cases of voter/registration fraud been perpetrated by Republicans?
 
2012-10-11 12:24:15 PM
With all the focus and media efforts to trump up this issue, I've heard of more actual cases of voter fraud this year (reported this year, anyway) than in the rest of my life combined (/old-ish) and all but one case involved a Republican offender.
 
2012-10-11 12:25:10 PM
This is really a 1%'er Republican problem, because only the 1%'er are rich enough to have multiple homes across the country. And also, the home voting district should be the singular "primary" home that a person has. I'm guessing that the Founding Fathers may not have anticipated having citizens who live in multiple states voting in multiple jurisdictions (since traveling from one polling place to another would be prohibitively difficult back then). Now, one is literally capable of casting a vote in Raleigh North Carolina and flying out to California to personally cast another set of votes in Los Angeles.

What's needed is a national voter ID card and national vote recording devices that one would have to scan the card through. As for vote-by-mail and early voting, I need to think of how to deal with that as well.
 
2012-10-11 12:34:02 PM

Madbassist1: Ironic? Maybe. Surprising? Not at all.


A "shocked-SHOCKED!" tag would be appropriate.
 
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