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(BBC)   Security Minister claims hearing violent crimes statistics makes you more likely to commit murder, in the same way that reading Playboy makes me more likely to sleep with a centrefold   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 38
    More: Asinine, Trinidad and Tobago, violent crime, Mr Williams, Playboy  
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2012-10-11 10:22:52 AM
My blood runs cold.
 
2012-10-11 10:57:43 AM
Hmm. Off to watch Brad Pitt movies over and over again.

/it could work, dammit
 
2012-10-11 11:15:18 AM

Sybarite: My blood runs cold.


My memory has just been sold.
 
2012-10-11 11:33:19 AM
So, is it because the statistics are getting lower that people hear them and want to keep the average up?

/U S A! U S A!
 
2012-10-11 12:23:59 PM
I see a small granule of 'sure' in this.

Anecdotally; there were a slew of men killing their wives/girlfriends in my city, about one a week for over two months. There was a two week period where three women were shot by their exes or SOs in broad daylight in public - witnesses galore. You have to stop and wonder if at least one or a couple of those men didn't see the reports of one of the cases and thinks to himself: Yeah, I hate my wife/estranged wife/girlfriend too; sounds like a good idea
 
2012-10-11 12:41:55 PM
Dear Penthouse Forum,

I'm just an average guy with a 10-inch schwantz, but I guess even the pool boy gets lucky sometimes........
 
2012-10-11 01:08:01 PM
It is a common mistake.

"Hearing violent crime statistics" sounds almost like "hearing a Security Minister make a goddam stupid idiot comment", which studies show definitely DOES raise the desire to kill.
 
2012-10-11 01:08:24 PM
Jack Warner?
imageshack.us

"Good evening all" 

/obscure?
 
2012-10-11 01:09:33 PM

Somacandra: Sybarite: My blood runs cold.

My memory has just been sold.


Freeze-frame!
 
2012-10-11 01:10:59 PM
In before IT'S SPELLED CENTERFOLD
 
2012-10-11 01:14:17 PM
Self-prophesying fulfillment?
 
2012-10-11 01:17:56 PM

dabbletech: Self-prophesying fulfillment?


More like self-fulfillment prophesy, methinks...
 
2012-10-11 01:18:02 PM

RedPhoenix122: /U S A! U S A!


What does the USA have to do with Trinidad and Tobago?
 
2012-10-11 01:18:04 PM
Ok... wow. The guy actually said that.
 
2012-10-11 01:20:06 PM
It's not that hearing about violent crime makes all of us slightly more likely to commit one, it's that a small minority are substantially more likely. The numbers can be equally well explained by either hypothesis, but the second is far more plausible. I am not more likely to commit a violent crime, and neither are the vast majority of people.
 
2012-10-11 01:21:03 PM
People have odd beliefs in 3rd world countries.
 
2012-10-11 01:22:00 PM
yeah, IDK about that... all we hear about on the news here in the US is violent crime, people think it's worse than it's ever been, yet the actual rates are down to those of the early 60s....

Perhaps there are two (or more) things at play here. Maybe it does encourage copy cats, but also encourages folks to be more careful, and the later more than offsets the former.


I suspect that this fellow doesn't care about the crime rate at all, and just has some connections that are worried about tourist money of some kind or another.
 
2012-10-11 01:24:07 PM

Dr Jack Badofsky: dabbletech: Self-prophesying fulfillment?

More like self-fulfillment prophesy, methinks...


That is so 5 minutes ago.
 
2012-10-11 01:25:44 PM

mysticcat: Dear Penthouse Forum,

I'm just an average guy with a 10-inch schwantz, but I guess even the pool boy gets lucky sometimes........


Funny story my wife has insisted that we have a pool boy for the last couple of years. While we don't have a pool now she hopes to have one in the future so she wants to line up good help now
 
2012-10-11 01:25:54 PM

Sticky Hands: yeah, IDK about that... all we hear about on the news here in the US is violent crime, people think it's worse than it's ever been, yet the actual rates are down to those of the early 60s....

Perhaps there are two (or more) things at play here. Maybe it does encourage copy cats, but also encourages folks to be more careful, and the later more than offsets the former.


I suspect that this fellow doesn't care about the crime rate at all, and just has some connections that are worried about tourist money of some kind or another.


I blame fictional TV shows just as much as the news. People get an inflated sense of numbers (and a really skewed idea of how police, forensics, and the court system work). If as many people died each year in New York City as we show in movies and TV shows, we'd have depopulated the city by now.

/space aliens in Galaxy Quest probably wondering why oh why do we keep rebuilding New York, we seem to blow it up, set it on fire, and crush it in giant waves of cold every few months.
 
2012-10-11 01:26:31 PM
Jack Warner is a coont, and not even a funny one. Sometimes you get silly crazies in other countries who say silly stuff and it makes you go

i3.kym-cdn.com

But not with him, I wish I knew why some people can say silly stuff and get away with it and others can't.
 
2012-10-11 01:27:58 PM
If it's wrong to masturbate to violent crime statistics then I don't wanna be right.
 
2012-10-11 01:29:53 PM
Well, I know reading statistics makes me want to commit violence, but simply hearing them? Not so much.

Uh, what boss? Yeah, yeah, I'm analyzing the data right now.
 
2012-10-11 01:30:13 PM
I slept with a centerfold once. I got a paper cut.
 
2012-10-11 01:30:19 PM

Vectron: People have odd beliefs in 3rd world countries.


Um.... Tennessee's "Don't Say Gay" bill. They weren't the only ones trying to push that, Missouri as well.

States with "Abstinence Only" sexual education (which also happen to have the highest rates of teen pregnancy).

I could go on and on with similar situations here in the US.
 
2012-10-11 01:30:24 PM
Saying crime reports cause crime is a Toboggan run of a slippery slope.
 
2012-10-11 01:33:36 PM
Won't someone please show us what a centerfold looks like? Maybe with The Rock covering the naughty bits? Anyone, anyone.. Buehler... Buehler...
 
2012-10-11 01:39:40 PM

Fark In The Duck: Won't someone please show us what a centerfold looks like? Maybe with The Rock covering the naughty bits? Anyone, anyone.. Buehler... Buehler...


paulsprite.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-11 01:40:00 PM
In an odd overlap, reading Playboy makes you more likely to commit kitten murder.
 
2012-10-11 01:43:21 PM

unchellmatt: Vectron: People have odd beliefs in 3rd world countries.

Um.... Tennessee's "Don't Say Gay" bill. They weren't the only ones trying to push that, Missouri as well.



Good point. Those are more like "3rd World Counties"...
=Smidge=
 
2012-10-11 01:49:12 PM
Centerfold is spelled wrong.
 
2012-10-11 01:57:19 PM
Gladwell provided some evidence of this in his book tipping point. For example suicide clusters.
 
2012-10-11 02:02:07 PM

monoski: Fark In The Duck: Won't someone please show us what a centerfold looks like? Maybe with The Rock covering the naughty bits? Anyone, anyone.. Buehler... Buehler...

[paulsprite.files.wordpress.com image 440x660]


"That's way gay!"
i536.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-11 02:22:06 PM

Bullseyed: Centerfold is spelled wrong.


Yes, god damn it. I know that. 'e' and 'r' are right next to each other on the keyboard. I hit them in the wrong order, and missed the preview option.

/subby
 
2012-10-11 02:46:05 PM

Cheron: mysticcat: Dear Penthouse Forum,

I'm just an average guy with a 10-inch schwantz, but I guess even the pool boy gets lucky sometimes........

Funny story my wife has insisted that we have a pool boy for the last couple of years. While we don't have a pool now she hopes to have one in the future so she wants to line up good help now


I spend most of my time with a big-bodied fitness buff Dooya Evenlift type, and yet I'm still very curvy and out of shape. Guess what I mean when I say I'm "going to the gym".
 
2012-10-11 02:50:31 PM

WarszawaScream: Guess what I mean when I say I'm "going to the gym".


fixing the cable?
 
2012-10-11 03:10:38 PM

HenryFnord: Bullseyed: Centerfold is spelled wrong.

Yes, god damn it. I know that. 'e' and 'r' are right next to each other on the keyboard. I hit them in the wrong order, and missed the preview option.

/subby


Don't worry, at least it's spelled correctly outside of the USA. Feel free to add extra "u"s next time, we like those, too.
 
2012-10-11 03:23:53 PM

Meatybrain: It is a common mistake.

"Hearing violent crime statistics" sounds almost like "hearing a Security Minister make a goddam stupid idiot comment", which studies show definitely DOES raise the desire to kill.


ElLoco: Ok... wow. The guy actually said that.


There is some research which shows that if people hear that others 'commonly" do something they will be more likely to do the same. The one I remember is about a nature preserve where there are a lot of fossilised trees. A sign explaining to people that they shouldn't take pieces with them because it would deplete the forest actually increased the amount of fossilised tree that was taken as compared to no sign at all. So yeah, hearing that something is relatively widespread might actually increase the incidence rate.
 
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