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(Slate)   After further review, it now appears that the September job numbers were, in fact, wrong. Fark: Turns out there were even more people working than at first reported   (slate.com) divider line 157
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2012-10-11 10:05:58 AM
To be fair, that's how jobs reports have gone for the past two years.

NPR's reporting goes like this:

"Jobs numbers were up slightly BUT IT IS DOOM DOOM DOOOM AND YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IN POVERTY. Additionally, last months figures were more optimistic than reported."
 
2012-10-11 10:07:11 AM
Sure. If you believe that when an article claims something is "more likely" it is the same as them proving something, okay.

Look at the total number of people working, that is relevant metric.
 
2012-10-11 10:09:55 AM
Well. This good news must be fake, because it hurts the GOP narrative.
 
2012-10-11 10:15:58 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-11 10:18:17 AM
Republicans: We got elected to bring jobs! Jobs for all!
Facts: OK, now there are more jobs
Republicans: NOOOOOOO That can't be!!!
 
2012-10-11 10:19:45 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Sure. If you believe that when an article claims something is "more likely" it is the same as them proving something, okay.

Look at the total number of people working, that is relevant metric.


If only they supported this in the article like this statement supporting it in the article:

On average, the two rounds of revisions that occur in the two months after the initial number lead to a change of a bit over 50,000 jobs relative to the initial estimate.
 
2012-10-11 10:47:20 AM
Only someone who truly loves this nation could so vehemently pray for its citizens to suffer mightily in the name of "yay my team!"
 
2012-10-11 10:59:02 AM
This is good news, and if you don't think it's good news, you're a cock.
 
2012-10-11 11:00:16 AM
This is bad news...for Romn...no, who am I kidding? He'll spin it in such a bullshiat way that he had credit for it, and PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE HIM.
 
2012-10-11 11:03:21 AM
 
2012-10-11 11:08:17 AM
YOU LIE!

/just thought we'd get that out of the way
 
2012-10-11 12:20:03 PM
"Whoa, that pack of bald faced lies went over way better than expected. Pump it up a bit"
 
2012-10-11 12:20:31 PM
static4.businessinsider.com
"Curses! Foiled again! I'll get you next time, Obama!
 
2012-10-11 12:20:50 PM

randomjsa: "Whoa, that pack of bald faced lies went over way better than expected. Pump it up a bit"


Wrong thread. This is about the jobs report, not Romney's debate performance.
 
2012-10-11 12:20:57 PM

xanadian: This is bad news...for Romn...no, who am I kidding? He'll spin it in such a bullshiat way that he had credit for it, and PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE HIM.


Romney's perfection performance at last week's debate inspired nore americans to get up and get jobs.
 
2012-10-11 12:21:15 PM
The Bush Recovery continues despite black guy's opposition!!
 
2012-10-11 12:21:35 PM

BunkoSquad: Republicans: We got elected to bring jobs! Jobs for all!
Facts: OK, now there are more jobs
Republicans: NOOOOOOO That can't be!!!


I read this in Stephen Colbert's voice.
 
2012-10-11 12:22:25 PM
Americans are getting jobs because they know that President Romney won't tax their hard-earned money!
 
2012-10-11 12:22:39 PM
Comforting lies, please.
 
2012-10-11 12:23:55 PM
expect these numbers to rise by at least 2 cause i just reported 2 new hires to the USDL.
 
2012-10-11 12:24:04 PM
The Republicans' hammering the "bad" jobs numbers and calling the good ones false is ironic, considering they are so focused on improving the jobs market...because optimism fuels economic growth. By contnually being pessimistic and portraying the economy as bad, they are (potentially) scaring people into not spending their disposable money.

But of course, this all assumes that the GOP really does want to improve the economy and create jobs, as opposed to just wanting to get in power.
 
2012-10-11 12:24:47 PM
Also, it should be pointed out that these people with jobs are now getting paid off. Follow the money and you will find it goes all the way to the Federal Reserve... all the way to The Top!
 
2012-10-11 12:25:04 PM
I can't believe how hurtful this election is to my friends and family.
 
2012-10-11 12:26:48 PM
Thats old news, everybody this morning is claiming a conspiracy, data showed initial jobless claims at their lowest in more than four and a half years, the theory is some big Lib state did not report their numbers. heads are 'sploding as we speak
 
2012-10-11 12:27:02 PM

Isitoveryet: expect these numbers to rise by at least 2 cause i just reported 2 new hires to the USDL.


i just made a new hire

in my pants
 
2012-10-11 12:27:55 PM

NeverDrunk23: xanadian: This is bad news...for Romn...no, who am I kidding? He'll spin it in such a bullshiat way that he had credit for it, and PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE HIM.

Romney's perfection performance at last week's debate inspired nore americans to get up and get jobs.


Anticipation of a Republican controlled House, Senate, and White House is lubricating the economy faster than toe tapping in a men's room drops drawers.
 
2012-10-11 12:28:03 PM

what_now: Well. This good news must be fake, because it hurts the GOP narrative.


Heh... no shiat.

Did you hear Scott Brown say we were in recession for the last three years and it was Elizabeth Warren's fault last night?

It's like these people live in an alternative reality...
 
2012-10-11 12:28:31 PM
I applaud the numerous House Abortion Bills for making this happen.
 
2012-10-11 12:29:00 PM

randomjsa: "Whoa, that pack of bald faced lies went over way better than expected. Pump it up a bitI'm a biatch"

 
2012-10-11 12:29:08 PM

impaler: Jobless claims fall to lowest in four and a half years


Came to post this.
 
2012-10-11 12:29:43 PM
I got a slightly irrelevant question, Mitt claims there are 23 million people unemployed. And he claim he will create 12m new job. So, he is basically saying he does not care about 11m unemployed people. How come that has not become an issue?
 
2012-10-11 12:29:43 PM
I for one am just going to trust Jack's (Welch) Complete Lack of Evidence.
 
2012-10-11 12:30:07 PM
The conspiracy thickens.
 
2012-10-11 12:30:09 PM
weknowmemes.com

Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
2012-10-11 12:30:10 PM

Trivia Jockey: But of course, this all assumes that the GOP really does want to improve the economy and create jobs, as opposed to just wanting to get in power.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Seriously, for the past 2-3 years they've been so godverdamnt transparent with their desire to see everything fail, at this point it's just become cliched to type it out.
 
2012-10-11 12:30:14 PM

Empty Matchbook: The Bush Recovery continues despite black guy's opposition!!


There you go!
 
2012-10-11 12:30:31 PM
OK, so who's been hiring? Are they paying "livable wages"? These are questions that nobody can seem to answer.
 
2012-10-11 12:30:34 PM
Yes, I really trust your unsourced statisticals.
 
2012-10-11 12:30:40 PM

xanadian: This is bad news...for Romn...no, who am I kidding? He'll spin it in such a bullshiat way that he had credit for it, and PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE HIM.


Look, if you're so partisan that you won't give any credit to Romney, even after he got bin Laden, then you've lost all touch with reality.
 
2012-10-11 12:30:59 PM

FrailChild: impaler: Jobless claims fall to lowest in four and a half years

"The number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment benefits fell sharply last week to the lowest level in more than four and a half years"

People know they're not working and blowing sunshine up their ass with massaged statistics is not going to change what people do in November.

[chart.apis.google.com image 594x200] 

Notice the trend since the Republican congress got elected in 2010? :) Also notice how well unemployment correlates with Republican controlled congress historically? More and more people are waking up...

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This! The 47% who just wants to suck off of the full, luscious teats of the 53% are avoiding work for as long as they can, but as they suckle on our delicious milk of money they know that they can only hold on so long before real leadership returns, and they must return to work.
 
2012-10-11 12:31:03 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Sure. If you believe that when an article claims something is "more likely" it is the same as them proving something, okay.

Look at the total number of people working, that is relevant metric.



So, using this relevant metric, please explain the impact of the Bush Era tax cuts and Trickle Down economics in general.
 
2012-10-11 12:31:08 PM

randomjsa: "Whoa, that pack of bald faced lies went over way better than expected. Pump it up a bit"


You referring to Jack or your usual posts in every thread?

I would say you're overestimating in either case.
 
2012-10-11 12:31:43 PM
Well I guess the Republican narrative that the unemployment rate fell because "people gave up looking for jobs" is true. That is usually what happens when a person finds a job.
 
2012-10-11 12:32:04 PM

keylock71: Did you hear Scott Brown say we were in recession for the last three years and it was Elizabeth Warren's fault last night?


I actually saw that ballgargling shiatlord's commercial about the asbestos case last night. farking disgusting.
 
2012-10-11 12:32:34 PM

Smeggy Smurf: OK, so who's been hiring? Are they paying "livable wages"? These are questions that nobody can seem to answer.


A) Fact checkers. B) Yes. C) I just answered it.

You seem concerned.
 
2012-10-11 12:32:35 PM

mayIFark: I got a slightly irrelevant question, Mitt claims there are 23 million people unemployed. And he claim he will create 12m new job. So, he is basically saying he does not care about 11m unemployed people. How come that has not become an issue?


What he doesn't say is he'll stop conflating U6 with U3 and magically claim that he created 12 million new jobs.

Kinda like what Fox did the other week, but in reverse.

m.static.newsvine.com
 
2012-10-11 12:32:40 PM
I personally don't know anybody that is out of work right now. In 2009 and 2010 I knew of a few here and there. Now it seems like everybody that ACTUALLY wants a job has one. I hear employers constantly complaining about not being able to find qualified help. For that matter I know at least 5 Baby Boomers who are purposefully in "early retirement" collecting unemployment. One guy that I worked with has been in "early retirement" for 3 years now. He's 64. I wonder how much of this crap is going on?
 
2012-10-11 12:32:46 PM

heavymetal: Well I guess the Republican narrative that the unemployment rate fell because "people gave up looking for jobs" is true. That is usually what happens when a person finds a job.


win
 
2012-10-11 12:33:12 PM
randomjsa
"Whoa, that pack of bald faced lies went over way better than expected. Pump it up a bit"


I know you're a trolling heap of Republican shiat, but your quote highlights an interesting point:

Republicans were voted into the House/Senate in 2010 based on their promises of more jobs. Now that the American employment landscape has improved, Republicans could easily (though, as could be expected, inaccurately) take credit for the jobs boost.

But no.

Republicans instead cry that the numbers are wrong, that it's a conspiracy to bolster Obama. You morons had an opportunity at a crucial point in the election season to gain some much-needed approval. But it's more important for Republicans to make Obama look bad, than to make yourselves look good.

Your party is no longer defined by your own ideas. It is now merely defined as opposition to everything left/lib/Dem.

The hilarious part is that it is beyond the intellectual capacity of most Republicans how you've allowed the American Left to control and define your identity. If Obama were to say "Democrats are pro-breathing", you people would strangle yourselves by morning; that he doesn't do that is extremely generous of him, and you mouth-breathers owe him an enormous debt of gratitude for it.
 
2012-10-11 12:33:47 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Sure. If you believe that when an article claims something is "more likely" it is the same as them proving something, okay.

Look at the total number of people working, that is relevant metric.


I know it's crazy that with unemployment going down for the last 4 years that it would just happen to continue this trend. Shenanigans i say, shenanigans.
 
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