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(The Daily Beast)   "Sonny, back in grandpa's day, our computers sat on our desks and we liked them that way." "Wow, grandpa, you really HAVE seen lots of changes in your lifetime"   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 65
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2012-10-11 09:58:03 PM

MilesTeg:
I think we've reached a point where the software can't push the limits of the hardware anymore.


Depends on the software, really. Stuff like browsing the internet, sending e-mail, and your basic office-type stuff hasn't been pushing the envelope for awhile now. Games still push the limits, but not as much as they used to since most games are developed for multiple platforms and the slow development cycle for consoles has held most developers back from the cutting edge. And of course your rendering and video editing/encoding software still craves some power.

But yeah, it's certainly not like it used to be, when you absolutely had to upgrade every few years or doing even basic things would become unbearably slow, if not impossible.
 
2012-10-11 10:08:27 PM

qsblues: stuhayes2010: Who uses a (home) PC for anythign other than media storage and a place to back up your smart phone? I can't remember the last time I surfed the net at home or did anyting constructive on my home PC.

Some people have home studios and/or digital video workstations that wouldn't work with a laptop/smartphone/ipad. If they can fit 16 cores of CPU's into a laptop with dual 24" screens, 4 TB of drive space, 5 USB ports, two firewire ports, dual ethernet and 32 GB of memory, I'm all in.


I try to sit on a price/performance curve point and I`m waiting for the prices to drop before I upgrade from I7 3.8ghz 24Gb ram 5TB of drive and a couple of SSDs.

Why, yes I do video, what made you think that?

/would love dual xeon, 128GB ram and about 2TB of SSD RAID...
 
2012-10-11 10:48:02 PM

MilesTeg: I think we've reached a point where the software can't push the limits of the hardware anymore.

I am still more comfortable at a desk with full sized free keyboard and mouse, and large monitor.

/no onion yet


I think we've reached the point where programmers can't be bothered.... this should change

Agree with the second point. And Desktops are so much faster, and just better in every way.

I want new games to come out to really push the boundaries of what my PC can do... so far there aren't any. It disappoints me.

I want a
 
2012-10-11 10:50:24 PM
Oops!
I also wanted to add I'm typing on my desktop right now, as I usually do. Or sometimes my laptop. It varies.
 
2012-10-12 01:12:20 AM
Fans of PCs are far and few between. The former tech giant is heading into a tailspin as consumers snap up tablets and buy less PCs amid sluggish economic conditions.

PC is not a brand or company name. Your article makes no sense.
 
2012-10-12 01:22:05 AM
when i was in HS there was no PC. the computer took up the entire floor of an annex building and it used large punched cards and back up tape drives. our faculty was very proud that we had an IBM, and it did grades and attendance for a crapload of schools in other towns.
 
2012-10-12 01:34:47 AM

farkeruk: the_sidewinder: 1.- Actual videogames
2.- Responding trolls
3.- Programming
4.- Design/CAD programs
5.- Scientific research
6.- VMs (for various reasons, such as software deployment testing)
7.- Because I want something that isn't redundant after 2 years
8.- Because Flash based porn
9....

 
2012-10-12 06:16:15 AM

HotWingAgenda: I hope I'm not in before someone points out that PC stands for "personal computer", of which Apple is just one of many manufacturers.


Well, sure. That's what 'PC' meant, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the dark ages.

These days, however, it is short for IBC-PC Clone, as the IBM machines became the effective standard of hardware for everyone that wasn't Apple. If you look at older software, it'll say IBM-PC or IBMPC Clone.

Twas eventually dropped to just PC, since there were only two types on the market: IBM PC Clones, and Apple products

/and all produce is organic, but you know exactly what it means when some produce has that label.
 
2012-10-12 08:10:36 AM

bhcompy: farkeruk: the_sidewinder: 1.- Actual videogames
2.- Responding trolls
3.- Programming
4.- Design/CAD programs
5.- Scientific research
6.- VMs (for various reasons, such as software deployment testing)
7.- Because I want something that isn't redundant after 2 years
8.- Because Flash based porn
9....Because a lot of public domain, safe for work videos are in different formats, some of which won't play on tablets
10. Because I need BitTorrent (to download Linux distros)
11. Because I need to use usenet for the entirely legal purpose of discussing locomotives with people and need a client for it.
12. Because if you can find a legal site offering movies, the absolutely certain way that you can see it is on a PC
13.

 
2012-10-12 08:38:58 AM
"Microsoft is unveiling Windows 8 along with fancy new gadgets later this month, which they hope will revive struggling sales"

Dammit, now I have to clean beer off my monitor
 
2012-10-12 08:59:02 AM

farkeruk: bhcompy: farkeruk: the_sidewinder: 1.- Actual videogames
2.- Responding trolls
3.- Programming
4.- Design/CAD programs
5.- Scientific research
6.- VMs (for various reasons, such as software deployment testing)
7.- Because I want something that isn't redundant after 2 years
8.- Because Flash based porn
9....Because a lot of public domain, safe for work videos are in different formats, some of which won't play on tablets
10. Because I need BitTorrent (to download Linux distros)
11. Because I need to use usenet for the entirely legal purpose of discussing locomotives with people and need a client for it.
12. Because if you can find a legal site offering movies, the absolutely certain way that you can see it is on a PC
13. Making video which still takes 4 hours to render 30 seconds of complex footage
14.

 
2012-10-12 11:15:24 AM
BECAUSE CONSOLE GAMING SUCKS THE SYPHLITIC DONKEY'S PEENER AND I NEED MY MOUSE AND KEYBOARD
 
2012-10-12 03:59:42 PM

Night Night Cream Puff: FTFA: "Fans of PCs are far and few between. The former tech giant is heading into a tailspin as consumers snap up tablets and buy less PCs amid sluggish economic conditions."

Hey guys, did you hear? There's this new tech giant out there called PCs!


Pretty much my thoughts on reading the article. It was written by someone who clearly has no idea what they are talking about.
 
2012-10-13 08:47:00 AM

Nexzus: As for the article, yeah the consumer PC market is pretty much dying. Most consumers don't need full desktops, or even laptops. Corporate and government markets aren't going anywhere though. Our medium government org replaces 400 of our 1600 Dells each year, and I know we're small potatoes.


Not dying, but downsizing appropriately.

And Dell will be fine, their server/blade product line will keep the company rolling for a long time.

But, just like storage has been revolutionized in my lifetime, I fully expect laptop/portable/tablet power to catch up with desktop capabilities fairly soon.

Real life anecdote...I used to be a field service dude. Did factory authorized service on Fujitsu Disk Drives, back in the 80s. These drives 5lb platters, sounded like jet engines, with supermagnets that controlled the read-write heads that came with a warning to remove your credit cards from the general proximity and they were the size of a small desk and weighed about 400lbs. All for 300MB of storage that would be shared amongst an entire college department. You can tell when they'd power this thing up by watching the electric meter spin....

Today, I walk around with 2000 times that much storage in my pocket. That uses virtually no electricity unless I'm reading or writing to it.

I couldn't find exact pics, but it kinda looked like this: upload.wikimedia.org

ps...Here's the Computer I cut my teeth on back in 1980: www.friedmanarchives.com

It really has been revolutionary. In my own professional lifetime.
 
2012-10-13 05:07:27 PM

Tom_Slick: MilesTeg: I am still more comfortable at a desk with full sized free keyboard and mouse, and large monitor.

Absolutely, I have 2 23 inch monitors and I am much more productive than the old days, I couldn't imagine doing any heavy work on just a laptop it would drive me nuts.


I develop software at work on a laptop - plugged into a docking station.

The docking station provides power to the laptop, several USB ports (so I have a proper keyboard and mouse), a DVI port and VGA port (so I have dual 27 inch monitors), The laptop itself has a dual core CPU and 500GB hard drive. I bought a similar docking station off eBay for $17 to use at home.

So it really has the portability advantages of a laptop with the monitor, keyboard, mouse advantages of a desktop,

I think the not too distant future will see similar docking stations for tablets - and the tablets will be more powerful as well.
 
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