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2012-10-11 08:20:10 AM  
Meh, even Okla rednecks know how to make meth, it's not like a national secret.
 
2012-10-11 08:51:10 AM  
It is amazing that the same doormat from Malcolm in the Middle is such a badass now.
 
2012-10-11 08:52:31 AM  

basemetal: Meh, even Okla rednecks know how to make meth, it's not like a national secret.


They know how to make it badly. By and large their lab technique could use some work. It tends to be...irregular...at best.

I have a cousin in TN who has blown up no fewer than 3 trailers with meth labs gone wrong. And he's careful and doesn't use his own product. It's tricky work.

He also accidentally killed his dog with the fumes. It's a strangely frightening thing to watch a man that hard (you do NOT want to cross him...he's like the hard-ass uncle in Winter's Bone) break down and cry like a little girl. It makes you want to be someplace else. Fast. You know, just in case he starts looking for someone to take it out on.
 
2012-10-11 09:06:03 AM  

whistleridge: They know how to make it badly. By and large their lab technique could use some work. It tends to be...irregular...at best.


I read this in Heisenberg's voice.

/love Br Ba
 
2012-10-11 09:19:28 AM  
Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.
 
2012-10-11 09:23:37 AM  

SlothB77: It is amazing that the same doormat from Malcolm in the Middle is such a badass now.


Hey, he was a pretty menacing fed on X-Files too. That's one of the reasons why he got this job, actually. The showrunner, Vince Gilligan, had directed that episode and worked well with Cranston. Then years later he was channel surfing, came across Malcolm in the Middle and found he didn't realize that he could pull off funny too (guessing he didn't watch Seinfeld). So when he was working on Breaking Bad Cranston was on a very very short list of actors he had in mind because he needed someone to pull off menacing and manically funny too. I think you need a degree of no shame to play Walter White and Malcolm's dad had absolutely none.
 
2012-10-11 09:25:31 AM  

whistleridge: basemetal: Meh, even Okla rednecks know how to make meth, it's not like a national secret.

They know how to make it badly. By and large their lab technique could use some work. It tends to be...irregular...at best.

I have a cousin in TN who has blown up no fewer than 3 trailers with meth labs gone wrong. And he's careful and doesn't use his own product. It's tricky work.

He also accidentally killed his dog with the fumes. It's a strangely frightening thing to watch a man that hard (you do NOT want to cross him...he's like the hard-ass uncle in Winter's Bone) break down and cry like a little girl. It makes you want to be someplace else. Fast. You know, just in case he starts looking for someone to take it out on.


Well, yeah. It's not like quality control is that important, but figuring the life expectancy and overall health effects of long term meth use, it's not like it's the adulterants that are going to kill them.
 
2012-10-11 09:26:37 AM  

Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.


For basic cable, that's gonna be tough to top. It was jaw droppingly fantastic. The Walking Dead had some good death scenes too, but everyone is expected to die horribly in zombie flicks.
 
2012-10-11 09:27:49 AM  
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I think Bryan found his guinea pigs for his first batch
 
2012-10-11 09:30:22 AM  

Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.


Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.
 
2012-10-11 09:30:56 AM  

basemetal: Well, yeah. It's not like quality control is that important, but figuring the life expectancy and overall health effects of long term meth use, it's not like it's the adulterants that are going to kill them.


Only for the users. For those who are in it for the money - the guys that have as much contempt for the users as you do - it's actually important to make sure the adulterants aren't too strong, or they could kill themselves.

But yeah, I doubt there's a single meth maker on the planet who is concerned about the health effects of his/her product on the end user. Even on its best day, it's nasty, nasty stuff. Almost as bad as sniffing gasoline.
 
2012-10-11 09:32:37 AM  

Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.


Gus' pride killed him. The same thing that is going to be Walt's undoing.
 
2012-10-11 09:34:18 AM  

Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.


I agree 100% great character played by an awesome actor. He is currently on Revolution and is by far the best part of that show.
 
2012-10-11 09:39:51 AM  

Gunderson: Gus' pride killed him. The same thing that is going to be Walt's undoing.


Well they did make a lot of parallels between the two of them last season. I don't think the show could possibly end well for Walt.
 
2012-10-11 09:41:18 AM  

Obiwontaun: Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.

I agree 100% great character played by an awesome actor. He is currently on Revolution and is by far the best part of that show.


That's not saying much. Revolution sucks, bad.
 
2012-10-11 09:44:04 AM  

NASAM: Obiwontaun: Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.

I agree 100% great character played by an awesome actor. He is currently on Revolution and is by far the best part of that show.

That's not saying much. Revolution sucks, bad.


Yeah. Gus is pretty much the only reason I gave the show a chance. It does suck but it seems to be doing well in the ratings so it may be around for a while.
 
2012-10-11 09:44:15 AM  

NASAM: Obiwontaun: Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.

I agree 100% great character played by an awesome actor. He is currently on Revolution and is by far the best part of that show.

That's not saying much. Revolution sucks, bad.


Eh, it's not great but it has it's moments.
 
2012-10-11 09:46:14 AM  
method actor.
 
2012-10-11 09:50:57 AM  

calbert: method actor.


more like methed actor
 
2012-10-11 09:55:04 AM  

Obiwontaun: Eh, it's not great but it has it's moments.


One cliche after another.
 
2012-10-11 09:55:13 AM  
What's the big-ass gun for?
 
2012-10-11 09:57:35 AM  

modesto: What's the big-ass gun for?


Shooting people.
 
2012-10-11 09:57:57 AM  

modesto: What's the big-ass gun for?


Anal.
 
2012-10-11 09:58:27 AM  

Crudbucket: modesto: What's the big-ass gun for?

Shooting people.


Ahh. But whom? And why?
 
2012-10-11 09:59:32 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: modesto: What's the big-ass gun for?

Anal.


I think that's the big ass-gun.

/myhobby.jpg etc
 
2012-10-11 09:59:48 AM  
eh big deal, I was taught how to make meth in college, during a class. Of course one of the possible career directions for us was to be cleaning up meth labs. Kind of important to know the process if you're going to be coming into a place that has shock sensitive chemical buildup all over everything.
 
2012-10-11 10:01:38 AM  

NASAM: Obiwontaun: Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.

I agree 100% great character played by an awesome actor. He is currently on Revolution and is by far the best part of that show.

That's not saying much. Revolution sucks, bad.


I am watching it but it is lacking something. It feels like it isn't completely thought out. Hopefully they can outline the show better in the future and concentrate on good story arcs. Also needs more sub plot.
 
2012-10-11 10:03:09 AM  

qsblues: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

For basic cable, that's gonna be tough to top. It was jaw droppingly fantastic. The Walking Dead had some good death scenes too, but everyone is expected to die horribly in zombie flicks.


Still love the triple-tap at the school.

But AMC was perfect in hyping Gus' death in the promos. Brought us in.
 
2012-10-11 10:05:58 AM  
I think it is definitely a show that would be best served as a one season show.
 
2012-10-11 10:06:14 AM  

Gunderson: Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.

Gus' pride killed him. The same thing that is going to be Walt's undoing.


POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!!!!


I have three theories on how the show ends.

1) Hank brings walter down. All along, hank was the good guy and walter was the bad guy. think about every movie you've ever seen and think about Hanks's journey...it parallels that of the "good guy"...While Walter parallels that of the bad guy. It's be a fitting end...Hank doing what his superios couldn't do with Gus.

2) Jessie kills walter. He figures out about the poisoning of the kid, killing mike, etc....Jessie just shows up, points a gun a walter and shoots him...just like he did with gale.

3) Walter uses Mike's "go bag" or Saul's "get a new life guy"...and disappears.

3a) Possibily after killing everyone/anyone who could identify him...jessie, lydia, todd, saul, the body gaurd, the secretary, skylar, hank, marie, the tow truck guy, the scrap yard guy (walter junior?) (he keeps the baby???)....If it's truly the last episode....why not. end on a giant, "WTF WALTER!!!!"
 
2012-10-11 10:10:29 AM  

KFBR392: Gunderson: Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!!!!


I have three theories on how the show ends.

1) Hank brings walter down. All along, hank was the good guy and walter was the bad guy. think about every movie you've ever seen and think about Hanks's journey...it parallels that of the "good guy"...While Walter parallels that of the bad guy. It's be a fitting end...Hank doing what his superios couldn't do with Gus.

2) Jessie kills walter. He figures out about the poisoning of the kid, killing mike, etc....Jessie just shows up, points a gun a walter and shoots him...just like he did with gale.

3) Walter uses Mike's "go bag" or Saul's "get a new life guy"...and disappears.

3a) Possibily after killing everyone/anyone who could identify him...jessie, lydia, todd, saul, the body gaurd, the secretary, skylar, hank, marie, the tow truck guy, the scrap yard guy (walter junior?) (he keeps the baby???)....If it's truly the last episode....why not. end on a giant, "WTF WALTER!!!!"


I think the flash-forward that opens this season rules out 1-3. Walt has a new fake identity, look, and is preparing for some kind of major showdown. I honestly have no idea, which is fun.
 
2012-10-11 10:12:09 AM  

KFBR392: Gunderson: Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

Gus's death was the most gruesome and awesome death I have ever seen on TV.

Yet so appropriate - a man in control could only meet such a violent end with dignity.

I sincerely hope Giancarlo Esposito gets more work he deserves it.

Gus' pride killed him. The same thing that is going to be Walt's undoing.

POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!!!!


I have three theories on how the show ends.

1) Hank brings walter down. All along, hank was the good guy and walter was the bad guy. think about every movie you've ever seen and think about Hanks's journey...it parallels that of the "good guy"...While Walter parallels that of the bad guy. It's be a fitting end...Hank doing what his superios couldn't do with Gus.

2) Jessie kills walter. He figures out about the poisoning of the kid, killing mike, etc....Jessie just shows up, points a gun a walter and shoots him...just like he did with gale.

3) Walter uses Mike's "go bag" or Saul's "get a new life guy"...and disappears.

3a) Possibily after killing everyone/anyone who could identify him...jessie, lydia, todd, saul, the body gaurd, the secretary, skylar, hank, marie, the tow truck guy, the scrap yard guy (walter junior?) (he keeps the baby???)....If it's truly the last episode....why not. end on a giant, "WTF WALTER!!!!"


i think walter has to die.

his character has changed too much, hes become the monster he used to fight, and now he will be toppled.

hank is an interesting plot line at this point. we know he knows everything now. the question is, what will he do about it? will he say F the DEA and go in with him? will he try to take him down? will walt kill him? i somehow dont see him killing walt; he'll realize over the course of the show i think how much walt's done for him, will have a clash of conscience killing the guy who rehabilitated him and perhaps in his mind at least save dhim from the mexican mafia guys...

if anyone kills walt itll be an "et tu brute" kinda moment and either be skylar or jessie.
 
2012-10-11 10:12:45 AM  
3b) The final shot is of him closing his eyes as the cancer takes over with the bodies of Skyler and Walt Jr. lying nearby.
 
2012-10-11 10:17:33 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: 3b) The final shot is of him closing his eyes as the cancer takes over with the bodies of Skyler and Walt Jr. lying nearby.


nice mental image, but no way. itll end in violence.
 
2012-10-11 10:19:28 AM  
With regards to the rest of the show, I'm going to say that someone is going to grab all the cash in the storage locker.

It will either be the DEA, after Hank puts a tail on Skylar and finds it, with a big shiat-eating grin

or

Todd will overhear Walt boasting about it, and grab it with his uncles 'friends' and disappear. Which means Walt will need to beg Jesse to cook for him again
 
2012-10-11 10:32:54 AM  
Father_Jack:
hank is an interesting plot line at this point. we know he knows everything now. the question is, what will he do about it? will he say F the DEA and go in with him? will he try to take him down? will walt kill him? i somehow dont see him killing walt; he'll realize over the course of the show i think how much walt's done for him, will have a clash of conscience killing the guy who rehabilitated him and perhaps in his mind at least save dhim from the mexican mafia guys...

if anyone kills walt itll be an "et tu brute" kinda moment and eit ...

I don't think I considered Hank possibly joining up with Walt. That would be an interesting twist.

The fact the S5 intro showed him using a new identity makes me think he already used Saul's guy to disappear at least until the heat died down. I guess the real question, who is on his hit list? Hank? the DEA in general? Everyone?
 
2012-10-11 10:39:41 AM  
So, 50 or so Breaking Bad threads until next summer?
 
2012-10-11 11:04:22 AM  
Meh...probably ends with Walter turning states evidence, going into Federal witness protection with a new wife and 4 boys named Dewey, Reece, Francis and Malcolm.
 
2012-10-11 11:12:35 AM  

MysticSavage: Meh...probably ends with Walter turning states evidence, going into Federal witness protection with a new wife and 4 boys named Dewey, Reece, Francis and Malcolm.


Now thats funny.
 
2012-10-11 11:47:23 AM  

MysticSavage: Meh...probably ends with Walter turning states evidence, going into Federal witness protection with a new wife and 4 boys named Dewey, Reece, Francis and Malcolm.


Sequel.
 
2012-10-11 11:51:44 AM  

basemetal: whistleridge: basemetal: Meh, even Okla rednecks know how to make meth, it's not like a national secret.

They know how to make it badly. By and large their lab technique could use some work. It tends to be...irregular...at best.

I have a cousin in TN who has blown up no fewer than 3 trailers with meth labs gone wrong. And he's careful and doesn't use his own product. It's tricky work.

He also accidentally killed his dog with the fumes. It's a strangely frightening thing to watch a man that hard (you do NOT want to cross him...he's like the hard-ass uncle in Winter's Bone) break down and cry like a little girl. It makes you want to be someplace else. Fast. You know, just in case he starts looking for someone to take it out on.

Well, yeah. It's not like quality control is that important, but figuring the life expectancy and overall health effects of long term meth use, it's not like it's the adulterants that are going to kill them.


i think when I went to university, some chemistry students turned a chemistry lab into a meth lab. someone had access or something, so they'd go make meth all night long. went on for a couple years, i think, before getting busted.

no one ever seems to understand, if you want to be in the drug trade, the difficult part is not getting or selling the drugs. it's paying the right officials and not getting killed (or turned in) by the much more advanced (criminally) competition.
 
2012-10-11 12:04:57 PM  

pute kisses like a man: I think when I went to university, some chemistry students turned a chemistry lab into a meth lab. someone had access or something, so they'd go make meth all night long. went on for a couple years, i think, before getting busted.

no one ever seems to understand, if you want to be in the drug trade, the difficult part is not getting or selling the drugs. it's paying the right officials and not getting killed (or turned in) by the much more advanced (criminally) competition.


So far as I can tell, the principle qualifications for a successful drug career are:

1. To be completely, utterly, and ruthlessly without compunction when it comes to you vs the competition. There can be no laws, rules, lines, gentleman's agreements, general understandings, etc. You do what needs to be done, everytime. Instantly.

2. To be willing to accept at least some jail time, and to accept that while in jail, you will be utterly friendless and alone and that 'survival of the fittest' means being harder, faster, stronger, meaner, and more cunning than anyone else.

3. To be willing to forever live under threat of imminent death, torture, assault, etc.

In my experience, college stoners just don't have what it takes to hang. Kind of like the pot growers in Lock, Stock...; amateurs in a grimly professional business where the stakes are always life and death.
 
2012-10-11 12:11:20 PM  

whistleridge: pute kisses like a man: I think when I went to university, some chemistry students turned a chemistry lab into a meth lab. someone had access or something, so they'd go make meth all night long. went on for a couple years, i think, before getting busted.

no one ever seems to understand, if you want to be in the drug trade, the difficult part is not getting or selling the drugs. it's paying the right officials and not getting killed (or turned in) by the much more advanced (criminally) competition.

So far as I can tell, the principle qualifications for a successful drug career are:

1. To be completely, utterly, and ruthlessly without compunction when it comes to you vs the competition. There can be no laws, rules, lines, gentleman's agreements, general understandings, etc. You do what needs to be done, everytime. Instantly.

2. To be willing to accept at least some jail time, and to accept that while in jail, you will be utterly friendless and alone and that 'survival of the fittest' means being harder, faster, stronger, meaner, and more cunning than anyone else.

3. To be willing to forever live under threat of imminent death, torture, assault, etc.

In my experience, college stoners just don't have what it takes to hang. Kind of like the pot growers in Lock, Stock...; amateurs in a grimly professional business where the stakes are always life and death.


You described politicians and CEOs.
 
2012-10-11 12:14:27 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: You described politicians and CEOs.


One critical difference: drug dealers have to prepared at all times to immediately defend their actual person from a wide range of physical assaults. Politicians and CEO hire lawyers and bodyguards. It makes them a LOT softer.
 
2012-10-11 12:44:00 PM  

modesto: KFBR392: Gunderson: Expolaris: Obiwontaun: Spoilers

POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!!!!


I have three theories on how the show ends.

1) Hank brings walter down. All along, hank was the good guy and walter was the bad guy. think about every movie you've ever seen and think about Hanks's journey...it parallels that of the "good guy"...While Walter parallels that of the bad guy. It's be a fitting end...Hank doing what his superios couldn't do with Gus.

2) Jessie kills walter. He figures out about the poisoning of the kid, killing mike, etc....Jessie just shows up, points a gun a walter and shoots him...just like he did with gale.

3) Walter uses Mike's "go bag" or Saul's "get a new life guy"...and disappears.

3a) Possibily after killing everyone/anyone who could identify him...jessie, lydia, todd, saul, the body gaurd, the secretary, skylar, hank, marie, the tow truck guy, the scrap yard guy (walter junior?) (he keeps the baby???)....If it's truly the last episode....why not. end on a giant, "WTF WALTER!!!!"

I think the flash-forward that opens this season rules out 1-3. Walt has a new fake identity, look, and is preparing for some kind of major showdown. I honestly have no idea, which is fun.


It'll be a St. Elsewhere ending, All in the mind of a high functioning autistic who has just put down a meth pipe, and is looking into a snow globe....
 
2012-10-11 12:45:55 PM  

basemetal: Meh, even Okla rednecks know how to make meth, it's not like a national secret.


^

This,

Being from Oklahoma I've seen it done and being in the real estate appraiser business I take classes to see the signs for it being done in foreclosed homes.

/didn't need the class
//smell it before you even unlock your car doors.
///needed the class for CE
 
2012-10-11 01:24:22 PM  
I liked Vince Gilligan's comment on Colbert.
"Is there really blue meth out there?"
"There is now."
 
2012-10-11 01:41:50 PM  

SlothB77: It is amazing that the same doormat from Malcolm in the Middle is such a badass now.


Amazing? Uh, he's an actor. I think you just may be used to those action stars who play the same role in every movie
 
2012-10-11 03:47:48 PM  
Hank is afraid.

The penultimate battle may be between Walt and Hank, or Walt and Jesse, but at this point, Hank is going to sit on this revelation for a bit. Every time he's come inches from finding a break in the case, Heisenberg has covered his tracks with nothing but blood. The last case, killing all of Mike's guys, that had to show Hank that whoever Heisenberg is, he's one ruthless SOB.

So he comes to realize it's Walt, while taking a dump in Walt's house...what do you think Hank is thinking? This guy killed everyone around him to preserve his identity, so what do you think he'll do to Hank and his family?

I do believe Walt is gonna die in the end. But what I think happens is an unholy union of sorts with Skylar, Jesse and Hank. They force Walt to disappear, to leave them all alone. But as we see in the beginning of S5, Walt isn't having that. So he goes after Hank and Jesse, and it ends with Jesse and Walt shooting each other. They might even go cheesy and have the shootout take place in the high school classroom.

It's gonna be a long spring.
 
2012-10-11 04:16:46 PM  
Vince Gilligan doesn't even know how the series will end yet. Which is kind of scary to consider.

When Cranston asked him for direction regarding the season opening flash-forward, Gilligan told him "You've returned to rescue someone." When Cranston asked "Is the cancer back?" Gilligan replied "possibly."
 
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