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2012-10-11 03:34:27 AM
From left to right: Lance Hendricksen, Paul Newman, Nick Nolte and Lars Ulrich.
 
2012-10-11 07:35:36 AM
GODDAMIT YOU TWO, MAKE UP YOUR FREAKIN' MINDS!! YOU'RE LETTING ALL THE COLD AIR IN

grumble grumble kids grumble...
 
2012-10-11 07:56:55 AM
This would make more sense if we were travelers of both time and space.
 
2012-10-11 08:14:30 AM
Lead Balloon.
 
2012-10-11 08:36:04 AM
Peter Grant taught these guys how to successfully market a band. I for one take everything they are both saying about a reunion with a grain of salt. The possibility that the movie is just a test so they can feel out their audience after all this time is very real.
 
2012-10-11 08:43:25 AM
Aren't we about due for another re-mastering of their catalog with a $100 plus Box Set release just in time for Christmas?

I'm just afraid that these guys....you know....they don't have enough money. That's my big concern here.
 
2012-10-11 08:54:59 AM

Skarekrough: Aren't we about due for another re-mastering of their catalog with a $100 plus Box Set release just in time for Christmas?

I'm just afraid that these guys....you know....they don't have enough money. That's my big concern here.


Geez, in the other thread there was some guy biatching and moaning that LZ wasn't available on Guitar Queer-o, or some shiat. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, FARKERS!
 
2012-10-11 08:56:17 AM
I heard about this press conference yesterday on the radio, and Robert Plant said he's just not interested in the rigors of touring.
 
2012-10-11 09:14:07 AM
empres77

I heard about this press conference yesterday on the radio, and Robert Plant said he's just not interested in the rigors of touring

Yeah, he's 64. I wouldn't be up for a major rock tour at that age, either. It's a very demanding thing to do. Plus, he'd probably wipe out his voice pushing it to those limits on a nightly basis. At 64 your voice isn't the same as when you were 20.

I like Zeppelin a lot. But if they don't want to keep grinding out the same stuff they did 40 years ago, I get that. Let 'em do what they want.
 
2012-10-11 09:19:09 AM
Them Crooked Vultures is what Led Zeppelin WANTED to sound like, but couldn't quite do it. I loves me some Zep, but like Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes and all the rest of the big rock bands of the '70's, their time has come and gone. Nostalgia aside, it's good music, but there is much better stuff out there.
 
2012-10-11 09:22:24 AM
In Through the Out Door
 
2012-10-11 09:29:08 AM
I'm not going to get my hopes up for a reunion until John Bonham says he's in.
 
2012-10-11 09:45:51 AM

qsblues: Them Crooked Vultures is what Led Zeppelin WANTED to sound like, but couldn't quite do it.


That TCV album had like 2 and a half good songs and a bunch of meh ones.
 
2012-10-11 09:54:32 AM

empres77: Robert Plant said he's just not interested in the rigors of touring.


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Hundred-gigs-a-year-at-age-87 B.B. King is playing the world's tiniest Lucille for him.
 
2012-10-11 10:03:56 AM
Plant's voice is completely different now - if he tried to sing, say, Black Dog, it would sound really really bad.

/Also, on the last Page and Plant tour, Porl Thompson had to teach Page his own songs (and Porl still ended up playing most of the tricky bits)
 
2012-10-11 10:41:20 AM

browntimmy: qsblues: Them Crooked Vultures is what Led Zeppelin WANTED to sound like, but couldn't quite do it.

That TCV album had like 2 and a half good songs and a bunch of meh ones.


I really liked the album, and thought every track was good. I can't name a single Zep album where every song was pure gold. LZII was by far their best, IMO. Everything else was hit or miss, just like every other album that's ever been released by anybody, with the exception of Dark Side of the Moon, as far as rock bands go.

Miles Davis, OTOH, has always been a god amongst men.
 
2012-10-11 10:45:09 AM
too farking old
 
2012-10-11 10:46:50 AM
qsblues

"Them Crooked Vultures is what Led Zeppelin WANTED to sound like, but couldn't quite do it."

Did LZ actually say that?

"I loves me some Zep, but like Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes and all the rest of the big rock bands of the '70's, their time has come and gone."

A lot of people seem to think that music is like cottage cheese or something... After it's around for awhile, it spoils and has to be gotten rid of. That's kind of a weird notion for me to wrap my head around.

Gulper Eel

"Hundred-gigs-a-year-at-age-87 B.B. King is playing the world's tiniest Lucille for him."

B.B. isn't ripping his lungs apart singing "Whole Lotta Love" every night, either.
 
2012-10-11 10:49:17 AM
If Robert Plant hates touring so much, why is he on tour RIGHT NOW.

October 18, 2012 - Live Music Rocks HSBC Arena
October 20, 2012 - Expo Minas
October 22, 2012 - Espaco das Americas
October 25, 2012 - Nilson Nelson Arena
October 27, 2012 - Teatro Guaíra
October 29, 2012 - Gigantinho
November 1, 2012 - Luna Park
November 2, 2012 - Luna Park
November 4, 2012 - Orfeo Superdomo
November 7, 2012 - Arena Movistar
November 9, 2012 - Jockey Club
November 12, 2012 - National Auditorium

He wrapped-up the lengthy American dates in August

And yes, his voice has changed quite a bit. He just doesn't have the range for most LZ music.
 
2012-10-11 10:59:57 AM
Gulper Eel: empres77: Robert Plant said he's just not interested in the rigors of touring.

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Hundred-gigs-a-year-at-age-87 B.B. King is playing the world's tiniest Lucille for him.


This
 
2012-10-11 11:03:49 AM

GibbyTheMole: At 64 your voice isn't the same as when you were 20.


listen to him at knebworth in '79. he's already singing stuff down the octave - and he was just 31 then.
 
2012-10-11 11:30:51 AM

Gulper Eel: empres77: Robert Plant said he's just not interested in the rigors of touring.

[assets.rollingstone.com image 306x306]

Hundred-gigs-a-year-at-age-87 B.B. King is playing the world's tiniest Lucille for him.


And that's BB after he'd gone and slowed down! That dude was at least a gig a day not that long ago.

Oh and his band has always been JUST as impressive as his playing.
 
2012-10-11 11:51:44 AM
FlashHarry

listen to him at knebworth in '79. he's already singing stuff down the octave - and he was just 31 then.

True dat. I also expect having to be able to do it on a nightly basis probably also led to him modifying his technique a bit.
 
2012-10-11 12:25:17 PM
Led Zeppelin has been beaten into the frickin' ground. Every single one of their songs has been overplayed to death. They weren't that great to begin with.

Put it away and leave it there.
 
2012-10-11 12:26:33 PM

GibbyTheMole: A lot of people seem to think that music is like cottage cheese or something... After it's around for awhile, it spoils and has to be gotten rid of. That's kind of a weird notion for me to wrap my head around.


Don't get me wrong; if I'm in the mood for any of the above-mentioned bands, I'll fire it right up. But as far as ground breaking musicians, their time HAS come and gone. I'm hearing stuff today that just simply blows the doors off of Zep, comparatively. The playing is better, the production quality is better, the lyrics (if any) are better ... Page/Plant is akin to Lennon/McCartney ... fantastic songwriters whose material is still good today, but let's face it, all of it sounds dated, and it is.

And no, LZ did NOT say that TCV is what Zep wanted to be but couldn't hack it, John Paul Jones said that TCV is the kind of band that he always envisioned LZ developing into at some point, but it never quite happened.
 
2012-10-11 01:02:28 PM
qsblues

"as far as ground breaking musicians, their time HAS come and gone. I'm hearing stuff today that just simply blows the doors off of Zep, comparatively. The playing is better, the production quality is better, the lyrics (if any) are better ... Page/Plant is akin to Lennon/McCartney ... fantastic songwriters whose material is still good today, but let's face it, all of it sounds dated, and it is."

I can't argue with the fact that it sounds dated. Personally speaking, I don't mind dated music. If I like it or not is all that matters to me. I mean, Miles Davis' "Kind Of Blue" sounds dated. But it's fantastic. :-)

"And no, LZ did NOT say that TCV is what Zep wanted to be but couldn't hack it, John Paul Jones said that TCV is the kind of band that he always envisioned LZ developing into at some point, but it never quite happened."

Ahhh.. I see....
 
2012-10-11 04:20:53 PM

zappaisfrank: Led Zeppelin has been beaten into the frickin' ground. Every single one of their songs has been overplayed to death. They weren't that great to begin with.

Put it away and leave it there.


with a name like zappaisfrank would you say the same for Franks material as well ?

They were the greatest rock band to ever take the stage. You can talk about musicianship, song writing etc etc and make claims from everyone and anyone but NO ONE did it like Led Zeppelin. That is why their legacy survives today. They were essentially the best at what they did. Page - one of the best rock guitarists of all time (not the best per se but in the discussion), Plant - possibly the greatest front man in a rock band (definitely in the discussion), John Paul Jones (my personal favorite, the unsung hero of the band and again definitely in discussion for best rock bass player) and of course John Bonham (not much needs to be said about this monstrosity behind the kit) just try tapping your fingers to keep up with what he was doing, almost impossible

I get why they get some hate. every rock station plays their music every day and has been for the past 40 years. I have a hard time listening to the albums these days because i have heard them a million times. I try to stick with the live stuff these days, Harder to find and a lot of shiat but the good ones are INSANE.

I guess I would be interested to see them if they played some shows, I like the page/plant stuff they did a while back. Some that stuff was great
 
2012-10-12 03:26:15 PM

kindms: zappaisfrank: Led Zeppelin has been beaten into the frickin' ground. Every single one of their songs has been overplayed to death. They weren't that great to begin with.

Put it away and leave it there.

with a name like zappaisfrank would you say the same for Franks material as well ?

They were the greatest rock band to ever take the stage. You can talk about musicianship, song writing etc etc and make claims from everyone and anyone but NO ONE did it like Led Zeppelin. That is why their legacy survives today. They were essentially the best at what they did. Page - one of the best rock guitarists of all time (not the best per se but in the discussion), Plant - possibly the greatest front man in a rock band (definitely in the discussion), John Paul Jones (my personal favorite, the unsung hero of the band and again definitely in discussion for best rock bass player) and of course John Bonham (not much needs to be said about this monstrosity behind the kit) just try tapping your fingers to keep up with what he was doing, almost impossible

I get why they get some hate. every rock station plays their music every day and has been for the past 40 years. I have a hard time listening to the albums these days because i have heard them a million times. I try to stick with the live stuff these days, Harder to find and a lot of shiat but the good ones are INSANE.

I guess I would be interested to see them if they played some shows, I like the page/plant stuff they did a while back. Some that stuff was great


You read my mind. I go through cycles with music but Zeppelin has always been the connecting thread. They set the standard for what a great heavy rock band should be. Some will say Cream were actually the template, but they were never as heavy (and they didn't have Jimmy Page producing their albums).

The only thing upsetting to me about the current state of Zeppelin is that Page has been living in the past for a while now...all the remasters, box sets..the movie. I realize his best days are behind him but I always considered him a master in the studio above all else..so why not do something new i n the studio? Solo project? Some collaboration with John Paul Jones? The Firm always left me wanting. Midnight Moonlight was probably the best thing to come out of that project. Outrider was ok for its time. The stuff with Plant was good. Who knows though, maybe being frazzled from some legendary partying and being super-wealthy just does that to a person. Being 68 might have something to do with it as well...

Plant seems to be doing fine with what he does. I'm not a huge fan of 'adult contemporary', but it suits him. The last thing I really enjoyed of his was Mighty Rearranger. Them Crooked Vultures was an outstanding project for John Paul Jones, and his solo albums were great as well. I still think he was the best overall musician in the band. He was flawless live, other than the out of tune Melotron.
 
2012-10-15 12:42:43 AM

GibbyTheMole: FlashHarry

listen to him at knebworth in '79. he's already singing stuff down the octave - and he was just 31 then.

True dat. I also expect having to be able to do it on a nightly basis probably also led to him modifying his technique a bit.


Yeah, insanely high falsetto puts a lot of strain on the voice, and he uses that in so many songs that his throat would self-destruct if he did it every night. I have a copy of The Song Remains The Same, which shows their Madison Square Garden concert in 1973, and Plant doesn't go near some of the high notes... so unfortunately the songs didn't remain the same.
 
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