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(NFL)   To the surprise of some, Kevin Kolb doesn't want to die   (nfl.com) divider line 50
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2012-10-11 10:35:28 AM
No Beanie Wells. Ryan Williams out for the season.

The options are:

Kolb passes a lot
Balanced attack running Stephens-Howling and William Powell
 
2012-10-11 11:17:49 AM

SlothB77: No Beanie Wells. Ryan Williams out for the season.

The options are:

Kolb passes a lot
Balanced attack running Stephens-Howling and William Powell


Well it's not like they're going to have much of a choice in the upcoming weeks. They're facing a pretty brutal stretch of pass rushers.

Oct 21 ARI @ MIN
Oct 29 SF @ ARI
Nov 04 ARI @ GB

Wow. That's got to be the worst 3 game stretch that Kolb/Skelton will see all season. Luckily the rest of the schedule is probably much--

Nov 25 STL @ ARI
Dec 09 ARI @ SEA
Dec 23 CHI @ ARI
Dec 30 ARI @ SF

--nope. Not much better at all. Worse, actually. December could be much, much worse than October.
 
2012-10-11 12:18:02 PM
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Praying to Tebow that he doesn't die on the field.
 
2012-10-11 01:18:49 PM
As somebody who has to choose between starting him or Josh Freeman every week, I wish he would play as if his life depended on it.
 
2012-10-11 01:19:53 PM
He said he got sacked potato times last game. Thats pretty bad.
 
2012-10-11 01:21:13 PM
regardless of where the Redbirds draft, the most obvious needs will be OL and RB and QB. we've drafted very poorly at those positions over the past decade.

This is the team that passed on ADRIAN PETERSON to take Levi Brown at tackle.

cuz he's bad, bad, Levi Brown
Most overrated tckle in the NFL
softer than a stick of butter
blah blah blah blah blah balh.
 
2012-10-11 01:34:31 PM
What a wuss, Cutler - the player who most everyone called weak - took more licks and kept on ticking.
 
2012-10-11 01:35:16 PM
"You die, she dies, everybody dies."
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/hopefully not too obscure
 
2012-10-11 01:40:34 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: What a wuss, Cutler - the player who most everyone called weak - took more licks and kept on ticking.


Cutler is a lot of things, but I don't recall anyone questioning his toughness in the last few years.
 
2012-10-11 01:50:30 PM
As long as he gets me a lot of points next weekend because Matt Ryan's on his bye week, he can do whatever he wants

/heartless fantasy owner
//gotta catch em all
 
2012-10-11 02:05:31 PM
This week he is lined up against this tough line: Super Mario Williams (1st overall pick, highest paid defensive player EVER), Kyle Williams (Pro Bowl in 2010), Marcell Dareus (3rd overall pick last year), and Mark Anderson (10.5 sacks last year).

Oh wait they are all wearing Bill's uniforms? Oh yeah he so safe they likely won't even need to laundry Kolb's shirt.

/goddamitsomuch
 
2012-10-11 02:10:57 PM

rickythepenguin: regardless of where the Redbirds draft, the most obvious needs will be OL and RB and QB. we've drafted very poorly at those positions over the past decade.

This is the team that passed on ADRIAN PETERSON to take Levi Brown at tackle.

cuz he's bad, bad, Levi Brown
Most overrated tckle in the NFL
softer than a stick of butter
blah blah blah blah blah balh.


I now have that stuck in my head so I now wish you walk into a door and slightly hurt yourself. On a side note, I took the Cards to win in my pool, and they better not let me down for a second week in a row.
 
2012-10-11 02:11:17 PM
You're not fooling anyone, you know.
 
2012-10-11 02:14:36 PM

KidSock2004: As long as he gets me a lot of points next weekend because Matt Ryan's on his bye week, he can do whatever he wants

/heartless fantasy owner
//gotta catch em all


Replace Matt Ryan with Drew Brees and I'm in complete agreement
 
2012-10-11 02:24:41 PM

rickythepenguin: regardless of where the Redbirds draft, the most obvious needs will be OL and RB and QB. we've drafted very poorly at those positions over the past decade.

This is the team that passed on ADRIAN PETERSON to take Levi Brown at tackle.

cuz he's bad, bad, Levi Brown
Most overrated tckle in the NFL
softer than a stick of butter
blah blah blah blah blah balh.


OL is a major problems for a lot of teams like GB and DAL. Dallas hasn't had a good OL since mid 90s. However, even if you draft OL in top 5 and they do have an amazing career, it rarely starts off good in the first year. Dallas (and probably all the teams with OL problems) will have a few years till they can effectively run and block unless someone already on the team steps up or they get free agents that perform after signing a big, fat contract.
 
2012-10-11 02:34:21 PM

EatTheRich: This week he is lined up against this tough line: Super Mario Williams (1st overall pick, highest paid defensive player EVER), Kyle Williams (Pro Bowl in 2010), Marcell Dareus (3rd overall pick last year), and Mark Anderson (10.5 sacks last year).

Oh wait they are all wearing Bill's uniforms? Oh yeah he so safe they likely won't even need to laundry Kolb's shirt.

/goddamitsomuch


I believe Anderson is injured and unavailable for Sunday. And Williams has been... well, poor is a very polite way of saying it.
 
2012-10-11 02:34:41 PM
Cards need to sandbag the season now, get a top 5 pick and start flipping picks until they can draft 4 more Bobbie Massies in the 4th round.
 
2012-10-11 02:43:46 PM

neuroflare: Cards need to sandbag the season now, get a top 5 pick and start flipping picks until they can draft 4 more Bobbie Massies in the 4th round.


If they lose the next 4-5 games, then yes. They're still 4-1 and if that Thursday game had been a Sunday game, I think the Cards beat the Rams.
 
2012-10-11 02:44:10 PM
So what teams are considered to have good olines right now? Since passing is so important nowadays olines are under a hell of a lot of scrutiny.
 
2012-10-11 02:48:59 PM

desertgeek: EatTheRich: This week he is lined up against this tough line: Super Mario Williams (1st overall pick, highest paid defensive player EVER), Kyle Williams (Pro Bowl in 2010), Marcell Dareus (3rd overall pick last year), and Mark Anderson (10.5 sacks last year).

Oh wait they are all wearing Bill's uniforms? Oh yeah he so safe they likely won't even need to laundry Kolb's shirt.

/goddamitsomuch

I believe Anderson is injured and unavailable for Sunday. And Williams has been... well, poor is a very polite way of saying it.


^that right there folks is the last time in recorded history that someone uses Mario Williams and "poor" in the same sentence. $100 Million down the toilet, he is worth FOUR Rob Johnsons!
 
2012-10-11 02:49:22 PM

ddam: OL is a major problems for a lot of teams like GB and DAL



another problem for Arizona is that we'd normally have the TEs helping out to chip the edge rush. Well, thanks to a personal foul penalty on some Patriot crca Week 3 (the missed FG game), some Patriout knocked out our #1 TE and he, aisde from leaving that game, hasn't played since but should return.

so i floated the idea (not original, it has popped up in other leauges but never come to fruition) is that on a personal foul penalty, if a player is injured, the offender has to sit the same number of games. I forget if it was flagged for late hit or OOB but either way, our guy hasn't played due to a personal foul penalty.

which means one less guy to help the line, whether in pass pro or as an receiver.
 
2012-10-11 02:53:30 PM

Creoena: KidSock2004: As long as he gets me a lot of points next weekend because Matt Ryan's on his bye week, he can do whatever he wants

/heartless fantasy owner
//gotta catch em all

Replace Matt Ryan with Drew Brees and I'm in complete agreement


You and me both, Creoena.

So...I think I'm going to start Mendenhall tonight against TEN.

That leaves this dilemma...pick 2:

Gore vs NYG
Bradshaw vs SF
Ridley vs SEA

Tough.
 
2012-10-11 02:56:01 PM

ddam: rickythepenguin: ***snip***
OL is a major problems for a lot of teams like GB and DAL. Dallas hasn't had a good OL since mid 90s. However, even if you draft OL in top 5 and they do have an amazing career, it rarely starts off good in the first year. Dallas (and probably all the teams with OL problems) will have a few years till they can effectively run and block unless someone already on the team steps up or they get free agents that perform after signing a big, fat contract.


On top of that, you can have a situation like GB, where these guys have never played as a 5 man unit before. And the OL needs to be on the same page more than any group on the field.
 
2012-10-11 03:01:33 PM

El Brujo: So...I think I'm going to start Mendenhall tonight against TEN.

That leaves this dilemma...pick 2:

Gore vs NYG
Bradshaw vs SF
Ridley vs SEA

Tough.


What's your logic behind Mendenhall? Because srsly Gore is going to find holes in NYG and Bradshaw is worth it unless its not a PPR league. Either way I wouldn't start rashard.
 
2012-10-11 03:02:48 PM

roc6783: ddam: rickythepenguin: ***snip***
OL is a major problems for a lot of teams like GB and DAL. Dallas hasn't had a good OL since mid 90s. However, even if you draft OL in top 5 and they do have an amazing career, it rarely starts off good in the first year. Dallas (and probably all the teams with OL problems) will have a few years till they can effectively run and block unless someone already on the team steps up or they get free agents that perform after signing a big, fat contract.

On top of that, you can have a situation like GB, where these guys have never played as a 5 man unit before. And the OL needs to be on the same page more than any group on the field.


Same situation in Dallas too. It's easy to blame Romo (and I do so very often) but that O-line has been terrible these past few seasons and this year isn't any better. Too many seasons in a row look promising in spring but as camp ends and first month of regular season is over you can tell that Dallas isn't going anywhere just by looking at the injury list.

In the NFL (more than in any other league) it's the good team that remains healthiest of them all that wins it, not necessarly the best team.
 
2012-10-11 03:18:34 PM
Oh sweet. Second green of the tro... new account! Clearly there's an Arizona homer looking out for us poor souls.
 
2012-10-11 03:21:07 PM

rickythepenguin: ddam: OL is a major problems for a lot of teams like GB and DAL


another problem for Arizona is that we'd normally have the TEs helping out to chip the edge rush. Well, thanks to a personal foul penalty on some Patriot crca Week 3 (the missed FG game), some Patriout knocked out our #1 TE and he, aisde from leaving that game, hasn't played since but should return.

so i floated the idea (not original, it has popped up in other leauges but never come to fruition) is that on a personal foul penalty, if a player is injured, the offender has to sit the same number of games. I forget if it was flagged for late hit or OOB but either way, our guy hasn't played due to a personal foul penalty.

which means one less guy to help the line, whether in pass pro or as an receiver.


Should convert Floyd to a TE. Man can block something fierce!
 
2012-10-11 03:25:38 PM

thecpt: What's your logic behind Mendenhall? Because srsly Gore is going to find holes in NYG and Bradshaw is worth it unless its not a PPR league. Either way I wouldn't start rashard.


Probably "Tennessee defense sucks, SF and SEA (and NYG to a lesser extent) are stout."
 
2012-10-11 03:28:52 PM

El Brujo: Creoena: KidSock2004: As long as he gets me a lot of points next weekend because Matt Ryan's on his bye week, he can do whatever he wants

/heartless fantasy owner
//gotta catch em all

Replace Matt Ryan with Drew Brees and I'm in complete agreement

You and me both, Creoena.

So...I think I'm going to start Mendenhall tonight against TEN.

That leaves this dilemma...pick 2:

Gore vs NYG
Bradshaw vs SF
Ridley vs SEA

Tough.


Not that I know things, but Gore vs. NYG looks like the 2nd best matchup (after Richardson against CIN) - Giants are pretty bad against the run this year.

Bradshaw: Giants are a good running team, but SF is a great run stop team

New England is a great running team, and SEA is a great run defense : SEA is at home. I might leave this alone

PIT vs. Tennessee is the opposite: PIT can't run and TEN can't stop the run. I'd take this matchup, too, if only because PIT will pass all over TEN to a big early lead then pound it the rest of the way. Plus, you've been waiting 5 weeks to get some use out of Mendenhall
 
2012-10-11 03:42:03 PM

Nana's Vibrator: El Brujo: Creoena: KidSock2004: As long as he gets me a lot of points next weekend because Matt Ryan's on his bye week, he can do whatever he wants

/heartless fantasy owner
//gotta catch em all



Ha, the only reason I ducked in was to say I picked up Kolb off FA wire this week because he's got Buffalo this weekend. My QB, Phillip Rivers, has been lullinmg me to sleep with his exactly average season (ranked 16th quarterback in my league right now)
 
2012-10-11 03:45:18 PM

Jubeebee: DeathByGeekSquad: What a wuss, Cutler - the player who most everyone called weak - took more licks and kept on ticking.

Cutler is a lot of things, but I don't recall anyone questioning his toughness in the last few years.


I have you (and DeathByGeekSquad) favorited as "Bears fans", so I'm not sure if you're serious. You don't recall back in 2010 where 80% of athletes and ex-athletes with Twitter accounts called him out for sitting after getting injured?
 
2012-10-11 03:54:13 PM

skrame: You don't recall back in 2010 where 80% of athletes and ex-athletes with Twitter accounts called him out for sitting after getting injured?


Isn't that when Urlacher stated that nobody questioned his toughness? I'm a pretty big Cutler hater, but if your team backs you up, then your're probably not faking it.
 
2012-10-11 03:57:46 PM

skrame: I have you (and DeathByGeekSquad) favorited as "Bears fans", so I'm not sure if you're serious. You don't recall back in 2010 where 80% of athletes and ex-athletes with Twitter accounts called him out for sitting after getting injured?


I do remember that now, immediately after it happened a lot of people were calling him out. But IIRC, after it came out that he had a torn MCL, the focus started shifting toward him looking pouty, and people begrudgingly giving him respect for staying in while Martz did his best to get him killed.

But I may be remembering through orange colored glasses, and you are probably right.
 
2012-10-11 04:02:13 PM
Kolb will throw for a half mile and 7 scores on sunday vs. my Bills. After that though, he's probably worthless from a fantasy perspective.
 
2012-10-11 04:17:43 PM

thecpt: skrame: You don't recall back in 2010 where 80% of athletes and ex-athletes with Twitter accounts called him out for sitting after getting injured?

Isn't that when Urlacher stated that nobody questioned his toughness? I'm a pretty big Cutler hater, but if your team backs you up, then your're probably not faking it.


I will still call him Quitler though. It amuses me greatly.
 
2012-10-11 04:29:48 PM
I remember a lot of people talking sh*t about Cutler's toughness after that playoff game.

It was a sad day, the first time I had to start defending Cutler from stupid accusations. As someone would like to say, I did suggest that Cutler maybe didn't even have diabetes, he just used diabetes in order to incur sympathy after blowing a playoff position by losing several games to close out a season (then did it the next year when he supposedly had his diabetes under control).

So you know that when I'm making sh*t up like that and even I have to say you're being goddamn ridiculous with your criticism of him, you're probably being ridiculous.

/then again, I was more bummed that that took the attention off how god-awful he was prior to his injury. I would've been happier with him finishing the game the way he was playing.
 
2012-10-11 04:37:19 PM

thecpt: skrame: You don't recall back in 2010 where 80% of athletes and ex-athletes with Twitter accounts called him out for sitting after getting injured?

Isn't that when Urlacher stated that nobody questioned his toughness? I'm a pretty big Cutler hater, but if your team backs you up, then your're probably not faking it.


Yeah, the team (especially Urlacher) backed him up. However, I think that your team is almost always going to publicly back you up; they should be the last to make public statements about something like toughness.

Jubeebee: But IIRC, after it came out that he had a torn MCL, the focus started shifting toward him looking pouty, and people begrudgingly giving him respect for staying in while Martz did his best to get him killed.


No, you're right. The focus did move back to his emo attitude instead of him being weak. However, no one who called him out (like MJD) ever retracted their statements or apologized or anything.
 
2012-10-11 05:06:05 PM

skrame: thecpt: skrame: You don't recall back in 2010 where 80% of athletes and ex-athletes with Twitter accounts called him out for sitting after getting injured?

Isn't that when Urlacher stated that nobody questioned his toughness? I'm a pretty big Cutler hater, but if your team backs you up, then your're probably not faking it.

Yeah, the team (especially Urlacher) backed him up. However, I think that your team is almost always going to publicly back you up; they should be the last to make public statements about something like toughness.

***snip***


The only reason I would disagree with that is due to the interview where the Bears CB called him out about pushing Webb. Don't remember the comments verbatim, just know it created a shiatstorm.

Which, as a Packers fan, gave me glee.
 
2012-10-11 05:10:16 PM

rickythepenguin: ddam: OL is a major problems for a lot of teams like GB and DAL


another problem for Arizona is that we'd normally have the TEs helping out to chip the edge rush. Well, thanks to a personal foul penalty on some Patriot crca Week 3 (the missed FG game), some Patriout knocked out our #1 TE and he, aisde from leaving that game, hasn't played since but should return.

so i floated the idea (not original, it has popped up in other leauges but never come to fruition) is that on a personal foul penalty, if a player is injured, the offender has to sit the same number of games. I forget if it was flagged for late hit or OOB but either way, our guy hasn't played due to a personal foul penalty.

which means one less guy to help the line, whether in pass pro or as an receiver.


Dr. Z suggested the idea of a week off for every week your cheap shot cost a guy many times back before his stroke when he used to write for SI, and if you did something bad that caused a career ending injury then you ended two careers.

I'm a big Z fan but that wasn't his most practical idea.
 
2012-10-11 05:24:28 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: I'm a big Z fan but that wasn't his most practical idea.



Yeah, i know it will never happen but....dammit, it was a play that was flagged then and there for either OOB or late hit. adn our guy still hasn't played. he's missed 2.5 games, and all that the Pats had to deal with was a shiatty 15 yard penalty.

our entire offense has been affected since. that blows.
 
2012-10-11 06:06:49 PM

Jubeebee: DeathByGeekSquad: What a wuss, Cutler - the player who most everyone called weak - took more licks and kept on ticking.

Cutler is a lot of things, but I don't recall anyone questioning his toughness in the last few years.


I guess you missed MJD calling him a quitter after the NFC championship game a couple of years ago (after he wimped out and missed the last two games of the season himself).

Creoena: Replace Matt Ryan with Drew Brees and I'm in complete agreement


Stafford for me.

/I'm farked
 
2012-10-11 06:14:35 PM

thecpt: El Brujo: So...I think I'm going to start Mendenhall tonight against TEN.

That leaves this dilemma...pick 2:

Gore vs NYG
Bradshaw vs SF
Ridley vs SEA

Tough.

What's your logic behind Mendenhall? Because srsly Gore is going to find holes in NYG and Bradshaw is worth it unless its not a PPR league. Either way I wouldn't start rashard.


It is a PPR league.

Rashard because he's coming off a solid debut and it fresh. Will probably get all / vast majority of touches and mainly TEN is a bad run defense. They've been getting lit up. Mendehall should be a major factor in PIT's game tonight.

I'm inclined to play everyone but Ridley this week.
 
2012-10-11 06:16:55 PM

IAmRight: thecpt: What's your logic behind Mendenhall? Because srsly Gore is going to find holes in NYG and Bradshaw is worth it unless its not a PPR league. Either way I wouldn't start rashard.

Probably "Tennessee defense sucks, SF and SEA (and NYG to a lesser extent) are stout."


Yep.
 
2012-10-11 06:20:32 PM

Nana's Vibrator: El Brujo: Creoena: KidSock2004: As long as he gets me a lot of points next weekend because Matt Ryan's on his bye week, he can do whatever he wants

/heartless fantasy owner
//gotta catch em all

Replace Matt Ryan with Drew Brees and I'm in complete agreement

You and me both, Creoena.

So...I think I'm going to start Mendenhall tonight against TEN.

That leaves this dilemma...pick 2:

Gore vs NYG
Bradshaw vs SF
Ridley vs SEA

Tough.

Not that I know things, but Gore vs. NYG looks like the 2nd best matchup (after Richardson against CIN) - Giants are pretty bad against the run this year.

Bradshaw: Giants are a good running team, but SF is a great run stop team

New England is a great running team, and SEA is a great run defense : SEA is at home. I might leave this alone

PIT vs. Tennessee is the opposite: PIT can't run and TEN can't stop the run. I'd take this matchup, too, if only because PIT will pass all over TEN to a big early lead then pound it the rest of the way. Plus, you've been waiting 5 weeks to get some use out of Mendenhall


Yeah, I'm with you on the above...I think of all these guys Ridley would be likely so sit. He also might lose some touches to Boldin due to his 2 weeks of fumbles. Plus, although Bradshaw is risky against SF, I sure would look the fool to sit him after last week's performance.
 
2012-10-11 06:52:22 PM

El Brujo: Yeah, I'm with you on the above...I think of all these guys Ridley would be likely so sit. He also might lose some touches to Boldin due to his 2 weeks of fumbles. Plus, although Bradshaw is risky against SF, I sure would look the fool to sit him after last week's performance.


Vereen got some snaps last week, he's a guy that has had trouble staying healthy but has the most speed of any of the Patriot running backs, so there is a chance he could get more playing time as well.
 
2012-10-11 07:06:36 PM
In the absence of the NFL thread and in furtherance of my picks, I'll say with Steelers -4.5, that Tenn pulls an upset and covers at minimum.
 
2012-10-11 07:10:16 PM
Speaking of FF. I went trade crazy this week. Traded Gates & Turner for Graham & McFadden. Then, since RG3 is my qb and that's starting to make me nervous, I traded A Johnson & Fred Jackson for Luck & Garcon. Now I got
RG3
Morris
Richardson
bowe
AJ Green
O. Daniels
Rams kicker
Falcons D

LeShoure
Maclin
Graham
Powell
Luck
Garcon
 
2012-10-11 07:23:54 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: El Brujo: Yeah, I'm with you on the above...I think of all these guys Ridley would be likely so sit. He also might lose some touches to Boldin due to his 2 weeks of fumbles. Plus, although Bradshaw is risky against SF, I sure would look the fool to sit him after last week's performance.

Vereen got some snaps last week, he's a guy that has had trouble staying healthy but has the most speed of any of the Patriot running backs, so there is a chance he could get more playing time as well.


True.
 
2012-10-11 11:08:02 PM

Jubeebee: DeathByGeekSquad: What a wuss, Cutler - the player who most everyone called weak - took more licks and kept on ticking.

Cutler is a lot of things, but I don't recall anyone questioning his toughness in the last few years.


Uh, you don't pay attention to sports media, do you?
 
2012-10-14 03:25:43 AM

EatTheRich: This week he is lined up against this tough line: Super Mario Williams (1st overall pick, highest paid defensive player EVER), Kyle Williams (Pro Bowl in 2010), Marcell Dareus (3rd overall pick last year), and Mark Anderson (10.5 sacks last year).

Oh wait they are all wearing Bill's uniforms? Oh yeah he so safe they likely won't even need to laundry Kolb's shirt.

/goddamitsomuch


You forgot "Mario Williams, most overrated defensive player in the league"
 
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