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(Foreign Policy)   U.S. caves in discussions with impudent local ally, abandons long-cherished nonproliferation principles for short-term gain. No, not that local ally   (foreignpolicy.com) divider line 16
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2012-10-11 11:48:10 AM
So, Fallout 3, Gangnam style?
 
2012-10-11 11:48:13 AM
Screw nonproliferation. When we do it we are consistently the only one doing it...
 
2012-10-11 11:52:26 AM
More proof that Obama is astoundingly weak on foreign policy and lacks the courage to face foreign aggression. Or something.
 
2012-10-11 11:55:48 AM
Sarcastometer broken
 
2012-10-11 11:58:40 AM
A frantic race to build up arms is not in the interest of the human race. Negotiating a reduction or limit to arms is something I absolutely approve of and would like to see more US diplomacy with this goal in mind. I would be even more supportive if we led by example and significantly reduced our own armaments.
 
2012-10-11 11:59:56 AM
Our caves want our allies to put something in them short term?
 
2012-10-11 12:06:15 PM

sprawl15: More proof that Obama is astoundingly weak on foreign policy and lacks the courage to face foreign aggression. Or something.


Yeah, so lets turn over the white house to the guy who wants other nations to decide how we treat our policy toward them, by calling them up and asking if our policy is okay, as well as go to war to fight their enemies at the cost of our blood and money, and who is a member of the party who ignored 9/11 warning, causing 3,000 Americans to die in our streets. Not to mention his party's brillantly frakked up job handling the Afghan and Iraq wars, and all their embassey attacks and domestic terror incidents.


That's way better then arguments about missile range.
 
2012-10-11 12:07:19 PM

sprawl15: More proof that Obama is astoundingly weak on foreign policy and lacks the courage to face foreign aggression. Or something.


I've voted Republican. I have Republican friends and they're good people. Too often, however, I feel their criticisms of Obama could not be further off the mark. It isn't that I think Obama is perfect or that he is exempt from criticism. On the contrary, it is that they criticize him for the wrong things.

They are upset that Obamacare exists in any form. I am astounded they aren't demanding universal, single payer health care.

They call Obama "weak on foreign policy". I wonder why people aren't pouring into the streets to protest CIA drone strikes, demand withdrawal from all conflicts in which our military is currently engaged, and demand reduction of armaments and defense contracts in favor of investing in a civilian economy.

They worry he is not a "real American." I worry that the Patriot Act continues to allow unwarranted spying on citizens and invasion of our privacy.

They feel he is responsible for Fast and Furious related agent deaths. I wonder why they don't write their congressman and request the legalization, regulation, and taxation of marijuana.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
 
2012-10-11 12:08:30 PM
Why you mad? Job creation!

Who do you think will sell them the missiles?
 
2012-10-11 12:08:46 PM

Antimatter: sprawl15: More proof that Obama is astoundingly weak on foreign policy and lacks the courage to face foreign aggression. Or something.

Yeah, so lets turn over the white house to the guy who wants other nations to decide how we treat our policy toward them, by calling them up and asking if our policy is okay, as well as go to war to fight their enemies at the cost of our blood and money, and who is a member of the party who ignored 9/11 warning, causing 3,000 Americans to die in our streets. Not to mention his party's brillantly frakked up job handling the Afghan and Iraq wars, and all their embassey attacks and domestic terror incidents.


That's way better then arguments about missile range.


With all due respect, I think you missed the "or something".
 
2012-10-11 12:11:40 PM
I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to be outraged about here.
 
2012-10-11 12:13:42 PM

sprawl15: More proof that Obama is astoundingly weak on foreign policy and lacks the courage to face foreign aggression. Or something.


If you are actually serious and not trolling I weep for you sir.

What is interesting about paranoid people, who lash out randomly is that after a while even their friends feel the need to protect themselves against the paranoia. When our country is filled with those people and our image is of a country filled with delusionals that see enemies in every shadow expect our allies to back away at the least. If you think that bombastically strong arming every foreign policy dispute to our will is the sign of great leadership you are incredibly shortsighted.

But just to be clear, no ramping up an arms race is never a good thing and this needs to be dealt with. What truly scares me is the idea of an exhausted US, because we're too busy fighting amongst ourselves politically to realize that we're losing credibility globally. This just in btw, other countries do matter. How many self-imposed chinks in the armor do you think it will take before someone decides to take a swing? This time is very crucial due to the global economic situation, to provide a sense of stability and good will. We should be the example to other countries on how to fix our own problems and lead by example. A house divided and all that...

Make no mistake though, right now we're seen like a pissed off drunk in a crowded bar. No one doubts our ability to be forceful, it's the ability to stay in control and act rationally that they care about.
 
2012-10-11 12:20:59 PM

Lunaville: Antimatter: sprawl15: More proof that Obama is astoundingly weak on foreign policy and lacks the courage to face foreign aggression. Or something.

Yeah, so lets turn over the white house to the guy who wants other nations to decide how we treat our policy toward them, by calling them up and asking if our policy is okay, as well as go to war to fight their enemies at the cost of our blood and money, and who is a member of the party who ignored 9/11 warning, causing 3,000 Americans to die in our streets. Not to mention his party's brillantly frakked up job handling the Afghan and Iraq wars, and all their embassey attacks and domestic terror incidents.


That's way better then arguments about missile range.

With all due respect, I think you missed the "or something".


What if I'm serious though? Maybe i've finally seen the light, given myself over to the ruinous powers, and want to see the galaxy burn?
 
2012-10-11 12:24:17 PM

Antimatter: Lunaville: Antimatter: sprawl15: More proof that Obama is astoundingly weak on foreign policy and lacks the courage to face foreign aggression. Or something.

Yeah, so lets turn over the white house to the guy who wants other nations to decide how we treat our policy toward them, by calling them up and asking if our policy is okay, as well as go to war to fight their enemies at the cost of our blood and money, and who is a member of the party who ignored 9/11 warning, causing 3,000 Americans to die in our streets. Not to mention his party's brillantly frakked up job handling the Afghan and Iraq wars, and all their embassey attacks and domestic terror incidents.


That's way better then arguments about missile range.

With all due respect, I think you missed the "or something".

What if I'm serious though? Maybe i've finally seen the light, given myself over to the ruinous powers, and want to see the galaxy burn?


Well, there may not be enough oxygen in space to burn the entire galaxy.
 
2012-10-11 12:53:04 PM

Lunaville: Antimatter: Lunaville: Antimatter: sprawl15: More proof that Obama is astoundingly weak on foreign policy and lacks the courage to face foreign aggression. Or something.

Yeah, so lets turn over the white house to the guy who wants other nations to decide how we treat our policy toward them, by calling them up and asking if our policy is okay, as well as go to war to fight their enemies at the cost of our blood and money, and who is a member of the party who ignored 9/11 warning, causing 3,000 Americans to die in our streets. Not to mention his party's brillantly frakked up job handling the Afghan and Iraq wars, and all their embassey attacks and domestic terror incidents.


That's way better then arguments about missile range.

With all due respect, I think you missed the "or something".

What if I'm serious though? Maybe i've finally seen the light, given myself over to the ruinous powers, and want to see the galaxy burn?

Well, there may not be enough oxygen in space to burn the entire galaxy.


With chaos, anything is possible. Logic, order, and reason are false hopes compared to the purity and necessity of chaos. it is everlasting, inescapable, and desirable.
 
2012-10-11 09:03:24 PM
South Korea counts as local?
 
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