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2012-10-11 08:49:29 AM  
6 votes:
I want to point out that we hashed this all out last election with the Dibold machines. That election resulted in a Democrat White House, House, and Senate. If the GOP is waging a secret campaign to steal votes through voting equipment, their track record is awful.
2012-10-11 08:38:34 AM  
5 votes:
Why did this story only come out after Obama crapped out in the debate and Romney finally passed him in the polls?

Not a Romney fan, but "excuse making" already?
2012-10-11 09:59:15 AM  
4 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I'm not going to get all tinfoily just yet, but it is pretty goddamn stupid that we allow companies which will benefit one way or another based on the outcome of an election to supply closed-box voting "solutions" for those elections.

Voting machines, the way we do them, are bullshiat through and through. Release the farking source code and instantiate an audit-able paper trail.


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2012-10-11 09:14:27 AM  
4 votes:
In Georgia the implementation of electronic voting machines was, initially, supported by Democrats and opposed by Republicans. Both parties are now complacent about the utter lack of accountability that comes with a lack of a paper receipt. At this time, only the Libertarians are serious about addressing this shortcoming in our election process.

A street side ice-cream vendor can generate a paper receipt with little more than his cell phone, but we are supposed to believe it is impossible to generate a paper receipt at the voting booth. Bullsh-t.

It doesn't matter whether you are a Democrat, a Republican, a member of a third party, or an independent voter; every voter should receive a paper receipt allowing him or her to verify that the votes cast were recorded correctly. This would increase voter confidence in our elections and allow for effective recounts when necessary. Most importantly, it would help bolster the integrity of our elections.
2012-10-11 09:08:33 AM  
4 votes:
2012-10-11 08:44:54 AM  
3 votes:
No proof of e-voting machines ever being hacked ergo this is a made up problem.

Even simpler put, there are more cases of voter fraud than there are voter theft.

don't blame me for applying the logic put forth by anti-voter ID folks to their own pet conspiracy theories.
2012-10-11 08:42:14 AM  
3 votes:

Setting up those excuses early, are we?

Republican wins) Dems: "They stole the election!"

Democrat wins) Repubs: "Damn! We lost!"

2012-10-11 08:36:07 AM  
3 votes:

TeddyBallGame: Normally I'm not much into conspiracy theory but I've been thinking about this for about a year. The only reason the GOP would shiat the bed like they have in the last year and remain confident is the possibility that they have figured out a way to steal the election. Just saying'.


Considering this is pretty much the same logic applied in 2008, if anyone's haxxing dem machines, wouldn't it have to be Democrats? Accusations of voting fraud seem to have zero correlation with the actual results. The only case with merit is the Florida Gore/Bush debacle, and that was an issue of horrible usability rather than rigging.

/Or, you know, no one
2012-10-11 08:02:50 AM  
3 votes:
Normally I'm not much into conspiracy theory but I've been thinking about this for about a year. The only reason the GOP would shiat the bed like they have in the last year and remain confident is the possibility that they have figured out a way to steal the election. Just saying'.
2012-10-11 09:42:35 AM  
2 votes:
I'm not going to get all tinfoily just yet, but it is pretty goddamn stupid that we allow companies which will benefit one way or another based on the outcome of an election to supply closed-box voting "solutions" for those elections.

Voting machines, the way we do them, are bullshiat through and through. Release the farking source code and instantiate an audit-able paper trail.
2012-10-11 09:23:14 AM  
2 votes:

Lunaville: It doesn't matter whether you are a Democrat, a Republican, a member of a third party, or an independent voter; every voter should receive a paper receipt allowing him or her to verify that the votes cast were recorded correctly.


Ummm ... what would it prove? A machine rigged to change your D vote to an R vote could easily also print out a D receipt. The piece of paper is false security ... unless it was printed by an unrelated auditing company that had a system that just monitored votes and printed receipts.
2012-10-11 09:06:00 AM  
2 votes:

SandMann: Ah, yes. No evidence of wrongdoing, but that doesn't matter.

The groundwork for the Democrat conspiracy theories is being laid, just in case they lose.

If they win, this will go down the memory hole.

If they lose it will become a cononical part of all future shrieking about Romney.


If the Democrats lose, we'll spend the next four/eight years watching everything go down the sh*tter and hearing how it's all Obama's fault.
2012-10-11 09:01:59 AM  
2 votes:
Ah, yes. No evidence of wrongdoing, but that doesn't matter.

The groundwork for the Democrat conspiracy theories is being laid, just in case they lose.

If they win, this will go down the memory hole.

If they lose it will become a cononical part of all future shrieking about Romney.
2012-10-11 09:01:33 AM  
2 votes:
I've never trusted e-voting. Once my ballot is entered, the 1's and 0's can be manipulated into whatever.
2012-10-11 08:50:47 AM  
2 votes:
Time Warner is one of the biggest Obama contributers. If you want to talk about donors trying to influence an election, i'd be much more worried about some mass media outlet viewed by millions of people for years than some voting machine whose programming and mechanics can be scrutinized prior to the election.
2012-10-11 08:49:02 AM  
2 votes:

acad1228: Setting up those excuses early, are we?Republican wins) Dems: "They stole the election!"Democrat wins) Repubs: "Damn! We lost!"


No, more like

(Dem wins) Repubs: Voter fraud! Change all the rules! Redistrict! They're only voting for him because he's black! Dismantle the entire party and reform as "independents" with even more extreme beliefs, then run as Republicans-who-aren't-Republicans! And when you win by calling the other guy a socialist nazi muslim black panther Kenyan, do everything you can to halt the political process until the next election so you can get the black guy out of office!


I think that's a better summary.
2012-10-11 08:43:23 AM  
2 votes:
If you're not capable of creating and implementing effective domestic and foreign policy, blame the voting machines when you lose!
2012-10-11 08:42:21 AM  
2 votes:
Can you imagine how this article would be written if there were connections to a company that Obama was associated with:

"Voting machines completely corrupt!! Contain software written by Obummer himself ... in Muslim!!!!"

/yes I know that Muslim isn't a language much less a programming language ,,, but Freepers don't
2012-10-11 02:46:06 PM  
1 votes:
Round up republicans and put them in a pen. Sing it. It's catchy.
2012-10-11 12:56:58 PM  
1 votes:
Us Canuckistanis don't have to worry about things like this. We use the very advanced "mark an X on the paper with the pencil they give you" technique of voting, which is processed by these strange things called "people" after the polls close.
Strangely, we have no problems with things like hanging chads, balky voting machines, and so forth.
You guys should try it sometime.
2012-10-11 12:34:43 PM  
1 votes:

Callous:
Look into reality. In the state of MA all the registered voters' names and addresses are posted on the wall just inside the door. All you need to get handed a ballot is to be able to spit out a name and matching address that you just read on the list by the door.

I don't know where the Commonwealth you live but this isn't true in my town.

The names and addresses of the voters are at the precinct tables where the election workers hand you your ballot. You walk up, tell them your address and name and they check you off and hand you a vote. After you fill out the ballot you go to a different table, give your name and address, are checked off again and put your ballot in the machine.

In order to commit fraud you'd have to vote for someone who didn't show up and rely on the workers not recognizing you or the person who you're claiming to be.
2012-10-11 12:24:06 PM  
1 votes:

StoPPeRmobile: MarkEC: Headso: MarkEC: I was in line at a Giant Eagle near me and some older guy in front of me was refused service when he couldn't provide an ID to purchase alcohol. He biatched up a storm. then stomped out and got in his car and drove away.

It sounds like you are using a story about an idiotic application of a law to advocate for another idiotic application of a law.

Headso: MarkEC: I was in line at a Giant Eagle near me and some older guy in front of me was refused service when he couldn't provide an ID to purchase alcohol. He biatched up a storm. then stomped out and got in his car and drove away.

It sounds like you are using a story about an idiotic application of a law to advocate for another idiotic application of a law.

Nope, just pointing out that you need an ID for a lot more than driving and voting. Ever stay in a hotel room? rent anything? You probably were asked for ID.

I didn't know that staying in a hotel was a Constitutional right.


It's not, but owning a gun is, and I need an ID for that.
Every citizen that isn't a felon has the right to vote, and the government has the responsibility to ensure that the voting isn't fraudulent. How can you ensure that someone that is voting is doing so legitimately without properly Identifying them? Please explain that to me in detail.
2012-10-11 12:18:48 PM  
1 votes:

MarkEC: Headso: MarkEC: I was in line at a Giant Eagle near me and some older guy in front of me was refused service when he couldn't provide an ID to purchase alcohol. He biatched up a storm. then stomped out and got in his car and drove away.

It sounds like you are using a story about an idiotic application of a law to advocate for another idiotic application of a law.

Headso: MarkEC: I was in line at a Giant Eagle near me and some older guy in front of me was refused service when he couldn't provide an ID to purchase alcohol. He biatched up a storm. then stomped out and got in his car and drove away.

It sounds like you are using a story about an idiotic application of a law to advocate for another idiotic application of a law.

Nope, just pointing out that you need an ID for a lot more than driving and voting. Ever stay in a hotel room? rent anything? You probably were asked for ID.


I didn't know that staying in a hotel was a Constitutional right.
2012-10-11 12:15:09 PM  
1 votes:

Headso: MarkEC: I was in line at a Giant Eagle near me and some older guy in front of me was refused service when he couldn't provide an ID to purchase alcohol. He biatched up a storm. then stomped out and got in his car and drove away.

It sounds like you are using a story about an idiotic application of a law to advocate for another idiotic application of a law.


Headso: MarkEC: I was in line at a Giant Eagle near me and some older guy in front of me was refused service when he couldn't provide an ID to purchase alcohol. He biatched up a storm. then stomped out and got in his car and drove away.

It sounds like you are using a story about an idiotic application of a law to advocate for another idiotic application of a law.


Nope, just pointing out that you need an ID for a lot more than driving and voting. Ever stay in a hotel room? rent anything? You probably were asked for ID.
2012-10-11 12:09:36 PM  
1 votes:

Headso: Callous: Headso: Callous: Headso: Callous: All you need to get handed a ballot is to be able to spit out a name and matching address that you just read on the list by the door.

and if you happened to have picked someone who had already voted or will come to vote later you have just committed a federal felony in front of respected members of the community, If you don't mind committing federal felonies you probably are not a big voter to begin with. All your crackpot scenarios involve some ocean's 11 esque conspiracy all to get 1 extra vote, it's idiotic.

And I'm sure that if I were to do that in the morning that when the real person comes in in the evening everyone is going to remember exactly who I was amongst the thousands of people that filed through the place that day. Oh wait they didn't ID me, they have no idea who I was and therefore can't charge me. Where I vote is in a middle school gymnasium and there are no cameras. So by the standards established up thread since they have no idea who I was and can't charge me it never happened.

for one those votes wouldn't be counted and for two there would be an investigation because it is a federal felony, you know, kind of a serious crime... Can you come up with a single farking reason why a person would commit such a crime unless you truly believe that there are people out there who are such zealots for the democratic party they would do that, it's like fundie muslim level of loyalty to allah you'd have to think democrats were the greatest farking thing ever.

If there's no system in place to catch them why wouldn't they? How can they not count that vote? No one is tracking who gets which ballot. I fill it out and drop it in the box. Once it's in there no one knows which one it is.

red flags are raised when 2 people vote under the same name and there is a system to catch people. come one man, people don't even vote legally but you are acting like you have a logical argument when you say there are all these ...


And since they are forbidden to ask for ID who do they believe, the guy standing in front of them saying he is Jim Smith or the guy that voted hours ago whose face and ballot they can no longer identify that said he was Jim Smith?

Do you truly believe Democrats are suddenly defending this issue as champions of voter rights and republicans are just trying to steal elections?
2012-10-11 12:08:56 PM  
1 votes:

Headso: Callous: Headso: Callous: Headso: Callous: All you need to get handed a ballot is to be able to spit out a name and matching address that you just read on the list by the door.

and if you happened to have picked someone who had already voted or will come to vote later you have just committed a federal felony in front of respected members of the community, If you don't mind committing federal felonies you probably are not a big voter to begin with. All your crackpot scenarios involve some ocean's 11 esque conspiracy all to get 1 extra vote, it's idiotic.

And I'm sure that if I were to do that in the morning that when the real person comes in in the evening everyone is going to remember exactly who I was amongst the thousands of people that filed through the place that day. Oh wait they didn't ID me, they have no idea who I was and therefore can't charge me. Where I vote is in a middle school gymnasium and there are no cameras. So by the standards established up thread since they have no idea who I was and can't charge me it never happened.

for one those votes wouldn't be counted and for two there would be an investigation because it is a federal felony, you know, kind of a serious crime... Can you come up with a single farking reason why a person would commit such a crime unless you truly believe that there are people out there who are such zealots for the democratic party they would do that, it's like fundie muslim level of loyalty to allah you'd have to think democrats were the greatest farking thing ever.

If there's no system in place to catch them why wouldn't they? How can they not count that vote? No one is tracking who gets which ballot. I fill it out and drop it in the box. Once it's in there no one knows which one it is.

red flags are raised when 2 people vote under the same name and there is a system to catch people. come one man, people don't even vote legally but you are acting like you have a logical argument when you say there are all these ...


10. The number of in-person voter fraud cases that have been proven nationwide since 2000.
2012-10-11 12:02:23 PM  
1 votes:

Farking Canuck: Ummm ... what would it prove? A machine rigged to change your D vote to an R vote could easily also print out a D receipt. The piece of paper is false security ... unless it was printed by an unrelated auditing company that had a system that just monitored votes and printed receipts.


Brazil has such a system, it's called "voter verified paper trail". You don't get to keep the paper copy, the paper copy is printed out by the machine, you see it, then you approve it. It gets dropped into a lock box. After the election is complete, the electronic total of votes is spit out. A percentage of precincts are randomly chosen and then those precincts are recounted by hand. If the electronic count doesn't match the paper count, ALL the precincts are counted by hand.
2012-10-11 12:01:11 PM  
1 votes:
Only liberals would think showing ID to vote is a bad thing...
2012-10-11 11:36:34 AM  
1 votes:

fireclown: MarkEC: If a State requires documentation for voter ID, then they probably required the same documentation for you to register to vote in the first place, so you already have said documentation.

including a photo on the voter ID card would be helpful.


The new photo card is called a ...................... Voter ID Card!
2012-10-11 11:34:32 AM  
1 votes:

Callous: Headso: Callous: Headso: Callous: All you need to get handed a ballot is to be able to spit out a name and matching address that you just read on the list by the door.

and if you happened to have picked someone who had already voted or will come to vote later you have just committed a federal felony in front of respected members of the community, If you don't mind committing federal felonies you probably are not a big voter to begin with. All your crackpot scenarios involve some ocean's 11 esque conspiracy all to get 1 extra vote, it's idiotic.

And I'm sure that if I were to do that in the morning that when the real person comes in in the evening everyone is going to remember exactly who I was amongst the thousands of people that filed through the place that day. Oh wait they didn't ID me, they have no idea who I was and therefore can't charge me. Where I vote is in a middle school gymnasium and there are no cameras. So by the standards established up thread since they have no idea who I was and can't charge me it never happened.

for one those votes wouldn't be counted and for two there would be an investigation because it is a federal felony, you know, kind of a serious crime... Can you come up with a single farking reason why a person would commit such a crime unless you truly believe that there are people out there who are such zealots for the democratic party they would do that, it's like fundie muslim level of loyalty to allah you'd have to think democrats were the greatest farking thing ever.

If there's no system in place to catch them why wouldn't they? How can they not count that vote? No one is tracking who gets which ballot. I fill it out and drop it in the box. Once it's in there no one knows which one it is.


red flags are raised when 2 people vote under the same name and there is a system to catch people. come one man, people don't even vote legally but you are acting like you have a logical argument when you say there are all these people out there stealing elections for democrats by voting twice but yet it has never been uncovered.

Do you truly believe republicans are suddenly taking this issue up as champions of democracy and democrats have been stealing elections all these years?
2012-10-11 11:30:57 AM  
1 votes:

sodomizer: Callous: When there's no method in place of verifying that the person is who they say they are how is that proof to ever exist?

Where I vote all you need to get a ballot is a name and address. Conveniently, they are all posted on the wall right inside the door.

Exactly.

Democrats want zero responsibility to identify yourself as an actual living, non-criminal, legal citizen.

They also want to make sure overseas armed forces aren't able to vote.

This maximizes the Democratic coalition who want benefits (Romney's "47%").

It's unpopular to say this on the internet, but you can see how the Democrats on Fark squirm when it's mentioned.

They don't like the light of truth shining on their shady practices. For them, it's all about wanting to be on the winning team.

I'll say it again: liberalism is a mental disease spread by misery. Notice how miserable the most prominent liberals here, and in the press, are.


Look, dude, you're working too hard. If you want to be remembered as one of the greatest Fark trolls, there's a specific formula for achieving it. Simply put, you have to wait till enough of the initial TFers have had their say with logic and good common sense. Then, when it gets to us liters, you have to rip a full blast of Poe's Law ultraderp in one cataclysmic comment. Then, you sit back and watch the unwary debate against your strawman. If you break the silence afterwards, you end up in the Ignorezone with Thunderpipes; too much yammering gets you cut off from your prospective audience. Better luck on your next alt.
2012-10-11 11:30:33 AM  
1 votes:

MarkEC: If a State requires documentation for voter ID, then they probably required the same documentation for you to register to vote in the first place, so you already have said documentation.


including a photo on the voter ID card would be helpful.
2012-10-11 11:28:36 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: MarkEC: Persons who want the new Department of State Voter ID will need to provide their

Name
Address
Date of Birth
Social Security number (If the customer has been issued an SSN)
County
Previous name and/or address if changed in the past 12 months.

That is all you need! They search the voter rolls and address info and viola, you get an ID!

If that were the case, I don't think I'd have seen news reports of people being turned away and told to come back with "proper documentation".


If a State requires documentation for voter ID, then they probably required the same documentation for you to register to vote in the first place, so you already have said documentation. As my link states, PA doesn't require any documentation, only that you be registered to vote already and provide information that they can check on. If you are not registered to vote already, it will be kicked out. (you can register to vote in the same place) If your address is new or you don't have an SSN, they may put it on hold till they verify your info.
2012-10-11 11:17:49 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: sodomizer: How expensive are they that "the poor" (a media creation, since there's no uniformity to the group) can't afford them? Don't they need them for other things? Is it a question of sacrificing something non-essential (cable TV) for something essential (ID)?

It was a pain in the ass for me to get all of the proper documentation together when I had to get a passport, and that was with the luxury of having time off from work to get it. I can't imagine it's any easier for a poor person.


From my above link:
Persons who want the new Department of State Voter ID will need to provide their

Name
Address
Date of Birth
Social Security number (If the customer has been issued an SSN)
County
Previous name and/or address if changed in the past 12 months.

That is all you need! They search the voter rolls and address info and viola, you get an ID!
2012-10-11 10:58:14 AM  
1 votes:

Callous: GoldSpider: digitalrain: Requiring voters to have legal identification is racist and disenfranchises minorities and the poor.

Try "Requiring voters to have legal identification is more likely to affect the poor, of whom a large number are minorities."

Make them free. Problem solved.


In Pennsylvania they are free. Yet the courts blocked enforcement of the voter ID law for this year.
2012-10-11 10:50:48 AM  
1 votes:

Headso: Considering republicans are not above rigging the election through disenfranchisement it would not be that surprising.


Considering democrats are not above rigging the election through voter fraud it would not be that surprising.
2012-10-11 10:48:02 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: digitalrain: Requiring voters to have legal identification is racist and disenfranchises minorities and the poor.

Try "Requiring voters to have legal identification is more likely to affect the poor, of whom a large number are minorities."


I'm not the one saying its' racist. I think the whole "THAT'S RACIST" argument is stupid.
2012-10-11 10:47:48 AM  
1 votes:

Callous: All you need to get handed a ballot is to be able to spit out a name and matching address that you just read on the list by the door.


and if you happened to have picked someone who had already voted or will come to vote later you have just committed a federal felony in front of respected members of the community, If you don't mind committing federal felonies you probably are not a big voter to begin with. All your crackpot scenarios involve some ocean's 11 esque conspiracy all to get 1 extra vote, it's idiotic.
2012-10-11 10:47:31 AM  
1 votes:
THIS is why Obama is going to *lose* the election in November.

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2012-10-11 10:36:12 AM  
1 votes:

Lunaville: Two people have questioned the value of a paper receipt indicating that the vote actually cast could differ from that listed on the receipt. In an uncontested election, the paper receipt would have little or no value. In a contested election, the paper receipts would be counted. Any statistically significant difference between the voter verified paper receipts and the machine count would warrant an investigation into the reliability and maintenance of the machines as well as into the company that manufactures and/or operates the machines. It is very likely that each political party would benefit from that extra measure of oversight in some place, at some point. A paper trail, in the event of a contested election, benefits all political parties, the election process, and the voter.


I'm all for this.
2012-10-11 10:34:44 AM  
1 votes:

Thallone1: Dafatone: craig328: why do we have a political party that relies on felons and people illegally in the country to win elections?

Relies on?

Every recent effort to block illegal immigrants from voting (voter roll purges, ID laws,) would block many more legal voters than illegal ones. Estimates say a few million legal voters could have been disenfranchised countrywide by the recent wave of ID laws. Florida tried to purge 180,000 voters from the registry, many of whom were legal.

But no. It's totally that Democrats rely on the illegal vote, and not that stopping millions of legal voters from voting sucks.

Interesting viewpoint. Try squaring this : we shouldn't have to show id to exercise the right to vote, but we *must* show id to exercise the right to bear arms.

Also, you are required to have photo id to drive or cash a check at the bank, how many people would honestly not have an id that would allow that?


But haven't you heard? Requiring voters to have legal identification is racist and disenfranchises minorities and the poor.

Citations: here and here.

How the FARK is requiring someone to have legal ID a racist move?

The stupid...it burns...
2012-10-11 10:24:02 AM  
1 votes:

Thallone1: Dafatone: craig328: why do we have a political party that relies on felons and people illegally in the country to win elections?

Relies on?

Every recent effort to block illegal immigrants from voting (voter roll purges, ID laws,) would block many more legal voters than illegal ones. Estimates say a few million legal voters could have been disenfranchised countrywide by the recent wave of ID laws. Florida tried to purge 180,000 voters from the registry, many of whom were legal.

But no. It's totally that Democrats rely on the illegal vote, and not that stopping millions of legal voters from voting sucks.

Interesting viewpoint. Try squaring this : we shouldn't have to show id to exercise the right to vote, but we *must* show id to exercise the right to bear arms.

Also, you are required to have photo id to drive or cash a check at the bank, how many people would honestly not have an id that would allow that?


I don't know, how about a few million poor people with no bank account and subsequently no job, car or bank?
2012-10-11 09:48:16 AM  
1 votes:

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: 2010: Voting machine casts phantom votes, invalidating real votes

2008: Voting machines manufacturer admits their machines 'lose' votes. Ohio used them anyway.

2008: Another source for the 'lost' votes.

2007/2008: Hackers manage to hack every model of voting machine used in California

Florida 2000: Voting machine awards Bush 2813 votes and Gore negative 16022 votes in a precinct with only 585 registered voters

How to Hack a Diebold voting machine - the method used in the above Gore-Bush vote 'error' 

That's from 30 seconds of searching.


And yet no proof it swayed the election. This is the logic liberals use in voter fraud. Okeefe gets a ballot in holder's name and it is non proof because he never voted.

The fact is it is nearly impossible to identify in person voting fraud because the only way to find it is by checking id. Of course this is outlawed. So the only good means of checking for in person fraud is not allowed. But liberals say no convictions, no problem. This is a fallacy. If someone votes as someone else, they leave and ate long gone by the time the real voter shows, no conviction. If real voter never shows, no conviction. The only convictions have stemmed from someone voting as two people in the same precincts.
Xoc
2012-10-11 09:43:19 AM  
1 votes:
Why aren't voting machines exposed to the same scrutiny as slot machines? Write your representatives and senators and get a law passed!
2012-10-11 09:42:32 AM  
1 votes:

craig328: Why is one party doing everything they can to block efforts to weed those folk out?


Why is one party doing everything they can to make it more difficult for people to exercise their right to vote?
2012-10-11 09:38:04 AM  
1 votes:

MyRandomName: TeddyBallGame: Normally I'm not much into conspiracy theory but I've been thinking about this for about a year. The only reason the GOP would shiat the bed like they have in the last year and remain confident is the possibility that they have figured out a way to steal the election. Just saying'.

Their dastardly plan was actually to let Obama be himself on a live debate. Seems to have worked.


As opposed to Romney, who just smirked a lot and continued lying as he has done this entire campaign.
2012-10-11 09:36:10 AM  
1 votes:

TeddyBallGame: Normally I'm not much into conspiracy theory but I've been thinking about this for about a year. The only reason the GOP would shiat the bed like they have in the last year and remain confident is the possibility that they have figured out a way to steal the election. Just saying'.


Their dastardly plan was actually to let Obama be himself on a live debate. Seems to have worked.
2012-10-11 09:30:17 AM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: So many conservatives in here that are no longer concerned about the integrity of the voting process. Makes me think they aren't really serious about all those bogus voting laws they're pushing in those same swing states.


Oh we are concerned. Concerned that the dead, illegals and your welfare class will all vote many times. Seems it is your side that wants anything and anyone to vote regardless of how many times or if they legally can.
2012-10-11 09:20:28 AM  
1 votes:
Pfft - That's not a conspiracy theory. This is a conspiracy theory...

Bush ran the country into the ground and gave hundreds of millions, if not more, to loyal supporters in no bid contracts and other underhanded financial wranglings involving the war amongst other things. Republicans didn't want to be in the house when the bill for the colossal dine and dash came due so they ran McCain and let the negro win (kind of like putting sheriff Bart in Rock Ridge). Then when the bills they ran up came due they all point and scream "tax and spend, tax and spend" even though he's just cleaning up their mess. And people are stupid and already forgot about that whole pay for war and lots and lots of "consultants". And he's black and wasn't able to pull off the miracles he thought he would (like most presidents have not) so it's easy to turn voters against him. It would not seem there is much taxpayer money left to steal but they are creative and positioned for pulling in Romney. He has proven he can get blood out of a stone and like most companies he's taken over, he's come to finish the job and funnel what's left out of the country into private hands. Then they split for good and spend the rest of their years in the Caribbean.

Rookies.
2012-10-11 09:16:51 AM  
1 votes:
i.ytimg.com

/I'm calling it First.
2012-10-11 09:14:33 AM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: fireclown: Cythraul: How exactly do criminals and illegal aliens vote?

By obtaining someone elses name, address and birthday. I admit, it's a hassle, but it is an easy enough matter that it kind of worries me. Maybe we could consider putting a photo on your voter registration card.

And you have some sort of record, proof I'd say, of something like this happening often?


When there's no method in place of verifying that the person is who they say they are how is that proof to ever exist?

Where I vote all you need to get a ballot is a name and address. Conveniently, they are all posted on the wall right inside the door.
2012-10-11 09:04:49 AM  
1 votes:
ZOMGWTFBBQ! Voting machine company was bought out in large part by HIG Capital. HIG
has ties to Bain...and to Romney...and donated to his campaign fund and...and...

Well...I was going to say that they also donated to Obama's campaign (which they did,
to the tune of at least $40k), but the lion's share of donations do tend to skew toward
Romney.

Does it raise eyebrows? Sure...or if not, it should. But no more so than the bin Laden
movie that's coming out - coincidentally - 2 days before the election.

There's a LOT wrong with how the gear-up to this election has gone.
2012-10-11 09:04:35 AM  
1 votes:

Cythraul: How exactly do criminals and illegal aliens vote?


By obtaining someone elses name, address and birthday. I admit, it's a hassle, but it is an easy enough matter that it kind of worries me. Maybe we could consider putting a photo on your voter registration card.
2012-10-11 09:03:10 AM  
1 votes:
I see they're gearing up for the fraud/race card.
2012-10-11 08:53:54 AM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: So many conservatives in here that are no longer concerned about the integrity of the voting process. Makes me think they aren't really serious about all those bogus voting laws they're pushing in those same swing states.


Not being concerned about the integrity of the voting machines is not the same as being concerned about who is voting. Dems are concerned that the machines are rigged, Repubs are concerned about who's pushing the buttons on election day.
2012-10-11 08:49:41 AM  
1 votes:
It's not whose machines register the votes. It's whose machines count the votes.
2012-10-11 08:48:23 AM  
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JonnyG: A lot of Americans will not give a damn about this because they simply believe such a thing would never happen. That is terrifying, as I assure you it would and could happen. Worse yet, bringing it up now is probably just a strategy to take the focus off it further down the road.


A lot of Americans are paranoid and they simply believe such a thing always happens. That is terrifying, as I assure you no one has ever found it to have actually happened. Worse yet, bringing it up now is probably just a strategy to focus on it now so it can be an excuse down the road.
2012-10-11 08:48:16 AM  
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Pants full of macaroni!!: All election fraud, and indeed all fraud of any kind, is perpetrated exclusively by Democrat Liberals because, being Muslim-friendly Atheists, they have no morals whatsoever and not only that, but also.


But also, what?
2012-10-11 08:47:20 AM  
1 votes:
All election fraud, and indeed all fraud of any kind, is perpetrated exclusively by Democrat Liberals because, being Muslim-friendly Atheists, they have no morals whatsoever and not only that, but also.
2012-10-11 08:45:36 AM  
1 votes:

sodomizer: This is moonbat conspiracy theory.

The real stealing of the election: making sure that non-citizens, criminals and the dead can vote, because they all want those Democrat benefits.

Liberal parties, from the Bolsheviks to the French Revolution, have always been without honor.

This is because liberalism is a mental disease transmitted through misery.


That was hilarious. I literally laughed at my work desk. Please continue, post more!
2012-10-11 08:42:20 AM  
1 votes:
Not a conspiracy theorist either, but ever since Florida in 2000, I am not sure what to believe anymore. And this story, as presented, does seem troubling.

It could though, just be a very well crafted article designed to scare people. I hope it gets de-bunked or proven accurate soon as opposed to just languishing out there only to be brought up every now and again when convenient.

And I hope it is not true.
2012-10-11 08:39:14 AM  
1 votes:
A lot of Americans will not give a damn about this because they simply believe such a thing would never happen. That is terrifying, as I assure you it would and could happen. Worse yet, bringing it up now is probably just a strategy to take the focus off it further down the road.
2012-10-11 07:55:30 AM  
1 votes:
I'm more concerned about some weisenheimer cracking the voting machines just for the lulz.
 
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