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2012-10-11 09:05:26 AM  

Phineas: Time Warner is one of the biggest Obama contributers. If you want to talk about donors trying to influence an election, i'd be much more worried about some mass media outlet viewed by millions of people for years than some voting machine whose programming and mechanics can be scrutinized prior to the election.


Like Fox?
 
2012-10-11 09:05:36 AM  

fireclown: Cythraul: How exactly do criminals and illegal aliens vote?

By obtaining someone elses name, address and birthday. I admit, it's a hassle, but it is an easy enough matter that it kind of worries me. Maybe we could consider putting a photo on your voter registration card.


And you have some sort of record, proof I'd say, of something like this happening often?
 
2012-10-11 09:06:00 AM  

SandMann: Ah, yes. No evidence of wrongdoing, but that doesn't matter.

The groundwork for the Democrat conspiracy theories is being laid, just in case they lose.

If they win, this will go down the memory hole.

If they lose it will become a cononical part of all future shrieking about Romney.


If the Democrats lose, we'll spend the next four/eight years watching everything go down the sh*tter and hearing how it's all Obama's fault.
 
2012-10-11 09:06:05 AM  

digitalrain: Does it raise eyebrows? Sure...or if not, it should. But no more so than the bin Laden
movie that's coming out - coincidentally - 2 days before the election.


The Right Stuff didn't help John Glenn that much
 
2012-10-11 09:06:36 AM  
MENDOZA!!

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2012-10-11 09:08:33 AM  
 
2012-10-11 09:08:42 AM  
Phew. Romney cannot win the general election without winning Ohio.
 
2012-10-11 09:09:41 AM  

Phineas: Time Warner is one of the biggest Obama contributers. If you want to talk about donors trying to influence an election, i'd be much more worried about some mass media outlet viewed by millions of people for years than some voting machine whose programming and mechanics can be scrutinized prior to the election.


Meanwhile on Fox News....
 
2012-10-11 09:11:24 AM  
Considering republicans are not above rigging the election through disenfranchisement it would not be that surprising.
 
2012-10-11 09:14:09 AM  

SlothB77: Phew. Romney cannot win the general election without winning Ohio.


images.politico.com
"Already on it, boss! When I'm done, nobody outside Kasich, Boehner, and their drinking buddies will be allowed to vote."
 
2012-10-11 09:14:16 AM  

Mrbogey: markfara: Mrbogey: No proof of e-voting machines ever being hacked ergo this is a made up problem.

There were several reported instances in 2000 of voting machines being pre-loaded with Bush votes. Look it up. (Hint: put "Diebold" somewhere in your Google search.)

yea, and did they influence the election? Nope. Try again.

Diogenes: So many conservatives in here that are no longer concerned about the integrity of the voting process. Makes me think they aren't really serious about all those bogus voting laws they're pushing in those same swing states.

Are you saying voter fraud could exist?


Ermm... Whom do you think the victor was in that election?
 
2012-10-11 09:14:27 AM  
In Georgia the implementation of electronic voting machines was, initially, supported by Democrats and opposed by Republicans. Both parties are now complacent about the utter lack of accountability that comes with a lack of a paper receipt. At this time, only the Libertarians are serious about addressing this shortcoming in our election process.

A street side ice-cream vendor can generate a paper receipt with little more than his cell phone, but we are supposed to believe it is impossible to generate a paper receipt at the voting booth. Bullsh-t.

It doesn't matter whether you are a Democrat, a Republican, a member of a third party, or an independent voter; every voter should receive a paper receipt allowing him or her to verify that the votes cast were recorded correctly. This would increase voter confidence in our elections and allow for effective recounts when necessary. Most importantly, it would help bolster the integrity of our elections.
 
2012-10-11 09:14:33 AM  

Cythraul: fireclown: Cythraul: How exactly do criminals and illegal aliens vote?

By obtaining someone elses name, address and birthday. I admit, it's a hassle, but it is an easy enough matter that it kind of worries me. Maybe we could consider putting a photo on your voter registration card.

And you have some sort of record, proof I'd say, of something like this happening often?


When there's no method in place of verifying that the person is who they say they are how is that proof to ever exist?

Where I vote all you need to get a ballot is a name and address. Conveniently, they are all posted on the wall right inside the door.
 
2012-10-11 09:14:41 AM  
The real question here is, Will Romney be wearing his magic underwear on election night?
 
2012-10-11 09:14:44 AM  

Cythraul: Pants full of macaroni!!: All election fraud, and indeed all fraud of any kind, is perpetrated exclusively by Democrat Liberals because, being Muslim-friendly Atheists, they have no morals whatsoever and not only that, but also.

But also, what?


socialisms and furthermore
 
2012-10-11 09:15:49 AM  
Oblig:
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2012-10-11 09:16:38 AM  

Cythraul: sodomizer: fireclown: I want to point out that we hashed this all out last election with the Dibold machines. That election resulted in a Democrat White House, House, and Senate. If the GOP is waging a secret campaign to steal votes through voting equipment, their track record is awful.

Not to mention the sheer implausibility of it all. That somehow these companies, which can barely make working voting machines, have found a way to network all these machines together to secretly steal the vote, is beyond credibility.

However, Democrats sneaking in the dead, fake voters, criminals, illegal aliens, former aliases, etc. is standard practice.

As usual, the liberal tells ten lies while complaining about one fake moonbat theory. Liberalism is a mental disease spread through misery.

How exactly do criminals and illegal aliens vote?


He just told you, they vote Democrat.
 
2012-10-11 09:16:51 AM  
i.ytimg.com

/I'm calling it First.
 
2012-10-11 09:16:56 AM  

digitalrain: ZOMGWTFBBQ! Voting machine company was bought out in large part by HIG Capital. HIG
has ties to Bain...and to Romney...and donated to his campaign fund and...and...

Well...I was going to say that they also donated to Obama's campaign (which they did,
to the tune of at least $40k), but the lion's share of donations do tend to skew toward
Romney.

Does it raise eyebrows? Sure...or if not, it should. But no more so than the bin Laden
movie that's coming out - coincidentally - 2 days before the election.

There's a LOT wrong with how the gear-up to this election has gone.


Is the Bin Laden movie being produced by a company that is or used to be owned by Obama?

Even if it was, it wouldn't matter too much since that movie is, at best for Obama, a large-scale campaign commercial which nobody will see before early voting has ended in most states. And you're comparing that to the fact that one of the candidates practically (if not "actually") owns the company making the voting machines. This is a very different beast, altogether!
 
2012-10-11 09:19:34 AM  

ChipNASA: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/I'm calling it First.


mikeely.files.wordpress.com

/then I'm calling it First
 
2012-10-11 09:20:14 AM  

Space_Poet: sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disease spread through misery.

Yeah, because we have to deal with people like you.


In space, no one can hear your prose.
 
2012-10-11 09:20:27 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: All election fraud, and indeed all fraud of any kind, is perpetrated exclusively by Democrat Liberals because, being Muslim-friendly Atheists, they have no morals whatsoever and not only that, but also.

 
2012-10-11 09:20:28 AM  
Pfft - That's not a conspiracy theory. This is a conspiracy theory...

Bush ran the country into the ground and gave hundreds of millions, if not more, to loyal supporters in no bid contracts and other underhanded financial wranglings involving the war amongst other things. Republicans didn't want to be in the house when the bill for the colossal dine and dash came due so they ran McCain and let the negro win (kind of like putting sheriff Bart in Rock Ridge). Then when the bills they ran up came due they all point and scream "tax and spend, tax and spend" even though he's just cleaning up their mess. And people are stupid and already forgot about that whole pay for war and lots and lots of "consultants". And he's black and wasn't able to pull off the miracles he thought he would (like most presidents have not) so it's easy to turn voters against him. It would not seem there is much taxpayer money left to steal but they are creative and positioned for pulling in Romney. He has proven he can get blood out of a stone and like most companies he's taken over, he's come to finish the job and funnel what's left out of the country into private hands. Then they split for good and spend the rest of their years in the Caribbean.

Rookies.
 
2012-10-11 09:20:54 AM  

Callous: When there's no method in place of verifying that the person is who they say they are how is that proof to ever exist?

Where I vote all you need to get a ballot is a name and address. Conveniently, they are all posted on the wall right inside the door.


Exactly.

Democrats want zero responsibility to identify yourself as an actual living, non-criminal, legal citizen.

They also want to make sure overseas armed forces aren't able to vote.

This maximizes the Democratic coalition who want benefits (Romney's "47%").

It's unpopular to say this on the internet, but you can see how the Democrats on Fark squirm when it's mentioned.

They don't like the light of truth shining on their shady practices. For them, it's all about wanting to be on the winning team.

I'll say it again: liberalism is a mental disease spread by misery. Notice how miserable the most prominent liberals here, and in the press, are.
 
2012-10-11 09:23:14 AM  

Lunaville: It doesn't matter whether you are a Democrat, a Republican, a member of a third party, or an independent voter; every voter should receive a paper receipt allowing him or her to verify that the votes cast were recorded correctly.


Ummm ... what would it prove? A machine rigged to change your D vote to an R vote could easily also print out a D receipt. The piece of paper is false security ... unless it was printed by an unrelated auditing company that had a system that just monitored votes and printed receipts.
 
2012-10-11 09:23:30 AM  
fireclown


Nope. Voter fraud is almost non-existent. I believe the last time it was documented here in Texas, it was a wealthy white businessman that split his years living Texas and Colorado. He tried to vote in both states and was caught. Now ELECTORAL fraud is very real. See the Daly machine, or more recently, Florida 2000.
 
2012-10-11 09:23:37 AM  

sodomizer: Democrats want zero responsibility to identify yourself as an actual living, non-criminal, legal citizen.


Except an affidavit signed under oath where falsifying it is a federal felony. Without affidavits our whole court system would cease to function.
 
2012-10-11 09:25:03 AM  
Gaddamnitsomuch.

And the GOP was concerned about voter fraud?

Farking arseholes.

We don't live in a republic anymore people. We live in an oligarchy.
 
2012-10-11 09:25:31 AM  
 
2012-10-11 09:25:32 AM  
"We're not really into conspiracy theories here, so let us just say this upfront: We are not presenting the following article as any kind of conspiracy theory."

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2012-10-11 09:26:16 AM  
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you need to hack a machine that has been hard-coded to give you the results you want.

/just sayin'
 
2012-10-11 09:26:28 AM  

Mrbogey: Are you saying voter fraud could exist?


Interesting. You used "could exist." Sounds like you're not not so sure yourself.

What I'm saying is that a true non-partisan who is concerned about the integrity of the voting process would be against all threats. And I'm not seeing many of those people here.
 
2012-10-11 09:26:39 AM  

TeddyBallGame: Normally I'm not much into conspiracy theory but I've been thinking about this for about a year. The only reason the GOP would shiat the bed like they have in the last year and remain confident is the possibility that they have figured out a way to steal the election. Just saying'.


Same argument used by republicans about SEIU servicing voting machines. Way to join the Voting Machine Truther crowd.
 
2012-10-11 09:26:53 AM  
FTFA: Moreover, just from a cost-benefit standpoint, it doesn't really make sense that these H.I.G. directors would commit a felony and risk their super-lucrative careers just to get their Bain bro elected.

When the president can do executive pardons for just about any crime? If their guy is elected, I don't think committing a felony will concern them.
 
2012-10-11 09:27:08 AM  

digitalrain: ZOMGWTFBBQ! Voting machine company was bought out in large part by HIG Capital. HIG
has ties to Bain...and to Romney...and donated to his campaign fund and...and...

Well...I was going to say that they also donated to Obama's campaign (which they did,
to the tune of at least $40k), but the lion's share of donations do tend to skew toward
Romney.

Does it raise eyebrows? Sure...or if not, it should. But no more so than the bin Laden
movie that's coming out - coincidentally - 2 days before the election.

There's a LOT wrong with how the gear-up to this election has gone.


Yeah, the main problem, though, is people who base their opinions on fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:FARTBAMA emails
 
2012-10-11 09:27:15 AM  

Cythraul: And you have some sort of record, proof I'd say, of something like this happening often?


Nope. I think you've mistaken me for some kind of fire breathing wingnut. My point is that it is conceivable that it could be done, and with no hard record it would be pretty hard to know if it actually DID happen unless the real person actually showed up to vote and it were contested.
 
2012-10-11 09:27:30 AM  

EyeballKid: SlothB77: Phew. Romney cannot win the general election without winning Ohio.

[images.politico.com image 250x376]
"Already on it, boss! When I'm done, nobody outside Kasich, Boehner, and their drinking buddies will be allowed to vote."


I don't want Romney to win the election by rigging it, though. I want Romney to win it legit. I think he can. Given recent polls, if Romney does win, let's not immediately assume it had to be voter fraud. He can definitely win this election without rigging it.
 
2012-10-11 09:28:28 AM  
For the last 12 years, the voting machines in Colorado have been supplied by companies with deep ties to the Republican candidate. Bush took the election in 2000 and 2004 with 2004 being HIGHLY contested and reports of the voting machines recording wrong ballots popping up here and there. Obama won by a landslide in 2008, but now we're at another election that is very contested (similar to 2004), and once again, Colorado gtets voting machines supplied by friends of the Republican Candidate.

I love conspiracy theories, they're a lot fun, seriously, but I can actually see Colorado going Red this election.
 
2012-10-11 09:29:16 AM  

SlothB77: Given recent polls, if Romney does win, let's not immediately assume it had to be voter fraud. He can definitely win this election without rigging it.


Yeah, I'm gonna say that train departed somewhere along Stole Florida in 2000, stole Ohio in 2004, and Had the Gall to Accuse ACORN of Anything in 2009.
 
2012-10-11 09:30:17 AM  

Diogenes: So many conservatives in here that are no longer concerned about the integrity of the voting process. Makes me think they aren't really serious about all those bogus voting laws they're pushing in those same swing states.


Oh we are concerned. Concerned that the dead, illegals and your welfare class will all vote many times. Seems it is your side that wants anything and anyone to vote regardless of how many times or if they legally can.
 
2012-10-11 09:30:21 AM  

Cythraul: acad1228: Setting up those excuses early, are we?Republican wins) Dems: "They stole the election!"Democrat wins) Repubs: "Damn! We lost!"

Oh yeah, that's exactly what they're going to say. They won't mention at all their blather about voting fraud which they've been trying to legislate against for the past two years.




The underlying assumption there is that cracking down on voter fraud will adversely affect Democrats more than Republicans. You're so close to figuring it out.
 
2012-10-11 09:31:11 AM  

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: 2010: Voting machine casts phantom votes, invalidating real votes

2008: Voting machines manufacturer admits their machines 'lose' votes. Ohio used them anyway.

2008: Another source for the 'lost' votes.

2007/2008: Hackers manage to hack every model of voting machine used in California

Florida 2000: Voting machine awards Bush 2813 votes and Gore negative 16022 votes in a precinct with only 585 registered voters

How to Hack a Diebold voting machine - the method used in the above Gore-Bush vote 'error' 

That's from 30 seconds of searching.


I have never trusted electronic voting machines. The systems are too easy to manipulate at a number of points. But it really doesn't make any difference anymore. I some voter precincts, such as mine, if you aren't voting Republican, there's no need to go to the polls. It's a waste of time, since you are such a small minority, your vote won't count anyway in winner-take-all states and there will never be a Democrat or independent on the ballot for local offices.
 
2012-10-11 09:31:30 AM  

Desmo: He could just be a new asshole on Fark.


Typical defensive behavior: when someone brings up an idea that threatens your own, call him names and try to run him out of town.

I see that quite a bit among liberals, and it's consistent wherever liberalism is tried, worldwide. Think it's a coincidence? After all, "correlation doesn't equal causation," they tell me.
 
2012-10-11 09:31:35 AM  

zippyZRX: Diogenes: So many conservatives in here that are no longer concerned about the integrity of the voting process. Makes me think they aren't really serious about all those bogus voting laws they're pushing in those same swing states.

Oh we are concerned. Concerned that the dead, illegals and your welfare class will all vote many times. Seems it is your side that wants anything and anyone to vote regardless of how many times or if they legally can.


Evidence, please.
 
2012-10-11 09:34:49 AM  

zippyZRX: Seems it is your side that wants anything and anyone to vote regardless of how many times or if they legally can.


Republicans think democrats are so awesome and powerful they have legions of people willing to commit federal felonies to vote for them an extra time. Democrats also control the media and all the polling through a vast conspiracy, of course.
 
2012-10-11 09:35:26 AM  

zippyZRX: Concerned that the dead, illegals and your welfare class will all vote many times. Seems it is your side that wants anything and anyone to vote regardless of how many times or if they legally can.


I always thought this article exemplified the mentality the Democrats bring to an election.
 
2012-10-11 09:35:42 AM  

lordjupiter: acad1228: Setting up those excuses early, are we?Republican wins) Dems: "They stole the election!"Democrat wins) Repubs: "Damn! We lost!"

No, more like

(Dem wins) Repubs: Voter fraud! Change all the rules! Redistrict! They're only voting for him because he's black! Dismantle the entire party and reform as "independents" with even more extreme beliefs, then run as Republicans-who-aren't-Republicans! And when you win by calling the other guy a socialist nazi muslim black panther Kenyan, do everything you can to halt the political process until the next election so you can get the black guy out of office!


I think that's a better summary.


You forgot, "He's not a real murrican, He's ineligibul"
 
2012-10-11 09:36:03 AM  

Barakku: Accusations of voting fraud seem to have zero correlation with the actual results. The only case with merit is the Florida Gore/Bush debacle, and that was an issue of horrible usability rather than rigging.


Not true. Statistically significant discrepancies between exit polling and official results are compelling evidence of error and/or fraud occurring in the counting process.

In 2004 and 2008, there were large discrepancies, universally in favor of Republicans, especially in swing states.
 
2012-10-11 09:36:10 AM  

TeddyBallGame: Normally I'm not much into conspiracy theory but I've been thinking about this for about a year. The only reason the GOP would shiat the bed like they have in the last year and remain confident is the possibility that they have figured out a way to steal the election. Just saying'.


Their dastardly plan was actually to let Obama be himself on a live debate. Seems to have worked.
 
2012-10-11 09:36:34 AM  

sodomizer: This is moonbat conspiracy theory.

The real stealing of the election: making sure that non-citizens, criminals and the dead can vote, because they all want those Democrat benefits.

Liberal parties, from the Bolsheviks to the French Revolution, have always been without honor.

This is because liberalism is a mental disease transmitted through misery.


This from someone whose sins are right there in his screen name.
 
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