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2012-10-10 08:44:54 PM  
Poor Fujita. He was just following orders like a good Oberst. I mean linebacker.
 
2012-10-11 11:08:36 AM  
"Additionally, I am now purportedly being suspended for failing to confront my former defensive coordinator for his inappropriate use of language."

What. The. F*ck?
 
2012-10-11 11:14:42 AM  

Nabb1: "Additionally, I am now purportedly being suspended for failing to confront my former defensive coordinator for his inappropriate use of language."

What. The. F*ck?


Well, since the evidence they have consists specifically of Williams' language being particularly violent (though no different from any euphemisms frequently heard in locker rooms or from journalists covering the sport), and nothing else, he is actually being suspended for listening to his defensive coordinator say scary things and not confronting him about it.
 
2012-10-11 12:29:02 PM  
Fujita has been spending most of his time during the suspension writing letters to The Consumerist.
 
2012-10-11 12:29:34 PM  
Goodell's letter reminds me of underhanded emails from bosses following a private conversation during a meeting. Everything's nice and agreeable, then they switch tone and belittle you to everyone.
 
2012-10-11 12:34:50 PM  
That's too bad, I heard his power level was over 9000!
 
2012-10-11 12:43:54 PM  
So the retirement bit was just subby's wisecrack. Pity. That dirty SOB should have sat out a year for the cheap shot he put on Steve Smith back in 2006.
 
2012-10-11 12:58:35 PM  
Now he should file an appeal based on there being alot of other players in the room for the same conversations and nothing happened to them. Maybe claim its racial. Keep turnong the screws on Roger.
 
2012-10-11 01:03:14 PM  

Nabb1: "Additionally, I am now purportedly being suspended for failing to confront my former defensive coordinator for his inappropriate use of language."

What. The. F*ck?


It almost sounds like something you would hear at the nuremberg trials.
 
2012-10-11 01:19:19 PM  
NFL locker room rhetoric is nasty. This is the same sport where "Kill the Head" is ok, but "This guy is worth $$" is not ok. "Kill the head" sounds like a 'conspiracy to commit murder'. "This guy is worth $$" sounds like an incentive. Without any evidence of payment, both statements are just locker room blah blah blah. There has never been any evidence of payment in this scandal that was made publicly available.

I'm not comfortable with 'kill the head', I would not be upset to see coaches who use this phrase suspended or warned, but that's another issue.
 
2012-10-11 01:21:04 PM  
Oh he mad.
 
2012-10-11 01:28:23 PM  
[ tornado joke goes here ]
 
2012-10-11 01:34:17 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ7ZWkxIhOg

That's all I've got to say.
 
2012-10-11 01:37:47 PM  

Rhypskallion: I'm not comfortable with 'kill the head', I would not be upset to see coaches who use this phrase suspended or warned, but that's another issue.


Yeah, the verbiage is pretty questionable, but it's not like they're going to say "Using completely legal tackling techniques within the framework of the game, hit opposing ball carriers (or quarterbacks as they're releasing the ball) hard enough that, in future plays, they are forced to think of how hard they're about to get hit and how to protect themselves, rather than focusing on the ball and making plays."

"Kill the head, the body will follow" is much more succinct.
 
2012-10-11 01:47:12 PM  

browser_snake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ7ZWkxIhOg

That's all I've got to say.


Hey Vilma gave him ten grand for that. Totally worth it.

/player safety is personal to him
 
2012-10-11 02:01:12 PM  

js34603: browser_snake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ7ZWkxIhOg

That's all I've got to say.

Hey Vilma gave him ten grand for that. Totally worth it.

/player safety is personal to him


Did you guys think that was that bad? Looked more like he actually stumbled and landed on him than anything. I didn't watch it live, but that didn't look that bad.
 
2012-10-11 02:06:04 PM  

thecpt: Did you guys think that was that bad? Looked more like he actually stumbled and landed on him than anything. I didn't watch it live, but that didn't look that bad.


Stumbling is a fiendish plot when it comes to one team. "Hot sauce," "dotting," clapping when a player's hurt, blowing out an opponent's ACL shortly after that...that doesn't even need to interrupt another team's snack-gathering patterns!
 
2012-10-11 02:16:07 PM  

IAmRight: Rhypskallion: I'm not comfortable with 'kill the head', I would not be upset to see coaches who use this phrase suspended or warned, but that's another issue.

Yeah, the verbiage is pretty questionable, but it's not like they're going to say "Using completely legal tackling techniques within the framework of the game, hit opposing ball carriers (or quarterbacks as they're releasing the ball) hard enough that, in future plays, they are forced to think of how hard they're about to get hit and how to protect themselves, rather than focusing on the ball and making plays."

"Kill the head, the body will follow" is much more succinct.


If we're talking about the quotes from before the Niners playoff game, I just want to point out that Gregg Williams said they were going to knock out like different games, and then the whole game was just Niners handing out concussions.
 
2012-10-11 02:18:49 PM  

robsul82: thecpt: Did you guys think that was that bad? Looked more like he actually stumbled and landed on him than anything. I didn't watch it live, but that didn't look that bad.

Stumbling is a fiendish plot when it comes to one team. "Hot sauce," "dotting," clapping when a player's hurt, blowing out an opponent's ACL shortly after that...that doesn't even need to interrupt another team's snack-gathering patterns!


Yeah funny how you lose the benefit of the doubt when your head coach, GM, and defensive coordinator admit to running an illegal program that rewarded defensive players for hits that forced people out of the game. So does that count as a cart off? Will he get paid for that or does it not count because he didn't kill the head?
 
2012-10-11 02:25:08 PM  

js34603: So does that count as a cart off? Will he get paid for that or does it not count because he didn't kill the head?


The defensive coordinator wasn't there yet. There's no way it ran like that for 5 years if it did happen. I'm just saying I've been hit more viciously by teammates falling down (sprained my MCL that way).
 
2012-10-11 02:30:20 PM  

js34603: Yeah funny how you lose the benefit of the doubt when your head coach, GM, and defensive coordinator admit to running an illegal program that rewarded defensive players for hits that forced people out of the game. So does that count as a cart off? Will he get paid for that or does it not count because he didn't kill the head?


Not that it EVER makes a difference, but once again, Payton and Loomis have specified their statement meant pay-for-performance bonuses, not pay-for-injury bonuses. By all means, continue whacking off to the testimony of a guy who will say anything to get reinstated and a pissed off ex-employee with an axe to grind.
 
2012-10-11 02:36:09 PM  

js34603: robsul82: thecpt: Did you guys think that was that bad? Looked more like he actually stumbled and landed on him than anything. I didn't watch it live, but that didn't look that bad.

Stumbling is a fiendish plot when it comes to one team. "Hot sauce," "dotting," clapping when a player's hurt, blowing out an opponent's ACL shortly after that...that doesn't even need to interrupt another team's snack-gathering patterns!

Yeah funny how you lose the benefit of the doubt when your head coach, GM, and defensive coordinator admit to running an illegal program that rewarded defensive players for hits that forced people out of the game. So does that count as a cart off? Will he get paid for that or does it not count because he didn't kill the head?


Damn, man, it's like you didn't even read up on any of this, did you? Even Greg Williams' own affidavit the League is using against these players says they weren't paying out for illiegal hits or intentionally trying to injure players, and that not only did they not pay out for illegal hits, but hits that drew penalties required the offending player to pay a fine into the kitty. And that's the best the league has. Are you Roger Goodell?

i2.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-11 02:36:44 PM  
Oh, WTF, that shows up correctly on my photo hosting site.
 
2012-10-11 02:42:56 PM  

Nabb1: Damn, man, it's like you didn't even read up on any of this, did you? Even Greg Williams' own affidavit the League is using against these players says they weren't paying out for illiegal hits or intentionally trying to injure players, and that not only did they not pay out for illegal hits, but hits that drew penalties required the offending player to pay a fine into the kitty. And that's the best the league has. Are you Roger Goodell?


Don't pay attention to THAT part! That part is a lie! The part about Vilma is totally true though!!!!11

Oh well. There'll always be fans of other teams to mindlessly lap up whatever Goodell's selling. That guy should focus on how overhyped Cam Newton's proving to be and not on showing off how little he's read about this bullshiat.
 
2012-10-11 02:55:36 PM  
I like how we didn't get a greenlit thread on the resuspensions. Guess no one wanted to eat their crow.

It's ok, I know I was right all along, there was never a question. As I told you idiots in the "suspensions overturned thread," it was just a matter of time to be resuspended. And again, the inevidible court filing has no chance, there is no more recourse for the players. There never was really. Just the public lying game, which any critical thinking human can see right through. These guys aren't Rhodes Scholars.

Also, based on Drew Brees insistance to put his foot in his mouth over this, I hope he gets a career ending injury, and I've never wished that upon another player. He is either one of the stupidest people on the planet, or he's being intentionally dishonest to defend his current and former teamates, and I don't know which is worse. Just someone take his dumbass out of the league like they did Warner and Favre. No one deserves it more.
 
2012-10-11 02:58:33 PM  

justtray: I like how we didn't get a greenlit thread on the resuspensions. Guess no one wanted to eat their crow.

It's ok, I know I was right all along, there was never a question. As I told you idiots in the "suspensions overturned thread," it was just a matter of time to be resuspended.


Which Saints fan didn't say "he's just gonna resuspend everyone later" after making fun of Goodell in that thread?
 
2012-10-11 03:01:13 PM  

justtray: Just someone take his dumbass out of the league like they did Warner and Favre.


Neither man retired due to the Saints game, in fact the latter played another season. And, as always, not that you ever read it, neither man has complained at all about the Saints, but please continue crying those sweet purple-and-gold tears.
 
2012-10-11 03:40:45 PM  

justtray: It's ok, I know I was right all along, there was never a question. As I told you idiots in the "suspensions overturned thread," it was just a matter of time to be resuspended.


You told us all what we already knew and had been saying all along before you showed up? Yeah, man, you sure told us.

Also, if you are butthurt about the lack of a re-suspension article green light, take it up with the admins. There were plenty of submissions. Try coming up with a decent headline next time.
 
2012-10-11 03:59:15 PM  
Scott Fujita announces his retirement. Goodell to have him replaced with soccer mom from New Jersey

I don't get it... not even close.
 
2012-10-11 04:10:08 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Scott Fujita announces his retirement. Goodell to have him replaced with soccer mom from New Jersey

I don't get it... not even close.


The implication is that discipline-happy Commissioner Roger "Joffrey Baratheon" Goodell will drop the banhammer on Fujita permanently for his insolence. Hyperbole, but sadly plausible.
 
2012-10-11 04:15:01 PM  

robsul82: justtray: Just someone take his dumbass out of the league like they did Warner and Favre.

Neither man retired due to the Saints game, in fact the latter played another season. And, as always, not that you ever read it, neither man has complained at all about the Saints, but please continue crying those sweet purple-and-gold tears.


Thing is, dude retired Warner. Warner was already pondering retirement. That guy closed the deal. He also did it with a TOTALLY LEGAL HIT.

Ya'll started the end of Favre, the Bears finished it.
 
2012-10-11 04:20:11 PM  

robsul82: justtray: Just someone take his dumbass out of the league like they did Warner and Favre.

Neither man retired due to the Saints game, in fact the latter played another season. And, as always, not that you ever read it, neither man has complained at all about the Saints, but please continue crying those sweet purple-and-gold tears.


Warner did.
 
2012-10-11 04:24:43 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Thing is, dude retired Warner. Warner was already pondering retirement. That guy closed the deal. He also did it with a TOTALLY LEGAL HIT.

Ya'll started the end of Favre, the Bears finished it.


Just saying, neither guy was "taken out of the league" by the Saints. Any bullshiat in that direction is just bitter revisionism.

/and yes, McCray's nasty hit on Kurt was totally legal
//furthermore, not that it got any coverage outside a PFT post, Warner said he thought the Pack was trying to hurt him, not the Saints

Rush Mountmore: robsul82: justtray: Just someone take his dumbass out of the league like they did Warner and Favre.

Neither man retired due to the Saints game, in fact the latter played another season. And, as always, not that you ever read it, neither man has complained at all about the Saints, but please continue crying those sweet purple-and-gold tears.

Warner did.


Warner retired after the season, not "due to the Saints game." For fark's sake, why were we making all those jokes about Warner being done before the game even started if this nonsense about the mean ol' Saints making Warner retire was true? He was "talking about retirement" and "thinking about retiring" the whole farking season. He was done anyway.
 
2012-10-11 04:26:08 PM  
I think it's a very well-written letter. Good for him.
 
2012-10-11 04:36:54 PM  

robsul82: js34603: Yeah funny how you lose the benefit of the doubt when your head coach, GM, and defensive coordinator admit to running an illegal program that rewarded defensive players for hits that forced people out of the game. So does that count as a cart off? Will he get paid for that or does it not count because he didn't kill the head?

Not that it EVER makes a difference, but once again, Payton and Loomis have specified their statement meant pay-for-performance bonuses, not pay-for-injury bonuses. By all means, continue whacking off to the testimony of a guy who will say anything to get reinstated and a pissed off ex-employee with an axe to grind.


Well OK then, as long as they said that. I mean it's not like they lied about the program completely the first time (and the second...well just how many times did they lie about it before they came clean?) they were asked right? So we can totally take their word for it that it was JUST pay for performance...which just happened to include performance that resulted in injuries I guess. Oh sorry, "cart offs". Euphemisms for the win!!

You're probably right though, I'm sure Williams and Cerullo, completely separate from each other, happened to come up with the exact same story to tell Goodell about Vilma. All in the name of their axes and reinstatement, they somehow concocted the Vilma story independently. How's that reinstatement looking anyway? He's must be getting it any day now since according to you he perjured himself.

robsul82: Nabb1: Damn, man, it's like you didn't even read up on any of this, did you? Even Greg Williams' own affidavit the League is using against these players says they weren't paying out for illiegal hits or intentionally trying to injure players, and that not only did they not pay out for illegal hits, but hits that drew penalties required the offending player to pay a fine into the kitty. And that's the best the league has. Are you Roger Goodell?

Don't pay attention to THAT part! That part is a lie! The part about Vilma is totally true though!!!!11

Oh well. There'll always be fans of other teams to mindlessly lap up whatever Goodell's selling. That guy should focus on how overhyped Cam Newton's proving to be and not on showing off how little he's read about this bullshiat.


Yes, if we semantic it enough we can make it look like they were completely innocent! They weren't paying for injuries, it was just "cart offs". They didn't have to pay into the illegal bounty kitty if the hit was illegal, as long as they got away with it they got paid though. Yes that all sounds so innocent, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with it.

I also find it hilarious that you want to cast doubt on everything because you've associated me with the Carolina Panthers and continue to act like your desire to give Drew Brees oral hasn't affected your views in this. First, because you are so desperate to find something to avoid facing the truth of how dirty your beloved Aints were that you scanned my profile and assumed I give two shiats about the Carolina Panthers because I live in NC. And, second because it is so deliciously ironic that you can say with a straight face "YOU HATE THE SAINTS YOU PANTHERS FAN THAT'S WHY YOU BELIEVE GOODELL", while simultaneously slurping your bandwagon fandom of the Saints so hard you're completely oblivious to facts.

Your team was dirty. They were breaking the rules. They got caught, lied about it, eventually admitted it, and now they're being punished. You want to cry and whine about Goodell, be my guest. You don't like the powers he has, or the lack of real appeals for the players, go for it, I agree with you, but I will say your team voted for him to have all that power, whereas mine didn't (hint: it ain't the Panthers). But get over the conspiracy theories and excuses and the pathetic grasping of straws you do in every Saints bounty thread to try to avoid reality. Either that or jump the bandwagon to a new team, I really don't care.
 
2012-10-11 04:38:09 PM  

Nabb1: Pray 4 Mojo: Scott Fujita announces his retirement. Goodell to have him replaced with soccer mom from New Jersey

I don't get it... not even close.

The implication is that discipline-happy Commissioner Roger "Joffrey Baratheon" Goodell will drop the banhammer on Fujita permanently for his insolence. Hyperbole, but sadly plausible.


Thank you.

Now I know why I didn't get it.

/it's not funny
 
2012-10-11 04:52:06 PM  

js34603: I'm sure Williams and Cerullo, completely separate from each other, happened to come up with the exact same story to tell Goodell about Vilma.


LOL, not exactly. GW claims he never handled any money, Cerullo says GW did. Their statements directly contradict each other, but no matter. Goodell doesn't care and you don't even care enough about the facts to read anything beyond a headline for your own fan-driven reasons.

js34603: Yes, if we semantic it enough we can make it look like they were completely innocent!


Semantics? Half the GW statement doesn't say what you clearly think it said, half the GW statement is untrue if Goodell's larger story is true (that there were pay-for-injury bounties), but in your ignorance you want to pretend that those things are "semantics?" Pathetic, dude.

js34603: (hint: it ain't the Panthers)


Yes, I very much believe someone living in North Carolina who in every bounty thread acts like the Saints raped his mother cares not a whit for the Panthers. OBVIOUSLY I'm a Saints fan, I've never denied it. The good thing about being a Saints fan, though, means I've actually read the statements, not just the headlines, and I know what's actually in them. However much you want to cry "semantics" and hope no one who reads the thread picks up on how blatantly obvious it is that you have no idea what GW actually said, you clearly can't say the same.
 
2012-10-11 05:25:17 PM  
Kurt Warner already took his righteous vengeance. He unleashed the Max Hall, forcing the Saints to play an away game in the Wild Card round, where the Trollhawks avenged the NFC Worst.
 
2012-10-11 05:27:35 PM  
The dubious distinction of being the only team to lose to a playoff game to a team with a losing record, no less.
 
2012-10-11 06:01:02 PM  

the1hatman: I don't believe for 1 minute the Saints are innocent as far as bounties go either. It's just that:
1. Every team in the league has/had the same thing. Been going on for years so freaking out like this was some sort of game altering event worthy of crippling a franchise for it is silly.

2. The so called "evidence" used to justify these sweeping fines and suspensions is so weak and contradictory in some places that it would be laughable if it were not so unjust.

3. That this is being used by the commissioner and the league in an attempt to show how much they really do care about player saftey just because they happen to find themselves in a landmark case over their own negligence regarding head trauma is unbelievably callous and a complete insult to those who have and continue to suffer from the league's coverup regarding this.


Well...yeah. And watch out saying #3, that's BLACK HELICOPTER CONSPIRACY THEORY talk.
 
2012-10-11 06:12:25 PM  

justtray: As I told you idiots in the "suspensions overturned thread," it was just a matter of time to be resuspended.


Not ONE person in that thread thought the suspensions wouldn't be overturned.

But you, you're a farking prophet.
 
2012-10-11 06:17:38 PM  

browser_snake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ7ZWkxIhOg

That's all I've got to say.


Youtube is filled with stuff like this - every player from every team.

God, I love football!!
 
2012-10-11 06:36:19 PM  

justtray: 1. Show me evidence of anyone else doing it. Actually, show it to the NFL. They investigated the Redskins and found none.


Two Giants players admitted targeting Kyle Williams because of his concussion history, multiple players have said they had bounties when they played. And yeah, they sure "investigated" the Redskins. I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you if you believe that.

justtray: How do two corroborating, sworn, legal statements that say Vilma offerred 10k contradict one another?


Cerullo says GW handled the money on the QB bounties. GW says he never handled money. Those are "contradictory" accounts. Just ask USA Today, which ran this story under the headline "Statement by former Saints coach contradicts Williams' declaration." Although that works against my "if you read the story, not just the headline" idea, but.

Other contradictions not having to do with the 10K offer (on Warner, then Favre, according to Cerullo, just on Favre, according to GW), as pointed out by the above linked article - "There are other inconsistencies, according to the documents: Williams says the pool was created before the season, while Cerullo says it was fed by weekly dues and fines. Williams says the alleged pay-for-perfomance program was already in place and he was asked to join, but Cerullo says Williams basically ran the program."

By all means,claim the above as "semantics."

justtray: The implication that it's somehow not fair because of trying to improve safety is not only unfounded, but stupid to boot.


Again, there's a bridge in Brooklyn waiting for your purchase if you think a potential lawsuit outcome measured in the billions had nothing to do with the unheard of penalties here, all in the name of showing how much Roger CaresTM.

justtray: I see I hurt the baby's feelings so he had to report me.


I didn't report you, and nobody who runs behind the ignore list to take potshots should be calling anyone else a baby regardless.
 
2012-10-11 07:29:07 PM  
Funny, I saw no mention of retirement in TFA.
 
2012-10-11 08:05:02 PM  
Wow, who let the intern do the graphics?

/Steve Mariucci looks nothing like Kurt Warner. Mistaking Warner for Faulk I can understand.
 
2012-10-11 08:32:39 PM  
Roger Goodell likes to claim that his actions are motivated only by player safety. If the Saints were indeed running a pay-for-injury program then you would expect that they would have incurred a lot of personal fouls. However, the statistics simply don't show this. Here is a short write-up someone else did on the subject.

Even Goodell now admits that Fujita had nothing to do with any such program. However, he's still being suspended and is having his name dragged through the mud. I hope the team owners get together and oust the commissioner so we can get back to talking about football as a sport instead of this nonsense.
 
2012-10-11 08:49:57 PM  

mikes73: Here is a short write-up someone else did on the subject.


I'd just go straight to the study in the LA Times about whether the Saints injured more people than other teams and how many flags they got, rather than Canal Street Chronicles. Cuts out a line of BS of "yeah, a Saints site, hurrrrr," they have to go right to "doesn't mean they weren't trying!" Which is great, as the absence of proof always is.
 
2012-10-12 01:41:32 AM  

teto85: Poor Fujita. He was just following orders like a good Oberst. I mean linebacker.


Exactly. What a whiny little biatch he is being, I guess if a police captain says to beat every black or hispanic they pull over he would follow without question.

When I read what he said the other day all I could think of was "fark you biatch" If you know they are intentionally trying to hurt someone and say nothing then you are just as guilty asshole.

the1hatman: I loved seeing Fujita own Goodell in his response over player saftey. Thing of beauty that is!


He didnt OWN him, he came off looking like a whiney biatch who got caught.
 
2012-10-12 01:42:30 AM  

mikes73: Here is a short write-up someone else did on the subject.


You linked to a saints blog for a write up?

I am 100% sure they are not biased at all in that blog............
 
2012-10-12 02:01:59 AM  

steamingpile: mikes73: Here is a short write-up someone else did on the subject.

You linked to a saints blog for a write up?

I am 100% sure they are not biased at all in that blog............


See, mikes73? Stick with linking the LA Times study that reached the same conclusions. That way you'll just have massive douchebags like the above either ignoring it or sputtering that that doesn't mean they weren't trying though!!!11, etc.
 
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