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(Palm Beach Post)   Problem: red light cameras can't read Florida license plates. Solution: make everyone get new plates   (palmbeachpost.com) divider line 101
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2012-10-10 08:28:44 PM  
Yeah, I read about this. We can spend $31 mill to change the license plates on every car so that cops can easier see them to give more tickets but the speed rail that was already paid for by the fed and would easily pay for itself and create $30,000 jobs would have been a waste. Thanks, Gov. Scott. Teabagger prick.
 
2012-10-10 08:36:45 PM  
Then remove the red light cameras the next year.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-10 08:40:14 PM  
We only have camera enforcement for electronic toll violations in Massachusetts. Toll authorities discovered the state issued duplicate license plate numbers and the computer had to also check whether it was a commercial or passenger plate and make other surprising distinctions. As they discover oddities they teach the computer to try to do the right thing. There are no plans to reissue plates because (1) ticketing the wrong person is not perceived as a serious problem, (2) people here are really really attached to old plates and taking away faded green status symbols could easily tip a close election.
 
2012-10-10 09:51:14 PM  
"No pendulous oranges or dangling Florida peninsulas getting in the way of the money shot."

What's this guy's Fark handle?
 
2012-10-10 09:55:19 PM  
That's one thing they didn't try on Mythbusters...
 
2012-10-10 10:20:15 PM  
Governor Voldemart can kiss my ass.
 
2012-10-10 10:22:44 PM  
Even the cameras in Florida can't read!
 
2012-10-10 10:29:13 PM  
So which genius decided to buy all those cameras without knowing if they'd actually work on Florida plates? Do these cameras have no money-back guarantee from the manufacturer?
 
2012-10-10 10:30:52 PM  

Mugato: Yeah, I read about this. We can spend $31 mill to change the license plates on every car so that cops can easier see them to give more tickets but the speed rail that was already paid for by the fed and would easily pay for itself and create $30,000 jobs would have been a waste. Thanks, Gov. Scott. Teabagger prick.


Farking THIS!!!


dstanley: "No pendulous oranges or dangling Florida peninsulas getting in the way of the money shot."

What's this guy's Fark handle?


Typically I can't stand Cerabino, but for once the guy has a point on the whole matter.
 
2012-10-10 10:33:47 PM  
One would think that would be a major portion of the testing stage.
 
2012-10-10 10:39:05 PM  
Why do I feel no compassion for people in that big a rush to get nowhere?
 
2012-10-10 10:39:57 PM  

WordyGrrl: So which genius decided to buy all those cameras without knowing if they'd actually work on Florida plates? Do these cameras have no money-back guarantee from the manufacturer?


City councilfolk. They're pretty good marks. They generally repeat ATS's sales pitch to their constituents, like the proles have a say in the matter
 
2012-10-10 10:42:32 PM  
Ugh, just qr code everything and be done with it.
 
2012-10-10 10:43:31 PM  

URAPNIS: One would think that would be a major portion of the testing stage.


Testing is for people who make mistakes. Losers.
 
2012-10-10 10:44:52 PM  

BeSerious: Why do I feel no compassion for people in that big a rush to get nowhere?


Cause you're old and retired and no one visits and there's nothing to do.
 
2012-10-10 10:47:17 PM  

BeSerious: Why do I feel no compassion for people in that big a rush to get nowhere?


Because those pesky trees keep getting in the way of your view of the forest.
 
2012-10-10 10:48:01 PM  
"The cafeteria staff is complaining about the mice in the kitchen. I want to hire a new staff. "

/this story reminded me of this line for some reason
 
2012-10-10 10:49:02 PM  
Dibs on ODO0D0 or KXXKKXX
 
2012-10-10 10:52:56 PM  
The worst part is that the state has made a deal with the private company who provides the cameras to take in a certain amount per year for the next several years. Any amount under that is paid out of the general fund.

I'm surprised that Tempe, Arizona-based American Traffic Solution's buildings haven't been burned to the ground yet.
 
2012-10-10 10:55:38 PM  

WordyGrrl: So which genius decided to buy all those cameras without knowing if they'd actually work on Florida plates? Do these cameras have no money-back guarantee from the manufacturer?


I believe in most cases these camera ticketing systems are offered up to the municipalities at no cost. There is probably a healthy "maintenance" fee built in, with the ticket revenue being split. So in the case mentioned in the article, they need 10 tickets a month to cover the costs and get a check.
 
2012-10-10 10:56:20 PM  

dstanley: No pendulous oranges or dangling Florida peninsulas


So no more

www.allfunpix.com
 
2012-10-10 10:58:19 PM  
Oblig:

www.fugly.com
 
2012-10-10 10:59:10 PM  
How much money do they think they're going to make off these cameras? If you invested that $31 million, even at only 3% return you'd be making close to a million a year.
 
2012-10-10 10:59:15 PM  

Mugato: Yeah, I read about this. We can spend $31 mill to change the license plates on every car so that cops can easier see them to give more tickets but the speed rail that was already paid for by the fed and would easily pay for itself and create $30,000 jobs would have been a waste. Thanks, Gov. Scott. Teabagger prick.


Nobody would have rode the speed rail. We're not New England. Nearly every mass transit project involving rails in Florida have lost money.
 
2012-10-10 10:59:40 PM  
Ah, here come the speeders and red-light violators to complain about being caught.
 
2012-10-10 10:59:48 PM  

BeSerious: Why do I feel no compassion for people in that big a rush to get nowhere?



It's not necessarily about a rush. Sitting at red lights wastes gasoline. Red lights are a pointless waste of fuel and increase unnecessary pollution.

The solution is not to try to catch more offenders. The solution is to reduce the likelihood of people offending. This can be done by a very small increase in the yellow light duration (as proven by multiple studies). It can also be done by increased light synchronization, creating better traffic flow.

Politicians are so focused on solving one issue that they never stop to realize that the "problem" may simply be a symptom of the real issue.

It's like gun control:

Problem?: People are killing each other with guns.
Solution?: Ban guns.

New Problem: People are killing each other with knives.
Solution?: Ban knives.

New Problem2: People are killing each other with pillows.
Solution?: Ban pillows.


Nobody ever stopped to question the real problem: Why are people so intent on killing each other? (Probably because of road rage over red lights...)
 
2012-10-10 11:03:53 PM  
Redlight cameras don't stop accidents. In order to prevent the type of accidents that red-light cameras are designed to catch, the offender running the green-to-yellow-to-red light would have to be t-boned by someone running a red light before it turns green.
 
2012-10-10 11:09:40 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Redlight cameras don't stop accidents. In order to prevent the type of accidents that red-light cameras are designed to catch, the offender running the green-to-yellow-to-red light would have to be t-boned by someone running a red light before it turns green.



I don't know about that. I've seen a red light camera flash, while sitting in the turn late, when some idiot ran a red light long after traffic had been flowing the other way. Luckily, only a couple of cars had been there, and they were already gone before the idiot blew through the intersection.
 
2012-10-10 11:15:07 PM  

BeSerious: Why do I feel no compassion for people in that big a rush to get nowhere?


Because your soul died after the transistor radio was introduced.
 
2012-10-10 11:23:29 PM  

TOSViolation: I don't know about that. I've seen a red light camera flash, while sitting in the turn late, when some idiot ran a red light long after traffic had been flowing the other way. Luckily, only a couple of cars had been there, and they were already gone before the idiot blew through the intersection.


Lot of good that camera did to stop that from happening.
 
2012-10-10 11:25:23 PM  
members.chello.cz
 
2012-10-10 11:33:24 PM  

Mugato: Yeah, I read about this. We can spend $31 mill to change the license plates on every car so that cops can easier see them to give more tickets but the speed rail that was already paid for by the fed and would easily pay for itself and create $30,000 jobs would have been a waste. Thanks, Gov. Scott. Teabagger prick.


No, the train was not paid for. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
2012-10-10 11:33:32 PM  

Ryker's Peninsula: Even the cameras in Florida can't read!


Heh.
 
2012-10-10 11:36:04 PM  
kmoser, thanks for saving me the time to GIS one of those up.
 
2012-10-10 11:39:26 PM  
I'll be darned. Here in Georgia they made a big fuss about the gorgeous new license plates and when I saw one I noticed it was 100% flat and thought "license plates, no matter what the design, look like total shiat without raised lettering."

Now I know why
 
2012-10-10 11:42:55 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Dibs on ODO0D0 or KXXKKXX


Don't forget 1111IIII
 
2012-10-10 11:43:24 PM  
To hell with red light cameras. Around here people are pretty reasonable with traffic lights. But stop signs? Everyone rolls through them. Everyone. It's the worst with right hand turns, but it's prolific at every stop sign for traffic going in any direction. Maybe I'm getting old, in fact I'm sure I am, but it bugs me.

It also bugs me that I'm as guilty as everyone else.
 
2012-10-10 11:47:36 PM  
They tried forcing us up in New York to switch plates early, claiming that the cameras in cop cars couldn't read the plates. The police basically said it was hooey. The state was going to make a ton, not on tickets, but on charging people to renew their plates a couple years earlier than the normal expiration. If the cameras really can't read the plates, with the price per ticket the state would hire someone to manually read it. This sounds awfully fishy.
 
2012-10-10 11:53:38 PM  
The lack of contrast on my National Weather Center tag makes it unreadable at greater than 15 feet or so. That's the main reason I got it. 
i89.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-11 12:00:58 AM  

KidneyStone: I'll be darned. Here in Georgia they made a big fuss about the gorgeous new license plates and when I saw one I noticed it was 100% flat and thought "license plates, no matter what the design, look like total shiat without raised lettering."

Now I know why


The orange does look like a peach when it is dirty.

/How you been Bro?
 
2012-10-11 12:02:27 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: TOSViolation: I don't know about that. I've seen a red light camera flash, while sitting in the turn late, when some idiot ran a red light long after traffic had been flowing the other way. Luckily, only a couple of cars had been there, and they were already gone before the idiot blew through the intersection.

Lot of good that camera did to stop that from happening.



I said, in an earlier post, that red light cameras don't address the problem. They only address a symptom. It's like finding a cure for cancer. It's more profitable to just treat the symptoms.
 
2012-10-11 12:09:03 AM  
Funny in my town the "Safety Patrol" added 4 cameras to generate 2 million dollars in 6 months (for your safety) my own sister got popped 3-4 times by them, rolling stop signs, or right hand turns.

I live in the boondocks, far from any bs cameras to trap me, even if I do 100 down my road.
 
2012-10-11 12:15:31 AM  

ghostofreasonpast: Mugato: Yeah, I read about this. We can spend $31 mill to change the license plates on every car so that cops can easier see them to give more tickets but the speed rail that was already paid for by the fed and would easily pay for itself and create $30,000 jobs would have been a waste. Thanks, Gov. Scott. Teabagger prick.

Nobody would have rode the speed rail. We're not New England. Nearly every mass transit project involving rails in Florida have lost money.


I guess it depends on which one you're looking at. Originally, it was to be a tri-city high-speed rail system linking Tampa, Orlando and Miami. Then it was an Orlando intracity rail system, then became a link from the airport directly to the Interstate Ave. tourist zone, then was scrapped. It was revived, then scrapped again, and I think once more, each time with lowered goals. It started off as a great idea, and quickly turned into a pile of crap. Typical for Florida.
 
2012-10-11 12:19:48 AM  

Misconduc: Funny in my town the "Safety Patrol" added 4 cameras to generate 2 million dollars in 6 months (for your safety) my own sister got popped 3-4 times by them, rolling stop signs, or right hand turns.

I live in the boondocks, far from any bs cameras to trap me, even if I do 100 down my road.


In all fairness, we've all popped your sister 3 or 4 times
 
2012-10-11 12:25:30 AM  

Ryker's Peninsula: Even the cameras in Florida can't read!


i877.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-11 12:27:50 AM  
The traffic camera paradox:

When they succeed in preventing accidents, they fail in generating revenue.

When they succeed in generating revenue, they are failing to prevent accidents.
 
2012-10-11 12:27:57 AM  
What do you know, the state that ruined America in 2000 is ruining their own state, who woulda guessed...
 
2012-10-11 12:29:05 AM  
Protip: If you don't want to get a ticket from a red-light camera, then DON'T DRIVE THROUGH A FARKING RED LIGHT. A novel concept, I know, but too much for most of you to handle.
 
2012-10-11 12:29:21 AM  

Mugato: Yeah, I read about this. We can spend $31 mill to change the license plates on every car so that cops can easier see them to give more tickets but the speed rail that was already paid for by the fed and would easily pay for itself and create $30,000 jobs would have been a waste. Thanks, Gov. Scott. Teabagger prick.


Yeah but now prisoners can make something else.
 
2012-10-11 12:29:49 AM  
Hehehe. Just wait until those red light cameras are upgraded to speed cameras! We have them here. "Oh, yellow light" (accelerates to make it through) *FLASH* "sonnofabiatch!". Hillarious.
 
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