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2012-10-10 05:29:09 PM
saw that this morning. what an asshole. these guys have no legs to stand on.
 
2012-10-10 06:50:19 PM
Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.
 
2012-10-10 06:54:32 PM
Being in Congress must be really awesome.

As Jon Stewart once said, "you get the fun of breaking shiat and the joy of complaining the shiat you just broke doesn't work."
 
2012-10-10 06:59:05 PM
These people just amaze me in how shameless they are. They don't seem to care if they lie even if it is known widely (except the hard core ideologues who either know it and don't care or are too deep into the ideology to acknowledge reality or the low info voters [to whom the lies and hypocrisy are really aimed as they won't pay attention long enough to learn that the statements are lies]). They don't seem to care if their hypocrisy is outrageous.

"Yeah, I know I'm a lying hypocrite. Whadda ya gonna do about it?" Democrats and media: *crickets chirping*
 
2012-10-10 07:01:47 PM
At least he's honest
 
2012-10-10 07:07:46 PM

James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.


Why is this?
 
2012-10-10 07:08:58 PM
Christ, what an asshole

/the new GOP slogan
 
2012-10-10 07:14:23 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Why is this?


Because the media has been successfully cowed by bullshiat cries of bias and the Democrats are afraid to play hardball. Hardball to them being pointing out that the opposing party is rampant with hateful lying dickweasels.
 
2012-10-10 07:14:26 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.

Why is this?


Because people will say to the Democrats, "Why didn't you stop them?!" And the Democrats will get the blame.
 
2012-10-10 07:18:51 PM

James F. Campbell: thismomentinblackhistory: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.

Why is this?

Because people will say to the Democrats, "Why didn't you stop them?!" And the Democrats will get the blame.


And because every major media entity is either owned by the GOP or too scared to do anything but repeat their lies for fear of losing market share. Why they think you lose viewers by telling the truth, I have no idea.
 
2012-10-10 07:18:59 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.

Why is this?


Not to threadjack, but you have one of the best farkies ever.

"Why does Kirk Cameron keep asking this reporter out on a date?"
 
2012-10-10 07:20:05 PM
[ElephantSmashesVaseCartoon.jpg]
 
2012-10-10 07:21:13 PM
If you support these people, you are a worthless sack.
 
2012-10-10 07:38:28 PM
Hillary Clinton needs to show up at the House and tear this guy 12 new assholes.
 
2012-10-10 07:46:55 PM

Mentat: Hillary Clinton needs to show up at the House and tear this guy 12 new assholes.


Oh, yes, please this! You are very correct. This needs to happen. I would so love to watch this.
 
2012-10-10 07:51:02 PM
The asshole family value pro life adulterer doctor/congressman that made his patient/mistress get an abortion is biatching about this on his Facebook page. Several people are saying he voted to defund security, but I can't find a link to verify it.
 
2012-10-10 08:03:03 PM
Retards.
We let them vote.
 
2012-10-10 08:06:05 PM

WorldCitizen: Mentat: Hillary Clinton needs to show up at the House and tear this guy 12 new assholes.

Oh, yes, please this! You are very correct. This needs to happen. I would so love to watch this.


And then the Palin / Bachmann tag team come running down the aisle with their theme music playing, only to be defeated by a door failing to open inwards with a sign in plain english reading "PUSH".
 
2012-10-10 08:06:53 PM
Yeah, because we know Obama never spends money that he doesn't have.
 
2012-10-10 08:06:56 PM
And then things get real serious when Biden starts climbing a ladder with a medal foldup chair in one hand.
 
2012-10-10 08:07:17 PM
But this is Obama's 9/11!

9/11!!!

/9/11
 
2012-10-10 08:07:25 PM
Government.

As an American voter, whachoo gonna do?

/i'm sick of the games
 
2012-10-10 08:08:35 PM
Nov 19 2012: Watch as all these special particular certain loudmouth republicans(domestic terrorists) get rounded up and given a proper burial at deep sea with their hero Osama Bin Laden. As per U.S. anti-terrorism laws.

/slug to the face optional(slithering slimer is so kinky)
//Please sign the petition to restore the 'truth in newscast laws'.
 
2012-10-10 08:08:39 PM
Jason Chaffetz = attention-whore.jpg
 
2012-10-10 08:08:40 PM

FlashHarry: saw that this morning. what an asshole. these guys have no legs to stand on.


Hey, the GOP wouldn't HAVE to cut the security budget for those hoity-toity diplomats if Obama weren't in office.

Get a brain morans!
 
2012-10-10 08:08:51 PM

Via Infinito: thismomentinblackhistory: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.

Why is this?

Not to threadjack, but you have one of the best farkies ever.

"Why does Kirk Cameron keep asking this reporter out on a date?"


Answer: we had 9x the people at the Toledo fark party than he had at his birthday party :)
 
2012-10-10 08:09:30 PM
So no one cares that specific security requests, which Republicans have no say in, were turned down for Libya? No one upset that the whole start of the attack was lied about by this administration?

Is it really the Republicans fault that the ambassador's security detail in Libya was smaller than security details that some members of the state department have stateside?
 
2012-10-10 08:10:01 PM

Calmamity: thismomentinblackhistory: Why is this?

Because the media has been successfully cowed by bullshiat cries of bias and the Democrats are afraid to play hardball. Hardball to them being pointing out that the opposing party is rampant with hateful lying dickweasels.


There are too few on the Democrat side that are willing to call the Republicans on their f*ckery. We had Rep. Weiner, and he got DQ'ed for showing his junk to his mistress.
 
2012-10-10 08:10:17 PM
Well at least we're all still comfortable making political hay out of American deaths when it's convenient to our interests.
 
2012-10-10 08:11:19 PM

sheep snorter: Nov 19 2012: Watch as all these special particular certain loudmouth republicans(domestic terrorists) get rounded up and given a proper burial at deep sea with their hero Osama Bin Laden. As per U.S. anti-terrorism laws.

/slug to the face optional(slithering slimer is so kinky)
//Please sign the petition to restore the 'truth in newscast laws'.


I bet you think you're reality based and a moderate.

I like the advocacy of pogroms. Nice touch.
 
2012-10-10 08:11:27 PM
It's false equivalency.

Just because I want my wife to spend less money doesn't mean I can't complain when she doesn't buy groceries.
 
2012-10-10 08:11:37 PM

Via Infinito: Being in Congress must be really awesome.

As Jon Stewart once said, "you get the fun of breaking shiat and the joy of complaining the shiat you just broke doesn't work."


Eternal 5 year old brats.
 
2012-10-10 08:11:37 PM
The vote was to reduce funding for the year 2013. Last time I checked, we're not there yet. So....Jesus, libs are terrible.
 
2012-10-10 08:11:45 PM

Summoner101: Well at least we're all still comfortable making political hay out of American deaths when it's convenient to our interests.


Also this.
 
2012-10-10 08:12:27 PM

St Andrew: It's false equivalency.

Just because I want my wife to spend less money doesn't mean I can't complain when she doesn't buy groceries.


Nope, clearly you hate your wife.
 
2012-10-10 08:12:27 PM

Summoner101: Well at least we're all still comfortable making political hay out of American deaths when it's convenient to our interests.


Stick with what works right?:

images2.dailykos.com
 
2012-10-10 08:12:30 PM
What the fark. Seriously.
 
2012-10-10 08:12:35 PM
Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.
 
2012-10-10 08:13:24 PM

Mrbogey: So no one cares that specific security requests, which Republicans have no say in, were turned down for Libya? No one upset that the whole start of the attack was lied about by this administration?


Never ascribe to malice that which incompetency will explain.
 
2012-10-10 08:15:28 PM
Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful
 
2012-10-10 08:15:30 PM
This would be relevant if the reason for the lack of security was a staff or resource shortage due to funding. But it had nothing to do with that. Rather--it was because the gatekeeper for such appeals (Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Programs Charlene Lamb, and backed by her superiors assistant secretary of State for diplomatic security Eric Boswell and the principal deputy assistant secretary for diplomatic security and director of the Diplomatic Security Service Scott P. Bultrowic) wanted to keep the U.S. security presence "artificially low," to promote the idea that Libya was stabilizing and safer.

Pretty lame attempt to try and dump this mess in the GOP's lap...
 
2012-10-10 08:16:23 PM

Richard Saunders: Government.

As an American voter, whachoo gonna do?

/i'm sick of the games


Either vote for the guy that said he'd cure cancer and failed, or vote for cancer.
 
2012-10-10 08:16:56 PM

James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.



That's pretty much it. Romney enacted an assault weapons ban in Massachusettes. Obama allowed more concealed carry access. Guess who the NRA is endorsing.
 
2012-10-10 08:17:42 PM
So the Obama administration and State Department (same thing) totally botch this whole thing...and it's the republican's fault? Sounds legit.
 
2012-10-10 08:17:52 PM
We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad.

So, still managed to blame Obama. I'm sure Chaffetz and Issa voted against President Obama's plan to invade Iraq in 2003.

fark you, GOP assholes.
 
2012-10-10 08:19:30 PM
This entire argument hinges on a simple question: Did they provide enough of a budget for the embassy to have more security than it did on the day of the attacks?
 
2012-10-10 08:21:14 PM
I just got my ballot in the mail. Rosanne Barr is on there.

Seems as good as any on the list this time.
 
2012-10-10 08:21:48 PM
Here's the biggest secret of the whole election political fracas:

The republickans have been manipulating the whole thang since for-EVER b/c dough.

Quit eating the pies, i.e. lies, e.g. lies.

Money has NEVER been your friend.

Wasn't then; wasn't now.

Never will be.

People, however, will scramble until there is no air left to breathe, so climb upon the mountains, and ride...

*)
 
2012-10-10 08:22:06 PM

Peter von Nostrand: At least he's honest


If this blows up, I expect they'll be putting (D) next to his name on FOX News.

At least he's honest, instead of trying to blame Obama like everyone else is doing.

Oh, wait, he tried to assign some blame to Obama.

Nevermind.
 
2012-10-10 08:22:08 PM
We're ignoring that the request was to bring the security detail to about five, and there were five security personnel present at the time of the attack, right?
 
2012-10-10 08:22:44 PM

Abox: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.


That's pretty much it. Romney enacted an assault weapons ban in Massachusettes. Obama allowed more concealed carry access. Guess who the NRA is endorsing.


Reality doesn't seem to matter anymore.
 
2012-10-10 08:23:10 PM

GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful


Would extra security have stopped guys with rocket launchers?
Nope.
 
2012-10-10 08:24:22 PM

Cpl.D: WorldCitizen: Mentat: Hillary Clinton needs to show up at the House and tear this guy 12 new assholes.

Oh, yes, please this! You are very correct. This needs to happen. I would so love to watch this.

And then the Palin / Bachmann tag team come running down the aisle with their theme music playing, only to be defeated by a door failing to open inwards with a sign in plain english reading "PUSH".


HA!
 
2012-10-10 08:24:27 PM
Obama got a bum deal, and you know it or made it, jackhats...

*)
 
2012-10-10 08:24:27 PM

Summercat: What the fark. Seriously.


Indeed. So much.

Hey, America, here's your "should I vote" litmus test.

If you've ever called in a vote to American Idol, Dancing With the Stars, or watched Honey Boo Boo... consider yourself too damn stupid, your voting rights revoked.

Grown ups will take care of you.
 
2012-10-10 08:25:09 PM

ifarkthereforiam: Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.



You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.
 
2012-10-10 08:25:42 PM
You know the difference between congress and the students of that "special" school down the road? Neither do I.
 
2012-10-10 08:26:15 PM

GORDON: Yeah, because we know Obama never spends money that he doesn't have Congress doesn't authorize.


FTFY
 
2012-10-10 08:26:28 PM
All I saw in the article is that the GOP reduced the requested funding, not what the absolute figures turned out to be. Was that money in fact essential or was it like cutting the bottom four toys off a kid's list of a hundred things he'd like from Santa? Indulging every agency's fantasy budget is a great path to huge deficits, which Democrats used to claim would be a bad thing when a Republican was in the White House.
 
2012-10-10 08:26:56 PM
Yeah, they only allocated $1.934 billion out of the $2.15billion the Obama administration was asking for.

I mean, how in the world could the State Department find any money at all to spend in Libya when they only have a little less than $2 billion to spend, total?
 
2012-10-10 08:27:07 PM

Shaggy_C: This entire argument hinges on a simple question: Did they provide enough of a budget for the embassy to have more security than it did on the day of the attacks?


Seeing as State Department funding is up nearly 40% since 2009....

2012 - 53.4 Billion
2009 - 38.3 Billion

I'm sure the extra 1.5 billion they requested would have saved Stevens.
 
2012-10-10 08:27:18 PM

Lando Lincoln: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

Would extra security have stopped guys with rocket launchers?
Nope.


Probably not.

But I will say, even though this seems like a legitimate complaint, it's hard to take the GOP seriously over it.

They've cried wolf too many damn times that it's hard to take them seriously when they do have a legitimate complaint. 

That being said, how much more security do the Republicans think was needed to prevent something like this from happening?
 
2012-10-10 08:27:49 PM

Cpl.D: And then things get real serious when Biden starts climbing a ladder with a medal foldup chair in one hand.


Will you marry me? I mean, as soon as I get this goddam soda off my desk and monitor??
 
ecl
2012-10-10 08:27:55 PM

BravadoGT: This would be relevant if the reason for the lack of security was a staff or resource shortage due to funding. But it had nothing to do with that. Rather--it was because the gatekeeper for such appeals (Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Programs Charlene Lamb, and backed by her superiors assistant secretary of State for diplomatic security Eric Boswell and the principal deputy assistant secretary for diplomatic security and director of the Diplomatic Security Service Scott P. Bultrowic) wanted to keep the U.S. security presence "artificially low," to promote the idea that Libya was stabilizing and safer.

Pretty lame attempt to try and dump this mess in the GOP's lap...


Those three have alot of credentials and aren't all D's or R's. People need to stop trying to toss the blame around. That includes you BravoGT.
 
2012-10-10 08:27:56 PM
profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2012-10-10 08:28:16 PM
thismomentinblackhistory
Why is this?

Because Big Money has convinced a critical mass of people that a representative government can do no good, and that if we destroy it, a golden age of liberty and freedom will ensue.
 
2012-10-10 08:28:21 PM
And yet, Romney has a chance of winning.

/Americans
//You need to up your ante
 
2012-10-10 08:28:28 PM

GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful


Some times we have to protect our diplomatic missions with the security guards we have and not the ones we want.
 
2012-10-10 08:28:39 PM

jjorsett: Indulging every agency's fantasy budget is a great path to huge deficits, which Democrats used to claim would be a bad thing when a Republican was in the White House.


Exactly.

You just have to look at the GOP's desire to fund every pet project by the Defense Department and their contractors to see what a massive drain that is on our budget.
 
2012-10-10 08:28:42 PM

Lando Lincoln: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

Would extra security have stopped guys with rocket launchers?
Nope.


Probably not, but that's not the point and you know it.
/people on here are every bit as duplicitous as their proclaimed "enemies"
 
2012-10-10 08:29:27 PM

Satanic_Hamster: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

Some times we have to protect our diplomatic missions with the security guards we have and not the ones we want.


*slow clap*
 
2012-10-10 08:29:49 PM

free cell from obama: ifarkthereforiam: Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.


You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.


Was it actual intelligence, or was it the sort of intelligence that led Don Rumsfeld to famously say that the WMD were north, south, east, and west of Baghdad?

And yes, that is a serious question. You people need to come to grips with the fact that nobody buys you bullshiat anymore, especially, MOST especially in foreign policy and defense.
 
2012-10-10 08:30:04 PM

Mrtraveler01: But I will say, even though this seems like a legitimate complaint, it's hard to take the GOP seriously over it.


Sure, it's a legitimate complaint. But their outrage is, as usual, way way overblown to the situation at hand, and it's pathetically obvious that they are mostly outraged for political reasons. So their yammering about this topic is just more noise.
 
2012-10-10 08:30:14 PM
I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I aint got the patience for another troll alt.
 
2012-10-10 08:30:42 PM

CygnusDarius: And yet, Romney has a chance of winning.

/Americans
//You need to up your ante


If he does win, he's sacrificing the whole country to Molech.
 
ecl
2012-10-10 08:31:05 PM

Mrtraveler01: Lando Lincoln: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

Would extra security have stopped guys with rocket launchers?
Nope.

Probably not.

But I will say, even though this seems like a legitimate complaint, it's hard to take the GOP seriously over it.

They've cried wolf too many damn times that it's hard to take them seriously when they do have a legitimate complaint. 

That being said, how much more security do the Republicans think was needed to prevent something like this from happening?


Why don't the embassies have tanks?
 
2012-10-10 08:31:40 PM

Lando Lincoln: Mrtraveler01: But I will say, even though this seems like a legitimate complaint, it's hard to take the GOP seriously over it.

Sure, it's a legitimate complaint. But their outrage is, as usual, way way overblown to the situation at hand, and it's pathetically obvious that they are mostly outraged for political reasons. So their yammering about this topic is just more noise.


I have the same feeling.

To think that this would be enough to make me vote for Mitt "I'm going to use our military to fight Israel's battles for them" Romney is laughable.
 
2012-10-10 08:31:43 PM
The echo chamber spins on. If this last piece of liberal shiat doesn't stick to the wall, they're going full derp nuclear weapons grade stupid: It's Dubya's fault. That's the ticket.

Heather Locklear is my wife.

Yea.

Shameful.
 
2012-10-10 08:32:39 PM

ecl: Mrtraveler01: Lando Lincoln: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

Would extra security have stopped guys with rocket launchers?
Nope.

Probably not.

But I will say, even though this seems like a legitimate complaint, it's hard to take the GOP seriously over it.

They've cried wolf too many damn times that it's hard to take them seriously when they do have a legitimate complaint. 

That being said, how much more security do the Republicans think was needed to prevent something like this from happening?

Why don't the embassies have tanks?


There is no embassy in BenGahzi.
 
2012-10-10 08:33:13 PM

free cell from obama: You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.


Account created: 2012-09-30 10:57:53

So which one are you?
 
2012-10-10 08:34:07 PM

MisterTweak: Cpl.D: And then things get real serious when Biden starts climbing a ladder with a medal foldup chair in one hand.

Will you marry me? I mean, as soon as I get this goddam soda off my desk and monitor??


I'm still kind of bummed I somehow managed to misspell "metal fold-up chair". Hell.
 
2012-10-10 08:34:23 PM

ecl: BravadoGT: This would be relevant if the reason for the lack of security was a staff or resource shortage due to funding. But it had nothing to do with that. Rather--it was because the gatekeeper for such appeals (Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Programs Charlene Lamb, and backed by her superiors assistant secretary of State for diplomatic security Eric Boswell and the principal deputy assistant secretary for diplomatic security and director of the Diplomatic Security Service Scott P. Bultrowic) wanted to keep the U.S. security presence "artificially low," to promote the idea that Libya was stabilizing and safer.

Pretty lame attempt to try and dump this mess in the GOP's lap...

Those three have alot of credentials and aren't all D's or R's. People need to stop trying to toss the blame around. That includes you BravoGT.


I didn't assign any blame to anyone--I only challenged the false notion that this incident had anything to do with Republicans and their votes on embassy security funding.
 
2012-10-10 08:34:48 PM

FunkOut: CygnusDarius: And yet, Romney has a chance of winning.

/Americans
//You need to up your ante

If he does win, he's sacrificing the whole country to Molech.


Just the country? Whatever happens at the US reverberates in the whole world. Plus, you have nukes.
 
2012-10-10 08:35:16 PM
free cell from obama 2012-10-10 08:25:09 PM

(blart)

My my my, what a shockingly original and creative username.
 
2012-10-10 08:36:17 PM

free cell from obama: ifarkthereforiam: Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.


You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.


You know how I know that you aren't worth listening to?
 
2012-10-10 08:36:24 PM
The Benghazi murders are the result of incompetent leadership on the part of Obama.

NOT federal funding.
NOT some stupid YouTube video.
INCOMPETENCE
 
2012-10-10 08:36:38 PM
Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.

They are both fine with taking public money to enrich the elite regardless of which party they are donating to. It's a joke that people think they are mutually exclusive. They agree on turning public wealth (taxes) into private wealth (kickbacks to their richest donors). They agree on policing the public and diminishing civil liberties under the guise of national security.

D and R are like 2 ends of a teeter totter. the people furthest from the center scream the loudest and jump up and down just to keep the majority of people near the middle off balance and confused. And it works for all you sheep who think either party has your best interests in mind.
 
2012-10-10 08:36:40 PM

MFAWG: free cell from obama: ifarkthereforiam: Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.


You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.

Was it actual intelligence, or was it the sort of intelligence that led Don Rumsfeld to famously say that the WMD were north, south, east, and west of Baghdad?

And yes, that is a serious question. You people need to come to grips with the fact that nobody buys you bullshiat anymore, especially, MOST especially in foreign policy and defense.



Please, please, please enlighten us with your credentials in intelligence study. Even the old media is questioning the lie. I know you have to be at the gym in 26 minutes but a smart guy like you should be able to explain how you know much more than the rest of us mortals.
 
2012-10-10 08:37:23 PM

Peter von Nostrand: At least he's honest


It's hard to find an honest hypocrite.
 
2012-10-10 08:37:34 PM

vudukungfu: Retards.
We let them vote.



This.

We've different lives, different experiences, different perspectives.

I don't care what our differences might be.

Don't be stupid when one enters the polling place.

I hate what the information age has done to both the public and our leaders.
 
2012-10-10 08:37:37 PM

Kittypie070: free cell from obama 2012-10-10 08:25:09 PM

(blart)

My my my, what a shockingly original and creative username.


Tell me about it. Like I need to get Freecell from Obama. Windows comes with it already with a default install.
 
2012-10-10 08:38:13 PM

Dwindle: The Benghazi murders are the result of incompetent leadership on the part of Obama.

NOT federal funding.
NOT some stupid YouTube video.
INCOMPETENCE


you know i thought they were the result of bad guys shooting and launching explosives at our guys. i'd blame them first.
 
2012-10-10 08:38:32 PM

SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.

They are both fine with taking public money to enrich the elite regardless of which party they are donating to. It's a joke that people think they are mutually exclusive. They agree on turning public wealth (taxes) into private wealth (kickbacks to their richest donors). They agree on policing the public and diminishing civil liberties under the guise of national security.

D and R are like 2 ends of a teeter totter. the people furthest from the center scream the loudest and jump up and down just to keep the majority of people near the middle off balance and confused. And it works for all you sheep who think either party has your best interests in mind.


By your own definition you are off balance and confused btw.
 
2012-10-10 08:38:37 PM

CygnusDarius: And yet, Romney has a chance of winning.

/Americans
//You need to up your ante


To what my dear friend? Your own countries issues make ours seem like low level noise sometimes. Why don't you up your ante and get a government that isn't bought by drug cartels?
 
2012-10-10 08:39:29 PM

MyRandomName: Seeing as State Department funding is up nearly 40% since 2009....

2012 - 53.4 Billion
2009 - 38.3 Billion

I'm sure the extra 1.5 billion they requested would have saved Stevens.


So this is all Obama's fault
 
2012-10-10 08:40:50 PM

MFAWG: ecl: Mrtraveler01: Lando Lincoln: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

Would extra security have stopped guys with rocket launchers?
Nope.

Probably not.

But I will say, even though this seems like a legitimate complaint, it's hard to take the GOP seriously over it.

They've cried wolf too many damn times that it's hard to take them seriously when they do have a legitimate complaint. 

That being said, how much more security do the Republicans think was needed to prevent something like this from happening?

Why don't the embassies have tanks?

There is no embassy in BenGahzi.


No, just a dead ambassador and 3 other patriots. Moron.
 
2012-10-10 08:41:06 PM

Tigger: SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.

They are both fine with taking public money to enrich the elite regardless of which party they are donating to. It's a joke that people think they are mutually exclusive. They agree on turning public wealth (taxes) into private wealth (kickbacks to their richest donors). They agree on policing the public and diminishing civil liberties under the guise of national security.

D and R are like 2 ends of a teeter totter. the people furthest from the center scream the loudest and jump up and down just to keep the majority of people near the middle off balance and confused. And it works for all you sheep who think either party has your best interests in mind.

By your own definition you are off balance and confused btw.


no. i got off the teeter totter that tells you R and D are the only choices.
 
2012-10-10 08:41:27 PM

theMightyRegeya: Abox: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.


That's pretty much it. Romney enacted an assault weapons ban in Massachusettes. Obama allowed more concealed carry access. Guess who the NRA is endorsing.

Reality doesn't seem to matter anymore.


We're living in a post-reality world.
 
2012-10-10 08:42:30 PM
Three alts use the word shamefull . I wonder if you are a volunteer, or you get paid to carry GOP water.
 
2012-10-10 08:42:50 PM

ecl: Why don't the embassies have tanks?


This was a consulate, not an embassy. Our embassies are well protected. Consulates are like little satellite offices and don't have protection like embassies do.

My question is, why was this guy at a consulate instead of the embassy on 9/11? He must have known that this would a rather risky day to be running around outside of the embassy. He didn't play it safe, and he paid the price. I sure wish he hadn't.
 
2012-10-10 08:43:00 PM

SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.

They are both fine with taking public money to enrich the elite regardless of which party they are donating to. It's a joke that people think they are mutually exclusive. They agree on turning public wealth (taxes) into private wealth (kickbacks to their richest donors). They agree on policing the public and diminishing civil liberties under the guise of national security.

D and R are like 2 ends of a teeter totter. the people furthest from the center scream the loudest and jump up and down just to keep the majority of people near the middle off balance and confused. And it works for all you sheep who think either party has your best interests in mind.


pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com

/It's hard to make this point without coming across as so damn smug
 
2012-10-10 08:44:28 PM

James F. Campbell: theMightyRegeya: Abox: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.


That's pretty much it. Romney enacted an assault weapons ban in Massachusettes. Obama allowed more concealed carry access. Guess who the NRA is endorsing.

Reality doesn't seem to matter anymore.

We're living in a post-reality world.


reality is that R's and D's scream the loudest about the issues that they know there is no possibility of building consensus in regard to. Things like immigration, abortion, gay rights, etc. get focused on b/c they realized long ago that people would focus on those things and be afraid of the opposite party more than they'd investigate what "their" party actual supports and does. People vote against the "wrong" party as much as they vote for a party they support. We should be far more worried about where D's and R's agree than where they disagree but, most of us are too busy worrying about those things that we'll never be able to compromise or agree to disagree on.
 
2012-10-10 08:44:32 PM

Shaggy_C: MyRandomName: Seeing as State Department funding is up nearly 40% since 2009....

2012 - 53.4 Billion
2009 - 38.3 Billion

I'm sure the extra 1.5 billion they requested would have saved Stevens.

So this is all Obama's fault


Whatever.

If it's my job to ensure your safety, dollars mean nothing.

Mr. Obama dropped the ball here.

Is it reason to oust him? No.

But the truth is there.

Accept it.
 
2012-10-10 08:44:33 PM

Lando Lincoln: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

Would extra security have stopped guys with rocket launchers?
Nope.


Not this time, but I'm sure congress is ready to wheel out a bunch of no-bid contracts for small-scale missile defense grids now.
 
2012-10-10 08:47:01 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: CygnusDarius: And yet, Romney has a chance of winning.

/Americans
//You need to up your ante

To what my dear friend? Your own countries issues make ours seem like low level noise sometimes. Why don't you up your ante and get a government that isn't bought by drug cartels?


We're on it.

www.latinorebels.com

We're freakin' on it.
 
2012-10-10 08:47:23 PM

ecl: Why don't the embassies have tanks?


It was a failed attempt at breaking the mold of the holy trinity. They figured if they had to deal with another RPG, they would at least try to shake things up a little.
 
2012-10-10 08:47:31 PM
Eh, who cares. The President himself said the American deaths in the embassy were just "speed bumps."

Have you heard about Big Bird? Oh man, Romney is terrible.
 
2012-10-10 08:47:38 PM

SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.


Go ahead and vote for the guy that will legalize pot, hippy, and leave the actual policies that matter to the adults.
 
2012-10-10 08:48:56 PM
BIG BIRD. BIG BIRD, YO. BIG BIRD.
 
2012-10-10 08:49:06 PM

SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.


Says the "libertarian." You're a crock of shiat. Go away, kid. You bother me.
 
2012-10-10 08:52:01 PM
If Rom-nay is elected I'm going to have to leave or something...

I can't have more years of pandering to people who consume folks on a regular basis.

I just can't.

Bush brought us to fake-war.

People died.

It wasn't.

But made so.

And so.

We go?

fark that, mans.

I protest.

*) + resolve + pluck = bam AND boom. And love...
 
2012-10-10 08:52:05 PM

Lando Lincoln: ecl: Why don't the embassies have tanks?

This was a consulate, not an embassy. Our embassies are well protected. Consulates are like little satellite offices and don't have protection like embassies do.

My question is, why was this guy at a consulate instead of the embassy on 9/11? He must have known that this would a rather risky day to be running around outside of the embassy. He didn't play it safe, and he paid the price. I sure wish he hadn't.


So the Ambassador should have known but Obama and the smartest woman in politics (our Secretary of State) didn't know?
 
2012-10-10 08:52:16 PM
You know who I blame for this? Prescott Bush. Dubya's granddaddy who has been dead for 40 years. He was a banker then he was the guy that controlled defense contract spending for the Federal Government.

Notice his progeny both made sure defense contractors (and the banks who finance the government's projects they undertake) were well taken care of during their time in the white house. Without the massive amount of military spending that has led to our world-policing activities over the last half century we wouldn't have problems with terrorists who are ticked off that we've been meddling in their affairs. Pulling strings in their puppet governments to keep OUR citizens supplied with the products we want at the prices we want them at tends to be the source of most of the anger directed our way. They just also happen to hate us for not being like them but that isn't new to this century.

(this isn't anti-republican, i hate democrats too. just pointing out this particular set of events set in motion by a man long-since dead)
 
2012-10-10 08:52:50 PM

GORDON: Eh, who cares. The President himself said the American deaths in the embassy were just "speed bumps."

Have you heard about Big Bird? Oh man, Romney is terrible.


Meh, at least he hasn't done something stupid like advocate the construction of 15 ships a year and 3 submarines while also trying to be the candidate of fiscal responsibility.

Oh wait...
 
2012-10-10 08:53:25 PM

sithon: Three alts use the word shamefull . I wonder if you are a volunteer, or you get paid to carry GOP water.


Speaking strictly for myself as one of your alleged "alts":
1) Mitt Romney is an ass-clown.
2) The word "shameful" is as apt a description of this thread as anything else that comes to mind.

Even the most pathetically partisan participants in this thread recognize it for what it is; a craven attempt to use the deaths of these people to further a political agenda. The fact that it's directed at a group that has stooped to the same tactics to further their political agenda does not excuse it.
Subby and all the bandwagoneers should be deeply ashamed of themselves for even trying this. The fact that they're not just goes to show how much like their Republican counterparts they actually are.
 
2012-10-10 08:54:18 PM

CygnusDarius: Lt. Cheese Weasel: CygnusDarius: And yet, Romney has a chance of winning.

/Americans
//You need to up your ante

To what my dear friend? Your own countries issues make ours seem like low level noise sometimes. Why don't you up your ante and get a government that isn't bought by drug cartels?

We're on it.

[www.latinorebels.com image 472x368]

We're freakin' on it.


Any other person says this and I would be dubious. But I believe you and wish you many victories, and change. Vaya con dios my amigo.
 
2012-10-10 08:54:43 PM

SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.

They are both fine with taking public money to enrich the elite regardless of which party they are donating to. It's a joke that people think they are mutually exclusive. They agree on turning public wealth (taxes) into private wealth (kickbacks to their richest donors). They agree on policing the public and diminishing civil liberties under the guise of national security.

D and R are like 2 ends of a teeter totter. the people furthest from the center scream the loudest and jump up and down just to keep the majority of people near the middle off balance and confused. And it works for all you sheep who think either party has your best interests in mind.


So vote Ron Paul?

This was an admirable pitch about 9 months ago, but either a D or R is going to get elected president in November.

"The majority of people near the middle" have to look right to see either candidate, and use a high powered telescope to see the other one.
 
2012-10-10 08:55:02 PM

Lando Lincoln: SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.

Go ahead and vote for the guy that will legalize pot, hippy, and leave the actual policies that matter to the adults.


James F. Campbell: SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.

Says the "libertarian." You're a crock of shiat. Go away, kid. You bother me.



You guys should try reading the constitution some time. I know that Fox News discourages you doing anything for yourself but just try it. Read it and come back and tell me that D's or R's either one are doing what this country was founded upon. You'll be lying if you try and you know it.
 
2012-10-10 08:55:17 PM

Richard Saunders: Mr. Obama dropped the ball here.


How can you say that without knowing all of the facts? Maybe the State Department issued orders for all embassy personnel to be at the embassies instead of any consulates on 9/11, which would make complete sense, since the embassies are well protected and consulates are not. But the Libyan ambassador either didn't obey the order or couldn't obey the order due to other circumstances.
 
2012-10-10 08:55:25 PM

GORDON: Eh, who cares. The President himself said the American deaths in the embassy were just "speed bumps."

Have you heard about Big Bird? Oh man, Romney is terrible.


You win.

(I'm chuckling so much I'm barely able to post this.)

/LOL
 
2012-10-10 08:57:46 PM

SquiggsIN: You know who I blame for this? Prescott Bush. Dubya's granddaddy who has been dead for 40 years. He was a banker then he was the guy that controlled defense contract spending for the Federal Government.

Notice his progeny both made sure defense contractors (and the banks who finance the government's projects they undertake) were well taken care of during their time in the white house. Without the massive amount of military spending that has led to our world-policing activities over the last half century we wouldn't have problems with terrorists who are ticked off that we've been meddling in their affairs. Pulling strings in their puppet governments to keep OUR citizens supplied with the products we want at the prices we want them at tends to be the source of most of the anger directed our way. They just also happen to hate us for not being like them but that isn't new to this century.

(this isn't anti-republican, i hate democrats too. just pointing out this particular set of events set in motion by a man long-since dead)


cdn-static.zdnet.com
You understand of course this strawman's first name was Grok? And he was a caveman that hunted dinosaurs to survive? He sure is a nice strawman, would hate to see anything happen to him.
 
2012-10-10 08:58:05 PM

SquiggsIN: You guys should try reading the constitution some time. I know that Fox News discourages you doing anything for yourself but just try it. Read it and come back and tell me that D's or R's either one are doing what this country was founded upon. You'll be lying if you try and you know it.


So we should act like pouting losers and just not vote anymore. That'll show 'em! Politicians HATE IT when voters are too apathetic to vote!
 
2012-10-10 08:59:24 PM

SquiggsIN: Tigger: SquiggsIN: Anyone dumb enough to vote for Democrats or Republicans at this point should be shot.

They are both fine with taking public money to enrich the elite regardless of which party they are donating to. It's a joke that people think they are mutually exclusive. They agree on turning public wealth (taxes) into private wealth (kickbacks to their richest donors). They agree on policing the public and diminishing civil liberties under the guise of national security.

D and R are like 2 ends of a teeter totter. the people furthest from the center scream the loudest and jump up and down just to keep the majority of people near the middle off balance and confused. And it works for all you sheep who think either party has your best interests in mind.

By your own definition you are off balance and confused btw.

no. i got off the teeter totter that tells you R and D are the only choices.


So are you an irrelevant libertarian, an irrelevant green or an irrelevant undecided? :)
 
2012-10-10 09:00:42 PM

Lando Lincoln: SquiggsIN: You guys should try reading the constitution some time. I know that Fox News discourages you doing anything for yourself but just try it. Read it and come back and tell me that D's or R's either one are doing what this country was founded upon. You'll be lying if you try and you know it.

So we should act like pouting losers and just not vote anymore. That'll show 'em! Politicians HATE IT when voters are too apathetic to vote!


actually i think they count on the fact that there are so many disenfranchised people who don't bother following what they are doing.


@Tigger : irrelevant libertarian trying to educate some of you all every day.
 
2012-10-10 09:04:26 PM
Retardumblican, anyone?

Retadumblican, anyone, anyone, Retardumblican?

Retardumblican?

Hee...

*)
 
2012-10-10 09:05:39 PM

Indubitably: Retardumblican, anyone?

Retadumblican, anyone, anyone, Retardumblican?

Retardumblican?

Hee...

*)


P.S. I am the next Hemingway...
 
2012-10-10 09:06:48 PM

Indubitably: Indubitably: Retardumblican, anyone?

Retadumblican, anyone, anyone, Retardumblican?

Retardumblican?

Hee...

*)

P.S. I am the next Hemingway...


P.P.S. *snort-chuckle*
 
2012-10-10 09:11:19 PM
SquiggsIN:

Who are you voting for President?
 
2012-10-10 09:19:38 PM
Ahem...

SINCE DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T PASSED A BUDGET IN THREE YEARS, THIS HAD NO EFFECT ON EMBASSY FUNDING WHATSOEVER.

Good Day.
 
2012-10-10 09:20:45 PM
 
2012-10-10 09:24:09 PM
Oh it's HuffPo -- so it must be true!
 
2012-10-10 09:28:27 PM

browser_snake: SINCE DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T PASSED A BUDGET IN THREE YEARS, THIS HAD NO EFFECT ON EMBASSY FUNDING WHATSOEVER.


The 2012 Federal Budget was passed on December 23, 2011.

Good Day.
 
2012-10-10 09:28:34 PM
Another brain Fark fail. Embassy asked for more security, current administration, i.e. democrats refused. Had absolutely nothing to do with budget/funding. Then, as with Holder, Obama and guns to Mexico, they lied and tried to cover up the fact that they in fact knew the embassies were al quaeda targets.
 
2012-10-10 09:29:41 PM
Thats about right. They've been doing every thing they can to sabbotage this administration just so they can try to blame Obama for it. It's pretty guttless but also what I've come to expect from republicans.

I just hope Americans aren't stupid enough to fall for it.

Hypnozombie
 
2012-10-10 09:30:44 PM
Benghazi is what the Repubs have in lieu of an actual foreign policy plan of their own (pretty much will be same as it ever was/currently is). They will feast on the corpse of the dead ambassador right up to election day. The `narrative' is `Obama is weak/ineffectual' - it's the `Carter & hostages in Tehran' in a teacup.

U.S. security policy has pretty much been a hostage of lack of an energy policy -one that serves the Republic -, since `73 - the actors change, the lobbyists don't, and, here we are.
 
2012-10-10 09:31:08 PM

Mrbogey: So no one cares that specific security requests, which Republicans have no say in, were turned down for Libya? No one upset that the whole start of the attack was lied about by this administration?

Is it really the Republicans fault that the ambassador's security detail in Libya was smaller than security details that some members of the state department have stateside?


Yes. Everything bad that happens is the GOP's fault, no matter what. That is the fark way.
 
2012-10-10 09:32:10 PM

Shaggy_C: This entire argument hinges on a simple question: Did they provide enough of a budget for the embassy to have more security than it did on the day of the attacks?


Actually the bigger question is: Why is Libya's security dropped when they could get security from another "safer" area?
 
ecl
2012-10-10 09:32:14 PM

ongbok: IHateLongIsland: The vote was to reduce funding for the year 2013. Last time I checked, we're not there yet. So....Jesus, libs are terrible.

For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.

Now who is terrible? You lying sack.


Oh he just has no reading comprehension skills. I'm sure he's not a monkey in a lab somewhere... or is he?
 
2012-10-10 09:33:50 PM
How do you plan for hate?

*)
 
2012-10-10 09:34:49 PM
Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night
 
2012-10-10 09:35:31 PM
If Obama wins, I'll contract AIDS.
 
2012-10-10 09:36:48 PM
Isn't it funny when people who disagree with you resort to name-calling instead of trying discussion?

It's like putting your fingers in your ears and singing loudly just to drown out something you disagree with. Reminds me of my 4 year old nephew.

(j/k it's sad not funny)
 
2012-10-10 09:37:35 PM

Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night


Maybe Obama shouldn't call Mitt Romney out on his idiotic statements and blatant lying -- he'll just be accused of name-calling, and his statements will just get edited out of future broadcasts.
 
2012-10-10 09:37:38 PM

the_chief: If Obama wins, I'll contract AIDS.


On purpose, or happy accident?
 
2012-10-10 09:37:42 PM

People_are_Idiots: Shaggy_C: This entire argument hinges on a simple question: Did they provide enough of a budget for the embassy to have more security than it did on the day of the attacks?

Actually the bigger question is: Why is Libya's security dropped when they could get security from another "safer" area?


Well, you see, as a Musulman himself, Mr. B. Hussein-Obama assumed the Brotherhood that he Annointed to power in Libya would respect his Minions at the embassy...
 
2012-10-10 09:38:25 PM

the_chief: If Obama wins, I'll contract AIDS.


If Obama wins, you won't have a choice.
 
2012-10-10 09:40:45 PM

Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night


You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?
 
2012-10-10 09:42:33 PM

rdondelinger: Countering the critiques of our fellow learned Farkers ( Mrtraveler01, James F. Campbell, Lando Lincoln, and everyone else that I may have left out ), while SquiggsIN's "fresh perspective" is certainly not fresh as in new, it is most assuredly an oft-overlooked and under-appreciated viewpoint held by individual Farkers such as SquiggsIN and myself. As a community, we have much to gain by listening to views of others which do not necessarily align with our own beliefs and values. We can learn, if we make the determination to keep an open mind. An exercise in tolerance and patience is good for all.


See, I can take this post seriously because you don't come across as a smug douche to me.
 
ecl
2012-10-10 09:42:43 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night

You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?


Did you put everyone on ignore that you don't agree with b/c that lie has been debunked.
 
2012-10-10 09:45:38 PM

ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night

You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?

Did you put everyone on ignore that you don't agree with b/c that lie has been debunked.


Who's alt is this? I ignore very few. You're moving up however. There was sufficient funds to give those men the security upgrades they begged, BEGGED for, in July. And this shiattheaded administration did nothing. You can't repaint the barn after it has burned down.
 
2012-10-10 09:45:44 PM

rdondelinger: while SquiggsIN's "fresh perspective" is certainly not fresh as in new, it is most assuredly an oft-overlooked and under-appreciated viewpoint held by individual Farkers such as SquiggsIN and myself.


WHAT PERSPECTIVE?

He came in here and immediately told all of us Democrats / Republicans that we're all a bunch of feebs for voting Democrat or Republican.

Actually, he said that we should all be shot.

But yes, sure, we should really respect that "fresh perspective" of his. We'll all go out and shoot ourselves now. He's obviously very wise.
 
ecl
2012-10-10 09:46:35 PM

rdondelinger: SquiggsIN: Lando Lincoln: SquiggsIN: do you have anything to discuss or do you just want to throw insults around?

...says the guy that isn't talking about anything even closely related to the thread topic at hand.

yeah because fark threads are known for staying on topic. This is a thread about assigning blame for bad things. That turns into R's blaming D's and D's blaming R's. I'm providing a fresh perspective. I know you don't like to think outside of the box you've willingly locked yourself into so I don't expect you to see things from any perspective other than your obviously correct position.

Countering the critiques of our fellow learned Farkers ( Mrtraveler01, James F. Campbell, Lando Lincoln, and everyone else that I may have left out ), while SquiggsIN's "fresh perspective" is certainly not fresh as in new, it is most assuredly an oft-overlooked and under-appreciated viewpoint held by individual Farkers such as SquiggsIN and myself. As a community, we have much to gain by listening to views of others which do not necessarily align with our own beliefs and values. We can learn, if we make the determination to keep an open mind. An exercise in tolerance and patience is good for all.

Now, for more on a viewpoint that may make you think "Hmmmmmm... ", I present to you a clip from the honorable Judge Napolitano: Link.


Wtf is wrong with you. That was worse than being rickrolled.
 
2012-10-10 09:48:17 PM

Mrtraveler01: rdondelinger: Countering the critiques of our fellow learned Farkers ( Mrtraveler01, James F. Campbell, Lando Lincoln, and everyone else that I may have left out ), while SquiggsIN's "fresh perspective" is certainly not fresh as in new, it is most assuredly an oft-overlooked and under-appreciated viewpoint held by individual Farkers such as SquiggsIN and myself. As a community, we have much to gain by listening to views of others which do not necessarily align with our own beliefs and values. We can learn, if we make the determination to keep an open mind. An exercise in tolerance and patience is good for all.

See, I can take this post seriously because you don't come across as a smug douche to me.


smug douche? perhaps i'm guilty as charged. years of seeing the stupidity played out by D's and R's in front of the public who seems to not notice has seemingly made me think i'm one of the only people paying attention.
 
ecl
2012-10-10 09:48:57 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night

You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?

Did you put everyone on ignore that you don't agree with b/c that lie has been debunked.

Who's alt is this? I ignore very few. You're moving up however. There was sufficient funds to give those men the security upgrades they begged, BEGGED for, in July. And this shiattheaded administration did nothing. You can't repaint the barn after it has burned down.


FTA
For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.


I know you're a partisan hack but don't pretend facts don't matter.
 
2012-10-10 09:49:14 PM

Lando Lincoln: rdondelinger: while SquiggsIN's "fresh perspective" is certainly not fresh as in new, it is most assuredly an oft-overlooked and under-appreciated viewpoint held by individual Farkers such as SquiggsIN and myself.

WHAT PERSPECTIVE?

He came in here and immediately told all of us Democrats / Republicans that we're all a bunch of feebs for voting Democrat or Republican.

Actually, he said that we should all be shot.

But yes, sure, we should really respect that "fresh perspective" of his. We'll all go out and shoot ourselves now. He's obviously very wise.


yes. I don't know how sarcasm works and obviously neither do you.
 
2012-10-10 09:53:54 PM
"He shouldn't make my son's death part of his political agenda. It's wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama," Barbara Doherty. mother of Glen Doherty.

"He actually approached him, using this private gathering as basically a political venture to further his image. And Glen just believed it to be very insincere and stale," Elf Ellefsen, identifed as Glen Doherty's friend.

Link

Politicizing the death of Americans by foreign terrorists, long a weapon of Republicans, is base and shameful.
 
2012-10-10 09:55:08 PM

Shaggy_C: People_are_Idiots: Shaggy_C: This entire argument hinges on a simple question: Did they provide enough of a budget for the embassy to have more security than it did on the day of the attacks?

Actually the bigger question is: Why is Libya's security dropped when they could get security from another "safer" area?

Well, you see, as a Musulman himself, Mr. B. Hussein-Obama assumed the Brotherhood that he Annointed to power in Libya would respect his Minions at the embassy...


Actually I think he underestimated, or at least wasn't given the right intel. Remember bad intel happened before.... name the president ;)
 
2012-10-10 09:55:28 PM
This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'
 
2012-10-10 09:56:41 PM

Blues_X: If you support these people, you are a worthless sack.


Drew Curtis, the owner of Fark, wholeheartedly supports the GOP. He is a worthless sack.
 
2012-10-10 09:56:59 PM
 
2012-10-10 10:00:28 PM
So, does anyone think that if you can cut 331 million from the security budget, that it must be a rather large number. 331 million cut...so what's leftover? A billion? I notice the article doesn't mention the total amount, probably because it would be mind-blowing.

That seems like it should be able to pay for a platoon of Marines in Benghazi.

Also, 6,000 contractors in Iraq...for what? We pulled out, have no troops there and they are selling oil to Syria and buying Russian gear. So, why 6,000 contractors there?

And they can't spare some of those in Libya? I think the guy has a point.;

Again, what's the total budget?
 
ecl
2012-10-10 10:00:47 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'


Elaborate trolling.
 
2012-10-10 10:01:00 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'


again, why can't people discuss this without name-calling? Show a little respect to yourself and the country by being willing to have a discussion that doesn't involve throwing pejoratives instead of ideas. Not that I love Obama (I don't) but, Romney was handed a life of privilege and expanded upon it. Mr Romney doesn't know much about sweating for a livelihood or sacrificing either. Don't kid yourself.
 
2012-10-10 10:02:35 PM

ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night

You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?

Did you put everyone on ignore that you don't agree with b/c that lie has been debunked.

Who's alt is this? I ignore very few. You're moving up however. There was sufficient funds to give those men the security upgrades they begged, BEGGED for, in July. And this shiattheaded administration did nothing. You can't repaint the barn after it has burned down.

FTA
For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.


I know you're a partisan hack but don't pretend facts don't matter.


The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat.. And the State Dept, instead of actually using that pitiful 5 lbs of crap inside their heads to draw a line between two simple points with their farking crayons instead carried the DNC water and refused it for political purposes. And decent and honorable men died. I hope you're proud.
 
2012-10-10 10:03:09 PM

GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful


Lots of embassies/consulates are requesting more security. Get it?
We don't have enough money. Get it?
We can't predict all bad outcomes. We're making due with limited funds.
The terrorist are to blame for the deaths, not Americans.
 
ecl
2012-10-10 10:06:10 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night

You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?

Did you put everyone on ignore that you don't agree with b/c that lie has been debunked.

Who's alt is this? I ignore very few. You're moving up however. There was sufficient funds to give those men the security upgrades they begged, BEGGED for, in July. And this shiattheaded administration did nothing. You can't repaint the barn after it has burned down.

FTA
For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.


I know you're a partisan hack but don't pretend facts don't matter.

The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat.. And the State Dept, instead of actually using that pitiful 5 lbs of crap inside their heads to draw a line between two simple points with their farking crayons instead carried the DNC water and refused it for political purposes. And decent and honorable men died. I hope you're proud.



Irregardless is a nice touch.
 
2012-10-10 10:07:02 PM

James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.


When you hide behind the flag and cross with a bunch of naive kids with machine guns in front of you, people blindly follow
 
2012-10-10 10:07:15 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night

You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?

Did you put everyone on ignore that you don't agree with b/c that lie has been debunked.

Who's alt is this? I ignore very few. You're moving up however. There was sufficient funds to give those men the security upgrades they begged, BEGGED for, in July. And this shiattheaded administration did nothing. You can't repaint the barn after it has burned down.

FTA
For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.


I know you're a partisan hack but don't pretend facts don't matter.

The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat.. And the State Dept, instead of actually using that pitiful 5 lbs of crap inside their heads to draw a line between two simple points with their farking crayons instead carried the DNC water and refused it for political purposes. And decent and honorable men died. I hope you're proud.


irregardless? okay i'm done expecting you to be able to have an intelligent discussion. thanks for the red flag!
 
2012-10-10 10:07:56 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: He's never held a job. He's never created one.


I never understood this talking point.

Since when in the history of politics has business experience ever translated to success in politics?

I'm drawing a blank here.
 
2012-10-10 10:08:24 PM

ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night

You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?

Did you put everyone on ignore that you don't agree with b/c that lie has been debunked.

Who's alt is this? I ignore very few. You're moving up however. There was sufficient funds to give those men the security upgrades they begged, BEGGED for, in July. And this shiattheaded administration did nothing. You can't repaint the barn after it has burned down.

FTA
For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.


I know you're a partisan hack but don't pretend facts don't matter.


Those look like big cuts, hundreds of millions. But the budget is in the billions, or thousands of millions. Less than a four percent reduction in spending.

I think I'll place the blame on the person(s) that ignored warnings and requests for increased security in a country that suddenly has no friendly government. Or the film that nobody ever saw.
 
2012-10-10 10:10:06 PM

SquiggsIN: Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: ecl: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gwendolyn: Oh dear god. The problem is the assholes will get away with it and sleep just fine at night

You do realize of course that the budget cuts the GOP proposed were for 2013 right? Of course you did. Drew does not give modmin rights to morons. Right?

Did you put everyone on ignore that you don't agree with b/c that lie has been debunked.

Who's alt is this? I ignore very few. You're moving up however. There was sufficient funds to give those men the security upgrades they begged, BEGGED for, in July. And this shiattheaded administration did nothing. You can't repaint the barn after it has burned down.

FTA
For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.


I know you're a partisan hack but don't pretend facts don't matter.

The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat.. And the State Dept, instead of actually using that pitiful 5 lbs of crap inside their heads to draw a line between two simple points with their farking crayons instead carried the DNC water and refused it for political purposes. And decent and honorable men died. I hope you're proud.

irregardless? okay i'm done expecting you to be able to have an intelligent discussion. thanks for the red flag!


Typical. As expected. Why don't you blame Bush on the way out?
 
2012-10-10 10:10:46 PM
Oh Huffington... doing whatever it takes to smear Republicans while making Obama out to be a God. Some fine, objective journalism that site has!
 
2012-10-10 10:11:47 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'


Mitt Romney blamed the embassy itself for the attack before the dust had even settled, and if he had been president that day, many, many more Americans would be dead because of this.

You really think he wants to invite the Obama campaign to make this an issue?
 
2012-10-10 10:12:51 PM
In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.
 
2012-10-10 10:13:36 PM

Mrtraveler01: Lt. Cheese Weasel: He's never held a job. He's never created one.

I never understood this talking point.

Since when in the history of politics has business experience ever translated to success in politics?

I'm drawing a blank here.


Much like the rest of the DNC, the last four years are a blank to you. No idea, no clue, no answers. Time to go.
 
2012-10-10 10:15:18 PM

Snazzy1: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

Lots of embassies/consulates are requesting more security. Get it?
We don't have enough money. Get it?
We can't predict all bad outcomes. We're making due with limited funds.
The terrorist are to blame for the deaths, not Americans.


Citation?

Could we maybe move some of the security from some of the many embassies and consulates we have in the civilized world and place them in the assholes of the world where cavemen want to kill us?

You know how police increase their presence in high crime ares and decrease their presence in low crime areas, with limited funds? Something like that
 
2012-10-10 10:17:06 PM
i235.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-10 10:18:47 PM

WorldCitizen: Mentat: Hillary Clinton needs to show up at the House and tear this guy 12 new assholes.

Oh, yes, please this! You are very correct. This needs to happen. I would so love to watch this.


Hell, I'd buy tickets!
 
2012-10-10 10:18:55 PM

Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.


They had too bargain or the GOP wouldn't...

Dem legs good, Rep legs bad.
 
2012-10-10 10:20:17 PM
$2.075 billion....that's the budget for security. They asked for 2.5 billion and got 2 billion dollars.

I guess they could only scrape together the 30 dollars for the Libyan militia's food and not pay them for 6 months because they have "no budget."
 
2012-10-10 10:20:36 PM
Oh dear. Lt. Cheese Weasel is in full-on election bullshiat mode. He knows he's being dishonest, but doesn't care.

Him amongst others.
 
2012-10-10 10:23:35 PM

udhq: Lt. Cheese Weasel: This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'

Mitt Romney blamed the embassy itself for the attack before the dust had even settled, and if he had been president that day, many, many more Americans would be dead because of this.

You really think he wants to invite the Obama campaign to make this an issue?


I'm counting on it. Facts are clear. Truth wills out. He went to Vegas while our Ambassador and 3 others were being murdered and our consulate was over run. They were warned. They ignored it. This is Obama's 'My Pet Goat.' Reap what you sow. Spin it 100x, won't matter. The Swing states already have moved. The only demographic left supporting this brainless boob will be blacks on the government tit in Detroit and Chicago before the election gets here. Hurry November.
 
2012-10-10 10:25:18 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mrtraveler01: Lt. Cheese Weasel: He's never held a job. He's never created one.

I never understood this talking point.

Since when in the history of politics has business experience ever translated to success in politics?

I'm drawing a blank here.

Much like the rest of the DNC, the last four years are a blank to you. No idea, no clue, no answers. Time to go.


Neither party is infallible. Your devotion to your party would be admirable if it weren't so delusional. No need to blame Bush again. I already blamed his granddaddy earlier in the thread. Maybe you should do some research into how the Bush family has helped create the global police force division of our military. I won't apologize for the terrible misjudgments of the Democrats. I dislike R's and D's pretty much equally. I don't want R's telling our citizens how to live their lives or making judgment calls for the entire population based on a majority-held belief structure. I don't want D's telling our citizens that it's our responsibility to pay for programs which are poorly implemented and benefit bureaucrats more than their intended recipients.

I fully believe that R's and D's are 2 sides of the same coin. They have a plan and you've fallen right into the trap. It's not your fault that you allow your perspective to be controlled by those seemingly most similar to you. It's conditioning. I'm just trying to offer you something that you perhaps haven't considered. Republicans are no more righteous in their intents than are Democrats. You seem to be willing to vote against Democrats out of fear and prejudice as much as truly supporting the Republicans. You are not alone.
 
2012-10-10 10:26:27 PM

Cobataiwan: $2.075 billion....that's the budget for security. They asked for 2.5 billion and got 2 billion dollars.

I guess they could only scrape together the 30 dollars for the Libyan militia's food and not pay them for 6 months because they have "no budget."


I guess today is the day that Republicans hate military spending. Or they want Obama to fail so much, and knew a single digit reduction would lead to this, that they pissed on their defense industry cronies and sacrificed four men.

God I missed this den of idiocy.
 
2012-10-10 10:28:13 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mrtraveler01: Lt. Cheese Weasel: He's never held a job. He's never created one.

I never understood this talking point.

Since when in the history of politics has business experience ever translated to success in politics?

I'm drawing a blank here.

Much like the rest of the DNC, the last four years are a blank to you. No idea, no clue, no answers. Time to go.


So you can't think of a politician who's business experience translated to success in politics either?

Well thanks for clearing that up for us.
 
2012-10-10 10:33:14 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: I'm counting on it. Facts are clear. Truth wills out. He went to Vegas while our Ambassador and 3 others were being murdered and our consulate was over run. They were warned. They ignored it. This is Obama's 'My Pet Goat.' Reap what you sow. Spin it 100x, won't matter. The Swing states already have moved. The only demographic left supporting this brainless boob will be blacks on the government tit in Detroit and Chicago before the election gets here. Hurry November.


Fennel-crusted sea bass served with a raspberry reduction over polenta and mixed greens. Union forces suffered over 12,000 casualties during the Battle of Antietam. The Musée du Louvre is the most visited art museum in the world. I like cats.

Saying random things is fun.
 
2012-10-10 10:34:28 PM
Sorry, this Democratic talking point is a joke. There are 190 embassies and only seven of them have a significant risk of violence. Surely with a $300 billion a year defense price tag, we can get three marines to guard an embassy in a potential warzone? Stop pretending money has something to do with this incompetence.
 
2012-10-10 10:34:56 PM
GOPers are even fuller of shiat than normal.
 
2012-10-10 10:35:55 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: udhq: Lt. Cheese Weasel: This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'

Mitt Romney blamed the embassy itself for the attack before the dust had even settled, and if he had been president that day, many, many more Americans would be dead because of this.

You really think he wants to invite the Obama campaign to make this an issue?

I'm counting on it. Facts are clear. Truth wills out. He went to Vegas while our Ambassador and 3 others were being murdered and our consulate was over run. They were warned. They ignored it. This is Obama's 'My Pet Goat.' Reap what you sow. Spin it 100x, won't matter. The Swing states already have moved. The only demographic left supporting this brainless boob will be blacks on the government tit in Detroit and Chicago before the election gets here. Hurry November.


Even if Obama did everything you claim, the only person who botched Benghazi worse than him was Romney. That's a fact.

What's also a fact is that 2 days ago, a couple of Romney advisers stopped high-fiving each other over the debate long enough to realize that they still losing badly in the electoral vote, opened up a newspaper, decided this looked vaguely like the Iranian Hostage Crisis, and decided to score some partisan political points by raping a couple of American corpses.

Any you slice it, this being made a campaign issue is pretty ugly, and no one comes out of this looking worse than Romney.
 
ecl
2012-10-10 10:36:28 PM

angryjd: Sorry, this Democratic talking point is a joke. There are 190 embassies and only seven of them have a significant risk of violence. Surely with a $300 billion a year defense price tag, we can get three marines to guard an embassy in a potential warzone? Stop pretending money has something to do with this incompetence.


300 billion?
 
2012-10-10 10:36:51 PM

free cell from obama: ifarkthereforiam: Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.


You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.


Two wrongs make a right. Therefor vote republican, eh?
 
2012-10-10 10:40:09 PM

SquiggsIN: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mrtraveler01: Lt. Cheese Weasel: He's never held a job. He's never created one.

I never understood this talking point.

Since when in the history of politics has business experience ever translated to success in politics?

I'm drawing a blank here.

Much like the rest of the DNC, the last four years are a blank to you. No idea, no clue, no answers. Time to go.

Neither party is infallible. Your devotion to your party would be admirable if it weren't so delusional. No need to blame Bush again. I already blamed his granddaddy earlier in the thread. Maybe you should do some research into how the Bush family has helped create the global police force division of our military. I won't apologize for the terrible misjudgments of the Democrats. I dislike R's and D's pretty much equally. I don't want R's telling our citizens how to live their lives or making judgment calls for the entire population based on a majority-held belief structure. I don't want D's telling our citizens that it's our responsibility to pay for programs which are poorly implemented and benefit bureaucrats more than their intended recipients.

I fully believe that R's and D's are 2 sides of the same coin. They have a plan and you've fallen right into the trap. It's not your fault that you allow your perspective to be controlled by those seemingly most similar to you. It's conditioning. I'm just trying to offer you something that you perhaps haven't considered. Republicans are no more righteous in their intents than are Democrats. You seem to be willing to vote against Democrats out of fear and prejudice as much as truly supporting the Republicans. You are not alone.


I'm not looking for infallibility. How's about some open honesty? For once? This idiots story/memo has changed 3 times since 9-11-12. Every single change in the story was politically driven, not a single care for the country, it's people or one farking shred of accountability and truth? And forget about the 4 that died. Just bodies now.

And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that? You're not paying attention or you have a nastier share of the partisan pie you claim I'm eating. Because yours has worms in it and you like the taste of maggots.
 
2012-10-10 10:42:11 PM

udhq: Even if Obama did everything you claim, the only person who botched Benghazi worse than him was Romney. That's a fact.


Mitt Romney is a private citizen. You do know that, right?
 
2012-10-10 10:42:53 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Shameful.



You mean dancing on the graves of the dead to blame 0bama? Yeah I agree. Hypocrite
 
2012-10-10 10:44:16 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: udhq: Even if Obama did everything you claim, the only person who botched Benghazi worse than him was Romney. That's a fact.

Mitt Romney is a private citizen. You do know that, right?


Yes, the guy running for President (and has his own Secret Service detail) is a private citizen.

/rolls eyes
 
2012-10-10 10:45:06 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'



This from left field post makes no sense considering you were having discussions before... oops you thought this was being posted under a different name. Don't you hate it when open tor browsers get confused?
 
2012-10-10 10:45:16 PM

Killer Cars: Lt. Cheese Weasel: I'm counting on it. Facts are clear. Truth wills out. He went to Vegas while our Ambassador and 3 others were being murdered and our consulate was over run. They were warned. They ignored it. This is Obama's 'My Pet Goat.' Reap what you sow. Spin it 100x, won't matter. The Swing states already have moved. The only demographic left supporting this brainless boob will be blacks on the government tit in Detroit and Chicago before the election gets here. Hurry November.

Fennel-crusted sea bass served with a raspberry reduction over polenta and mixed greens. Union forces suffered over 12,000 casualties during the Battle of Antietam. The Musée du Louvre is the most visited art museum in the world. I like cats.

Saying random things is fun.


You're exactly the kind of DNC bozo that won't vote because it's raining Nov.6. I like you.
 
2012-10-10 10:45:42 PM

Bucky Katt: GOPers are even fuller of shiat than normal.


I hit smart and funny for that comment. Where is the 'this changes everything' button. Hard hitting, direct, on topic, relevant, insightful... Faved.
 
2012-10-10 10:46:22 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat..



No wonder you conservative trolls always come back for more thinking you "won" the last debates. You keep making up "facts"
 
2012-10-10 10:47:01 PM

SquiggsIN: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mrtraveler01: Lt. Cheese Weasel: He's never held a job. He's never created one.

I never understood this talking point.

Since when in the history of politics has business experience ever translated to success in politics?

I'm drawing a blank here.

Much like the rest of the DNC, the last four years are a blank to you. No idea, no clue, no answers. Time to go.

Neither party is infallible. Your devotion to your party would be admirable if it weren't so delusional. No need to blame Bush again. I already blamed his granddaddy earlier in the thread. Maybe you should do some research into how the Bush family has helped create the global police force division of our military. I won't apologize for the terrible misjudgments of the Democrats. I dislike R's and D's pretty much equally. I don't want R's telling our citizens how to live their lives or making judgment calls for the entire population based on a majority-held belief structure. I don't want D's telling our citizens that it's our responsibility to pay for programs which are poorly implemented and benefit bureaucrats more than their intended recipients.

I fully believe that R's and D's are 2 sides of the same coin. They have a plan and you've fallen right into the trap. It's not your fault that you allow your perspective to be controlled by those seemingly most similar to you. It's conditioning. I'm just trying to offer you something that you perhaps haven't considered. Republicans are no more righteous in their intents than are Democrats. You seem to be willing to vote against Democrats out of fear and prejudice as much as truly supporting the Republicans. You are not alone.


Or, to, paraphrase, "Everybody in the world is stupid by me."

Seriously, neither party is infallible, but if you actually believe that there's no difference between republicans and democrats, all that means is that you are not paying attention.
 
2012-10-10 10:47:36 PM
I guess the Democrat-run Senate and President shouldn't have let that one go through.
 
2012-10-10 10:47:56 PM
It's like Republicans believe they've taken some sort of chelation agent that prevents irony from affecting them.
 
2012-10-10 10:48:16 PM

intelligent comment below: Lt. Cheese Weasel: This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'


This from left field post makes no sense considering you were having discussions before... oops you thought this was being posted under a different name. Don't you hate it when open tor browsers get confused?


I have no alts. Go stuff your head into your ass and just be a normal partisan DNC lemming.
 
2012-10-10 10:48:20 PM

angryjd: Sorry, this Democratic talking point is a joke. There are 190 embassies and only seven of them have a significant risk of violence. Surely with a $300 billion a year defense price tag, we can get three marines to guard an embassy in a potential warzone? Stop pretending money has something to do with this incompetence.


ALL American embassies have security issues and it DOES require money.
 
2012-10-10 10:49:05 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that? You're not paying attention or you have a nastier share of the partisan pie you claim I'm eating. Because yours has worms in it and you like the taste of maggots.



I love how your side brings up the narrative that the attack was a failure of 0bama's leadership, and now that the truth comes out, suddenly it's straight back to the HELP IM BEING OPPRESSED narrative that conservatives love to have.

You sure weren't saying this when your kind was dancing on the graves of the dead blaming 0bama for the deaths. But now the true facts come out and your side cut funding for security, you demand everyone stand back and stop blaming the other side. Oh I just love it when you finally have to stop digging the grave and lay in it.
 
2012-10-10 10:49:38 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.

Why is this?


Because their supporters are a mix of low intelligence assholes and high intelligence sociopaths.
 
2012-10-10 10:50:00 PM

intelligent comment below: Lt. Cheese Weasel: The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat..


No wonder you conservative trolls always come back for more thinking you "won" the last debates. You keep making up "facts"


It's not just a river, moran.
 
2012-10-10 10:50:37 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: udhq: Even if Obama did everything you claim, the only person who botched Benghazi worse than him was Romney. That's a fact.

Mitt Romney is a private citizen. You do know that, right?


No, he isn't. He is a presidential candidate who gets briefed by the CIA daily and has Secret Service protection.
 
2012-10-10 10:50:40 PM

Calmamity: thismomentinblackhistory: Why is this?

Because the media has been successfully cowed by bullshiat cries of bias and the Democrats are afraid to play hardball. Hardball to them being pointing out that the opposing party is rampant with hateful lying dickweasels.


Hence Obama's cringe worthy debate performance.
 
2012-10-10 10:51:11 PM

GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful


I don't know if you've ever had a boss who says "You should have done more." While saying "We're cutting your resources." If you had then you'd understand why the criticism is valid.

Are you saying the State Department was not "in any way" responsible for the security there? Or are you saying that they had the resources available and simply failed to utilize them so funding isn't involved?
 
2012-10-10 10:52:13 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: udhq: Even if Obama did everything you claim, the only person who botched Benghazi worse than him was Romney. That's a fact.

Mitt Romney is a private citizen. You do know that, right?


Yes, and if he had been president that day, many, many more Americans would be dead as a result of him having blamed the embassy itself for the attack.

And if he is elected, and we return to the Bush doctrine, many more Americans will die in Iran.
 
2012-10-10 10:52:59 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: I have no alts. Go stuff your head into your ass and just be a normal partisan DNC lemming.



projection again? Is that the best you can do? You've been pathetically shilling this topic up for hours
 
2012-10-10 10:54:16 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: intelligent comment below: Lt. Cheese Weasel: The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat..


No wonder you conservative trolls always come back for more thinking you "won" the last debates. You keep making up "facts"

It's not just a river, moran.



You sound tired man, all this pathetic shilling for the most corrupt political party in American history. No wonder this is the best you can do, i bet you feel dead inside
 
2012-10-10 10:55:29 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that?


Uh oh, is your narrative falling apart?
 
2012-10-10 10:57:09 PM

spamdog: Lt. Cheese Weasel: And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that?

Uh oh, is your narrative falling apart?


It's not always easy being a weasel.
 
2012-10-10 11:04:05 PM

MFAWG: free cell from obama: ifarkthereforiam: Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.


You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.

Was it actual intelligence, or was it the sort of intelligence that led Don Rumsfeld to famously say that the WMD were north, south, east, and west of Baghdad?

And yes, that is a serious question. You people need to come to grips with the fact that nobody buys you bullshiat anymore, especially, MOST especially in foreign policy and defense.


I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

What absolutely amazes me is how the right is wetting their collective magic panties complaining about Obama's "negligence" over 4 people dying in Libya in a "terrorist attack" - but conveniently forgetting and remaining silent on George W. Bush's negligence prior to the 9-11 terrorist attack which led to 3,000 deaths?!

And can you imagine the uproar from the right had the left actually accused GWB of negligence in the same time frame after 9-11 as they are regarding Libya? We would've been accused of being anti-American, unpatriotic, and unsupportive of the troops.

Maybe we should start fighting like they do. For example... next time someone complains about "Obamacare," why not use their tactics and say, "You do realize that Israel had universal, single payer health care. Why do you hate the Jews so much?" As ridiculous as that sounds, that's exactly how they fight. So maybe that's the only thing they understand and might actually respond to... ridiculous non sequiturs?
 
2012-10-10 11:08:26 PM
So how much is the State Dept budget annually today?

And why did the Ambassador in a hostile country have less protection than Obama's kids have while they sit in a private school in DC? WTF?
 
2012-10-10 11:08:51 PM

basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?


For me, it's the bold part.
 
2012-10-10 11:10:27 PM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

For me, it's the bold part.


So what do we do now, replace the current administration with one run by a pathological liar?

Good plan.
 
2012-10-10 11:12:07 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat.. And the State Dept, instead of actually using that pitiful 5 lbs of crap inside their heads to draw a line between two simple points with their farking crayons instead carried the DNC water and refused it for political purposes. And decent and honorable men died. I hope you're proud.


What part of "we're out of money" is so farking hard to understand?
 
2012-10-10 11:13:09 PM

basham: ridiculous non sequiturs?


Actually, it would be great if the democrats would actually kick the shiat out of people sometimes. There's nothing wrong with it. They don't need to be milquetoasts, it's just the current style.

Be right, have facts and be a witty jerk about it.

/ if Obama pulled a 6 minute rant out and slammed every ( well, six minutes worth of ) mistruth that had come out of Romneys mouth one after another with hard facts, the entire US would adore him for it, friend and enemy alike. We love nothing more than watching someone get take down a peg.
 
2012-10-10 11:15:51 PM
Damn, this is the best we can do?

The trolling four years ago at this time was feverish. I can't believe that this third-stringer is the best we can do anymore. Do you remember rushlimbaughsentme? And Gary? And the fake dentist? Those guys were pros. Hell, I probably put fifteen people on my kill list in October of 2008. It's not even worth the time and energy putting people on ignore anymore.

Fark trolling is a mere shadow of it's former self.
 
2012-10-10 11:22:59 PM
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2012-10-10 11:23:19 PM

Tor_Eckman: Damn, this is the best we can do?

The trolling four years ago at this time was feverish. I can't believe that this third-stringer is the best we can do anymore. Do you remember rushlimbaughsentme? And Gary? And the fake dentist? Those guys were pros. Hell, I probably put fifteen people on my kill list in October of 2008. It's not even worth the time and energy putting people on ignore anymore.

Fark trolling is a mere shadow of it's former self.



That's because anyone with a brain would have left working for a Republican long ago
 
2012-10-10 11:30:45 PM
not sure why I am supposed to care about 1 dead guy. I know I know. He's part of the beltway guys, you know the 1% guys, the real power behind america, not those stupid jarheads in iraq or afganistan that get killed every day.

But I mean, people do get killed every day, by terrorists in africa in libya, iraq and iran. Now, today, I'm supposed to care because the 1%-ers arent supposed to die?

I mean it sucks, but I'm used to seeing americans come home in body bags, we've been at war for 10 years, and we are still at war.

Just one more casualty. Sucks. But not sure why anyone thinks you can point and wave your hands and jump up and down, like he was any more special or any more beautiful of a person than any of the thousands that have already lost their lives in these wars . .. . . wars we are still fighting.

Until we get out of afganistan and iraq entirely I'm going to file this death under, "Just another war death and I'm sick of war"

Unless you want to pretend it's special. It's not special. It's awful and horrible just like all the rest.
 
2012-10-10 11:35:03 PM
The problem with runaway military spending is that eventually, you run out of other people's money.
 
2012-10-10 11:35:16 PM

theMightyRegeya: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

For me, it's the bold part.

So what do we do now, replace the current administration with one run by a pathological liar?

Good plan.


I don't remember mentioning Romney. You didn't really defend Obama or his ever evolving story. It looks like he and his administration told a whopper to distract from their negligence. I'm going to focus on that right now.

I'm voting (L) this cycle because my state is going (D) no matter what I do. I lucked out. If I lived in a swing state I'd reluctantly vote for Romney. To me, Obama has been awful in every way.
 
2012-10-10 11:38:59 PM

Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.


"In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them."

Well, this means the Republicans are absolved of all blame and Romney is automatically President for life.
 
2012-10-10 11:44:26 PM

theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

"In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them."

Well, this means the Republicans are absolved of all blame and Romney is automatically President for life.


Hey it worked for Chavez and Putin, right?
 
2012-10-10 11:45:00 PM

bonerici: not sure why I am supposed to care about 1 dead guy. I know I know. He's part of the beltway guys, you know the 1% guys, the real power behind america, not those stupid jarheads in iraq or afganistan that get killed every day.

But I mean, people do get killed every day, by terrorists in africa in libya, iraq and iran. Now, today, I'm supposed to care because the 1%-ers arent supposed to die?

I mean it sucks, but I'm used to seeing americans come home in body bags, we've been at war for 10 years, and we are still at war.

Just one more casualty. Sucks. But not sure why anyone thinks you can point and wave your hands and jump up and down, like he was any more special or any more beautiful of a person than any of the thousands that have already lost their lives in these wars . .. . . wars we are still fighting.

Until we get out of afganistan and iraq entirely I'm going to file this death under, "Just another war death and I'm sick of war"

Unless you want to pretend it's special. It's not special. It's awful and horrible just like all the rest.


The issue is that it's looking like there was a terrorist attack on our consulate. We were told that a peaceful protest, over a movie nobody had ever heard of, got out of hand and four people died. I doubt any of them were "1% guys" like Obama. Soldiers and ambassadors don't make that much.

It should upset you that our government is STILL willing to lie to us when it's politically beneficial. This was to be a new and transparent administration.

Christ, at least they could have blamed the lack of security on some low level bureaucrat. I expect they will by weeks end.
 
2012-10-10 11:53:00 PM

Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.


I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.
 
2012-10-11 12:02:05 AM

theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.


You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.
 
2012-10-11 12:08:28 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.


You know there's a reason they call it a "budget" and not an "account" right?

The money's already spent. It would require another budget bill to spend the money to increase security at the embassies.

Seriously how farking hard is that to understand?
 
2012-10-11 12:22:47 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.

You know there's a reason they call it a "budget" and not an "account" right?

The money's already spent. It would require another budget bill to spend the money to increase security at the embassies.

Seriously how farking ...


Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.
 
2012-10-11 12:23:49 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.


Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try and score some points over a couple America corpses.

So clear this one up: How exactly was it politically beneficial for Obama to put out the "protest" line? It seems that, given that the narrative was "Obama is apologizing for freedom of speech", the terror attack would have been preferable.

And why did the media--including the entire foreign press--continue to report it as a protest for several days afterwords? It seems that all signs point to "the fog of war", what you're trying to assign to a massive conspiracy.
 
2012-10-11 12:23:56 AM
It's not so much that I disagree with his positions, it's that I can't figure out what his positions are.

buddysblog.typepad.com
 
2012-10-11 12:25:42 AM
HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

It's quite obvious that you do not have a farking clue what you are talking about. What a dick.
 
2012-10-11 12:27:28 AM

udhq: So clear this one up: How exactly was it politically beneficial for Obama to put out the "protest" line? It seems that, given that the narrative was "Obama is apologizing for freedom of speech", the terror attack would have been preferable.


THIS
 
2012-10-11 12:28:54 AM

theMightyRegeya: The problem with runaway military spending is that eventually, you run out of other people's money.



It's only evil socialism when it goes to other people not to conservatives
 
2012-10-11 12:38:51 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.


You've always hated me because I point out that budgets do not work that way?
 
2012-10-11 12:44:01 AM

udhq: Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try a ...


Sorry for the trim.

I think allowing a consulate to be attacked, resulting in four deaths, on Sept 11, after multiple requests for increased security, is not something to campaign on. It also doesn't make the "Arab Spring" failure look much better.

The media may have been in the fog of war, but the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is not. The State Department is now admitting that it started with explosions and gunfire. The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I guess our $600B defense budget is not buying all the high tech toys I thought it was. DARPA should stop developing cockroach cams and focus on getting Obama networked to the off the shelf consumer electronics we use to monitor our properties in war zones.
 
2012-10-11 12:45:48 AM

Msphere: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

It's quite obvious that you do not have a farking clue what you are talking about. What a dick.


How's that? How so? Regarding what? Thanks for contributing.
 
2012-10-11 12:46:06 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I


Exactly how would an "armed mob" immediately point to a coordinated terrorist attack, given that there were protests in other countries on that same day?
 
2012-10-11 12:49:01 AM
As well as the blatant hypocrisy, I'm also enjoying hearing the same people who said:

"Obama had nothing to do with killing Osama, he can;t take any credit for it."

now saying:

"Obama is personally responsible for not providing enough security to the embassy, the blame is entirely his"

And thinking we won't notice...
 
2012-10-11 12:50:29 AM

Mayhem_2006: As well as the blatant hypocrisy, I'm also enjoying hearing the same people who said:

"Obama had nothing to do with killing Osama, he can;t take any credit for it."

now saying:

"Obama is personally responsible for not providing enough security to the embassy, the blame is entirely his"

And thinking we won't notice...


They think we won't notice because they won't notice.
 
2012-10-11 12:54:23 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.

You've always hated me because I point out that budgets do not work that way?


Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.
 
2012-10-11 12:56:30 AM
The disconnect exemphlied by Republicans is just amazing to me, what are they thinking in their 'Bizzaro' world, I ask you? Taxes, they complain that they're too high, but every indicator says taxes are the lowest in recent memory. Gun rights, they say Obama is going to confiscate their firearms, even though nothing could be further from the truth (although their candidate, Romney, restricted automatic weapon sales while he was In Mass.), go figure. Socialism/Anti-Capitalism, the stock market has doubled in value under Obama...and so so so many more examples that Republican thinking is just plain misinformed that it just boggles the mind. Who _are_ these people, really?
 
2012-10-11 12:57:20 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.


Please prove that embassy security can be moved around when the budget is cut by 4% then. You seem to think it's certainly possible. You must have some evidence then, don't you? Come on, you must have ONE thing to cite that says it's possible to move embassy security around with the budget the way it is now. Anything?
 
2012-10-11 12:58:34 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I

Exactly how would an "armed mob" immediately point to a coordinated terrorist attack, given that there were protests in other countries on that same day?


Because they were shooting and launching RPGs, whilst doing the synchronized dance moves from the Billy Jean video.

fark off.
 
2012-10-11 12:59:09 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: udhq: Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try a ...

Sorry for the trim.

I think allowing a consulate to be attacked, resulting in four deaths, on Sept 11, after multiple requests for increased security, is not something to campaign on. It also doesn't make the "Arab Spring" failure look much better.

The media may have been in the fog of war, but the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is not. The State Department is now admitting that it started with explosions and gunfire. The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I guess our $600B defense budget is not buying all the high tech toys I thought it was. DARPA should stop developing cockroach cams and focus on getting Obama networked to the off the shelf consumer electronics we use to monitor our properties in war zones.


"Arab Spring Failure???

You do realize that almost half a billion people that were living in brutal, repressive dictatorships in 2008 are now living in democracies, don't you?

You still didn't mention why Obama would go against his own political best interests, engaging in this alleged conspiracy in order to a push a storyline that was LESS politically beneficial to him.

Look, you're asking me to believe a ridiculously convoluted scheme by the white house to push an unfavorable narrative, and you're doing in the absence of even a shred of evidence to support your conspiracy theory, and your doing it in the presence of a much simpler and much more likely reality. \We're hearing hoofbeats and you're saying "unicorn."

In short, you're making an extraordinary claim without extraordinary evidence.
 
2012-10-11 12:59:37 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Because they were shooting and launching RPGs, whilst doing the synchronized dance moves from the Billy Jean video.

fark off.


And you can tell that this is not part of the protests because...how?

Seriously at least answer one question without getting pissy.
 
2012-10-11 01:00:42 AM
"I want seven hearings a week, times 40 weeks."

www1.pictures.zimbio.com
 
2012-10-11 01:01:51 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.

Please prove that embassy security can be moved around when the budget is cut by 4% then. You seem to think it's certainly possible. You must have some evidence then, don't you? Come on, you must have ONE thing to cite that says it's possible to move embassy security around with the budget the way it is now. Anything?


U.S. increases embassy security worldwide after Libya attack
 
2012-10-11 01:02:12 AM
HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

How's that? How so? Regarding what? Thanks for contributing.

Regarding what? Making posts and ludicrous statements regarding things about which you know exactly nothing. You're not State Department, you're not security, and you sure as hell don't have a military background. Yet you mouth off about what the Obama administration "should have known" or what our "defense budget" should have bought us, or what the people knew or didn't know at the time, in the immediate aftermath, or now.

That's what being a dick is.

People who are not dicks ask questions. People who are not dicks try to understand and become educated on a subject. People who are not dicks draw parallels between what they have experienced and try to draw reasonable conclusions about the unbelievable complexity of the real world.

You do none of these things. You are a dick.
 
2012-10-11 01:02:58 AM
And yet we still have money for the TSA...

/sigh.
 
2012-10-11 01:07:06 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.

Please prove that embassy security can be moved around when the budget is cut by 4% then. You seem to think it's certainly possible. You must have some evidence then, don't you? Come on, you must have ONE thing to cite that says it's possible to move embassy security around with the budget the way it is now. Anything?

U.S. increases embassy security worldwide after Libya attack


Here's my favorite part of that article.

"No U.S. Marines were guarding the consulate at the time of the attack, according to U.S. officials. But that is not necessarily unusual, Burton said.

"Having the Marines can be viewed as politically sensitive at times," Burton said.

It can also raise the profile of an installation and invite unwanted attention or attacks, he said."

Another part:

"The United States deployed a group of Marines called a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team to Libya to help secure U.S. facilities, two U.S. officials said Wednesday"

These would not be part of normal diplomatic security. They only are activated after the embassy is attacked. Care to try again?
 
2012-10-11 01:07:41 AM

udhq: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: udhq: Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try a ...

Sorry for the trim.

I think allowing a consulate to be attacked, resulting in four deaths, on Sept 11, after multiple requests for increased security, is not something to campaign on. It also doesn't make the "Arab Spring" failure look much better.

The media may have been in the fog of war, but the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is not. The State Department is now admitting that it started with explosions and gunfire. The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I guess our $600B defense budget is not buying all the high tech toys I thought it was. DARPA should stop developing cockroach cams and focus on getting Obama networked to the off the shelf consumer electronics we use to monitor our properties in war zones.

"Arab Spring Failure???

You do realize that almost half a billion people that were living in brutal, repressive dictatorships in 2008 are now living in democracies, don't you?

You still didn't mention why Obama would go against his own political best interests, engaging in this alleged conspiracy in order to a push a storyline that was LESS politically beneficial to him.

Look, you're asking me to believe a ridiculously convoluted scheme by the white house to push an unfavorable narrative, and you're doing in the absence of even a shred of evidence to support your conspiracy theory, and your doing it in the presence of a much simpler and much more likely reality. \We're hearing hoofbeats and you're saying "unicorn."

In short, you're making an extraordinary claim without extraordinary ev ...


My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?

I can only guess as to why the truth is so different from what we were told a month ago, but it is.

Seriously, close FARK and go read up on this topic a bit.
 
2012-10-11 01:09:56 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?


Your "shred of evidence" is that there were a bunch of people outside the embassy. HOLY CRAP! STOP THE PRESSES! THERE WERE MUSLIMS PROTESTING AN EMBASSY ON A DAY WHEN MANY MUSLIMS WERE PROTESTING MANY EMBASSIES! THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IMMEDIATELY!
 
2012-10-11 01:12:05 AM
I like how you can pose yourself as an expert on the subject just because you cite a link that you clearly haven't read and doesn't say what you think it says.
 
2012-10-11 01:13:45 AM

theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.


you shift all the blame to the other side... and it goes back and forth keeping moderates in the middle off balance. EXACTLY like my now patented teeter-totter analogy!

Again, R's and D's agree on some things. like growing gov, oppressing liberties, and ignoring whichever parts of the constitution are inconvenient at the time. They have people so wound up on the unsolvable issues that no one seems to notice. Abortion will never have consensus, gay rights will never have consensus, etc... we focus on these because the media is paid to keep up the firestorm to distract us from the areas in which R and D are colluding to rob the public and enrich themselves while treating citizens as a doormat or worse. Our incarceration rate is through the roof and we can't pay our own bills. We have issues that could be solved if we'd start focusing on problems that MIGHT be able to be solved.
 
2012-10-11 01:13:52 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Because they were shooting and launching RPGs, whilst doing the synchronized dance moves from the Billy Jean video.

fark off.

And you can tell that this is not part of the protests because...how?

Seriously at least answer one question without getting pissy.


OK. Call it a violent protest, over a unknown movie, on the anniversary of 9/11. Hell, call the first 9/11 attack a protest. Whatever makes you feel right.

I'm not pissy. I get tired of you quickly. More quickly when I read "how farking hard is it..."
 
2012-10-11 01:16:48 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: OK. Call it a violent protest, over a unknown movie, on the anniversary of 9/11. Hell, call the first 9/11 attack a protest. Whatever makes you feel right.


The first 9/11 attack didn't occur on a day in which many other planes were crashing. That was pretty much it for plane crashes that day. See the difference?

You tire of me quickly because you don't like thinking.
 
2012-10-11 01:17:05 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?

I can only guess as to why the truth is so different from what we were told a month ago, but it is.

Seriously, close FARK and go read up on this topic a bit.


This thread exists because 2 Romney advisers stopped high-fiving each other for long enough to do the electoral math, then in their panic, they opened a newspaper, found something that sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and decided to try and see if it stuck.

I've read TFA, several articles even, and I've concluded that there is a reason that you can't provide even a shred of evidence of any wrongdoing or intent to deceive.

From you, and from the TFA, I just keeping hearing the classic Donald Trump cop-out "I don't know if it's true, but wouldn't it be big news if it were?" That's not enough for me, and if you were really thinking critically about the situation and didn't have some kind of forgone conclusion formed by your feelings about Obama, I suspect it wouldn't be enough for you either.
 
2012-10-11 01:18:08 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?

Your "shred of evidence" is that there were a bunch of people outside the embassy. HOLY CRAP! STOP THE PRESSES! THERE WERE MUSLIMS PROTESTING AN EMBASSY ON A DAY WHEN MANY MUSLIMS WERE PROTESTING MANY EMBASSIES! THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IMMEDIATELY!


The fist thing that let anyone know there was a problem was explosions and gunfire. They then went to the cameras and saw they were under attack, not being picketed. It wasn't a farking sit in that went bad. It started as an attack.

Man, you're in an information vacuum here. Go read up on this topic. I've had it.
 
2012-10-11 01:20:16 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: The fist thing that let anyone know there was a problem was explosions and gunfire. They then went to the cameras and saw they were under attack, not being picketed. It wasn't a farking sit in that went bad. It started as an attack.

Man, you're in an information vacuum here. Go read up on this topic. I've had it.


And those people had cause to believe that it wasn't protest-related because of...what, again? Did they grab a guy and go "hey, is this the same thing as those other protests that are going on right at this moment? Or something else? We need to know RIGHT NOW because finding out your motive is wayyyy more important than staying the hell alive"

I mean honestly, how stupid does that sound? That's literally what you are expecting the embassy and the State Department in general to have done while the attack was going on.
 
2012-10-11 01:20:53 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Man, you're in an information vacuum here. Go read up on this topic. I've had it.


Your problem is that I have read up on the topic and no amount of your handwaving is going to remove logic from my thinking.
 
2012-10-11 01:22:36 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?

Your "shred of evidence" is that there were a bunch of people outside the embassy. HOLY CRAP! STOP THE PRESSES! THERE WERE MUSLIMS PROTESTING AN EMBASSY ON A DAY WHEN MANY MUSLIMS WERE PROTESTING MANY EMBASSIES! THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IMMEDIATELY!

The fist thing that let anyone know there was a problem was explosions and gunfire. They then went to the cameras and saw they were under attack, not being picketed. It wasn't a farking sit in that went bad. It started as an attack.

Man, you're in an information vacuum here. Go read up on this topic. I've had it.


I don't know why it matters. Why are you so focused on the fact that the White House was tempered and didn't declare it a terrorist attack immediately but waited for sure confirmation before determining that it wasn't just a protest but a coordinated terror attack? What's the difference? It doesn't change a single thing that happened. It doesn't help us keep it from happening again. It doesn't help Obama's position to say it was one or the other. Either way it was a terrible day.
 
2012-10-11 01:24:23 AM

SquiggsIN: I don't know why it matters. Why are you so focused on the fact that the White House was tempered and didn't declare it a terrorist attack immediately but waited for sure confirmation before determining that it wasn't just a protest but a coordinated terror attack? What's the difference? It doesn't change a single thing that happened. It doesn't help us keep it from happening again. It doesn't help Obama's position to say it was one or the other. Either way it was a terrible day.


Don't you understand? As soon as you see weapons in a crowd you're supposed to yell TERRORIST ATTACK and then immediately wet your pants.
 
2012-10-11 01:24:32 AM

Business as usual in GOPville / Teabagistan

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-11 01:32:10 AM

cameroncrazy1984: SquiggsIN: I don't know why it matters. Why are you so focused on the fact that the White House was tempered and didn't declare it a terrorist attack immediately but waited for sure confirmation before determining that it wasn't just a protest but a coordinated terror attack? What's the difference? It doesn't change a single thing that happened. It doesn't help us keep it from happening again. It doesn't help Obama's position to say it was one or the other. Either way it was a terrible day.

Don't you understand? As soon as you see weapons in a crowd you're supposed to yell TERRORIST ATTACK and then immediately wet your pants.


Oh yeah. I forgot was that something Glenn Beck taught us? Or was it another of the alarmists spreading fear for political gain?
 
2012-10-11 01:36:13 AM
If you are interested, Wired has a pretty good article that was written after today's House Oversight Committee meeting:
State Department: We Monitored Libya Attack 'in Almost Real Time'
I'm tired of arguing with people that spend any amount of time making funny cat GIFs in Photoshop.
 
2012-10-11 01:39:51 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.

You've always hated me because I point out that budgets do not work that way?

Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.



And out comes another concerned troll. yawn

This is so boring. I can't wait for the GOP to get trashed next month
 
2012-10-11 01:41:48 AM

SquiggsIN: Again, R's and D's agree on some things. like growing gov, oppressing liberties, and ignoring whichever parts of the constitution are inconvenient at the time. They have people so wound up on the unsolvable issues that no one seems to notice. Abortion will never have consensus, gay rights will never have consensus, etc... we focus on these because the media is paid to keep up the firestorm to distract us from the areas in which R and D are colluding to rob the public and enrich themselves while treating citizens as a doormat or worse. Our incarceration rate is through the roof and we can't pay our own bills. We have issues that could be solved if we'd start focusing on problems that MIGHT be able to be solved.



No, both sides are not equally bad. Stop pretending that
 
2012-10-11 01:44:48 AM

GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful

You do realize that it takes money to beef up security, right? The White house and the state department can only work with what they are given by congress, right?

You are either a troll or shamefully stupid.
 
2012-10-11 01:50:30 AM

intelligent comment below: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.

You've always hated me because I point out that budgets do not work that way?

Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.


And out comes another concerned troll. yawn

This is so boring. I can't wait for the GOP to get trashed next month


Funny. The same memes from years ago. No substance. Just a tad more moronic than the fine readers at CNN or HP.

The four dead guys were concerned when their oxygen was replaced by carbon monoxide. I've never considered being concerned with MY government a bad trait.

Too boring? Then return to your Democratic(not liberal) circle jerk. Ignore me, it's what most people with nothing to say do.
 
2012-10-11 02:11:58 AM

intelligent comment below: SquiggsIN: Again, R's and D's agree on some things. like growing gov, oppressing liberties, and ignoring whichever parts of the constitution are inconvenient at the time. They have people so wound up on the unsolvable issues that no one seems to notice. Abortion will never have consensus, gay rights will never have consensus, etc... we focus on these because the media is paid to keep up the firestorm to distract us from the areas in which R and D are colluding to rob the public and enrich themselves while treating citizens as a doormat or worse. Our incarceration rate is through the roof and we can't pay our own bills. We have issues that could be solved if we'd start focusing on problems that MIGHT be able to be solved.


No, both sides are not equally bad. Stop pretending that



The Republicans and Democrats are more alike than unalike. Yes, there are distinct differences in the parties' political platforms. It all looks very clear on paper. But for one who has studied the actions and accomplishments of the two major political parties over my lifetime, I have become disillusioned to the point where I cannot accept anything a politician says at his/her word. I place high value on a person's character, particularly on honesty and trustworthiness. I demand that in the person that I vote to represent me. I want a straight-talker, who will tell me what I need to hear, no matter whether I will like what I hear.

To my jaundiced eye and mind, the primary goal of the two major parties is not to pursue and promote the betterment of the country and the people who live in it, but to remain in power. The parties feign ill will toward one another on many an issue, preying on people's base emotions to divide them, influence them, and to cultivate support to one base or the other. It is a game of give-and-take that is re-enacted every election period. Yet the two major parties will come together and present an united front, whenever threatened by the emergence of a third political party.

Judge Napolitano delivers a monologue " What If " on his Freedom Watch show (Fox Business News), which I find insightful and inquisitive. Review the video for yourself on YouTube. The monologue expresses how I feel about our government more eloquently than I ever could: Link

In closing, my own little words of wisdom: Spend time and effort promoting and explaining your own position or goals, versus only disparaging those of the opposition. Where possible, frame your critique of another's position or goals in a constructive manner, so people can gain insight from your argument. Acknowledge and respect a difference of opinion. Avoid forms of slander (e.g. name-calling ); this is a sign of immaturity.

Finally, go out and vote for the person that you wish to represent you. Make a choice for which you can be proud. Make a stand. The country cannot improve if its citizens settle for the "lesser of two evils".
 
2012-10-11 02:25:22 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Funny. The same memes from years ago. No substance. Just a tad more moronic than the fine readers at CNN or HP.

The four dead guys were concerned when their oxygen was replaced by carbon monoxide. I've never considered being concerned with MY government a bad trait.

Too boring? Then return to your Democratic(not liberal) circle jerk. Ignore me, it's what most people with nothing to say do.



Just like I said, you're very concerned with the way 0bama is running the show here. And you felt the need to come out from under your rock and let everyone know about it. What is strange is all the different trolls who magically appear for a day then are gone the next. Then they come back a few days or weeks later. So who else do you post as?
 
2012-10-11 02:25:32 AM
Democrat thinking:

Dems: We got 100 billion this year for this program. We now want 200 Billion.
Reps: No. We will give you 120 billion
Dems: OMFG! They cut the program by 80 billion dollars! That's 40%! Republicans cut the program by 40%! OMFG!!!!

Democrats have been playing that game for decades. As they long as they have enough tards to swallow the crap they will keep it going.
 
2012-10-11 02:36:14 AM

muck4doo: Democrat thinking:

Dems: We got 100 billion this year for this program. We now want 200 Billion.
Reps: No. We will give you 120 billion
Dems: OMFG! They cut the program by 80 billion dollars! That's 40%! Republicans cut the program by 40%! OMFG!!!!

Democrats have been playing that game for decades. As they long as they have enough tards to swallow the crap they will keep it going.



Republican logic: All spending every year should stay the same, there's absolutely no reason why even 20 billion more than last year is not enough to cover everything, because, magic.
 
2012-10-11 02:36:52 AM

Via Infinito: Being in Congress must be really awesome.

As Jon Stewart once said, "you get the fun of breaking shiat and the joy of complaining the shiat you just broke doesn't work."


That is both Smart and Funny, and if there were a Sad button I'd click that too.
 
2012-10-11 02:40:20 AM

James F. Campbell: thismomentinblackhistory: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.

Why is this?

Because people will say to the Democrats, "Why didn't you stop them?!" And the Democrats will get the blame.


Thisitty this this this.
 
2012-10-11 02:51:14 AM

intelligent comment below: muck4doo: Democrat thinking:

Dems: We got 100 billion this year for this program. We now want 200 Billion.
Reps: No. We will give you 120 billion
Dems: OMFG! They cut the program by 80 billion dollars! That's 40%! Republicans cut the program by 40%! OMFG!!!!

Democrats have been playing that game for decades. As they long as they have enough tards to swallow the crap they will keep it going.


Republican logic: All spending every year should stay the same, there's absolutely no reason why even 20 billion more than last year is not enough to cover everything, because, magic.


And you're dishonest enough to know that I am right, but still give the same bullshiat lines to appeal to your fellow idiots.
 
2012-10-11 03:03:24 AM

intelligent comment below: muck4doo: Democrat thinking:

Dems: We got 100 billion this year for this program. We now want 200 Billion.
Reps: No. We will give you 120 billion
Dems: OMFG! They cut the program by 80 billion dollars! That's 40%! Republicans cut the program by 40%! OMFG!!!!

Democrats have been playing that game for decades. As they long as they have enough tards to swallow the crap they will keep it going.


Republican logic: All spending every year should stay the same, there's absolutely no reason why even 20 billion more than last year is not enough to cover everything, because, magic.


Yup. In fact we should be cutting every year. 16 trillion is a lot of money to pay back. Or the fed can keep doing its thing and my '90 Camry will eventually be worth the 25K I owe in student loans.

So are all the Democratic voters now in favor of a robust military? You do know that we don't sent HS teachers to defend our property in hostile environments, don't you?
 
2012-10-11 03:43:47 AM

muck4doo: I am right


*pats the troll on the head*

it's okay sweetie

One day you will be all grown up too
 
2012-10-11 03:44:35 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Yup. In fact we should be cutting every year. 16 trillion is a lot of money to pay back. Or the fed can keep doing its thing and my '90 Camry will eventually be worth the 25K I owe in student loans.



Compares personal finances to a government? check

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: So are all the Democratic voters now in favor of a robust military? You do know that we don't sent HS teachers to defend our property in hostile environments, don't you?



You think soldiers defend property? how cute
 
2012-10-11 03:46:33 AM

Cpl.D: Kittypie070: free cell from obama 2012-10-10 08:25:09 PM

(blart)

My my my, what a shockingly original and creative username.

Tell me about it. Like I need to get Freecell from Obama. Windows comes with it already with a default install.


now now, don't you know that he's begging for the release of this man:
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-10-11 04:52:59 AM
As long as it doesn't cut into the GOP congressional hookers, blow, junket and hush money, eh wot, Jasey?
 
2012-10-11 05:08:10 AM
Mitt Romney is out there right now, campaigning on the story of the man who died after the GOP left DSS and contractors hanging out to dry with no backup. These people are not simply bad at politics, they are evil incarnate... the will dance on the bodies they create to make their way into more power.
 
2012-10-11 07:15:03 AM
Terrorists on American soil kill 3,000+ citizens on 9/11 - totally not the republican president's fault. Don't even say that it is.
 
2012-10-11 07:26:50 AM
Chaffetz and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who chairs the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, claim those concerns were ignored.

"It seems to be a coordinated effort between the White House and the State Department, from Secretary [Hillary] Clinton to President Obama's White House," Chaffetz told Fox and Friends on Tuesday.


How do you coordinate to ignore something?

Anyhoo, this is going precisely nowhere and will actually blow up in Issa's face if he pushes it too hard. Should have learned from his Fast & Furious failure.
 
2012-10-11 07:38:31 AM

plewis: GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful
You do realize that it takes money to beef up security, right? The White house and the state department can only work with what they are given by congress, right?

You are either a troll or shamefully stupid.


How were you were able to pick my comment out of the thread while somehow missing all of the other posts that refute your argument? Does that require special glasses? Or did you actually see them and choose to ignore them in order to give yourself an excuse to lash out at me?
I suspect it's the second option, which (ironically) would reinforce my point; people on here will stoop to almost any level to score a cheap political point, which makes them just as reprehensible as their opponents.
 
2012-10-11 08:24:13 AM
it doesn't matter that they had plenty of funds
it wouldn't matter if proposed changes were to be made in 2013
it doesn't matter if the people there asked for assistance before the incident, and got nada
it wouldn't matter if the rich people placed in authority by potus completely dropped the ball
it doesn't matter that dems are now pretending to be big fans of spending $ on the military

It's the fault of the republicans
and probably the jews
and satan
 
2012-10-11 09:24:04 AM

MoeSzyslak: [i159.photobucket.com image 600x435]


so you're saying the congressman didn't say "absolutely" when asked that question. i watched it live, by the way, and it sure seemed so to me.
 
2012-10-11 09:56:07 AM
The budget is so minuscule that this year...

"on May 7, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool's new Chevrolet Volts. The purchase was a part of the State Department's "Energy Efficiency Sweep of Europe" initiative, which included hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on green program expenditures at various U.S. Embassies."

So how could they possibly have enough money for security when they have to buy charging stations?
 
2012-10-11 10:05:09 AM

FlashHarry: MoeSzyslak: [i159.photobucket.com image 600x435]

so you're saying the congressman didn't say "absolutely" when asked that question. i watched it live, by the way, and it sure seemed so to me.


I saw the same thing... no hesitation on his part, he said it loudly and with confidence.
 
2012-10-11 11:16:49 AM

Cobataiwan: The budget is so minuscule that this year...

"on May 7, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool's new Chevrolet Volts. The purchase was a part of the State Department's "Energy Efficiency Sweep of Europe" initiative, which included hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on green program expenditures at various U.S. Embassies."

So how could they possibly have enough money for security when they have to buy charging stations?


Oh look, yet another idiot who doesn't understand what budgeting is.
 
2012-10-11 11:30:42 AM

spamdog: Oh dear. Lt. Cheese Weasel is in full-on election bullshiat mode. He knows he's being dishonest, but doesn't care.

Him amongst others.


It's the only thing that's working for them, so why not?
 
2012-10-11 04:32:23 PM

Johnny Swank: Terrorists on American soil kill 3,000+ citizens on 9/11 - totally not the republican president's fault. Don't even say that it is.



Remind me again who was dancing on the graves of the dead to blame Bush on 9/12?
 
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