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2012-10-10 10:55:29 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that?


Uh oh, is your narrative falling apart?
 
2012-10-10 10:57:09 PM  

spamdog: Lt. Cheese Weasel: And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that?

Uh oh, is your narrative falling apart?


It's not always easy being a weasel.
 
2012-10-10 11:04:05 PM  

MFAWG: free cell from obama: ifarkthereforiam: Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.


You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.

Was it actual intelligence, or was it the sort of intelligence that led Don Rumsfeld to famously say that the WMD were north, south, east, and west of Baghdad?

And yes, that is a serious question. You people need to come to grips with the fact that nobody buys you bullshiat anymore, especially, MOST especially in foreign policy and defense.


I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

What absolutely amazes me is how the right is wetting their collective magic panties complaining about Obama's "negligence" over 4 people dying in Libya in a "terrorist attack" - but conveniently forgetting and remaining silent on George W. Bush's negligence prior to the 9-11 terrorist attack which led to 3,000 deaths?!

And can you imagine the uproar from the right had the left actually accused GWB of negligence in the same time frame after 9-11 as they are regarding Libya? We would've been accused of being anti-American, unpatriotic, and unsupportive of the troops.

Maybe we should start fighting like they do. For example... next time someone complains about "Obamacare," why not use their tactics and say, "You do realize that Israel had universal, single payer health care. Why do you hate the Jews so much?" As ridiculous as that sounds, that's exactly how they fight. So maybe that's the only thing they understand and might actually respond to... ridiculous non sequiturs?
 
2012-10-10 11:08:26 PM  
So how much is the State Dept budget annually today?

And why did the Ambassador in a hostile country have less protection than Obama's kids have while they sit in a private school in DC? WTF?
 
2012-10-10 11:08:51 PM  

basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?


For me, it's the bold part.
 
2012-10-10 11:10:27 PM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

For me, it's the bold part.


So what do we do now, replace the current administration with one run by a pathological liar?

Good plan.
 
2012-10-10 11:12:07 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat.. And the State Dept, instead of actually using that pitiful 5 lbs of crap inside their heads to draw a line between two simple points with their farking crayons instead carried the DNC water and refused it for political purposes. And decent and honorable men died. I hope you're proud.


What part of "we're out of money" is so farking hard to understand?
 
2012-10-10 11:13:09 PM  

basham: ridiculous non sequiturs?


Actually, it would be great if the democrats would actually kick the shiat out of people sometimes. There's nothing wrong with it. They don't need to be milquetoasts, it's just the current style.

Be right, have facts and be a witty jerk about it.

/ if Obama pulled a 6 minute rant out and slammed every ( well, six minutes worth of ) mistruth that had come out of Romneys mouth one after another with hard facts, the entire US would adore him for it, friend and enemy alike. We love nothing more than watching someone get take down a peg.
 
2012-10-10 11:15:51 PM  
Damn, this is the best we can do?

The trolling four years ago at this time was feverish. I can't believe that this third-stringer is the best we can do anymore. Do you remember rushlimbaughsentme? And Gary? And the fake dentist? Those guys were pros. Hell, I probably put fifteen people on my kill list in October of 2008. It's not even worth the time and energy putting people on ignore anymore.

Fark trolling is a mere shadow of it's former self.
 
2012-10-10 11:22:59 PM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2012-10-10 11:23:19 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Damn, this is the best we can do?

The trolling four years ago at this time was feverish. I can't believe that this third-stringer is the best we can do anymore. Do you remember rushlimbaughsentme? And Gary? And the fake dentist? Those guys were pros. Hell, I probably put fifteen people on my kill list in October of 2008. It's not even worth the time and energy putting people on ignore anymore.

Fark trolling is a mere shadow of it's former self.



That's because anyone with a brain would have left working for a Republican long ago
 
2012-10-10 11:30:45 PM  
not sure why I am supposed to care about 1 dead guy. I know I know. He's part of the beltway guys, you know the 1% guys, the real power behind america, not those stupid jarheads in iraq or afganistan that get killed every day.

But I mean, people do get killed every day, by terrorists in africa in libya, iraq and iran. Now, today, I'm supposed to care because the 1%-ers arent supposed to die?

I mean it sucks, but I'm used to seeing americans come home in body bags, we've been at war for 10 years, and we are still at war.

Just one more casualty. Sucks. But not sure why anyone thinks you can point and wave your hands and jump up and down, like he was any more special or any more beautiful of a person than any of the thousands that have already lost their lives in these wars . .. . . wars we are still fighting.

Until we get out of afganistan and iraq entirely I'm going to file this death under, "Just another war death and I'm sick of war"

Unless you want to pretend it's special. It's not special. It's awful and horrible just like all the rest.
 
2012-10-10 11:35:03 PM  
The problem with runaway military spending is that eventually, you run out of other people's money.
 
2012-10-10 11:35:16 PM  

theMightyRegeya: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

For me, it's the bold part.

So what do we do now, replace the current administration with one run by a pathological liar?

Good plan.


I don't remember mentioning Romney. You didn't really defend Obama or his ever evolving story. It looks like he and his administration told a whopper to distract from their negligence. I'm going to focus on that right now.

I'm voting (L) this cycle because my state is going (D) no matter what I do. I lucked out. If I lived in a swing state I'd reluctantly vote for Romney. To me, Obama has been awful in every way.
 
2012-10-10 11:38:59 PM  

Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.


"In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them."

Well, this means the Republicans are absolved of all blame and Romney is automatically President for life.
 
2012-10-10 11:45:00 PM  

bonerici: not sure why I am supposed to care about 1 dead guy. I know I know. He's part of the beltway guys, you know the 1% guys, the real power behind america, not those stupid jarheads in iraq or afganistan that get killed every day.

But I mean, people do get killed every day, by terrorists in africa in libya, iraq and iran. Now, today, I'm supposed to care because the 1%-ers arent supposed to die?

I mean it sucks, but I'm used to seeing americans come home in body bags, we've been at war for 10 years, and we are still at war.

Just one more casualty. Sucks. But not sure why anyone thinks you can point and wave your hands and jump up and down, like he was any more special or any more beautiful of a person than any of the thousands that have already lost their lives in these wars . .. . . wars we are still fighting.

Until we get out of afganistan and iraq entirely I'm going to file this death under, "Just another war death and I'm sick of war"

Unless you want to pretend it's special. It's not special. It's awful and horrible just like all the rest.


The issue is that it's looking like there was a terrorist attack on our consulate. We were told that a peaceful protest, over a movie nobody had ever heard of, got out of hand and four people died. I doubt any of them were "1% guys" like Obama. Soldiers and ambassadors don't make that much.

It should upset you that our government is STILL willing to lie to us when it's politically beneficial. This was to be a new and transparent administration.

Christ, at least they could have blamed the lack of security on some low level bureaucrat. I expect they will by weeks end.
 
2012-10-10 11:53:00 PM  

Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.


I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.
 
2012-10-11 12:02:05 AM  

theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.


You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.
 
2012-10-11 12:08:28 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.


You know there's a reason they call it a "budget" and not an "account" right?

The money's already spent. It would require another budget bill to spend the money to increase security at the embassies.

Seriously how farking hard is that to understand?
 
2012-10-11 12:22:47 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.

You know there's a reason they call it a "budget" and not an "account" right?

The money's already spent. It would require another budget bill to spend the money to increase security at the embassies.

Seriously how farking ...


Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.
 
2012-10-11 12:23:49 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.


Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try and score some points over a couple America corpses.

So clear this one up: How exactly was it politically beneficial for Obama to put out the "protest" line? It seems that, given that the narrative was "Obama is apologizing for freedom of speech", the terror attack would have been preferable.

And why did the media--including the entire foreign press--continue to report it as a protest for several days afterwords? It seems that all signs point to "the fog of war", what you're trying to assign to a massive conspiracy.
 
2012-10-11 12:23:56 AM  
It's not so much that I disagree with his positions, it's that I can't figure out what his positions are.

buddysblog.typepad.com
 
2012-10-11 12:25:42 AM  
HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

It's quite obvious that you do not have a farking clue what you are talking about. What a dick.
 
2012-10-11 12:27:28 AM  

udhq: So clear this one up: How exactly was it politically beneficial for Obama to put out the "protest" line? It seems that, given that the narrative was "Obama is apologizing for freedom of speech", the terror attack would have been preferable.


THIS
 
2012-10-11 12:28:54 AM  

theMightyRegeya: The problem with runaway military spending is that eventually, you run out of other people's money.



It's only evil socialism when it goes to other people not to conservatives
 
2012-10-11 12:38:51 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.


You've always hated me because I point out that budgets do not work that way?
 
2012-10-11 12:44:01 AM  

udhq: Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try a ...


Sorry for the trim.

I think allowing a consulate to be attacked, resulting in four deaths, on Sept 11, after multiple requests for increased security, is not something to campaign on. It also doesn't make the "Arab Spring" failure look much better.

The media may have been in the fog of war, but the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is not. The State Department is now admitting that it started with explosions and gunfire. The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I guess our $600B defense budget is not buying all the high tech toys I thought it was. DARPA should stop developing cockroach cams and focus on getting Obama networked to the off the shelf consumer electronics we use to monitor our properties in war zones.
 
2012-10-11 12:45:48 AM  

Msphere: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

It's quite obvious that you do not have a farking clue what you are talking about. What a dick.


How's that? How so? Regarding what? Thanks for contributing.
 
2012-10-11 12:46:06 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I


Exactly how would an "armed mob" immediately point to a coordinated terrorist attack, given that there were protests in other countries on that same day?
 
2012-10-11 12:49:01 AM  
As well as the blatant hypocrisy, I'm also enjoying hearing the same people who said:

"Obama had nothing to do with killing Osama, he can;t take any credit for it."

now saying:

"Obama is personally responsible for not providing enough security to the embassy, the blame is entirely his"

And thinking we won't notice...
 
2012-10-11 12:50:29 AM  

Mayhem_2006: As well as the blatant hypocrisy, I'm also enjoying hearing the same people who said:

"Obama had nothing to do with killing Osama, he can;t take any credit for it."

now saying:

"Obama is personally responsible for not providing enough security to the embassy, the blame is entirely his"

And thinking we won't notice...


They think we won't notice because they won't notice.
 
2012-10-11 12:54:23 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.

You've always hated me because I point out that budgets do not work that way?


Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.
 
2012-10-11 12:56:30 AM  
The disconnect exemphlied by Republicans is just amazing to me, what are they thinking in their 'Bizzaro' world, I ask you? Taxes, they complain that they're too high, but every indicator says taxes are the lowest in recent memory. Gun rights, they say Obama is going to confiscate their firearms, even though nothing could be further from the truth (although their candidate, Romney, restricted automatic weapon sales while he was In Mass.), go figure. Socialism/Anti-Capitalism, the stock market has doubled in value under Obama...and so so so many more examples that Republican thinking is just plain misinformed that it just boggles the mind. Who _are_ these people, really?
 
2012-10-11 12:57:20 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.


Please prove that embassy security can be moved around when the budget is cut by 4% then. You seem to think it's certainly possible. You must have some evidence then, don't you? Come on, you must have ONE thing to cite that says it's possible to move embassy security around with the budget the way it is now. Anything?
 
2012-10-11 12:58:34 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I

Exactly how would an "armed mob" immediately point to a coordinated terrorist attack, given that there were protests in other countries on that same day?


Because they were shooting and launching RPGs, whilst doing the synchronized dance moves from the Billy Jean video.

fark off.
 
2012-10-11 12:59:09 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: udhq: Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try a ...

Sorry for the trim.

I think allowing a consulate to be attacked, resulting in four deaths, on Sept 11, after multiple requests for increased security, is not something to campaign on. It also doesn't make the "Arab Spring" failure look much better.

The media may have been in the fog of war, but the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is not. The State Department is now admitting that it started with explosions and gunfire. The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I guess our $600B defense budget is not buying all the high tech toys I thought it was. DARPA should stop developing cockroach cams and focus on getting Obama networked to the off the shelf consumer electronics we use to monitor our properties in war zones.


"Arab Spring Failure???

You do realize that almost half a billion people that were living in brutal, repressive dictatorships in 2008 are now living in democracies, don't you?

You still didn't mention why Obama would go against his own political best interests, engaging in this alleged conspiracy in order to a push a storyline that was LESS politically beneficial to him.

Look, you're asking me to believe a ridiculously convoluted scheme by the white house to push an unfavorable narrative, and you're doing in the absence of even a shred of evidence to support your conspiracy theory, and your doing it in the presence of a much simpler and much more likely reality. \We're hearing hoofbeats and you're saying "unicorn."

In short, you're making an extraordinary claim without extraordinary evidence.
 
2012-10-11 12:59:37 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Because they were shooting and launching RPGs, whilst doing the synchronized dance moves from the Billy Jean video.

fark off.


And you can tell that this is not part of the protests because...how?

Seriously at least answer one question without getting pissy.
 
2012-10-11 01:00:42 AM  
"I want seven hearings a week, times 40 weeks."

www1.pictures.zimbio.com
 
2012-10-11 01:01:51 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.

Please prove that embassy security can be moved around when the budget is cut by 4% then. You seem to think it's certainly possible. You must have some evidence then, don't you? Come on, you must have ONE thing to cite that says it's possible to move embassy security around with the budget the way it is now. Anything?


U.S. increases embassy security worldwide after Libya attack
 
2012-10-11 01:02:12 AM  
HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

How's that? How so? Regarding what? Thanks for contributing.

Regarding what? Making posts and ludicrous statements regarding things about which you know exactly nothing. You're not State Department, you're not security, and you sure as hell don't have a military background. Yet you mouth off about what the Obama administration "should have known" or what our "defense budget" should have bought us, or what the people knew or didn't know at the time, in the immediate aftermath, or now.

That's what being a dick is.

People who are not dicks ask questions. People who are not dicks try to understand and become educated on a subject. People who are not dicks draw parallels between what they have experienced and try to draw reasonable conclusions about the unbelievable complexity of the real world.

You do none of these things. You are a dick.
 
2012-10-11 01:02:58 AM  
And yet we still have money for the TSA...

/sigh.
 
2012-10-11 01:07:06 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.

Please prove that embassy security can be moved around when the budget is cut by 4% then. You seem to think it's certainly possible. You must have some evidence then, don't you? Come on, you must have ONE thing to cite that says it's possible to move embassy security around with the budget the way it is now. Anything?

U.S. increases embassy security worldwide after Libya attack


Here's my favorite part of that article.

"No U.S. Marines were guarding the consulate at the time of the attack, according to U.S. officials. But that is not necessarily unusual, Burton said.

"Having the Marines can be viewed as politically sensitive at times," Burton said.

It can also raise the profile of an installation and invite unwanted attention or attacks, he said."

Another part:

"The United States deployed a group of Marines called a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team to Libya to help secure U.S. facilities, two U.S. officials said Wednesday"

These would not be part of normal diplomatic security. They only are activated after the embassy is attacked. Care to try again?
 
2012-10-11 01:07:41 AM  

udhq: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: udhq: Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try a ...

Sorry for the trim.

I think allowing a consulate to be attacked, resulting in four deaths, on Sept 11, after multiple requests for increased security, is not something to campaign on. It also doesn't make the "Arab Spring" failure look much better.

The media may have been in the fog of war, but the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is not. The State Department is now admitting that it started with explosions and gunfire. The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I guess our $600B defense budget is not buying all the high tech toys I thought it was. DARPA should stop developing cockroach cams and focus on getting Obama networked to the off the shelf consumer electronics we use to monitor our properties in war zones.

"Arab Spring Failure???

You do realize that almost half a billion people that were living in brutal, repressive dictatorships in 2008 are now living in democracies, don't you?

You still didn't mention why Obama would go against his own political best interests, engaging in this alleged conspiracy in order to a push a storyline that was LESS politically beneficial to him.

Look, you're asking me to believe a ridiculously convoluted scheme by the white house to push an unfavorable narrative, and you're doing in the absence of even a shred of evidence to support your conspiracy theory, and your doing it in the presence of a much simpler and much more likely reality. \We're hearing hoofbeats and you're saying "unicorn."

In short, you're making an extraordinary claim without extraordinary ev ...


My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?

I can only guess as to why the truth is so different from what we were told a month ago, but it is.

Seriously, close FARK and go read up on this topic a bit.
 
2012-10-11 01:09:56 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?


Your "shred of evidence" is that there were a bunch of people outside the embassy. HOLY CRAP! STOP THE PRESSES! THERE WERE MUSLIMS PROTESTING AN EMBASSY ON A DAY WHEN MANY MUSLIMS WERE PROTESTING MANY EMBASSIES! THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IMMEDIATELY!
 
2012-10-11 01:12:05 AM  
I like how you can pose yourself as an expert on the subject just because you cite a link that you clearly haven't read and doesn't say what you think it says.
 
2012-10-11 01:13:52 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Because they were shooting and launching RPGs, whilst doing the synchronized dance moves from the Billy Jean video.

fark off.

And you can tell that this is not part of the protests because...how?

Seriously at least answer one question without getting pissy.


OK. Call it a violent protest, over a unknown movie, on the anniversary of 9/11. Hell, call the first 9/11 attack a protest. Whatever makes you feel right.

I'm not pissy. I get tired of you quickly. More quickly when I read "how farking hard is it..."
 
2012-10-11 01:16:48 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: OK. Call it a violent protest, over a unknown movie, on the anniversary of 9/11. Hell, call the first 9/11 attack a protest. Whatever makes you feel right.


The first 9/11 attack didn't occur on a day in which many other planes were crashing. That was pretty much it for plane crashes that day. See the difference?

You tire of me quickly because you don't like thinking.
 
2012-10-11 01:17:05 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?

I can only guess as to why the truth is so different from what we were told a month ago, but it is.

Seriously, close FARK and go read up on this topic a bit.


This thread exists because 2 Romney advisers stopped high-fiving each other for long enough to do the electoral math, then in their panic, they opened a newspaper, found something that sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and decided to try and see if it stuck.

I've read TFA, several articles even, and I've concluded that there is a reason that you can't provide even a shred of evidence of any wrongdoing or intent to deceive.

From you, and from the TFA, I just keeping hearing the classic Donald Trump cop-out "I don't know if it's true, but wouldn't it be big news if it were?" That's not enough for me, and if you were really thinking critically about the situation and didn't have some kind of forgone conclusion formed by your feelings about Obama, I suspect it wouldn't be enough for you either.
 
2012-10-11 01:18:08 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: My "shred of evidence" is all over the news today, why do you think this thread exists?

Your "shred of evidence" is that there were a bunch of people outside the embassy. HOLY CRAP! STOP THE PRESSES! THERE WERE MUSLIMS PROTESTING AN EMBASSY ON A DAY WHEN MANY MUSLIMS WERE PROTESTING MANY EMBASSIES! THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IMMEDIATELY!


The fist thing that let anyone know there was a problem was explosions and gunfire. They then went to the cameras and saw they were under attack, not being picketed. It wasn't a farking sit in that went bad. It started as an attack.

Man, you're in an information vacuum here. Go read up on this topic. I've had it.
 
2012-10-11 01:20:16 AM  

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: The fist thing that let anyone know there was a problem was explosions and gunfire. They then went to the cameras and saw they were under attack, not being picketed. It wasn't a farking sit in that went bad. It started as an attack.

Man, you're in an information vacuum here. Go read up on this topic. I've had it.


And those people had cause to believe that it wasn't protest-related because of...what, again? Did they grab a guy and go "hey, is this the same thing as those other protests that are going on right at this moment? Or something else? We need to know RIGHT NOW because finding out your motive is wayyyy more important than staying the hell alive"

I mean honestly, how stupid does that sound? That's literally what you are expecting the embassy and the State Department in general to have done while the attack was going on.
 
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