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2012-10-10 10:47:36 PM
I guess the Democrat-run Senate and President shouldn't have let that one go through.
 
2012-10-10 10:47:56 PM
It's like Republicans believe they've taken some sort of chelation agent that prevents irony from affecting them.
 
2012-10-10 10:48:16 PM

intelligent comment below: Lt. Cheese Weasel: This was a complete failure in leadership, administration and sensitivity. Gee, anniversary of 9/11? means nothing. Nothing to see here, nope....they love us. You farking liberal pillow biters are inept and corrupt. November is coming, update your resumes assholes, you're about to hit the roles like so many others have done under this incompetent boobs' administration. He's never held a job. He's never created one. Now he can retire to Hawaii, having never understood how this country works, what it means to sweat for your livelihood or sacrifice for an income. on your dime. Well done.

'You didn't make that.'


This from left field post makes no sense considering you were having discussions before... oops you thought this was being posted under a different name. Don't you hate it when open tor browsers get confused?


I have no alts. Go stuff your head into your ass and just be a normal partisan DNC lemming.
 
2012-10-10 10:48:20 PM

angryjd: Sorry, this Democratic talking point is a joke. There are 190 embassies and only seven of them have a significant risk of violence. Surely with a $300 billion a year defense price tag, we can get three marines to guard an embassy in a potential warzone? Stop pretending money has something to do with this incompetence.


ALL American embassies have security issues and it DOES require money.
 
2012-10-10 10:49:05 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that? You're not paying attention or you have a nastier share of the partisan pie you claim I'm eating. Because yours has worms in it and you like the taste of maggots.



I love how your side brings up the narrative that the attack was a failure of 0bama's leadership, and now that the truth comes out, suddenly it's straight back to the HELP IM BEING OPPRESSED narrative that conservatives love to have.

You sure weren't saying this when your kind was dancing on the graves of the dead blaming 0bama for the deaths. But now the true facts come out and your side cut funding for security, you demand everyone stand back and stop blaming the other side. Oh I just love it when you finally have to stop digging the grave and lay in it.
 
2012-10-10 10:49:38 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: James F. Campbell: Nobody cares. The Republicans could vote to fund live kitten eating, and the only ones who will take flak for it are the Democrats. The Republicans can say or do anything -- anything -- and it won't affect them.

Why is this?


Because their supporters are a mix of low intelligence assholes and high intelligence sociopaths.
 
2012-10-10 10:50:00 PM

intelligent comment below: Lt. Cheese Weasel: The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat..


No wonder you conservative trolls always come back for more thinking you "won" the last debates. You keep making up "facts"


It's not just a river, moran.
 
2012-10-10 10:50:37 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: udhq: Even if Obama did everything you claim, the only person who botched Benghazi worse than him was Romney. That's a fact.

Mitt Romney is a private citizen. You do know that, right?


No, he isn't. He is a presidential candidate who gets briefed by the CIA daily and has Secret Service protection.
 
2012-10-10 10:50:40 PM

Calmamity: thismomentinblackhistory: Why is this?

Because the media has been successfully cowed by bullshiat cries of bias and the Democrats are afraid to play hardball. Hardball to them being pointing out that the opposing party is rampant with hateful lying dickweasels.


Hence Obama's cringe worthy debate performance.
 
2012-10-10 10:51:11 PM

GoSlash27: Did the Republicans vote to cut State Department funding?
Yup.
Did that *in any way* affect the outcome of the Benghazi consulate's request for additional security?
Nope.

/This thread is shameful


I don't know if you've ever had a boss who says "You should have done more." While saying "We're cutting your resources." If you had then you'd understand why the criticism is valid.

Are you saying the State Department was not "in any way" responsible for the security there? Or are you saying that they had the resources available and simply failed to utilize them so funding isn't involved?
 
2012-10-10 10:52:13 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: udhq: Even if Obama did everything you claim, the only person who botched Benghazi worse than him was Romney. That's a fact.

Mitt Romney is a private citizen. You do know that, right?


Yes, and if he had been president that day, many, many more Americans would be dead as a result of him having blamed the embassy itself for the attack.

And if he is elected, and we return to the Bush doctrine, many more Americans will die in Iran.
 
2012-10-10 10:52:59 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: I have no alts. Go stuff your head into your ass and just be a normal partisan DNC lemming.



projection again? Is that the best you can do? You've been pathetically shilling this topic up for hours
 
2012-10-10 10:54:16 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: intelligent comment below: Lt. Cheese Weasel: The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat..


No wonder you conservative trolls always come back for more thinking you "won" the last debates. You keep making up "facts"

It's not just a river, moran.



You sound tired man, all this pathetic shilling for the most corrupt political party in American history. No wonder this is the best you can do, i bet you feel dead inside
 
2012-10-10 10:55:29 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that?


Uh oh, is your narrative falling apart?
 
2012-10-10 10:57:09 PM

spamdog: Lt. Cheese Weasel: And now, V4.0, it's the RNC's fault? Really? You buy that?

Uh oh, is your narrative falling apart?


It's not always easy being a weasel.
 
2012-10-10 11:04:05 PM

MFAWG: free cell from obama: ifarkthereforiam: Hey folks, the 'big lie' strategy works. Why do you think the republicans keep doing it?

/same goes for whining about being persecuted by the liberal press.


You must think Obama is a Republican then. He lied about some video for 10 days all the while having intelligence that it was a terrorist attack, just as the Libyan government had warned of for three days prior.

Was it actual intelligence, or was it the sort of intelligence that led Don Rumsfeld to famously say that the WMD were north, south, east, and west of Baghdad?

And yes, that is a serious question. You people need to come to grips with the fact that nobody buys you bullshiat anymore, especially, MOST especially in foreign policy and defense.


I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

What absolutely amazes me is how the right is wetting their collective magic panties complaining about Obama's "negligence" over 4 people dying in Libya in a "terrorist attack" - but conveniently forgetting and remaining silent on George W. Bush's negligence prior to the 9-11 terrorist attack which led to 3,000 deaths?!

And can you imagine the uproar from the right had the left actually accused GWB of negligence in the same time frame after 9-11 as they are regarding Libya? We would've been accused of being anti-American, unpatriotic, and unsupportive of the troops.

Maybe we should start fighting like they do. For example... next time someone complains about "Obamacare," why not use their tactics and say, "You do realize that Israel had universal, single payer health care. Why do you hate the Jews so much?" As ridiculous as that sounds, that's exactly how they fight. So maybe that's the only thing they understand and might actually respond to... ridiculous non sequiturs?
 
2012-10-10 11:08:26 PM
So how much is the State Dept budget annually today?

And why did the Ambassador in a hostile country have less protection than Obama's kids have while they sit in a private school in DC? WTF?
 
2012-10-10 11:08:51 PM

basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?


For me, it's the bold part.
 
2012-10-10 11:10:27 PM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

For me, it's the bold part.


So what do we do now, replace the current administration with one run by a pathological liar?

Good plan.
 
2012-10-10 11:12:07 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: The facts are, you pencil headed sloth are that there were sufficient funds to give them what they wanted irregardless of congressional budget bullshiat.. And the State Dept, instead of actually using that pitiful 5 lbs of crap inside their heads to draw a line between two simple points with their farking crayons instead carried the DNC water and refused it for political purposes. And decent and honorable men died. I hope you're proud.


What part of "we're out of money" is so farking hard to understand?
 
2012-10-10 11:13:09 PM

basham: ridiculous non sequiturs?


Actually, it would be great if the democrats would actually kick the shiat out of people sometimes. There's nothing wrong with it. They don't need to be milquetoasts, it's just the current style.

Be right, have facts and be a witty jerk about it.

/ if Obama pulled a 6 minute rant out and slammed every ( well, six minutes worth of ) mistruth that had come out of Romneys mouth one after another with hard facts, the entire US would adore him for it, friend and enemy alike. We love nothing more than watching someone get take down a peg.
 
2012-10-10 11:15:51 PM
Damn, this is the best we can do?

The trolling four years ago at this time was feverish. I can't believe that this third-stringer is the best we can do anymore. Do you remember rushlimbaughsentme? And Gary? And the fake dentist? Those guys were pros. Hell, I probably put fifteen people on my kill list in October of 2008. It's not even worth the time and energy putting people on ignore anymore.

Fark trolling is a mere shadow of it's former self.
 
2012-10-10 11:22:59 PM
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2012-10-10 11:23:19 PM

Tor_Eckman: Damn, this is the best we can do?

The trolling four years ago at this time was feverish. I can't believe that this third-stringer is the best we can do anymore. Do you remember rushlimbaughsentme? And Gary? And the fake dentist? Those guys were pros. Hell, I probably put fifteen people on my kill list in October of 2008. It's not even worth the time and energy putting people on ignore anymore.

Fark trolling is a mere shadow of it's former self.



That's because anyone with a brain would have left working for a Republican long ago
 
2012-10-10 11:30:45 PM
not sure why I am supposed to care about 1 dead guy. I know I know. He's part of the beltway guys, you know the 1% guys, the real power behind america, not those stupid jarheads in iraq or afganistan that get killed every day.

But I mean, people do get killed every day, by terrorists in africa in libya, iraq and iran. Now, today, I'm supposed to care because the 1%-ers arent supposed to die?

I mean it sucks, but I'm used to seeing americans come home in body bags, we've been at war for 10 years, and we are still at war.

Just one more casualty. Sucks. But not sure why anyone thinks you can point and wave your hands and jump up and down, like he was any more special or any more beautiful of a person than any of the thousands that have already lost their lives in these wars . .. . . wars we are still fighting.

Until we get out of afganistan and iraq entirely I'm going to file this death under, "Just another war death and I'm sick of war"

Unless you want to pretend it's special. It's not special. It's awful and horrible just like all the rest.
 
2012-10-10 11:35:03 PM
The problem with runaway military spending is that eventually, you run out of other people's money.
 
2012-10-10 11:35:16 PM

theMightyRegeya: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: basham: I need some kind hearted farker to help me out here. We hear "The administration lied about it being a terrorist attack." Whether it was, or whether it was about an anti-Islam video... what the fark difference does it make?!?

For me, it's the bold part.

So what do we do now, replace the current administration with one run by a pathological liar?

Good plan.


I don't remember mentioning Romney. You didn't really defend Obama or his ever evolving story. It looks like he and his administration told a whopper to distract from their negligence. I'm going to focus on that right now.

I'm voting (L) this cycle because my state is going (D) no matter what I do. I lucked out. If I lived in a swing state I'd reluctantly vote for Romney. To me, Obama has been awful in every way.
 
2012-10-10 11:38:59 PM

Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.


"In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them."

Well, this means the Republicans are absolved of all blame and Romney is automatically President for life.
 
2012-10-10 11:44:26 PM

theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

"In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them."

Well, this means the Republicans are absolved of all blame and Romney is automatically President for life.


Hey it worked for Chavez and Putin, right?
 
2012-10-10 11:45:00 PM

bonerici: not sure why I am supposed to care about 1 dead guy. I know I know. He's part of the beltway guys, you know the 1% guys, the real power behind america, not those stupid jarheads in iraq or afganistan that get killed every day.

But I mean, people do get killed every day, by terrorists in africa in libya, iraq and iran. Now, today, I'm supposed to care because the 1%-ers arent supposed to die?

I mean it sucks, but I'm used to seeing americans come home in body bags, we've been at war for 10 years, and we are still at war.

Just one more casualty. Sucks. But not sure why anyone thinks you can point and wave your hands and jump up and down, like he was any more special or any more beautiful of a person than any of the thousands that have already lost their lives in these wars . .. . . wars we are still fighting.

Until we get out of afganistan and iraq entirely I'm going to file this death under, "Just another war death and I'm sick of war"

Unless you want to pretend it's special. It's not special. It's awful and horrible just like all the rest.


The issue is that it's looking like there was a terrorist attack on our consulate. We were told that a peaceful protest, over a movie nobody had ever heard of, got out of hand and four people died. I doubt any of them were "1% guys" like Obama. Soldiers and ambassadors don't make that much.

It should upset you that our government is STILL willing to lie to us when it's politically beneficial. This was to be a new and transparent administration.

Christ, at least they could have blamed the lack of security on some low level bureaucrat. I expect they will by weeks end.
 
2012-10-10 11:53:00 PM

Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.


I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.
 
2012-10-11 12:02:05 AM

theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.


You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.
 
2012-10-11 12:08:28 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.


You know there's a reason they call it a "budget" and not an "account" right?

The money's already spent. It would require another budget bill to spend the money to increase security at the embassies.

Seriously how farking hard is that to understand?
 
2012-10-11 12:22:47 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.

You know there's a reason they call it a "budget" and not an "account" right?

The money's already spent. It would require another budget bill to spend the money to increase security at the embassies.

Seriously how farking ...


Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.
 
2012-10-11 12:23:49 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: theMightyRegeya: Cobataiwan: In fact, more House Democrats - 149 of them - voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/dems-accuse-gop-of-cutting-security- funding-in-libya-despite-majority-dem-support-for-vote/#ixzz28x7S75y6


I guess we don't need this context either.

I see what you're saying, but I've got to say that that story, and the comments, make my brain hurt. You'd think that those 147 Republicans did it just because the mean ol' Dems made them, or something. Hey, more Dems voted for it, so it's all the Dems' fault, vote them out and replace them with Republicans! Don't pay attention to this Republican who explained why it happened, it's a smear campaign to hurt our chances in the polls!

Yeah...I think we need some more independents in government. If your political position is that you have to shift all the blame onto the other guys, because there's an election coming up, and the issue deals with the deaths of decent people, someone needs to tell you to go pound sand.

I don't understand the mindset that leads people to think that voting in all one party, or another, will change things. We keep swinging back and forth, and very little changes; they just keep growing the government, they keep passing oppressive laws, they have no respect for the Constitution or the principles the country were founded on, and I'm not talking about just one party.

You know we are talking about a single digit cut in a two billion dollar budget, right? Did you see that mentioned many times up-thread?

The issue is what we were told(and why), what really happened, and the warnings that fell on deaf ears.

This budget cut controversy is a distraction.


Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try and score some points over a couple America corpses.

So clear this one up: How exactly was it politically beneficial for Obama to put out the "protest" line? It seems that, given that the narrative was "Obama is apologizing for freedom of speech", the terror attack would have been preferable.

And why did the media--including the entire foreign press--continue to report it as a protest for several days afterwords? It seems that all signs point to "the fog of war", what you're trying to assign to a massive conspiracy.
 
2012-10-11 12:23:56 AM
It's not so much that I disagree with his positions, it's that I can't figure out what his positions are.

buddysblog.typepad.com
 
2012-10-11 12:25:42 AM
HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

It's quite obvious that you do not have a farking clue what you are talking about. What a dick.
 
2012-10-11 12:27:28 AM

udhq: So clear this one up: How exactly was it politically beneficial for Obama to put out the "protest" line? It seems that, given that the narrative was "Obama is apologizing for freedom of speech", the terror attack would have been preferable.


THIS
 
2012-10-11 12:28:54 AM

theMightyRegeya: The problem with runaway military spending is that eventually, you run out of other people's money.



It's only evil socialism when it goes to other people not to conservatives
 
2012-10-11 12:38:51 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.


You've always hated me because I point out that budgets do not work that way?
 
2012-10-11 12:44:01 AM

udhq: Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try a ...


Sorry for the trim.

I think allowing a consulate to be attacked, resulting in four deaths, on Sept 11, after multiple requests for increased security, is not something to campaign on. It also doesn't make the "Arab Spring" failure look much better.

The media may have been in the fog of war, but the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is not. The State Department is now admitting that it started with explosions and gunfire. The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I guess our $600B defense budget is not buying all the high tech toys I thought it was. DARPA should stop developing cockroach cams and focus on getting Obama networked to the off the shelf consumer electronics we use to monitor our properties in war zones.
 
2012-10-11 12:45:48 AM

Msphere: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

It's quite obvious that you do not have a farking clue what you are talking about. What a dick.


How's that? How so? Regarding what? Thanks for contributing.
 
2012-10-11 12:46:06 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I


Exactly how would an "armed mob" immediately point to a coordinated terrorist attack, given that there were protests in other countries on that same day?
 
2012-10-11 12:49:01 AM
As well as the blatant hypocrisy, I'm also enjoying hearing the same people who said:

"Obama had nothing to do with killing Osama, he can;t take any credit for it."

now saying:

"Obama is personally responsible for not providing enough security to the embassy, the blame is entirely his"

And thinking we won't notice...
 
2012-10-11 12:50:29 AM

Mayhem_2006: As well as the blatant hypocrisy, I'm also enjoying hearing the same people who said:

"Obama had nothing to do with killing Osama, he can;t take any credit for it."

now saying:

"Obama is personally responsible for not providing enough security to the embassy, the blame is entirely his"

And thinking we won't notice...


They think we won't notice because they won't notice.
 
2012-10-11 12:54:23 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Oh man. Like that 2012 BIPARTISAN 4% reduction made it impossible to move a dozen or so guys with guns from Ottawa or Belize to the capitol of a "country" that has no real government and just wound up a civil war.

I've always hated you.

You've always hated me because I point out that budgets do not work that way?


Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.
 
2012-10-11 12:56:30 AM
The disconnect exemphlied by Republicans is just amazing to me, what are they thinking in their 'Bizzaro' world, I ask you? Taxes, they complain that they're too high, but every indicator says taxes are the lowest in recent memory. Gun rights, they say Obama is going to confiscate their firearms, even though nothing could be further from the truth (although their candidate, Romney, restricted automatic weapon sales while he was In Mass.), go figure. Socialism/Anti-Capitalism, the stock market has doubled in value under Obama...and so so so many more examples that Republican thinking is just plain misinformed that it just boggles the mind. Who _are_ these people, really?
 
2012-10-11 12:57:20 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: Are you suggesting that each consulate and embassy is allotted a certain amount of security and the State Department has no ability to shift resources from one place to another? Like there was just nothing that anyone could have done when they were WARNED that 9/11 anniversary attacks were likely all over the Arab world. And the first statements from the O admin. was based on what they knew at the time, and honest.

I've always hated you because you use every high school debate tactic you can to avoid being perceived as wrong. That's OK, you still look like a hero to the retards that frequent this place. Quite a legacy.


Please prove that embassy security can be moved around when the budget is cut by 4% then. You seem to think it's certainly possible. You must have some evidence then, don't you? Come on, you must have ONE thing to cite that says it's possible to move embassy security around with the budget the way it is now. Anything?
 
2012-10-11 12:58:34 AM

cameroncrazy1984: HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I

Exactly how would an "armed mob" immediately point to a coordinated terrorist attack, given that there were protests in other countries on that same day?


Because they were shooting and launching RPGs, whilst doing the synchronized dance moves from the Billy Jean video.

fark off.
 
2012-10-11 12:59:09 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: udhq: Ha! You don't see the irony in saying the budget is a distraction? The whole issue is a distraction, something some operative thought sounded vaguely like the Iran Hostage Crisis, and made a political calculation to try a ...

Sorry for the trim.

I think allowing a consulate to be attacked, resulting in four deaths, on Sept 11, after multiple requests for increased security, is not something to campaign on. It also doesn't make the "Arab Spring" failure look much better.

The media may have been in the fog of war, but the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is not. The State Department is now admitting that it started with explosions and gunfire. The people at the consulate checked the security cameras and saw an armed mob attacking. Every survivor was certainly being debriefed the next day.

Do you really believe the Obama admin. is just now learning the facts, a month after the fact? I guess our $600B defense budget is not buying all the high tech toys I thought it was. DARPA should stop developing cockroach cams and focus on getting Obama networked to the off the shelf consumer electronics we use to monitor our properties in war zones.


"Arab Spring Failure???

You do realize that almost half a billion people that were living in brutal, repressive dictatorships in 2008 are now living in democracies, don't you?

You still didn't mention why Obama would go against his own political best interests, engaging in this alleged conspiracy in order to a push a storyline that was LESS politically beneficial to him.

Look, you're asking me to believe a ridiculously convoluted scheme by the white house to push an unfavorable narrative, and you're doing in the absence of even a shred of evidence to support your conspiracy theory, and your doing it in the presence of a much simpler and much more likely reality. \We're hearing hoofbeats and you're saying "unicorn."

In short, you're making an extraordinary claim without extraordinary evidence.
 
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