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(Nature)   Scientists agree, you'd have to be crazy to live in the city   (nature.com) divider line 77
    More: Interesting, Institute of Psychiatry, urban decay, stress response, social isolation, genetic predisposition, Ronald Kessler, Heidelberg, fMRI  
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2012-10-10 06:13:11 PM  
"Tell'em about the Twinkie, Egon."
 
2012-10-10 06:21:27 PM  
Nothing grows, and life ain't very pretty.
 
2012-10-10 06:32:05 PM  
Look, here in the City we snap and shoot someone from time to time. Out in the boondocks people snap, kill forty or fifty people from time to time. They often cook and eat them as well.

Who's crazier?
 
2012-10-10 06:41:13 PM  
I've worked in NYC for 30 plus years and never once thought about living there.

/likes my space
 
2012-10-10 07:15:57 PM  
If I could move to a farm in the country, I would in a heartbeat, but this is where the money is.
 
2012-10-10 07:18:38 PM  
Yeah, being able to do damn near anything I want at damn near any time I want sucks.
 
2012-10-10 07:21:29 PM  
Oh let me tell you it's SO stressful to live, work, and shop within a five block radius. And to actually have a job. Man, life is insane here in the city.
 
2012-10-10 07:24:27 PM  
Crazy? Don't mind if I do!
 
2012-10-10 07:26:34 PM  
and the country smells like shiat, cow, dog, horse, pig and other.
 
2012-10-10 07:26:39 PM  
I split my time 50-50 between city and semi-rural. I have to admit, the older I get (mid-30s) the more I like the country. I can go a month without having an emergency vehicle pass in front of the house. I could leave house and cars unlocked. Fewer crazy people, no homeless, no traffic and clean air.

And most of all, I sleep a lot better.
 
2012-10-10 07:26:41 PM  
I have to wonder if you're more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness in cities because you're more likely to have access to mental health care in a city?
 
2012-10-10 07:27:54 PM  
This reminds me of the old lab rat test that showed rats were more aggressive and generally attacked each other when living in dense conditions.
 
What they didn't tell you was that it was literally a bucket full of lab rats that were pissed off about being lab rats in the first place.
 
2012-10-10 07:28:40 PM  

davidphogan: I have to wonder if you're more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness in cities because you're more likely to have access to mental health care in a city?


Could be part of it -- but most who live in the 'country' are probably no more that an hour away from a large city.
 
2012-10-10 07:37:00 PM  
Before I go all bullshiat on this article (tl;dr), what are they constituting as a city?

/couldn't finish the article, my BS detector pinged when seeing "Nature" and "city study" in the same screen.
 
2012-10-10 07:37:38 PM  

Kanemano: and the country smells like shiat, cow, dog, horse, pig and other.


have you been to San Francisco?
 
2012-10-10 07:47:28 PM  
But, but, James Kunstler says ...
 
2012-10-10 07:55:39 PM  

Godscrack: Nothing grows, and life ain't very pretty.


Nothing ever grows in this rotten old hole,
And everything is stunted and lost.
And nothing really rocks
And nothing really rolls
And nothing's really worth the cost.
 
2012-10-10 07:56:39 PM  

davidphogan: I have to wonder if you're more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness in cities because you're more likely to have access to mental health care in a city?


RTFA.
 
2012-10-10 08:02:52 PM  

MrEricSir: Oh let me tell you it's SO stressful to live, work, and shop within a five block radius. And to actually have a job. Man, life is insane here in the city.


Most people don't have that luxury, junior.
 
2012-10-10 08:05:59 PM  
Hell is other people.
 
2012-10-10 08:09:51 PM  

uber humper: I can go a month without having an emergency vehicle pass in front of the house.


Last time an emergency vehicle went by my house was about two years ago.

uber humper: I could leave house and cars unlocked.


Yeah, thats not very smart,no matter where you live. I have had stuff stolen out of my vehicle. ONly reason they didn't smash the windows was because it was unlocked.

uber humper: Fewer crazy people, no homeless, no traffic and clean air.


There are crazy people, but they usually just stay in their house, you don't see them out and about.
True, no homeless.
I get about 1 car per day past my house
Yep, clean air, it might stink like manure every once and awhile, but its better then city pollution.
 
2012-10-10 08:25:09 PM  
www.childrensclassics.com.au

To sum up the thread
 
2012-10-10 08:28:54 PM  
While the article is not written in a very credible manner, the basic premise is true. Country life is generally speaking less stressful than city life, and since stress is such a huge contributing factor to almost every psychological disorder there is, it is a safe generalization to make.

All is not peaches and cream though. Living in the country can be quite expensive. My house is almost 10 miles from the nearest loaf of bread, for example. And if your job is in the city, you better like to spend time in your car commuting...time that you won't have to spend on things that you might otherwise be able to spend it on.

Like anything else, there are positives and negatives and what it really boils down to is whether you are a "city person" or a "country person". After being raised in Philadelphia, and spending much of my adult life in cities I am very comfortable in large metro areas. But for the last 14 years I have lived in the middle of nowhere, out in the woods, at the end of a sometimes only barely passable dirt "road", and I can not fathom ever living anywhere else. It was a large adjustment, and I still find myself doing unnecessary "city" behaviors, but overall it is a far less stressful life out here.
 
2012-10-10 08:35:34 PM  

BSABSVR: Yeah, being able to do damn near anything I want at damn near any time I want sucks.


And yet here you are spending time posting on Fark.
 
Slu
2012-10-10 08:44:01 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: "Tell'em about the Twinkie, Egon."


"What about the Twinkie?"
 
2012-10-10 08:45:31 PM  
Any psychiatrist can tell you, urbanization doesn't cause schizophrenia. Urban settings draw in schizophrenics from other settings because it's a more desirable setting for them.
 
2012-10-10 08:58:52 PM  
Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.
 
Slu
2012-10-10 09:02:23 PM  

doglover: MrEricSir: Oh let me tell you it's SO stressful to live, work, and shop within a five block radius. And to actually have a job. Man, life is insane here in the city.

Most people don't have that luxury, junior.


I have a family and I do, if that is what you are implying. Now I do have to go 3 miles to work. But I take the bus. With a toddler.
 
2012-10-10 09:04:38 PM  

legion_of_doo: Kanemano: and the country smells like shiat, cow, dog, horse, pig and other.

have you been to San Francisco?


Yes, San Fran also has legions of doo,
 
2012-10-10 09:11:43 PM  
Most of my patients would be pretty low functioning even if they didn't develop "psychosis".

//Chicago
 
2012-10-10 09:22:23 PM  
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2012-10-10 09:24:52 PM  

legion_of_doo: Kanemano: and the country smells like shiat, cow, dog, horse, pig and other.

have you been to San Francisco?


Oh the joys of a combined sewer system.
 
2012-10-10 09:54:39 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: BSABSVR: Yeah, being able to do damn near anything I want at damn near any time I want sucks.

And yet here you are spending time posting on Fark.


Yeah, but I'm posting from the Opera.
 
2012-10-10 09:56:41 PM  
Kind of strange as someone who gets anxiety attacks, but I love the stimulation of trips into Manhattan. It's like the one place that moves at the speed my brain is already moving all the time, so it feels right.
 
2012-10-10 10:00:21 PM  
Making the hour long commute into the city was the thing slowly driving me crazy, so I moved here.

/Haven't regretted it since
 
2012-10-10 10:01:36 PM  
I don't know about crazy, but both living in a large city and traveling to other metro ares I have to say that by far the dumbest people I've ever met live in the cities.
 
2012-10-10 10:10:59 PM  
What urban dwellers really should fear is an extended break down in infrastructure. Cities are natural food and water deserts packing millions of people into tiny areas. Should our societies ever break down to the point that our "just-in-time" food delivery infrastructure is disrupted for an extended period of time, we could see suffering on an unprecedented scale.
 
2012-10-10 10:22:02 PM  

elchupacabra: /couldn't finish the article, my BS detector pinged when seeing "Nature" and "city study" in the same screen.


You know that Nature is the most prestigious scientific journal in the world, right? (Or second most, depending on who you talk to.)
 
2012-10-10 10:29:34 PM  
I've heard a bit about this before. It was something like the constant stimuli (flashing lights, sudden noises, constant movment)present in urban areas overloads peoples abiliity to process it, causing them to stress out.

Other theory I'd heard was Nature Deficit Disorder -the theory that people who don't spend enough time around trees and grass are adversely affected by the lack
 
2012-10-10 10:34:23 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.


Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.
 
2012-10-10 11:06:35 PM  

Son of Thunder: Godscrack: Nothing grows, and life ain't very pretty.

Nothing ever grows in this rotten old hole,
And everything is stunted and lost.
And nothing really rocks
And nothing really rolls
And nothing's really worth the cost.


when i saw godscrack's post, i scanned the page to see if someone had beat me to it. kudos SOF.
I'll leave this instead:

imgsrv1.pxdrive.com
 
2012-10-10 11:19:13 PM  

cryinoutloud: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.

Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.


People use headphones all over, and the only reason rural areas have less smartphone usage is because the service farking sucks.

Plus walking is commuting in the city, people listen to music while commuting - much like idiots driving their 100 dollar+ a tank of gas cars in deliverance country listen to radios or 8 tracks if they have made it out there yet.
 
2012-10-10 11:57:23 PM  

lilplatinum: cryinoutloud: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.

Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.

People use headphones all over, and the only reason rural areas have less smartphone usage is because the service farking sucks.

Plus walking is commuting in the city, people listen to music while commuting - much like idiots driving their 100 dollar+ a tank of gas cars in deliverance country listen to radios or 8 tracks if they have made it out there yet.


I see that you ride a train everywhere.
 
2012-10-11 12:01:12 AM  

Fano: lilplatinum: cryinoutloud: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.

Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.

People use headphones all over, and the only reason rural areas have less smartphone usage is because the service farking sucks.

Plus walking is commuting in the city, people listen to music while commuting - much like idiots driving their 100 dollar+ a tank of gas cars in deliverance country listen to radios or 8 tracks if they have made it out there yet.

I see that you ride a train everywhere.


*pardon me, I looked at your profile and see you live in Germany. All bets are off on your previous comments, but they mean less than nothing in a nation smaller than most US states.Travel is a bit different.
 
2012-10-11 12:11:44 AM  

davidphogan: I have to wonder if you're more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness in cities because you're more likely to have access to mental health care in a city?


One of the reasons I live in Los Angeles is it's one of the few cities big enough to have a good therapist for any psychological issue you have.

/would take stress over boredom any day of the week
 
2012-10-11 12:28:04 AM  

Burr: Yep, clean air, it might stink like manure every once and awhile, but its better then city pollution.


I knew a real estate agent from So Cal (farmer So Cal not coast) the developer she worked for made scratch and sniff brochures that smelled like cow shiat, with the caption "If you don't like this smell, you won't want to live here."

Where I am there really is no crime or crazies. I usually do lock if driving somewhere but if I go for a jog walk, I wont bother even though I'll be gone for an hour or so.
 
2012-10-11 12:32:37 AM  
Seeing 100 gorgeous city women in an hour reduces my stress.

/But stretches my pants
 
2012-10-11 03:13:53 AM  

Balchinian: After being raised in Philadelphia


What happened? Did you get in one little fight?
 
2012-10-11 03:20:49 AM  
Sometimes I live in the country
Sometimes I live in town
Sometimes I have a great notion
To jump into the river and drown
 
2012-10-11 03:51:45 AM  

cryinoutloud: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.

Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.


So, it's not like your IQ could have dropped much lower anyway.
 
2012-10-11 05:06:56 AM  

nmemkha: What urban dwellers really should fear is an extended break down in infrastructure. Cities are natural food and water deserts packing millions of people into tiny areas. Should our societies ever break down to the point that our "just-in-time" food delivery infrastructure is disrupted for an extended period of time, we could see suffering on an unprecedented scale.


This. Basic survival in a city is entirely dependent on an enormously complex system of supply,, support, communication, and enforced order. Nearly all food is brought in from elsewhere. Water supplies and waste removal requires actively maintained systems. Social order is enforced, and all of this depends of instantaneous communication. Look at what happens in cities any time one of these is interrupted. A blizzard closes roads used to supply food, power outage cuts off traffic lights, internet, refrigerators (both residential and commercial), etc. A riot takes law enforcement attention away from common crime, which in turn, skyrockets. And there's a million more possibilities. City life might be fun and stimulating, but the cost is that your very survival requires all of these elements to always work in tandem with no interruptions or breakdowns. Whenever there is one, you get something like New Orleans, the LA riots, or even just the massive lack of food and water that happened recently during the east coast power outage.

Cities are powder kegs. Fun, stimulating, entertaining and fast moving powder kegs.
 
2012-10-11 05:09:26 AM  
Problem: stress caused by living in Camberwell.

Solution:

www.adamriff.com
 
2012-10-11 05:37:47 AM  

taurusowner: City life might be fun and stimulating, but the cost is that your very survival requires all of these elements to always work in tandem with no interruptions or breakdowns. Whenever there is one, you get something like New Orleans, the LA riots,


Yeah, every time there's an interruption of anything in a city, it's riots and desperate struggle. I've died three times this year, already, my survival is that precarious. If only I lived in the countryside, where natural disasters, closed roads, communication breakdowns and power outages can't possible cause life threatening situations.
 
2012-10-11 06:05:24 AM  

nmemkha: What urban dwellers really should fear is an extended break down in infrastructure. Cities are natural food and water deserts packing millions of people into tiny areas. Should our societies ever break down to the point that our "just-in-time" food delivery infrastructure is disrupted for an extended period of time, we could see suffering on an unprecedented scale.


But not for you, you live in the country. The city folk will just sit in their apartments with their hunger pangs, patiently waiting for the sweet embrace of death, not descending on your farm as a raping, pillaging horde.
Nah, you'll be fine.
 
2012-10-11 06:17:59 AM  

Dansker: nmemkha: What urban dwellers really should fear is an extended break down in infrastructure. Cities are natural food and water deserts packing millions of people into tiny areas. Should our societies ever break down to the point that our "just-in-time" food delivery infrastructure is disrupted for an extended period of time, we could see suffering on an unprecedented scale.

But not for you, you live in the country. The city folk will just sit in their apartments with their hunger pangs, patiently waiting for the sweet embrace of death, not descending on your farm as a raping, pillaging horde.
Nah, you'll be fine.


You assume much young Farktalker.
 
2012-10-11 06:38:38 AM  

nmemkha: Dansker: nmemkha: What urban dwellers really should fear is an extended break down in infrastructure. Cities are natural food and water deserts packing millions of people into tiny areas. Should our societies ever break down to the point that our "just-in-time" food delivery infrastructure is disrupted for an extended period of time, we could see suffering on an unprecedented scale.

But not for you, you live in the country. The city folk will just sit in their apartments with their hunger pangs, patiently waiting for the sweet embrace of death, not descending on your farm as a raping, pillaging horde.
Nah, you'll be fine.

You assume much young Farktalker.


All I'm saying is that everybody should really fear an extended breakdown in infrastructure whether you live in a farmhouse or a cityblock.
Also, ymmw but my city is far from a "water desert". Come to think of it, most large cities are built near rivers and lakes
 
2012-10-11 08:38:53 AM  

BSABSVR: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: BSABSVR: Yeah, being able to do damn near anything I want at damn near any time I want sucks.

And yet here you are spending time posting on Fark.

Yeah, but I'm posting from the Opera.


Beautiful comeback. Hats off to you good sir.

www.mcarterbrown.com
 
2012-10-11 08:58:40 AM  
Interesting. A while ago, I listened to a TED Talks episode where the guess speaker was saying 1 in 6 globally live in citys, mostly in slums and favelas, and in 20 years it will be 1 in 4
 
2012-10-11 09:00:49 AM  

Ennuipoet: Look, here in the City we snap and shoot someone from time to time. Out in the boondocks people snap, kill forty or fifty people from time to time. They often cook and eat them as well.

Who's crazier?


We use all the parts, too.
 
2012-10-11 09:40:11 AM  
Have lived in several large metropolises and would not want to be there when all hell breaks loose. I will keep my little country homestead functioning without city water, city sewer, city food (oh wait there is no food grown or raised in a city), or city services. I grow my own food, have neighbors to barter for meat with, hunt, and raise fish in the ponds. Live off the grid, only real dependancy is the internet. Keep plenty of ammo. Have two mean ass dogs. Also have a shovel and a bag of lime.

/yes old
//no lawn play all you want in the fields, watch out for the snakes.
 
2012-10-11 10:27:15 AM  

taurusowner: This. Basic survival in a city is entirely dependent on an enormously complex system of supply,, support, communication, and enforced order. Nearly all food is brought in from elsewhere. Water supplies and waste removal requires actively maintained systems. Social order is enforced, and all of this depends of instantaneous communication. Look at what happens in cities any time one of these is interrupted. A blizzard closes roads used to supply food, power outage cuts off traffic lights, internet, refrigerators (both residential and commercial), etc. A riot takes law enforcement attention away from common crime, which in turn, skyrockets. And there's a million more possibilities. City life might be fun and stimulating, but the cost is that your very survival requires all of these elements to always work in tandem with no interruptions or breakdowns. Whenever there is one, you get something like New Orleans, the LA riots, or even just the massive lack of food and water that happened recently during the east coast power outage.


Survival almost anywhere in modern society is dependent on that enormously complex web. In cities, the web has more strands and it is far harder to make it fail. 400 acres in the Poconos isn't going to feed you in February unless you keep 6 months of preserved food on hand and who wants to eat that shiat every day? When the power fails in New York City, it's a really big deal because it only happens every 30 years. If the power goes out for 12 hours in Danville, PA it just means there was another ice storm. We'll get to it tomorrow, maybe. Hope you have a warm sleeping bag.

I've lived in the country, small towns, suburbs, and in the city. Suburbs are IMO the worst but the country is pretty bad too unless you grew up there and already know everyone around. There's nothing to do and no way to meet new people.
 
2012-10-11 10:30:57 AM  

you have pee hands: Survival almost anywhere in modern society is dependent on that enormously complex web. In cities, the web has more strands and it is far harder to make it fail. 400 acres in the Poconos isn't going to feed you in February unless you keep 6 months of preserved food on hand and who wants to eat that shiat every day?


Everyone will, if there's nothing else available. That's why I store what I eat normally, and yes, I do already have more than 6 months on hand.
 
2012-10-11 10:37:47 AM  
If only there was some alternate to either living in the city or living in the country...

You people, yes "you people", talking about all the shopping you have in the city are full of shiat. Yes, the stores are there and many are great, but I can get from my house in the suburbs to that same store outside the city in less time than it takes you to make the intracity trip. In the burbs, even far burbs that don't look like burbs, we can get to any needed location within 5-15 minutes. Dozens of good restaurants and all the crappy chains, Wally World, Target, Cosco, SAMS, a dozen crappy dollar stores, Menards, Home Depot, Lowes, 3 Ace hardware stores, Maceys/Carsons, Kohl's, shoe stores. And we won't pay to park or worry about our cars getting farked up or stolen while we go into a store for 15 minutes. The city has great stuff, but here's the thing....you don't have to live there. I can get to the field museum, McCormick place, Shedd Aquarium, Ohare airport, or anywhere else in Chicago in under one hour from a place that is actually pretty nice to live in. When we walk in our neighborhoods, we don't feel the need to turn our heads to look behind us every 50 feet like people in the city do. Yes, you do do that. And you appear apprehensive and tense while doing so. Great life - you sure do have it all! We don't get accosted for money or smokes out here either. Nobody wants to wash our car windshields with a dirty rag. And we have all your ethnic food out here too. As it turns out, a lot of ethnic minorities, who are damn good cocks, don't want to live in a cockroach infested cesspool either.

Just kidding, the city is great. I'm totally jealous and wish I had what it takes to live there.
 
2012-10-11 10:46:01 AM  

Big_Fat_Liar: who are damn good cocks


I was all ready to reply to your post in an intelligent, thoughtful manner, but then I saw this and decided I'd rather just make fun of you.

/I guess when all you have access to are country women, the alternative starts to look pretty good
//nttawwt
 
2012-10-11 10:48:26 AM  

Big_Fat_Liar: I can get to the field museum, McCormick place, Shedd Aquarium, Ohare airport, or anywhere else in Chicago in under one hour from a place that is actually pretty nice to live in. When we walk in our neighborhoods, we don't feel the need to turn our heads to look behind us every 50 feet like people in the city do. Yes, you do do that.


You know how I know you're from Naperville? 

And no, I don't do that. Pussy.
 
2012-10-11 10:51:34 AM  
Anyway, Big_Fat_Liar, know how I know you've never actually lived in a city? You think that when "us people" talk about shopping, we're talking about

Big_Fat_Liar: Wally World, Target, Cosco, SAMS, a dozen crappy dollar stores, Menards, Home Depot, Lowes, 3 Ace hardware stores, Maceys/Carsons, Kohl's,


Based on that, I'm guessing your "dozens of good restaurants" includes Chili's and Applebees, too.
 
2012-10-11 10:53:59 AM  

trophy1903: Have lived in several large metropolises and would not want to be there when all hell breaks loose. I will keep my little country homestead functioning without city water, city sewer, city food (oh wait there is no food grown or raised in a city)


Depends on the city. Here's good fishing in the harbour and some of the lakes, lots of parks with fine soil and a forest park just north of the city crawling with deer. People have alotments for growing produce. Communal city farms are still rare but growing in numbers, and there are lots of fruit trees in green inner city backyards and suburban gardens. Birds, squirrels and rats are easy to hunt or trap and perfectly edible.
The city is surrounded by farmland, forests, wild nature and oceans, so I could get on my bike and be hunting, fishing or foraging in the wild within half an hour. And if farms are still running in this hell-breaking-lose scenario where nothing works for some reason, farmers will probably still bring their products to towns and cities and sell them on markets, like humans have done for thousands of years.

Basically, worrying about starving to death in a post-apocalyptic societal and technological breakdown because of my urban dwelling is on my list of prioritized concerns, just below Zombie Horde, Alien Invasion, The Rapture and The Rise of Chtulu.
There are plenty of good arguments for a pastoral existance, but this is not one of them.
 
2012-10-11 11:06:18 AM  

Ambitwistor: elchupacabra: /couldn't finish the article, my BS detector pinged when seeing "Nature" and "city study" in the same screen.

You know that Nature is the most prestigious scientific journal in the world, right? (Or second most, depending on who you talk to.)


Oooooh whoopsy. I was thinking something else. Teach me to Fark and read articles at the same time.

Original question still stands; what's defined as a city?
 
2012-10-11 11:14:40 AM  
Wouldn't this theory be a logical extension of "convicts going crazy in overloaded prisons" syndrome we hear about? Much less intense setting than prison, obviously, but on the same spectrum of overcrowded conditions and limited mobility for many city-dwellers.

We moved away from the city in our early 20's--way too noisy and crowded. And that was just Milwaukee. I think I would start shooting the neighborhood if I had to live in downtown Chicago or New York.

/Says the guy who's going to visit Chicago and the Art Institute tomorrow.
 
2012-10-11 11:22:12 AM  

Big_Fat_Liar: When we walk in our neighborhoods, we don't feel the need to turn our heads to look behind us every 50 feet like people in the city do. Yes, you do do that.


If we did that, we would be constantly bumping into each other, country mouse.
 
2012-10-11 11:29:12 AM  

fickenchucker: Says the guy who's going to visit Chicago and the Art Institute tomorrow.


Great. At the very least don't drive and walk like you mean it.
 
2012-10-11 11:48:08 AM  

Internet Meme Rogers: fickenchucker: Says the guy who's going to visit Chicago and the Art Institute tomorrow.

Great. At the very least don't drive and walk like you mean it.




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2012-10-11 12:04:19 PM  

fickenchucker: Internet Meme Rogers: fickenchucker: Says the guy who's going to visit Chicago and the Art Institute tomorrow.

Great. At the very least don't drive and walk like you mean it.



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I have no idea what the "don't drive" part is all about, but I can attest to the fact that most tourists walk r.....e.....a.....l......l.....y.................s.......l......o..... .w.......l......y........ And don't get me wrong, I agree that Chicago is a beautiful city and I like to look around quite a bit myself, but when you get the urge to rubberneck, don't do it in the middle of the sidewalk during rush hour.

By the way, have fun at the Art Institute. I'm not an art buff by any stretch, but that place is farking amazing (I work right across the street, so I go quite a bit).
 
2012-10-11 12:19:46 PM  
I was mostly kidding, but I find that tourists don't do well in Chicago traffic. People who visit me tend to freak out when we drive down the Kennedy. And yeah, the walking slowly thing kills me. It's not really fair, because there's a lot to look at, but it's annoying nonetheless.

/make sure to see the Thorne Miniature Rooms if you haven't already
 
2012-10-11 12:28:24 PM  

Huck Chaser: fickenchucker: Internet Meme Rogers: fickenchucker: Says the guy who's going to visit Chicago and the Art Institute tomorrow.

Great. At the very least don't drive and walk like you mean it.



?

I have no idea what the "don't drive" part is all about, but I can attest to the fact that most tourists walk r.....e.....a.....l......l.....y.................s.......l......o..... .w.......l......y........ And don't get me wrong, I agree that Chicago is a beautiful city and I like to look around quite a bit myself, but when you get the urge to rubberneck, don't do it in the middle of the sidewalk during rush hour.

By the way, have fun at the Art Institute. I'm not an art buff by any stretch, but that place is farking amazing (I work right across the street, so I go quite a bit).




Ah. I was confused. I thought you meant to "drive and walk" slowly.

I would agree with your suggestions. Wifey and I have been there 10 times or so, but first time with the teenagers, now that they know what they're looking at. My personal rule was to never take little kids there. It's like taking babies to a candle-lit restaurant.
 
2012-10-11 12:43:45 PM  
It would have been a much clearer post with a well placed comma. Sorry about that.
 
2012-10-11 11:47:27 PM  

Big_Fat_Liar: When we walk in our neighborhoods, we don't feel the need to turn our heads to look behind us every 50 feet like people in the city do.


American cities maybe. Isn't it about time you became more civilized?
 
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