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(Nature)   Scientists agree, you'd have to be crazy to live in the city   (nature.com) divider line 77
    More: Interesting, Institute of Psychiatry, urban decay, stress response, social isolation, genetic predisposition, Ronald Kessler, Heidelberg, fMRI  
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2012-10-10 06:13:11 PM  
"Tell'em about the Twinkie, Egon."
 
2012-10-10 06:21:27 PM  
Nothing grows, and life ain't very pretty.
 
2012-10-10 06:32:05 PM  
Look, here in the City we snap and shoot someone from time to time. Out in the boondocks people snap, kill forty or fifty people from time to time. They often cook and eat them as well.

Who's crazier?
 
2012-10-10 06:41:13 PM  
I've worked in NYC for 30 plus years and never once thought about living there.

/likes my space
 
2012-10-10 07:15:57 PM  
If I could move to a farm in the country, I would in a heartbeat, but this is where the money is.
 
2012-10-10 07:18:38 PM  
Yeah, being able to do damn near anything I want at damn near any time I want sucks.
 
2012-10-10 07:21:29 PM  
Oh let me tell you it's SO stressful to live, work, and shop within a five block radius. And to actually have a job. Man, life is insane here in the city.
 
2012-10-10 07:24:27 PM  
Crazy? Don't mind if I do!
 
2012-10-10 07:26:34 PM  
and the country smells like shiat, cow, dog, horse, pig and other.
 
2012-10-10 07:26:39 PM  
I split my time 50-50 between city and semi-rural. I have to admit, the older I get (mid-30s) the more I like the country. I can go a month without having an emergency vehicle pass in front of the house. I could leave house and cars unlocked. Fewer crazy people, no homeless, no traffic and clean air.

And most of all, I sleep a lot better.
 
2012-10-10 07:26:41 PM  
I have to wonder if you're more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness in cities because you're more likely to have access to mental health care in a city?
 
2012-10-10 07:27:54 PM  
This reminds me of the old lab rat test that showed rats were more aggressive and generally attacked each other when living in dense conditions.
 
What they didn't tell you was that it was literally a bucket full of lab rats that were pissed off about being lab rats in the first place.
 
2012-10-10 07:28:40 PM  

davidphogan: I have to wonder if you're more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness in cities because you're more likely to have access to mental health care in a city?


Could be part of it -- but most who live in the 'country' are probably no more that an hour away from a large city.
 
2012-10-10 07:37:00 PM  
Before I go all bullshiat on this article (tl;dr), what are they constituting as a city?

/couldn't finish the article, my BS detector pinged when seeing "Nature" and "city study" in the same screen.
 
2012-10-10 07:37:38 PM  

Kanemano: and the country smells like shiat, cow, dog, horse, pig and other.


have you been to San Francisco?
 
2012-10-10 07:47:28 PM  
But, but, James Kunstler says ...
 
2012-10-10 07:55:39 PM  

Godscrack: Nothing grows, and life ain't very pretty.


Nothing ever grows in this rotten old hole,
And everything is stunted and lost.
And nothing really rocks
And nothing really rolls
And nothing's really worth the cost.
 
2012-10-10 07:56:39 PM  

davidphogan: I have to wonder if you're more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness in cities because you're more likely to have access to mental health care in a city?


RTFA.
 
2012-10-10 08:02:52 PM  

MrEricSir: Oh let me tell you it's SO stressful to live, work, and shop within a five block radius. And to actually have a job. Man, life is insane here in the city.


Most people don't have that luxury, junior.
 
2012-10-10 08:05:59 PM  
Hell is other people.
 
2012-10-10 08:09:51 PM  

uber humper: I can go a month without having an emergency vehicle pass in front of the house.


Last time an emergency vehicle went by my house was about two years ago.

uber humper: I could leave house and cars unlocked.


Yeah, thats not very smart,no matter where you live. I have had stuff stolen out of my vehicle. ONly reason they didn't smash the windows was because it was unlocked.

uber humper: Fewer crazy people, no homeless, no traffic and clean air.


There are crazy people, but they usually just stay in their house, you don't see them out and about.
True, no homeless.
I get about 1 car per day past my house
Yep, clean air, it might stink like manure every once and awhile, but its better then city pollution.
 
2012-10-10 08:25:09 PM  
www.childrensclassics.com.au

To sum up the thread
 
2012-10-10 08:28:54 PM  
While the article is not written in a very credible manner, the basic premise is true. Country life is generally speaking less stressful than city life, and since stress is such a huge contributing factor to almost every psychological disorder there is, it is a safe generalization to make.

All is not peaches and cream though. Living in the country can be quite expensive. My house is almost 10 miles from the nearest loaf of bread, for example. And if your job is in the city, you better like to spend time in your car commuting...time that you won't have to spend on things that you might otherwise be able to spend it on.

Like anything else, there are positives and negatives and what it really boils down to is whether you are a "city person" or a "country person". After being raised in Philadelphia, and spending much of my adult life in cities I am very comfortable in large metro areas. But for the last 14 years I have lived in the middle of nowhere, out in the woods, at the end of a sometimes only barely passable dirt "road", and I can not fathom ever living anywhere else. It was a large adjustment, and I still find myself doing unnecessary "city" behaviors, but overall it is a far less stressful life out here.
 
2012-10-10 08:35:34 PM  

BSABSVR: Yeah, being able to do damn near anything I want at damn near any time I want sucks.


And yet here you are spending time posting on Fark.
 
Slu
2012-10-10 08:44:01 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: "Tell'em about the Twinkie, Egon."


"What about the Twinkie?"
 
2012-10-10 08:45:31 PM  
Any psychiatrist can tell you, urbanization doesn't cause schizophrenia. Urban settings draw in schizophrenics from other settings because it's a more desirable setting for them.
 
2012-10-10 08:58:52 PM  
Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.
 
Slu
2012-10-10 09:02:23 PM  

doglover: MrEricSir: Oh let me tell you it's SO stressful to live, work, and shop within a five block radius. And to actually have a job. Man, life is insane here in the city.

Most people don't have that luxury, junior.


I have a family and I do, if that is what you are implying. Now I do have to go 3 miles to work. But I take the bus. With a toddler.
 
2012-10-10 09:04:38 PM  

legion_of_doo: Kanemano: and the country smells like shiat, cow, dog, horse, pig and other.

have you been to San Francisco?


Yes, San Fran also has legions of doo,
 
2012-10-10 09:11:43 PM  
Most of my patients would be pretty low functioning even if they didn't develop "psychosis".

//Chicago
 
2012-10-10 09:22:23 PM  
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2012-10-10 09:24:52 PM  

legion_of_doo: Kanemano: and the country smells like shiat, cow, dog, horse, pig and other.

have you been to San Francisco?


Oh the joys of a combined sewer system.
 
2012-10-10 09:54:39 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: BSABSVR: Yeah, being able to do damn near anything I want at damn near any time I want sucks.

And yet here you are spending time posting on Fark.


Yeah, but I'm posting from the Opera.
 
2012-10-10 09:56:41 PM  
Kind of strange as someone who gets anxiety attacks, but I love the stimulation of trips into Manhattan. It's like the one place that moves at the speed my brain is already moving all the time, so it feels right.
 
2012-10-10 10:00:21 PM  
Making the hour long commute into the city was the thing slowly driving me crazy, so I moved here.

/Haven't regretted it since
 
2012-10-10 10:01:36 PM  
I don't know about crazy, but both living in a large city and traveling to other metro ares I have to say that by far the dumbest people I've ever met live in the cities.
 
2012-10-10 10:10:59 PM  
What urban dwellers really should fear is an extended break down in infrastructure. Cities are natural food and water deserts packing millions of people into tiny areas. Should our societies ever break down to the point that our "just-in-time" food delivery infrastructure is disrupted for an extended period of time, we could see suffering on an unprecedented scale.
 
2012-10-10 10:22:02 PM  

elchupacabra: /couldn't finish the article, my BS detector pinged when seeing "Nature" and "city study" in the same screen.


You know that Nature is the most prestigious scientific journal in the world, right? (Or second most, depending on who you talk to.)
 
2012-10-10 10:29:34 PM  
I've heard a bit about this before. It was something like the constant stimuli (flashing lights, sudden noises, constant movment)present in urban areas overloads peoples abiliity to process it, causing them to stress out.

Other theory I'd heard was Nature Deficit Disorder -the theory that people who don't spend enough time around trees and grass are adversely affected by the lack
 
2012-10-10 10:34:23 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.


Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.
 
2012-10-10 11:06:35 PM  

Son of Thunder: Godscrack: Nothing grows, and life ain't very pretty.

Nothing ever grows in this rotten old hole,
And everything is stunted and lost.
And nothing really rocks
And nothing really rolls
And nothing's really worth the cost.


when i saw godscrack's post, i scanned the page to see if someone had beat me to it. kudos SOF.
I'll leave this instead:

imgsrv1.pxdrive.com
 
2012-10-10 11:19:13 PM  

cryinoutloud: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.

Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.


People use headphones all over, and the only reason rural areas have less smartphone usage is because the service farking sucks.

Plus walking is commuting in the city, people listen to music while commuting - much like idiots driving their 100 dollar+ a tank of gas cars in deliverance country listen to radios or 8 tracks if they have made it out there yet.
 
2012-10-10 11:57:23 PM  

lilplatinum: cryinoutloud: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.

Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.

People use headphones all over, and the only reason rural areas have less smartphone usage is because the service farking sucks.

Plus walking is commuting in the city, people listen to music while commuting - much like idiots driving their 100 dollar+ a tank of gas cars in deliverance country listen to radios or 8 tracks if they have made it out there yet.


I see that you ride a train everywhere.
 
2012-10-11 12:01:12 AM  

Fano: lilplatinum: cryinoutloud: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.

Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.

People use headphones all over, and the only reason rural areas have less smartphone usage is because the service farking sucks.

Plus walking is commuting in the city, people listen to music while commuting - much like idiots driving their 100 dollar+ a tank of gas cars in deliverance country listen to radios or 8 tracks if they have made it out there yet.

I see that you ride a train everywhere.


*pardon me, I looked at your profile and see you live in Germany. All bets are off on your previous comments, but they mean less than nothing in a nation smaller than most US states.Travel is a bit different.
 
2012-10-11 12:11:44 AM  

davidphogan: I have to wonder if you're more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness in cities because you're more likely to have access to mental health care in a city?


One of the reasons I live in Los Angeles is it's one of the few cities big enough to have a good therapist for any psychological issue you have.

/would take stress over boredom any day of the week
 
2012-10-11 12:28:04 AM  

Burr: Yep, clean air, it might stink like manure every once and awhile, but its better then city pollution.


I knew a real estate agent from So Cal (farmer So Cal not coast) the developer she worked for made scratch and sniff brochures that smelled like cow shiat, with the caption "If you don't like this smell, you won't want to live here."

Where I am there really is no crime or crazies. I usually do lock if driving somewhere but if I go for a jog walk, I wont bother even though I'll be gone for an hour or so.
 
2012-10-11 12:32:37 AM  
Seeing 100 gorgeous city women in an hour reduces my stress.

/But stretches my pants
 
2012-10-11 03:13:53 AM  

Balchinian: After being raised in Philadelphia


What happened? Did you get in one little fight?
 
2012-10-11 03:20:49 AM  
Sometimes I live in the country
Sometimes I live in town
Sometimes I have a great notion
To jump into the river and drown
 
2012-10-11 03:51:45 AM  

cryinoutloud: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Crazy is recognized in the city for what it is. In the country it's called religion.

Oh bullshiat. My IQ didn't go down because I moved to the boonies, and neither does anyone elses.

I can see how much everyone enjoys living in urban areas. That's why they can't leave the house without a headphone and a portable screen, so they can block out their surroundings.


So, it's not like your IQ could have dropped much lower anyway.
 
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