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(The American Spectator)   You know what would be a fun October surprise? A congressional investigation of the Bureau of Labor Statistics   (spectator.org) divider line 140
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2012-10-10 02:42:17 PM
Yeah, since Whitewater turned out so well.....
 
2012-10-10 02:46:38 PM
You know what would be more fun?

Everyone with an IQ over 70 pointing and laughing at the retards doing the "investigation."
 
2012-10-10 02:47:46 PM
Yeah, good luck with that.
 
2012-10-10 02:49:28 PM
I'll put that on the to-do list right after auditing the fed
 
2012-10-10 02:58:54 PM

NowhereMon: I'll put that on the to-do list right after auditing the fed


Is that before or after we repeal the 10th Amendment?

You know... FOR THE JOBS!
 
2012-10-10 03:06:09 PM
Funny how the House sat on its hands all summer and now they decide to go all investigaty. I wonder why now all of a sudden? Must just be a coincidence.
 
2012-10-10 03:07:51 PM
I thought Congress got elected to bring back jobs.
 
2012-10-10 03:14:40 PM
Maybe they can look into that whole 'birth certificate' matter while they are at it.
 
2012-10-10 03:16:13 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Funny how the House sat on its hands all summer and now they decide to go all investigaty. I wonder why now all of a sudden? Must just be a coincidence.


I guess they chose to do this instead of impeaching the President.
 
2012-10-10 03:26:12 PM
unemployment 8.1%: OBAMA IS A TERRIBLE PRESIDENT BECAUSE THE NONPARTISAN BLS SAYS SO
unemployment 7.8%: THE BLS IS COOKING THE BOOKS FOR OBAMA

this is what republicans actually believe
 
2012-10-10 03:33:19 PM
How do we know the revisions to these numbers are coming after the election? - Link

And when they are revised, the BLS will sound just like the Obama Admin does today on Libya. "We didn't lie. We were reporting on the information that we had." Except that's not really true in the case of Libya or in the case of the BLS, as numbers from the past indicate that a serious adjustment will need to be made.
 
2012-10-10 03:41:09 PM
I mean, if they want to create the narrative that they are actively pursuing an actual witch hunt vs Obama in the run-up to the election, by all means let that cloud the news cycle for a few weeks...
 
2012-10-10 03:45:47 PM
Fark all Republicans. They sat silent while their last president shat all over America. Now they want investigations. Bunch of farking whiny crybaby pussies, every one of them.
 
2012-10-10 03:46:48 PM

MeinRS6: How do we know the revisions to these numbers are coming after the election? - Link

And when they are revised, the BLS will sound just like the Obama Admin does today on Libya. "We didn't lie. We were reporting on the information that we had." Except that's not really true in the case of Libya or in the case of the BLS, as numbers from the past indicate that a serious adjustment will need to be made.


It is the official unemployment number. It is not the health of the economy and it does not reflect the individual situation of any particular voter. It is generally an indication of how hard it is to get work if you want work. That's it. It also happens to be the economic indicator the GOP latched on to, to show that Obama sucks.

Clearly it is improving and is on a relatively good trajectory. Drop 2.2% since Obama passed his first budget in October 2009.

As a GOP supporter you pretty much only have 3 sane choices and a 4th insane choice in how you react to it.

1) Even though we have latched on to the U3 before when it was about 8%, we no longer think it is the best indicator of unemployment today (suggest new alternative like U6 that isn't dropping as fast)

2) Things didn't improve as fast as they should have or the U3 would be at 5.4% today if McCain/Palin would have won

3) Obama has little/nothing to do with the improvements in unemployment, this is just the market correcting itself

4) CONSPIRACY!!! Soros and Fartbongo have infiltrated the BLS to cook the books and steal the election
 
2012-10-10 03:47:37 PM
I am not alleging the incompetence or ignorance of Peter Ferrara, who I see is a former GOP functionary, but given the pure idiocy of his columns, I just think it is time to ask him some pointed questions, in a proctored exam setting, about basic economics.
 
2012-10-10 04:01:04 PM
I know the Ds won't likely retake the House, but in my dreams, right after Boehner is forced to hand Nancy a clown sized two handed gavel Issa is brought before the Oversight Committee to look into his political use of his position as chairman.
 
2012-10-10 04:04:02 PM

FlashHarry: unemployment 8.1%: OBAMA IS A TERRIBLE PRESIDENT BECAUSE THE NONPARTISAN BLS SAYS SO
unemployment 7.8%: THE BLS IS COOKING THE BOOKS FOR OBAMA

this is what republicans actually believe


It's the same with polls and CBO estimates.

People are worried about the riots if Romney narrowly wins. I'm worried about the suburban riots if Obama wins period.
 
2012-10-10 04:05:27 PM

BSABSVR: I'm worried about the suburban riots if Obama wins period.


haha. Suburbanites rioting.

What're they gonna do? Mope in the Best Buy parking lot?
 
2012-10-10 04:13:52 PM

Aarontology: BSABSVR: I'm worried about the suburban riots if Obama wins period.

haha. Suburbanites rioting.

What're they gonna do? Mope in the Best Buy parking lot?


They're going to mass in the Panera parking lot and use the free WiFi to write lengthy screeds on their blogs.
 
2012-10-10 04:14:49 PM

mrshowrules: It is the official unemployment number.


It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.
 
2012-10-10 04:21:49 PM
I'm pretty sure the House could just get all the data if they wanted it... OR they could hold some nice hearings, conveniently televised on FN...
 
2012-10-10 04:25:38 PM

MeinRS6: mrshowrules: It is the official unemployment number.

It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.


If facts are your enemy than you live a said and scary existence.
 
2012-10-10 04:33:11 PM

mrshowrules: If facts are your enemy than you live a said and scary existence.


Facts/schmacts! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.
 
2012-10-10 04:34:03 PM

Vodka Zombie: You know what would be more fun?

Everyone with an IQ over 70 pointing and laughing at the retards doing the "investigation."


Maybe they should recruit Arpaio and his crack team of investigators to head this thing up.
 
2012-10-10 04:36:08 PM

Aarontology: BSABSVR: I'm worried about the suburban riots if Obama wins period.

haha. Suburbanites rioting.

What're they gonna do? Mope in the Best Buy parking lot?


Throw rubber garbage cans at the front window of a Pottery Barn.
 
2012-10-10 04:48:47 PM

MeinRS6: mrshowrules: It is the official unemployment number.

It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.


So you are suggesting - and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong -- that the Obama administration somehow infiltrated the BLS and fixed these statistics? Is that what you are claiming?

If so, please elaborate. I can't wait to hear how this was accomplished.
 
2012-10-10 05:06:55 PM

gilgigamesh: MeinRS6: mrshowrules: It is the official unemployment number.

It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.

So you are suggesting - and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong -- that the Obama administration somehow infiltrated the BLS and fixed these statistics? Is that what you are claiming?

If so, please elaborate. I can't wait to hear how this was accomplished.


I have here in my hand a list of 205-a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Democratic Party and who nevertheless are still working and compiling reports at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Our investigation has resulted in a moral uprising and will end only when the whole sorry mess of twisted, warped thinkers are swept from the national scene so that we may have a new birth of honesty and decency in government.
 
2012-10-10 05:09:27 PM

Vodka Zombie: Aarontology: BSABSVR: I'm worried about the suburban riots if Obama wins period.

haha. Suburbanites rioting.

What're they gonna do? Mope in the Best Buy parking lot?

They're going to mass in the Panera parking lot and use the free WiFi to write lengthy screeds on their blogs.


"I parked my X5 in the fire lane in front of Ruby Tuesday's and REFUSED TO MOVE! Until lunch."
 
2012-10-10 05:11:52 PM
something something water boarding, something war crimes something Darth Cheney something do start shiat unless you want shiat something.
 
2012-10-10 05:22:13 PM
www.washingtonpost.com

farking trends, how do they work?
 
2012-10-10 05:22:49 PM

BunkoSquad: I thought Congress got elected to bring back jobs.


Don't worry, once this tactic fails to catch on, they'll be crediting the 2010 freshmen for their bold leadership and laser-like focus on jobs.
 
2012-10-10 05:44:28 PM
How Stupid Do They Think We Are?

Um....
 
2012-10-10 05:48:02 PM

gilgigamesh: MeinRS6: mrshowrules: It is the official unemployment number.

It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.

So you are suggesting - and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong -- that the Obama administration somehow infiltrated the BLS and fixed these statistics? Is that what you are claiming?

If so, please elaborate. I can't wait to hear how this was accomplished.


While your at it explain how they fixed the Gallup numbers, too.
 
2012-10-10 05:56:39 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Fark all Republicans. They sat silent while their last president shat all over America. Now they want investigations. Bunch of farking whiny crybaby pussies, every one of them.


Hey, I think this investigation idea is bullshiat.
 
2012-10-10 06:00:32 PM
I am immediately going to write my Congresspeople to get after this. Seriously, there is no way this could back fire. It's a sure fire winner for Obama
 
2012-10-10 06:07:12 PM
The drop was unusual. But the news came on a Friday and no ons paid attention bc they were still marveling at the debatacle. Don't bring it up. Simple politics. Too bad they always choose bad strategy
 
2012-10-10 06:08:59 PM
FTA: But not to worry. The BLS also reported on Friday that the number of full time jobs actually declined last month by 216,000. Thank you, President Obama. You are doing a great job. Socialism is finally working. Forward. Why would we ever consider turning back now?

Seriously, you need to stop engaging in politics now.
 
2012-10-10 06:12:56 PM

MeinRS6: mrshowrules: It is the official unemployment number.

It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.


Because the AEI says so? Or Jack Welch (without proof) says so?
 
2012-10-10 06:15:10 PM

I_Am_Weasel: MeinRS6: mrshowrules: It is the official unemployment number.

It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.

Because the AEI says so? Or Jack Welch (without proof) says so?


Don't bother. He strolled in, squatted down, let out the steaming, semi-solid remnants of his lunch all over the thread, and long since strolled out again.

He wasn't taking questions.
 
2012-10-10 06:17:20 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Because the AEI says so? Or Jack Welch (without proof) says so?


Because this schmuck from the Heartland Institute who wrote TFA said so. Duh.
 
2012-10-10 06:23:18 PM

abb3w: I_Am_Weasel: Because the AEI says so? Or Jack Welch (without proof) says so?

Because this schmuck from the Heartland Institute who wrote TFA said so. Duh.


Because Jesus.
 
2012-10-10 06:25:26 PM
I want answers!

I've been working on my truth handling abilities!
 
2012-10-10 06:41:48 PM
DO IT.
 
2012-10-10 06:46:09 PM
October Surprise? Sounds more like a Desperate Republican Ploy.
 
2012-10-10 06:46:47 PM
Christ Almighty, these guys hate that America is doing better.

It could not be more obvious.
 
2012-10-10 06:47:25 PM
Paragraph after paragraph of butthurt.
 
2012-10-10 06:48:19 PM

cretinbob: Yeah, since Whitewater turned out so well.....


Forget Whitewater. These tards were pushing that Clinton had Vince Foster assassinated back in the day. I'm totally shocked they'd push another conspiracy theory.
 
2012-10-10 06:48:54 PM

BSABSVR: FlashHarry: unemployment 8.1%: OBAMA IS A TERRIBLE PRESIDENT BECAUSE THE NONPARTISAN BLS SAYS SO
unemployment 7.8%: THE BLS IS COOKING THE BOOKS FOR OBAMA

this is what republicans actually believe

It's the same with polls and CBO estimates.

People are worried about the riots if Romney narrowly wins. I'm worried about the suburban riots if Obama wins period.


I;m more worried about a lone wolf scenario with some guy losing his shiat in the weeks after Obama wins.
 
2012-10-10 06:50:28 PM
Do it! Please, please, please do it!

You idiots and all your supporters are the laughing stock of the world and you don't even realize it. Keep pushing it please.
 
2012-10-10 06:51:56 PM
i187.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-10 06:52:46 PM
How Stupid Do They Think We Are?

I don't know, but I'm sure you're going to show us.
 
2012-10-10 06:53:20 PM
The calculations for the unemployment have all sorts of defects, but at least it's an honest metric.
This move reminds me of when the Texas legislature voted to round off Pi to 3.
 
2012-10-10 06:53:23 PM

Fart_Machine: cretinbob: Yeah, since Whitewater turned out so well.....

Forget Whitewater. These tards were pushing that Clinton had Vince Foster assassinated back in the day. I'm totally shocked they'd push another conspiracy theory.


It's all they've got at this point. Limbaugh posits roughly 5-7 conspiracy theories per show, because he knows no one is going to call him on any of it publicly. It would be like calling out the daily globe for running one too many bat-boy stories at this point.
 
2012-10-10 06:56:06 PM

meat0918: Christ Almighty, these guys hate that America is doing better.

It could not be more obvious.


sadly this.

despite their best efforts too.

hence an American citizen votes (D) on every election, best part? forever.
 
2012-10-10 06:58:12 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-10 06:59:38 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Vodka Zombie: Aarontology: BSABSVR: I'm worried about the suburban riots if Obama wins period.

haha. Suburbanites rioting.

What're they gonna do? Mope in the Best Buy parking lot?

They're going to mass in the Panera parking lot and use the free WiFi to write lengthy screeds on their blogs.

"I parked my X5 in the fire lane in front of Ruby Tuesday's and REFUSED TO MOVE! Until lunch."


"I put up a sign in my front yard in clear violation of my HOA's by-laws!"
 
2012-10-10 07:01:20 PM
You know they are serious because they bolded the whole article.
 
2012-10-10 07:05:12 PM

Aarontology: Yeah, good luck with that.


Yup, what he said.

//It's like the GOP is just handing the Dems talking points. "Our opponents launched an investigation of basic math because it said something they didn't like". Is the GOP hoping to just make their actual positions so absurd that no Dem can finish describing them without dying of laughter-related suffocation?
 
2012-10-10 07:05:55 PM

MeinRS6: How do we know the revisions to these numbers are coming after the election? - Link

And when they are revised, the BLS will sound just like the Obama Admin does today on Libya. "We didn't lie. We were reporting on the information that we had." Except that's not really true in the case of Libya or in the case of the BLS, as numbers from the past indicate that a serious adjustment will need to be made.


I'm looking forward to 4 more years of you sounding "concerned". See you in November, Chad.
 
2012-10-10 07:09:45 PM
I want to see what they are willing to give up in the budget before they start the investigation. Somebody has to pay for it.

Hey , whatever happened in that Fast and Furious investigation???

// the only ones making any money are the lawyers...
 
2012-10-10 07:11:48 PM
How Stupid Do They Think We Are?

Obviously they think you're stupid enough to believe that unemployment went under 8% one month before the election, but not so dumb that you'd believe it went under 8% a year ago.
 
2012-10-10 07:14:00 PM

meat0918: Christ Almighty, these guys hate that America is doing better.

It could not be more obvious.


After all the hard work from Fox/GOP, from birth certificates to "fast and furious," nothing has gained the traction these people have been hoping for.

Apparently, the hearings on Libya haven't properly panicked the masses enough to suit the party ... so they're rolling the dice on this.

If the GOP hadn't spent the last four years being a bunch of petulant, nation-starving jerks with a "stop-Obama-at-all-costs" attitude, they might have managed to give their guy a clear lead for this election.

As it stands, their entire campaign boils down to "vote for Obama and we'll make your life hell for the next four years."

And they wonder why people don't respond to them ...
 
2012-10-10 07:14:15 PM

MeinRS6: How do we know the revisions to these numbers are coming after the election? - Link

And when they are revised, the BLS will sound just like the Obama Admin does today on Libya. "We didn't lie. We were reporting on the information that we had." Except that's not really true in the case of Libya or in the case of the BLS, as numbers from the past indicate that a serious adjustment will need to be made.


Luckily our law system doesn't let us investigate and harass people just because you don't like them and think they look suspicious. Well I guess it does. But that doesn't make it okay
 
2012-10-10 07:14:37 PM

BunkoSquad: I thought Congress got elected to bring back jobs.


And now that jobs are coming back, they're doing all they can to refute it.
 
2012-10-10 07:14:41 PM
Good call, because all those career statisticians care more about fudging a few fractions of a percentage point in this one election out of many they've run statistics on than they care about their career and reputation.
 
2012-10-10 07:17:11 PM
You think for a side that is steadily gaining ground this election, they wouldn't be so desperate as this article seems to suggest.
 
2012-10-10 07:20:11 PM

GhostWing: meat0918: Christ Almighty, these guys hate that America is doing better.

It could not be more obvious.

After all the hard work from Fox/GOP, from birth certificates to "fast and furious," nothing has gained the traction these people have been hoping for.

Apparently, the hearings on Libya haven't properly panicked the masses enough to suit the party ... so they're rolling the dice on this.

If the GOP hadn't spent the last four years being a bunch of petulant, nation-starving jerks with a "stop-Obama-at-all-costs" attitude, they might have managed to give their guy a clear lead for this election.

As it stands, their entire campaign boils down to "vote for Obama and we'll make your life hell for the next four years."

And they wonder why people don't respond to them ...


I remember liberals here warning Republicans that non-stop trivial stories focusing on arugula, mustard, and birth certificates would lead to average Americans tuning their criticism, even valid criticism, of Obama out.

You reap what you sow.
 
2012-10-10 07:23:11 PM
Or rather, "Stop trying to threadjack to distract from your party's platform of bat shiat conspiracy theory endorsement"
 
2012-10-10 07:26:25 PM

meat0918: Or rather, "Stop trying to threadjack to distract from your party's platform of bat shiat conspiracy theory endorsement"


Whoops, wrong thread.
 
2012-10-10 07:28:18 PM
Just Asking Questions
I am not alleging fraud or manipulation by the career bureaucrats at the BLS



Just Blindly Mashing Random Keys On My Keyboard
I'm not calling the author of TFA a frothing retard who enjoys blowing llamas
 
2012-10-10 07:30:36 PM

GleeUnit: DO IT.


i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-10 07:33:18 PM
Who needs the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), when you have Rush Limbaugh?

Who needs an article that begins with a line like that?!
 
2012-10-10 07:36:25 PM

meat0918: meat0918: Or rather, "Stop trying to threadjack to distract from your party's platform of bat shiat conspiracy theory endorsement"

Whoops, wrong thread.


I honestly didn't notice. And that is bad news....for republicans.
 
2012-10-10 07:36:41 PM
Republicans are the farking worst. Yes, that includes Drew Curtis, the owner of this very website.
 
2012-10-10 07:36:48 PM
Darrell Issa, right?

/did not look at article
//Issa is the reincarnation of a Jesuit from the Spanish Inquisition
 
2012-10-10 07:38:21 PM

GleeUnit: DO IT.


This. Double dog dare ya, jackasses.
 
2012-10-10 07:38:33 PM
Whitewater was actually first mentioned by Jerry Brown, but the Republicans ran with it.
 
2012-10-10 07:41:26 PM
YOU LOST ME
AT LIMBAUGH
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2012-10-10 07:43:34 PM

cloud_van_dame: Darrell Issa, right?

/did not look at article
//Issa is the reincarnation of a Jesuit from the Spanish Inquisition


He's unexpected?
 
2012-10-10 07:46:54 PM
I work at BLS (but not with the Current Employment Statistics program), and the apolitical environment there has always been very pleasing to me. Hell, we don't even have a politically-appointed commissioner right now. Investigate away.
 
2012-10-10 07:48:54 PM

bv2112: I work at BLS (but not with the Current Employment Statistics program), and the apolitical environment there has always been very pleasing to me. Hell, we don't even have a politically-appointed commissioner right now. Investigate away.


Yeah but does your cafeteria still serve Freedom Fries?

Nope, didn't think so, you liberal commie! This obviously means that the BLS is in the tank for Fartbamas.
 
2012-10-10 07:53:44 PM
What's with the Household Survey's miraculous spurt of 873,000 new jobs?

static2.businessinsider.com

Yeah it's almost like this happens from time to time. Like a few months ago.
 
2012-10-10 07:55:26 PM

Mrtraveler01: Yeah but does your cafeteria still serve Freedom Fries?


They serve scrapple every single morning.
 
2012-10-10 07:56:45 PM
When you take into account the millions of predictions that Rush makes that never come close to coming true, you'd come to accept that this particular once coming true is nothing more than the law of large numbers coming into play. In other words, dumb farking luck, blind coincidence, etc. Apparently people forget that the unemployment rate was 8.1% in friggin' JUNE and then went up two months in a row before coming back down again.
 
2012-10-10 08:00:37 PM
The total number of net new jobs created since Obama became President according to the BLS: 787,000.

What's that number for 8 years under Bush?

*crickets*
 
2012-10-10 08:11:48 PM

theknuckler_33: The total number of net new jobs created since Obama became President according to the BLS: 787,000.

What's that number for 8 years under Bush?

*crickets*


According to official GOP statistics, that number is somewhere between "B-b-b-but Bush!" and "Potato".
 
2012-10-10 08:16:24 PM

meat0918: Christ Almighty, these guys hate that America is doing better.

It could not be more obvious.


If I spent four years working towards one thing, then it didn't pan out, I'd be pretty pissed as well.
 
2012-10-10 08:21:28 PM
At what point does this bullshiat cross the line into treason?
 
2012-10-10 08:40:05 PM

zarberg: Good call, because all those career statisticians care more about fudging a few fractions of a percentage point in this one election out of many they've run statistics on than they care about their career and reputation.


So much this.
 
2012-10-10 08:50:19 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: At what point does this bullshiat cross the line into treason?


Unfortunately not until they provide material assistance to an enemy of the US.
 
2012-10-10 08:53:10 PM
Now wait just a minute. I thought this thing was all sewn up now after the debate.

Why would something like this even be necessary?
 
2012-10-10 08:53:26 PM
You know how for the last 30 years, the republican party has been pushing a solution for torte reform where claimants to suits that are deemed "frivolous" must pay all the court costs?

Howsabout they put their money where there mouth is and put up some of those superpac billions for each of Darrell Issa's fishing expeditions that turn up NOTHING.
 
2012-10-10 08:57:59 PM

udhq: You know how for the last 30 years, the republican party has been pushing a solution for torte reform where claimants to suits that are deemed "frivolous" must pay all the court costs?


It's a lie.
 
2012-10-10 08:59:07 PM

vrax: According to official GOP statistics, that number is somewhere between "B-b-b-but Bush!" and "Potato".


That's phonetically correct, but it is spelled potatoe.
 
2012-10-10 09:04:33 PM
Really, we're going to farking do that? Why not another hearing on "czars"?
 
2012-10-10 09:04:35 PM

bv2112: vrax: According to official GOP statistics, that number is somewhere between "B-b-b-but Bush!" and "Potato".

That's phonetically correct, but it is spelled potatoe.


Dammit, I suck as spellin'!
 
2012-10-10 09:10:06 PM

indylaw: Really, we're going to farking do that? Why not another hearing on "czars"?


You probably know this already, but it's because the current Republican party cares 1000 times more about making Obama a one-term president than they do actually helping their constituents and improving the country.

They've been so blatant about it, it's almost like they came right out and said it ...

oh wait.
 
2012-10-10 09:20:23 PM

meat0918: I;m more worried about a lone wolf scenario with some guy losing his shiat in the weeks after Obama wins.


This! so many times over. Republicans have been telling this uneducated, easily swayed people for four years that Obama is evil. That he is a demon straight from hell sent to destroy everything they love.

If he wins. Again. Despite all this? Despite their fervent belief that god is on their side and justice is on their side and this USURPER cannot possibly be president because he is EVIL and WRONG and he is coming for their children and their families and their faith?

You can only bombard people with that message for so long, and then have them be disappointed in the results for so long, before someone snaps. Before a lot of people snap. This could get very, very ugly.
 
2012-10-10 09:24:09 PM

cloud_van_dame: Darrell Issa, right?

/did not look at article
//Issa is the reincarnation of a Jesuit from the Spanish Inquisition


That was my first thought too. (Issa is my Rep.)

But no, it's just some partisan hack with a published screed
 
2012-10-10 09:26:31 PM

Dalrint: meat0918: I;m more worried about a lone wolf scenario with some guy losing his shiat in the weeks after Obama wins.

This! so many times over. Republicans have been telling this uneducated, easily swayed people for four years that Obama is evil. That he is a demon straight from hell sent to destroy everything they love.

If he wins. Again. Despite all this? Despite their fervent belief that god is on their side and justice is on their side and this USURPER cannot possibly be president because he is EVIL and WRONG and he is coming for their children and their families and their faith?

You can only bombard people with that message for so long, and then have them be disappointed in the results for so long, before someone snaps. Before a lot of people snap. This could get very, very ugly.


Of course, Republicans will blame Obama for the increased cost of Secret Service protection for the President.
 
2012-10-10 09:42:10 PM
BLS?! More like BLT

mmm BLT
 
2012-10-10 09:57:33 PM
Besides, I hate to break it to you, but the October Surprise is going to be a war between Syria, Turkey and Jordan.
 
2012-10-10 10:39:43 PM
I thought we didn't investigate War Presidents because they are all busy with their warry-type stuff.

Do they hate America or something?
 
2012-10-10 10:52:03 PM

FlashHarry: unemployment 8.1%: OBAMA IS A TERRIBLE PRESIDENT BECAUSE THE NONPARTISAN BLS SAYS SO
unemployment 7.8%: THE BLS IS COOKING THE BOOKS FOR OBAMA

this is what republicans actually believe

 
 
2012-10-10 11:21:29 PM

GWSuperfan: That was my first thought too. (Issa is my Rep.)


Yeah, well my rep is Todd Akin, so suck it.
 
2012-10-11 12:03:54 AM
MeinRS6 is such an effective turd dropper. That clown strolls in here and drops his dinkleberries and quickly leaves before he can get called out to clean up his mess.

He's a jackass, no doubt, but still an effective turd dropper.
 
2012-10-11 12:10:53 AM

gilgigamesh: MeinRS6: mrshowrules: It is the official unemployment number.

It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.

So you are suggesting - and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong -- that the Obama administration somehow infiltrated the BLS and fixed these statistics? Is that what you are claiming?

If so, please elaborate. I can't wait to hear how this was accomplished.


I'm not suggesting a conspiracy. I'm saying that history shows us that these numbers will most likely be heavily modified after the election. The numbers are also aberrant to previous numbers, as I showed with the link above. So maybe instead of a conspiracy, this is a case of garbage in/garbage out. Of course, the timing of the coming corrections is very convenient for Obama, but that is less sinister than the results themselves, that run counter to previous stats when growth was so poor.
 
2012-10-11 12:12:18 AM

Mi-5: MeinRS6 is such an effective turd dropper. That clown strolls in here and drops his dinkleberries and quickly leaves before he can get called out to clean up his mess.

He's a jackass, no doubt, but still an effective turd dropper.


STFU tard.
 
2012-10-11 12:13:44 AM
I don't get all the hubbub really.... 7.8% still sucks. Sure, we're finally back to where we were on Obama's day one but that is hardly worth getting worked up about. We're going in the right direction as slow as that may be... what really matters is what happens Jan. 1 when the marginal rates all go back up with that much less disposable income and the massive shiatstorm coming that is Spain and Greece and the value of the euro.
 
2012-10-11 12:31:59 AM

theknuckler_33: Apparently people forget that the unemployment rate was 8.1% in friggin' JUNE and then went up two months in a row before coming back down again.


Also it usually drops in September, back to school, etc.
 
2012-10-11 12:59:29 AM
I'd point out that this thread's most prodigious shiatter is a well-known alt-troll, but last time I did that I was slapped down by the powers.
 
2012-10-11 01:07:38 AM
i75.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-11 01:35:30 AM
What the HELL am I reading?
 
2012-10-11 02:00:23 AM

MeinRS6: Mi-5: MeinRS6 is such an effective turd dropper. That clown strolls in here and drops his dinkleberries and quickly leaves before he can get called out to clean up his mess.

He's a jackass, no doubt, but still an effective turd dropper.

STFU tard.


Oh you are here. Welcome back, Mr. Dinkleberry.

So you are basically saying that BLS cooked the books specifically to help Obama, right? What about all the other times when the numbers weren't so favorable? Did you say then that they were cooking the books to hurt Obama?

Or is the real reason that you are so wedded to the concept of "your team" winning (GOP) that you would actually like people to be out of work and struggling to make the "other team" look bad?

Turn in your American citizenship, shiatbird.
 
2012-10-11 05:11:10 AM

cloud_van_dame: Darrell Issa, right?

/did not look at article
//Issa is the reincarnation of a Jesuit from the Spanish Inquisition


I wouldn't give him that much credit. He's more of a dirty thug, the enforcer for some second-rate organized crime family (a.k.a the House Republicans). "Teflon" Darrell Issa has somehow managed to get himself accused of a few separate incidents of car theft, threatening an ex-employee with a gun, and was investigated for arson and insurance fraud after a business he had recently bought and insured burned down. The only charge the authorities were able to get him on was illegally having an unregistered gun in his glove compartment, which would be a felony and jail time for most anyone else.

He has also recently broke federal law by illegally revealed confidential information from a sealed wiretap by inserting it in Congressional record, and did this while conducting a politically-motivated witch hunt.

Link
 
2012-10-11 06:21:28 AM

MeinRS6: get called out to clean up his mess.

He's a jackass, no doubt, but still an effective turd dropper.

STFU tard.


Haha, I'll bite on troll bait just to laugh at you, effective turd dropper.

/poopin' EVERYWHERE.
/you need a new alt, no one takes you seriously.
 
2012-10-11 06:31:20 AM

cc_rider: He has also recently broke federal law by illegally revealed confidential information from a sealed wiretap by inserting it in Congressional record, and did this while conducting a politically-motivated witch hunt.


bobmccarty.com
"Pfffffft. Amateur."
 
2012-10-11 07:13:12 AM
Remember, kids: What they want here is a big, obvious, full-bodied, obnoxious, 24-hour-news-cycle-bloating investigation, but they don't want results. They want to create the perception of wrongdoing.

Once this lawyerly boondoggle gets underway, the log line will be "They're being investigated. Clearly, they did something wrong." And the sufficiently low information voters will lap it up and beg for more.
 
2012-10-11 07:28:41 AM

MeinRS6: I'm not suggesting a conspiracy. I'm saying that history shows us that these numbers will most likely be heavily modified after the election.


It goes the other way too. Some especially dismal numbers have been revised upwards, but all anybody pays attention to is the first draft.

This metric is a load of crap, but you can thank the GOP this time around for running with it. Congratulations, you made this bed, now lie in it.
 
2012-10-11 08:13:36 AM
Remember, this statistic was perfectly okay and arrived at properly in past months when it made Obama look bad, but now that there's some good news that might help Obama, it's all "OH MY GOD! CONSPIRACY! THE BOOKS ARE COOKED!"

I guess a little honesty is too much to expect from the modern GOP.
 
2012-10-11 08:23:23 AM
It reminds of that scene in the Green Mile.

"Percy, what in God's name do you think you're doing?"
"Chasin' the mouse. I'm gonna squish the motherfarker."
"Percy, we already tried th-"
*Paul waves off Brutal*
"Knock yourself out..."
 
2012-10-11 08:28:27 AM
TFA: "Indeed, since Obama became President, the working age population has increased by 8.4 million. At the same labor force participation rate as when Obama entered office, that would require 5.52 million new jobs just to keep pace with that population growth."

The labor force participation rate began its steady decline when Clinton was leaving the presidency. It's time for a new investigation all right, but one the sycophant mouth-breather who penned that piece of crap should dread. It's high time to investigate the Right.
 
2012-10-11 08:34:28 AM

Dog Welder: I guess a little honesty is too much to expect from the modern GOP.


deeannarogers.files.wordpress.com
"Are you kidding? Did you see my poll numbers after the debate? The people are eating this stuff up!"
 
2012-10-11 09:04:16 AM

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Remember, kids: What they want here is a big, obvious, full-bodied, obnoxious, 24-hour-news-cycle-bloating investigation, but they don't want results. They want to create the perception of wrongdoing.

Once this lawyerly boondoggle gets underway, the log line will be "They're being investigated. Clearly, they did something wrong." And the sufficiently low information voters will lap it up and beg for more.


i.i.com.com

"That's what I said!"
 
2012-10-11 10:41:39 AM

moothemagiccow: BLS?! More like BLT

mmm BLT


Except for a nice MLT: a mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky, I love that.
 
2012-10-11 11:15:50 AM

mrjared: You know they are serious because they bolded the whole article.


"Just asking questions"

That phrase has been so poisoned for me since the advent of trutherism/birtherism. No stupidity/insanity/idiocy is off-limits now if you just recite that mantra.
 
2012-10-11 11:17:53 AM

Dog Welder: Remember, this statistic was perfectly okay and arrived at properly in past months when it made Obama look bad, but now that there's some good news that might help Obama, it's all "OH MY GOD! CONSPIRACY! THE BOOKS ARE COOKED!"

I guess a little honesty is too much to expect from the modern GOP.


Oh, look. It's somebody else that doesn't know what they are talking about.

I already posted a link that described in detail how this number was different than the previous months - and any other moth in recorded BLS history. Buy hey, you keep going on about conspiracies if it makes you feel good. This is about math, not the Illuminati.
 
2012-10-11 11:35:45 AM

MeinRS6: It's a pantload of truthiness is what it is.


And you're "not suggesting a conspiracy"? You fit in just fine with the other RW apologists who don't seem to have any qualms about lying about their own statements. But I'm sure you'll "clarify".

I'm saying that history shows us that these numbers will most likely be heavily modified after the election.

By using a link to the AEI? One of the host of neocon "think tanks" that basically rates the Obama administration as equivalent to the Stalin regime? Yeah. sounds legit.
 
2012-10-11 11:46:49 AM

Flaming Yawn: By using a link to the AEI? One of the host of neocon "think tanks" that basically rates the Obama administration as equivalent to the Stalin regime? Yeah. sounds legit.


Would you care to make a wager on whether or not the revision will put unemployment above 8% again?

I didn't think so.
 
2012-10-11 12:11:16 PM

MeinRS6: I already posted a link that described in detail how this number was different than the previous months - and any other moth in recorded BLS history.


The four examples of unemployment reduction in a slow growth economy show no pattern. Using your quoted source, the ration of net new payrolls to household employment are:

May 2010 - 15.18
Dec 2010 - 0.42
Jan 2011 - 1.00
Sep 2012 - 0.13

LFP rate fell during 1, 2 and 4 (as it has consistently for over 20 years) and rose only for 3. Tea leaves and baked turtle shells generate more consistent patterns.
 
2012-10-11 12:32:01 PM
It's when there is almost zero growth and to have such a large spike in jobs is what is unprecedented.
 
2012-10-11 12:34:20 PM

MeinRS6: It's when there is almost zero growth and to have such a large spike in jobs is what is unprecedented.


I'm not playing this game, those numbers showed wide variance in growth too.
 
2012-10-11 12:54:16 PM

neenerist: MeinRS6: It's when there is almost zero growth and to have such a large spike in jobs is what is unprecedented.

I'm not playing this game, those numbers showed wide variance in growth too.


What they didn't show is almost zero growth and a huge jump in jobs.
 
2012-10-11 03:12:32 PM
Probably too late, but MeinRS6, your premise is flawed. the unemployment estimates do not get revised in the manner you are suggesting, the payroll numbers do. The CPS(household) numbers are revised for prior years(5) to reflect new seasonal adjustment factors. Rates change in the -.1 to +.1 range. You can look at December historical releases to see what happened each year. No pattern in last few years I can see. Also, in January, new population controls are introduced, but only affect the figures going forward.
The payroll data, as has been noted, get revised a lot.And then they get benchmarked to the QCEW, which is the 'universe' of all unemployment insurance paying employers. But that is a quarterly program with a considerable lag, as it is a massive amount of data.
 
2012-10-11 05:08:15 PM
You forgot to explain how this unprecedented rise in employment with almost no growth took place though. You are talking about things that happen every year and I'm talking about something that has never happened before. I don't know why you can't see the difference. Willful ignorance perhaps. I read that California stats were not included at all in these most recent numbers as well. That's a nice break for Obama.

I guess we can discuss this again in Nov, when unemployment mysteriously is adjusted back up. Getting rid of Obama is the best thing that can happen for the unemployment rate.
 
2012-10-11 05:16:21 PM

MeinRS6: You forgot to explain how this unprecedented rise in employment with almost no growth took place though. You are talking about things that happen every year and I'm talking about something that has never happened before. I don't know why you can't see the difference. Willful ignorance perhaps. I read that California stats were not included at all in these most recent numbers as well. That's a nice break for Obama.

I guess we can discuss this again in Nov, when unemployment mysteriously is adjusted back up. Getting rid of Obama is the best thing that can happen for the unemployment rate.


You really think this was some kind of conspiracy by the White House? Have you really gotten this idiotic?
 
2012-10-11 10:10:58 PM
Learn to read. I've already addressed that.
 
2012-10-12 01:44:49 AM

Halli: Have you really gotten this idiotic?


MeinRS6: Learn to read. I've already addressed that.


Okay then. Moving on.
 
2012-10-12 01:39:59 PM
my bad,Mein. Alhough you're a troll, I thought that you were actually invested in dealing with this particular point honestly.You have repeatedly said the unemployment rate wil be revised, including a specific "over 8%". So, how about a wager on that?
 
2012-10-12 02:15:20 PM

MeinRS6: Learn to read. I've already addressed that.


It's not a conspiracy but it's a conspiracy!
 
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