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2012-10-10 11:38:19 PM

trappedspirit: Robert S. Smith, an associate judge, asked whether that meant the members of the rival gangs were also terrorists.

"In the abstract, yes," Mr. Coddington answered.

"So everyone is a terrorist," Judge Smith said.

Because gang members and police is the same thing. Accurate comprehension.

 
2012-10-11 04:46:36 AM

cleek: here's the USA PATRIOT act's definition of "domestic terrorist":

the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--

`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

`(B) appear to be intended--

`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

`(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and

`(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.'. 

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Section802.html#802

pretty goddamned broad.

thanks W !


(A) I freely admit that I have, in the past, jaywalked. I plan to do it again in the future, as well.

"B" is mainly covered by religious and governmental institutions.

/I knew it was wrong; I did it anyway.
 
2012-10-11 09:01:15 AM

cleek: here's the USA PATRIOT act's definition of "domestic terrorist":

the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--

`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

`(B) appear to be intended--

`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

`(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and

`(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.'. 

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Section802.html#802

pretty goddamned broad.

thanks W !


It appears that legislating a war is terrorism, who knew?

/also, sanctions
 
2012-10-11 12:46:43 PM

BullBearMS: YixilTesiphon: cleek: thanks W !

And Biden, and basically everyone in the Congress in 2001, and Obama for re-upping it, and basically everyone in Congress when that happened...when both parties get together to do something, America's getting farked.

this, This, THIS, THIS

Let's remind ourselves of just how bipartisan this bullshiat is:

On Thursday, Democratic and Republican congressional leaders agreed to a deal to extend key provisions of the Patriot Act for four years, a significant decision that generated little press attention or sustained political debate.

Certain sections of the Patriot Act, which originally passed Congress a month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks with near-unanimous support, have long been criticized by civil libertarians in both political parties.

But the Obama administration and its allies on Capitol Hill have been eager to renew about-to-expire provisions that expanded domestic intelligence collection and wiretapping powers. As the AP put it, "The idea [of the deal] is to pass the extension with as little debate as possible to avoid a protracted and familiar argument over the expanded power the law gives to the government." A vote is expected within several days.


Anybody have citation for little detail of 80% of warrants and prosecutions under the "Patriot Act" have been for drug offences, not Terribalism.

Just givin' security here, Boss.
 
2012-10-11 03:30:28 PM

cleek: here's the USA PATRIOT act's definition of "domestic terrorist":

the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--

`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

`(B) appear to be intended--

`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

`(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and

`(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.'. 

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Section802.html#802

pretty goddamned broad.

thanks W !


Yea good thing Obama is fighting to repeal it. Oh wait.
 
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