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2012-10-10 11:39:46 AM
Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.
 
2012-10-10 11:47:16 AM

dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.


I read this and my computer was loading google analytics and facebook. Thanks Drew.
 
2012-10-10 01:59:36 PM
Interesting...thanks subby,
 
2012-10-10 02:11:54 PM

dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.


Don't use Verizon Wireless.
 
2012-10-10 02:13:15 PM

ChipNASA: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

Don't use Verizon Wireless.


Don't use AT&T
 
2012-10-10 02:14:35 PM

ChipNASA: ChipNASA: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

Don't use Verizon Wireless.

Don't use AT&T


Change you're piracy settings.
 
2012-10-10 02:14:51 PM
Or; you could turn the locator feature off; like a normal person.
 
2012-10-10 02:14:56 PM
Reading this soon on my Verizon phone, will get a kick...
 
2012-10-10 02:15:53 PM
Line pocket with tin foil?
 
2012-10-10 02:18:29 PM

Whack-a-Mole: Reading this soon on my Verizon phone, will get a kick...


We ALL See What You Did There.....
 
2012-10-10 02:18:47 PM
"Hello Mr Yakamoto! Welcome back to the Gap"
 
2012-10-10 02:20:38 PM
i don't guess i know much about a cell phone ..
 
2012-10-10 02:21:22 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-10 02:24:37 PM
Thanks subby. I just did the At&t opt out
 
2012-10-10 02:32:09 PM
I think the opt out is the big button that runs nothing after it gets pushed, but it really makes everyone feel better.
 
2012-10-10 02:37:23 PM
They might be able to tell that iPhone users are most active between the hours of 12 and 2, and generally use 80% of their monthly bandwidth, with 50% of that going to YouTube!

halfpintwords.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-10 02:42:05 PM
Go ahead and take it, don't care
 
GBB
2012-10-10 02:42:27 PM
listverse.files.wordpress.com
"Why would I pull out my teeth, Bob? That's a no no."
 
2012-10-10 02:47:20 PM

pkellmey: I think the opt out is the big button that runs nothing after it gets pushed, but it really makes everyone feel better.


Ya mean the button that lights a sign saying, "Release to Detonate" ?

//as opposed to the button that lights a sign saying, "Please DO NOT push this button again"
 
2012-10-10 02:52:20 PM
Thanks Subby!
 
2012-10-10 02:58:46 PM
Never had an issue with Verizon, but I don't like this - so I went to the Verizon site mentioned in the article, signed in, and even though I don't have an iPhone or just bought a smart phone in the last 30 days, I was still able to opt out of sharing my info from my Blackberry! Thanks!!!
 
2012-10-10 03:01:59 PM

AbbeySomeone: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

I read this and my computer was loading google analytics and facebook. Thanks Drew.


Ghostery add-on.
 
2012-10-10 03:02:07 PM

dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.


We should stop using electricity too!
 
2012-10-10 03:03:38 PM

ChipNASA: ChipNASA: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

Don't use Verizon Wireless.

Don't use AT&T


Nuke Madison Avenue.
 
2012-10-10 03:21:27 PM
Can someone tell me why I should be concerned about these things? Does it matter if Google know where I am? Or if Verizon sells usage stats to advertisers? I can't see anything worrying about a company knowing I read Fark occasionally when home, and a lot when at work. That's the kind of stuff they'd get isn't it? Or do they get my name, address, tel no, job, picture, contacts list etc? That might bother me... might, but knowing roughly what I do online so they can advertise to me is fine...

Anyway, even with all the info they still don't get it right. Everytime I buy something on the internet, something that requires any amount of prior preparation and research, like an oven, or a fridge, or a new computer, not impulsive stuff, I go through all the websites and they build up a picture of me as someone who likes ovens, fridges etc, so then send me those adverts, despite the fact that I've bought one, which they can't know, so ... if anything I think I should tell them they're wasting their time and money.
 
2012-10-10 03:24:22 PM
but i don't care of they have the data?
 
2012-10-10 03:26:04 PM

ehahn: Never had an issue with Verizon, but I don't like this - so I went to the Verizon site mentioned in the article, signed in, and even though I don't have an iPhone or just bought a smart phone in the last 30 days, I was still able to opt out of sharing my info from my Blackberry! Thanks!!!


you bought a blackberry in the past 30 days???????????????????????????????????????


brb, can't breathe
 
2012-10-10 03:26:52 PM

ChipNASA: ChipNASA: ChipNASA: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

Don't use Verizon Wireless.

Don't use AT&T

Change you're piracy settings.


I'm not sure what grammar deficient pirates have to do with this.
 
2012-10-10 03:27:40 PM

iheartscotch: Or; you could turn the locator feature off; like a normal person.


Huh? Your carrier knows where you are, regardless. How else would your phone work?
 
2012-10-10 03:33:07 PM

DarkSkyForever: ChipNASA: ChipNASA: ChipNASA: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

Don't use Verizon Wireless.

Don't use AT&T

Change you're piracy settings.

I'm not sure what grammar deficient pirates have to do with this.


I can't believe it took that long for someone to biatch about an obvious softball like that. LOL
 
2012-10-10 03:39:29 PM

Slaxl: Can someone tell me why I should be concerned about these things?


It doesn't matter if they know where *you* are.

It does matter if they know where *millions* are. They don't care what your name is -- you have a number, like a tagged sheep, and by watching how we all wander, they learn how to manipulate us in great numbers.

It's applied sociology, and it's what runs our political campaigns. Why take the time to explain the value of a product when I can just tag you, find out what you respond to through aggregate data (as you'll lie on surveys, even if you don't realize you're lying), and manipulate you without your knowing?
 
2012-10-10 03:50:04 PM

Slaxl: Can someone tell me why I should be concerned about these things? Does it matter if Google know where I am? Or if Verizon sells usage stats to advertisers? I can't see anything worrying about a company knowing I read Fark occasionally when home, and a lot when at work. That's the kind of stuff they'd get isn't it? Or do they get my name, address, tel no, job, picture, contacts list etc? That might bother me... might, but knowing roughly what I do online so they can advertise to me is fine...

Anyway, even with all the info they still don't get it right. Everytime I buy something on the internet, something that requires any amount of prior preparation and research, like an oven, or a fridge, or a new computer, not impulsive stuff, I go through all the websites and they build up a picture of me as someone who likes ovens, fridges etc, so then send me those adverts, despite the fact that I've bought one, which they can't know, so ... if anything I think I should tell them they're wasting their time and money.


They learn who you are, what you do and what you like. Then they frame your reality to suit their purposes. To make money. To make you think like them. To control you. You get advice about what to do while being blocked from other options. You get crappy products placed in easy reach to make you forgo reaching for something better. Your habits are tracked to make their methods of extracting wealth from you easier. YOU get programed to do what they want you to, not what you would like.

At any point where you go outside the boundies they set for you, they force you back into them. Your credit, your reputation, your job -- it all becomes dials and knobs they can turn to make you do what they want. And the reason is you gladly give them this information for something free, so you only have yourself to blame.
 
2012-10-10 03:50:38 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Slaxl: Can someone tell me why I should be concerned about these things?

It doesn't matter if they know where *you* are.

It does matter if they know where *millions* are. They don't care what your name is -- you have a number, like a tagged sheep, and by watching how we all wander, they learn how to manipulate us in great numbers.

It's applied sociology, and it's what runs our political campaigns. Why take the time to explain the value of a product when I can just tag you, find out what you respond to through aggregate data (as you'll lie on surveys, even if you don't realize you're lying), and manipulate you without your knowing?


Political campaigns? In America? There is no real choice anyway, so it doesn't matter. If you want a real demacracy, look at any parliamentary system with proportional representation.
 
2012-10-10 03:54:42 PM

tbhouston: ehahn: Never had an issue with Verizon, but I don't like this - so I went to the Verizon site mentioned in the article, signed in, and even though I don't have an iPhone or just bought a smart phone in the last 30 days, I was still able to opt out of sharing my info from my Blackberry! Thanks!!!

you bought a blackberry in the past 30 days???????????????????????????????????????

brb, can't breathe


Kind of like Apple, RIM has rabid fanbois who absolutely love it. Obviously there aren't nearly enough of them, but they're out there.
 
2012-10-10 04:11:54 PM
I think its a good thing. Maybe it'll inspire these jerks to finally use hardcore porn to advertise to us when they realize thats what 80-99% of our usage is.
 
2012-10-10 04:16:09 PM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 375x500]


So, you're just posting that pic in every thread you visit today?
 
2012-10-10 04:20:59 PM

Slaves2Darkness: "Hello Mr Yakamoto! Welcome back to the Gap"


Good one!!!
/Watch out for the flowers. You might start to feel a bit ill.
 
2012-10-10 04:28:36 PM
Helpful information. I'm an AT&T customer - the article had a link to the AT&T opt out form.
 
2012-10-10 04:28:47 PM
Slaxl : Can someone tell me why I should be concerned about these things? Does it matter if Google know where I am? Or if Verizon sells usage stats to advertisers?

1) You're paying them for a service, and they're collecting your data and selling it on the side, with no benefit for you (even credit card companies and store loyalty cards throw you a bone for the data they're collecting. The very least Verizon).

2) It's opt out (which is a big NO NO in terms of user service).

The least they can do is have it off by default, and give people a $5/month discount on their bill for turning it on. (Even those snail mail survey people put a buck or two into the envelope when they send it to you.)
 
2012-10-10 04:30:44 PM
DarkSkyForever: "Change you're piracy settings." I'm not sure what grammar deficient pirates have to do with this.

I think they meant "Change yaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr piracy settings".
 
2012-10-10 04:38:40 PM

ProfessorOhki: They might be able to tell that iPhone users are most active between the hours of 12 and 2, and generally use 80% of their monthly bandwidth, with 50% of that going to YouTube!

[halfpintwords.files.wordpress.com image 289x240]


2600 v29#2 has a piece on how to firewall your i-phone to stop just this sort of thing. it starts on page 29
 
2012-10-10 04:42:21 PM

ChipNASA: Whack-a-Mole: Reading this soon on my Verizon phone, will get a kick...

We ALL See What You Did There.....


and now i did RTFA, it doesn't seem to apply to my company BB that I've had for years so guess i'll head to the gym.
 
2012-10-10 04:49:02 PM

AbbeySomeone: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

I read this and my computer was loading google analytics and facebook. Thanks Drew.


Adblock can stop google analytics with one rule. Facebook needs about 3.

It's pretty easy to not be tracked by your own browser. Your ISP? Lil different.
 
2012-10-10 04:49:33 PM
...am I the only one who got several letters in the mail months (years?) ago explicitly stating everything that TFA treats like a grand, secret conspiracy? Sure, it's stupid that you have to manually opt out, but when Verizon sends out multiple letters/emails explaining exactly what they are planning to do and how to opt out if you don't want to be a part of it, it's hardly some big farking secret.
 
2012-10-10 04:50:06 PM
I had nothing else to contribute to this thread.
 
2012-10-10 04:55:07 PM

AbbeySomeone: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

I read this and my computer was loading google analytics and facebook. Thanks Drew.


Get Ghostery.

On this page:
Facebook Connect
Federated Media
Google +1
Google Adsense
Google Analytics
Quantcast
ScoreCard Research Beacon
 
2012-10-10 04:57:11 PM

moothemagiccow: Facebook needs about 3.


Share-me-not add-on blocks all Facebook tracking, along with other social network tracking.
 
2012-10-10 04:58:35 PM

KierzanDax: AbbeySomeone: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

I read this and my computer was loading google analytics and facebook. Thanks Drew.

Get Ghostery.

On this page:
Facebook Connect
Federated Media
Google +1
Google Adsense
Google Analytics
Quantcast
ScoreCard Research Beacon


Blocked: 7 of 7

It's a bit of a performance killer until it gets trained, but after that it's not too bad. I'm keeping it.
 
2012-10-10 05:10:28 PM

themasterdebater: dittybopper: Step 1: Don't use a mobile phone.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: They don't profit.

We should stop using electricity too!


Your Anal Intruder power bills are killing you, huh?
 
2012-10-10 05:21:20 PM
What if you exclusively use your phone for porn?
 
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