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(ABC)   Cool: Apple Computer 1, serial Number 22, goes up for auction starting at $80,000. Fark: No one bids on it. Come on people, this is vintage tech   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 86
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2012-10-10 04:47:21 PM  
Yes, but does it play Flash?
 
2012-10-10 04:50:18 PM  

T.rex: Yes, but does it play Flash?


plug it into a 230v power source, and then... probably.
 
2012-10-10 04:55:55 PM  

cman: If our economy wasnt in the shiatter. I think you would find a lot of people fighting over it


Hmmm, One of the first Apple computers, or Starbucks?

Screw it. Off to Starbucks.
 
2012-10-10 05:02:20 PM  
Forget it, the Samsung I had a larger screen.
 
2012-10-10 05:30:51 PM  
Meh, I've got three in my garage, hell one might even work. I should check the serial numbers.
 
2012-10-10 05:33:18 PM  

GoldSpider: Can I sell my old Commodore 128 to these nitwits?


If you have a 1581 drive you're willing to part for a reasonable price, I'll take it.
 
2012-10-10 05:48:11 PM  

Donnchadha: Well, for only $5 more you could buy a brand new iMac


Ha!

But seriously, everyone who wants one probably still has one.
 
2012-10-10 06:04:27 PM  

downstairs: jjwars1: According to the wiki on Apple Computer 1, Steve Jobs hand made each model. He sold them for $666.66.

Now, can we have another thread about how Apple is evil?


I thought Woz built them, not Jobs.


Whoops. Yup, Woz. Good catch.
 
2012-10-10 06:09:34 PM  

xynix: I don't think Steve Jobs ever broke a sweat..


Steve Ballmer, on the other hand...
 
2012-10-10 06:18:42 PM  

jjwars1: downstairs: jjwars1: According to the wiki on Apple Computer 1, Steve Jobs hand made each model. He sold them for $666.66.

Now, can we have another thread about how Apple is evil?


I thought Woz built them, not Jobs.

Whoops. Yup, Woz. Good catch.



You're right about the price, which is hilarious.
 
2012-10-10 07:05:49 PM  

MBZ321: I love browsing ebay/craigslist and seeing morons trying to sell old 486 and Pentium II machines for hundreds of dollars. What are these people thinking?


Some companies refuse to upgrade. Proprietary software and all that.
 
2012-10-10 07:33:49 PM  
www.old-computers.com

I don't guess I get anything for my Laser 128. I think it was the only Apple clone to be in production, legally. Apple IIc clone.
 
2012-10-10 07:34:53 PM  

xynix: FirstNationalBastard: B-b-b-but... Steve Jobs may have sweated on this!

YOU NEED STEVE JOBS SWEAT!

I don't think Steve Jobs ever broke a sweat..


Not only did he sweat, but for a large portion of his life he had the delusional belief that due to his crazy diets he had no body odor and so he did not use deodorant or even bathe on a regular basis.
 
2012-10-10 07:36:54 PM  

Thrag: xynix: FirstNationalBastard: B-b-b-but... Steve Jobs may have sweated on this!

YOU NEED STEVE JOBS SWEAT!

I don't think Steve Jobs ever broke a sweat..

Not only did he sweat, but for a large portion of his life he had the delusional belief that due to his crazy diets he had no body odor and so he did not use deodorant or even bathe on a regular basis.


Well, bathtubs are rectangles with rounded corners, so he had a problem with that since he invented the shape.
 
2012-10-10 07:42:06 PM  
It's a collector's item with limited appeal to a very vertical crowd. The asking price is way too much, and so it didn't sell even among folks who'd be interested in a piece of computing history. It's nice, but it's a conversation piece, not a Degas.
 
2012-10-10 07:55:50 PM  

MBZ321: I love browsing ebay/craigslist and seeing morons trying to sell old 486 and Pentium II machines for hundreds of dollars. What are these people thinking?
Computer 1
Computer 2
etc...


It's always interesting to see the insane things that people will do. I collect old video game consoles and get a kick when I see someone listen something for an absurd price.

Generally it'll go like this

'I found this old Sega Saturn in my basement. It has the power cord and a controller that is missing a button. I don't had the AV cable so it is untested

Asking price is $175'
 
2012-10-10 08:00:05 PM  

FormlessOne: It's a collector's item with limited appeal to a very vertical crowd. The asking price is way too much, and so it didn't sell even among folks who'd be interested in a piece of computing history. It's nice, but it's a conversation piece, not a Degas.


"Normal" people have no farking idea who Degas was. You could have went with Michelangelo, though. That would have been a perfectly cromulent argument.
 
2012-10-10 08:14:38 PM  
Well if this was number 22 than it was among the first 50 ordered by the Byte Shop computer store. This machine was hand assembled by Steve Wozniak, Bill Fernandez, Daniel Kottke and Steve Jobs in Jobs' parents house.

I suppose it would be interesting to own one of these original 50 for sentimental value, as in the computer history picture it's quite a big deal, but if it's missing parts then not so much. Hobbyists today can make Apple I clones, quite cheaply from what I understand.

Found this interesting bit about the DRAM from a hobbyist site:

The Apple-1 was an ingenious design that was very unique for the day. Based on the MOS Technology 6502, it was probably the first hobby computer to ever be designed by a real electronics engineer.

The Apple-1 used dynamic RAM, a far more economical memory than static RAM, but very hard to use. Dynamic RAM required "refreshing" every 2 ms. This was a heavy burden for an early microprocessor, requiring special timing and controllers to stop or pause the processor long enough to complete a refresh cycle 500 times a second. Almost no one could make it work the first time. Miss a beat, and you lose most or all your data. (I remember MITS had many problems with their attempt, and although the Digital Group version worked fine, a few modifications were required to the CPU and other boards to make it work.)

Woz made it work. The Apple-1 used the same clock signal to refresh the RAM, out clock the video and run the processor. It worked perfectly, and made history.


more here if you want to keep reading
 
2012-10-10 08:36:35 PM  

Saborlas: You know what's also vintage tech?

This year's iMac.


At work we are not liking mountain lion much.
 
2012-10-10 08:55:54 PM  

TheSwizz: PsyLord: Apparently this is the non-functional Apple 1 (missing some DRAM) that an Apple employee is trying to sell.

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'Listen, I would love to purchase this for $80k, but it's missing some DRAM. And in this non-functional state, with it missing it's original box, the best I can do is maybe $5.'


Can you split the difference? $39997.50?


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"Well... okay, that sounds like a good deal."
 
2012-10-10 10:04:35 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: FormlessOne: It's a collector's item with limited appeal to a very vertical crowd. The asking price is way too much, and so it didn't sell even among folks who'd be interested in a piece of computing history. It's nice, but it's a conversation piece, not a Degas.

"Normal" people have no farking idea who Degas was. You could have went with Michelangelo, though. That would have been a perfectly cromulent argument.


Seriously? What, did high schoolers recently go through the Monarch Notes version of art history? Holy crap.
 
2012-10-10 10:25:49 PM  

downstairs: jjwars1: downstairs: jjwars1: According to the wiki on Apple Computer 1, Steve Jobs hand made each model. He sold them for $666.66.

Now, can we have another thread about how Apple is evil?


I thought Woz built them, not Jobs.

Whoops. Yup, Woz. Good catch.


You're right about the price, which is hilarious.


Last Thursday, October 4th, Apple's stock price closed at 666. Coincidence?

/yeah, probably
//was really 666.80
 
2012-10-10 10:52:18 PM  
Come on, $80,000 for that? I mean, seriously; I could buy two, maybe even three current Macs for that much.
 
2012-10-10 11:41:44 PM  

FormlessOne: StoPPeRmobile: FormlessOne: It's a collector's item with limited appeal to a very vertical crowd. The asking price is way too much, and so it didn't sell even among folks who'd be interested in a piece of computing history. It's nice, but it's a conversation piece, not a Degas.

"Normal" people have no farking idea who Degas was. You could have went with Michelangelo, though. That would have been a perfectly cromulent argument.

Seriously? What, did high schoolers recently go through the Monarch Notes version of art history? Holy crap.


Arts are played way down. Why do you think so many people are clueless about history?
 
2012-10-11 12:30:54 AM  
I've only seen one episode of that Pawn show you guys are posting pics about, but you have nailed everything I took away from that one viewing.

yeah, $50 for a $195,000 P-51 mustang. That seems fair...
 
2012-10-11 12:36:49 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: I've only seen one episode of that Pawn show you guys are posting pics about, but you have nailed everything I took away from that one viewing.

yeah, $50 for a $195,000 P-51 mustang. That seems fair...


I have never seen the show but I get it.

farking weird.
 
2012-10-11 01:06:51 AM  

doglover: I'll give you exactly tree fiddy.


"I ain't givin' you no tree-fitty, you goddamn Loch Ness Monster! Get your own goddamn money!"
 
2012-10-11 03:53:10 AM  
www.history.com

Earlier today I bought an Apple I computer that is an iconic piece of 1970s Americana, for eight dollars. So I've taken it to my buddy Rick to see if he can get restore it to its original condition. I just hope there's some money to be made on this thing.

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It cost a little more than expected, because we had to re-jigger the thingy-whos and Kowboy dropped the CPU in a vat of acid, but I think that you're going to be able to sell this computer and make a profit on this. I'm right at around $43,000 on this restoration. Let's go inside and do some paperwork.

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Geez, Rick, it can't even run Crysis 2. You overpaid for this one. I would've gone $4 max.
 
2012-10-11 05:42:42 AM  
I built my first computer as well but it could only display 4 LED hexidecimal numbers.

It could multiply add and subtract...

anybody want to give me £40,000?

/now people build their first computer in minecraft...
 
2012-10-11 08:07:42 AM  

Dinjiin: If you have a 1581 drive you're willing to part for a reasonable price, I'll take it.


I think it's got a 1571. =(
 
2012-10-11 08:38:08 AM  

T.rex: Yes, but does it play Flash?


I'm sure someone could make it work.
 
2012-10-11 10:20:18 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: Arts are played way down.


Depends on where you are. My kids learned about the works of Klee, Mondrian, Lichtenstein, etc. when they were still in (public) grade school. Also painted imitations. It stuck too, since they see art and will normally compare it to the right influence. I'll show them a Degas tonight and see if it rings any bells. I must admit they didn't recognize Rothko, or non-cubist Picasso.
 
2012-10-11 11:09:56 AM  
iDoorstop
 
2012-10-11 11:56:39 AM  
I bet it's secretly just apple hyping the prices so they can make everyone think a mac will increase in value like those nascar plates.
 
2012-10-11 02:52:12 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: I bet it's secretly just apple hyping the prices so they can make everyone think a mac will increase in value like those nascar plates.


Yeah, my "Jesus dropping the flag at Talladega" plate is a collectors item...lady on Home Shopping Network told me so.
 
2012-10-11 03:42:50 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: BraveNewCheneyWorld: I bet it's secretly just apple hyping the prices so they can make everyone think a mac will increase in value like those nascar plates.

Yeah, my "Jesus dropping the flag at Talladega" plate is a collectors item...lady on Home Shopping Network told me so.


my "Calvin pissing on 33" not so much...
 
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