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(ABC)   Cool: Apple Computer 1, serial Number 22, goes up for auction starting at $80,000. Fark: No one bids on it. Come on people, this is vintage tech   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 86
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2012-10-10 10:37:36 AM  
vintage tech aka paper weight
 
2012-10-10 10:39:16 AM  
I'll give you exactly tree fiddy.
 
2012-10-10 10:44:00 AM  
It doesn't have rounded rectangles.
 
2012-10-10 10:45:15 AM  
B-b-b-but... Steve Jobs may have sweated on this!

YOU NEED STEVE JOBS SWEAT!
 
2012-10-10 10:47:51 AM  
It's not compatible with my iPhone.
 
2012-10-10 10:52:53 AM  
Come on, you can totally use this with your iPhone! The OS is still the same!
 
2012-10-10 11:16:47 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: B-b-b-but... Steve Jobs may have sweated on this!

YOU NEED STEVE JOBS SWEAT!


I don't think Steve Jobs ever broke a sweat..
 
2012-10-10 11:30:14 AM  
If our economy wasnt in the shiatter. I think you would find a lot of people fighting over it
 
2012-10-10 11:59:06 AM  
#22 seems a bit high. I could see maybe a # in the top 5 or 10 possibly getting that high of a bid, and definitely serial Number 1 getting 10s of thousands, but, at some point, it isn't "the first" anymore.

#22 I'd think you'd be lucky to get 3k.
 
2012-10-10 12:00:53 PM  

dletter: #22 seems a bit high. I could see maybe a # in the top 5 or 10 possibly getting that high of a bid, and definitely serial Number 1 getting 10s of thousands, but, at some point, it isn't "the first" anymore.

#22 I'd think you'd be lucky to get 3k.


Caveat.... if it is known that #'s 1-21 have been destroyed, I would say that raises the value of serial #22 then.

If there are let's say 10 of that model still around with serial numbers lower than 22 though.... now this is just an old computer.
 
2012-10-10 12:02:28 PM  
And after reading the article more now... appears someone did bid $50k.... not exactly chump change... I'd have taken it.
 
2012-10-10 12:22:02 PM  
What's wrong with you? You never buy the first version of Apple anything. Wait until the second or third version before they have worked out all of the bugs.

It probably doesn't even have a retina display.
 
2012-10-10 12:22:27 PM  
Well, for only $5 more you could buy a brand new iMac
 
2012-10-10 12:34:02 PM  

dletter: #22 seems a bit high. I could see maybe a # in the top 5 or 10 possibly getting that high of a bid, and definitely serial Number 1 getting 10s of thousands, but, at some point, it isn't "the first" anymore.

#22 I'd think you'd be lucky to get 3k.



Pretty much this.  I'm not a collector of anything, but I do know that collectors are very picky.  #1 or #2 would be all they'd be willing to spend a lot of money on.  #22 is something neat to show your grandkids.
 
There are Picasso drawings that go for next to nothing.
 
2012-10-10 01:25:02 PM  

dletter: And after reading the article more now... appears someone did bid $50k.... not exactly chump change... I'd have taken it.


I was thinking the same. $50k for an old PC? I'd sell it.
 
2012-10-10 02:31:43 PM  
www.troll.me
 
2012-10-10 02:34:21 PM  

xynix: FirstNationalBastard: B-b-b-but... Steve Jobs may have sweated on this!

YOU NEED STEVE JOBS SWEAT!

I don't think Steve Jobs ever broke a sweat..


He was probably whipping the good Steve at the time, therefore could've sweated on it from all that whipping.
 
2012-10-10 02:38:46 PM  
The value of any Apple product halves every time a successor model comes out. That thing should be worth 5 bucks.
 
2012-10-10 02:44:21 PM  
Can I sell my old Commodore 128 to these nitwits?
 
2012-10-10 02:45:08 PM  
If I were Apple, I'd have bought it. Put it in a display case in the lobby or something. Reminder of the company's origins.
 
2012-10-10 02:46:21 PM  
Tech people don't care about it, and the modern hipster iFan doesn't care because it isn't pretty.

Apple should put it in their lobby or something.
 
2012-10-10 02:50:35 PM  
Why does it cost as much as a new one?
 
2012-10-10 02:53:21 PM  
$80k for a PC, and it can't even run Crysis 2? I'll pass.
 
2012-10-10 02:56:21 PM  

xynix: FirstNationalBastard: B-b-b-but... Steve Jobs may have sweated on this!

YOU NEED STEVE JOBS SWEAT!

I don't think Steve Jobs ever broke a sweat..


According to the wiki on Apple Computer 1, Steve Jobs hand made each model. He sold them for $666.66.

Now, can we have another thread about how Apple is evil?
 
2012-10-10 03:06:34 PM  
Well, apparently one of these sold just a few months ago for $374,500. There are fewer than 50 left in existence.

/still doesn't play Crysis 2, do not want
 
2012-10-10 03:06:48 PM  
Browsing antiques, I saw a Craigslisting today for a IIc, owner kept all the manuals, install floppies, cables etc. Even had 2 magazine covers FRAMED. All kept in a glass display case, included, all for only a thousand dollars. Priceless?
 
2012-10-10 03:07:32 PM  
 
2012-10-10 03:08:13 PM  

Honest Bender: If I were Apple, I'd have bought it. Put it in a display case in the lobby or something. Reminder of the company's origins.


they probably have #1 in the lobby already

and old tech is not going to be a big collectors item in the future. its not pretty enough.
 
2012-10-10 03:15:33 PM  
I love browsing ebay/craigslist and seeing morons trying to sell old 486 and Pentium II machines for hundreds of dollars. What are these people thinking?
Computer 1
Computer 2
etc...
 
2012-10-10 03:16:10 PM  
I hear they have been using this to run their maps application.
 
2012-10-10 03:19:11 PM  
They're selling it at list price? You would think they would mark it up a little, being vintage and all.
 
2012-10-10 03:25:34 PM  

jjwars1: According to the wiki on Apple Computer 1, Steve Jobs hand made each model. He sold them for $666.66.

Now, can we have another thread about how Apple is evil?



I thought Woz built them, not Jobs.
 
2012-10-10 03:30:37 PM  
Apparently this is the non-functional Apple 1 (missing some DRAM) that an Apple employee is trying to sell.

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'Listen, I would love to purchase this for $80k, but it's missing some DRAM. And in this non-functional state, with it missing it's original box, the best I can do is maybe $5.'
 
2012-10-10 03:33:51 PM  

PsyLord: Apparently this is the non-functional Apple 1 (missing some DRAM) that an Apple employee is trying to sell.

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'Listen, I would love to purchase this for $80k, but it's missing some DRAM. And in this non-functional state, with it missing it's original box, the best I can do is maybe $5.'



Can you split the difference? $39997.50?
 
2012-10-10 03:36:19 PM  

TheSwizz: PsyLord: Apparently this is the non-functional Apple 1 (missing some DRAM) that an Apple employee is trying to sell.

[profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x150] 
'Listen, I would love to purchase this for $80k, but it's missing some DRAM. And in this non-functional state, with it missing it's original box, the best I can do is maybe $5.'


Can you split the difference? $39997.50?


www.history.com
"No, now the offer is $4.50"
 
2012-10-10 03:42:36 PM  
Man, I just know my Starmax 2000 is going to pay for my diapers in a few years.
 
2012-10-10 03:50:20 PM  

GAT_00: Come on, you can totally use this with your iPhone! The OS is still the same!


Very true, neither of them can run Google Maps.
 
2012-10-10 03:50:29 PM  

zedster: TheSwizz: PsyLord: Apparently this is the non-functional Apple 1 (missing some DRAM) that an Apple employee is trying to sell.

[profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x150] 
'Listen, I would love to purchase this for $80k, but it's missing some DRAM. And in this non-functional state, with it missing it's original box, the best I can do is maybe $5.'


Can you split the difference? $39997.50?

[www.history.com image 475x240]
"No, now the offer is $4.50"


You forgot to call your buddy who's an expert on Apple 1 computers to come and appraise it for me.
 
2012-10-10 03:50:57 PM  
Are you really shocked that there were no bids, subby?

You sound gullible.
 
2012-10-10 03:55:06 PM  
You could put several of those in a modern FPGA and it'd still be worthless but for the fact that the FPGA could be reloaded with something else more useful.
 
2012-10-10 04:01:26 PM  

MBZ321: I love browsing ebay/craigslist and seeing morons trying to sell old 486 and Pentium II machines for hundreds of dollars. What are these people thinking?
Computer 1
Computer 2
etc...


They're selling to people who are using them as controllers for various devices. Lots of old scientific and industrial stuff out there runs on very old software, running on very old hardware. Highly reliable, single purpose, and very expensive to replace, and frequently the software won't ever run on anything but the exact hardware it expects to see. It's a lot cheaper to buy another old 486 and stick it in than to replace the entire device.

A HPLC I used to use had a HP-85 as a controller. Worst case of screen burnin I've ever seen- you literally couldn't tell when it was on since the main screen info was forever printed on the display. When I was using it it was a decade old, but the HPLC worked great and I know they didn't replace it for several years after I left.
 
2012-10-10 04:02:35 PM  
Whoops, forgot the picture- HP-85. Started production in 1979

www.hpmuseum.net
 
2012-10-10 04:10:33 PM  
I know people who collect old computers and electronic gadgets, and put them on display cases in their homes.

I don't get. It looks like junk to me.
 
2012-10-10 04:11:03 PM  
You know what's also vintage tech?

This year's iMac.
 
2012-10-10 04:14:05 PM  

GoldSpider: Can I sell my old Commodore 128 to these nitwits?


shiat, I recently threw a couple of them away that were in my garage for 15 years.
 
2012-10-10 04:14:42 PM  
You don't price anything at $80,000. You price it at $79,995. Then it will sell. You have to make the buy think he/she is getting a deal.
 
2012-10-10 04:17:30 PM  

MBZ321: I love browsing ebay/craigslist and seeing morons trying to sell old 486 and Pentium II machines for hundreds of dollars. What are these people thinking?
Computer 1
Computer 2
etc...


the only conceivable reason I can come up personally with for ever buying something old like that at any price is the off chance that there may be a rare and old chip some where in there that would make the purchase worth while.
otherwise, there is absolutely nothing worth while about either of those listed computers. well, the first one, the non working one does have some limited collector interest, mostly because it's line was more of a commercial flop ( limited numbers on the streets). there may also be industrial and commercial interest in having it for spare parts to keep legacy systems running. and as it becomes harder and harder to find spare parts to keep things running, the price goes up.
that IBM was sold mostly to businesses so it may have been part of a front end for an early PLC controlled piece of industrial equipment. so some factory out there, instead of spending THOUSANDS of dollars on a complete controls systems upgrade is going to go the cheaper route of just keeping the old thing going.

In that regard, $500 is a helluva lot cheaper than the alternative, and the alternative is what I used to do before becoming a brewer. And I can assure you that a completes automatons systems upgrade costs hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions and required quite a bit of down time for the equipment being upgraded. you would try to keep the down time to around two weeks, but things always happen.


The apple computer in the article? It's paperweight.
 
2012-10-10 04:20:37 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: MBZ321: I love browsing ebay/craigslist and seeing morons trying to sell old 486 and Pentium II machines for hundreds of dollars. What are these people thinking?
Computer 1
Computer 2
etc...

They're selling to people who are using them as controllers for various devices. Lots of old scientific and industrial stuff out there runs on very old software, running on very old hardware. ..........


:shakes tiny internet fist:
 
2012-10-10 04:24:00 PM  

Pick: You don't price anything at $80,000. You price it at $79,995. Then it will sell. You have to make the buy think he/she is getting a deal.


666 is the number of the Beast. $665.99 is the MSRP of the Beast.
 
2012-10-10 04:39:18 PM  
Come on people, this is vintage tech


Come on subby, put up or shut up. If I had 80k I wouldn't be spending it on some POS I can't use.
 
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