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stpauler		2012-10-10 11:10:01 AM

4 votes:

My SO is Catholic. We received a letter in the mail a couple days ago from Archbishop Nienstedt.

It opens:
Peace be with you. We write with the urgent request that you join us on November 6 in voting "Yes" to pass the Minnesota Marriage Protection Amendment.

And goes on to twist the truth:
The marriage amendment is an affirmation of, and our chance to say "yes" to, the beautiful gift of marriage that God has given all of us; it is not against anyone.

On top of that, the archbishop has paid $650,000 to push this through.

So, five words for them:

fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

markfara		2012-10-10 12:18:14 PM

3 votes:

The old missals had English translations of the Latin, anyway.

puppetmaster745		2012-10-10 01:09:25 PM

2 votes:

markfara: The old missals had English translations of the Latin, anyway.

Which, if I remember correctly, is much closer to the English version of the mass currently used. I don't know what they were thinking with the previous translation. The idea of the Latin mass was that the mass would be the same wherever you went (except the homily). If you cared enough to take your English missal with you, you could attend mass anywhere in the world and it would be the same. Now, you'd just be lost because the mass is in the vernacular.

snocone		2012-10-10 12:35:06 PM

2 votes:

"Real" Catholics learn Latin.

Others? Pretenders.
/mebe is your problem

rvesco		2012-10-10 12:05:05 PM

2 votes:

Amabam eam melius Latine

dabbletech		2012-10-10 04:03:45 PM

1 votes:

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 641x373]

Not exactly.

"The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent)." Study conducted by Harvard University. Link

Crewmannumber6		2012-10-10 01:35:32 PM

1 votes:

KatjaMouse: So what you're saying is that the Quakers got it right. They'd probably have a higher membership turnout if they let their congregants listen to music.

Well they don't proselytize, so there's that

KatjaMouse		2012-10-10 01:17:49 PM

1 votes:

snocone: Millennium: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm not getting the Quaker reference. Care to explain a bit? :)

What the Quakers call "Meetings" generally don't have speakers. They aren't completely silent -anyone who is moved to speak may do so- but that means anyone, on any subject: there aren't sermons in the way we typically think of them. If no one speaks, then the whole Meeting would pass in silence, but as I understand things that doesn't happen very often.

/not a Quaker myself, but I did go to a Quaker school for a year, and they did have Meetings

Do you have to speak in tongues?
That is quite popular.

No. In the common language. And usually it would be on some topic concerning the congregation or a spiritual concern. The idea is to have this communal time of meditation. They're also feed-the-poor and help-the-oppressed type of Christians and peaceniks so naturally the DHS would tap their lines because they're considered an extremist anti-war organization.

/Went through a brief Quaker exploration myself when trying to figure this God stuff out

pkellmey		2012-10-10 12:58:47 PM

1 votes:

Obviously, subby shows by the headline that they did not get a good education in a Catholic grade school.

Bruxellensis		2012-10-10 12:42:49 PM

1 votes:

give me doughnuts: Bruxellensis: stpauler: fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

If you're young enough, it farks YOU.

No, no. It's: In Catholic Vatican, church farks you!.

Russian Orthodox?

Grand_Moff_Joseph		2012-10-10 12:40:44 PM

1 votes:

Well, it's well known that Darth/Pope Palpatine hated everything about Vatican II, and thought JP2 was a sellout in that regard. So, a push to revert to "old ways" would not surprise some out there.

Millennium		2012-10-10 12:38:40 PM

1 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm not getting the Quaker reference. Care to explain a bit? :)

What the Quakers call "Meetings" generally don't have speakers. They aren't completely silent -anyone who is moved to speak may do so- but that means anyone, on any subject: there aren't sermons in the way we typically think of them. If no one speaks, then the whole Meeting would pass in silence, but as I understand things that doesn't happen very often.

/not a Quaker myself, but I did go to a Quaker school for a year, and they did have Meetings

chopit		2012-10-10 12:25:09 PM

1 votes:

stpauler: fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

Indeed.

Dead for Tax Reasons		2012-10-10 12:14:07 PM

1 votes:

I still don't get what they're talkin about, english or not

OtherLittleGuy		2012-10-10 12:13:31 PM

1 votes:

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Nabb1		2012-10-10 11:59:14 AM

1 votes:

Ah, good, a FARK thread on Catholicism. We all know where this is headed...

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dv-ous		2012-10-10 11:58:34 AM

1 votes:

stpauler: My SO is Catholic. We received a letter in the mail a couple days ago from Archbishop Nienstedt.

It opens:
Peace be with you. We write with the urgent request that you join us on November 6 in voting "Yes" to pass the Minnesota Marriage Protection Amendment.

And goes on to twist the truth:
The marriage amendment is an affirmation of, and our chance to say "yes" to, the beautiful gift of marriage that God has given all of us; it is not against anyone.

On top of that, the archbishop has paid $650,000 to push this through.

So, five words for them:

fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

Nah. Just one word.

"No."

Preferably with a checkmark next to it on a ballot.

Grand_Moff_Joseph		2012-10-10 11:50:10 AM

1 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: Somewhat. Last Decenber, they changed the wording to reflect language that is reminiscent of pre-Vatican II ("through my fault, through my fault, through my grievious fault" among others).

Every time they do that in mass, I'm reminded of Matthew 6:5, where Jesus reminds us not to call attention to ourselves when we pray, but rather to pray in silence, in our rooms. Chanting "it's all my fault" while beating your chest seems to go against that idea.

I also took note of this other change: "and on earth, peace to people of good will", instead of "peace to all people on earth". Wishing peace to "those of good will" naturally implies that there are some who are not deserving of said wish for peace. Last time I checked, Jesus made no such distinctions in his ministry.