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2012-10-10 11:03:57 AM
Somewhat. Last Decenber, they changed the wording to reflect language that is reminiscent of pre-Vatican II ("through my fault, through my fault, through my grievious fault" among others). I'm surprised they haven't added back The Last Gospel.

So many people were saying "And also with you" when it was "And with your spirit" that I was saying "mana mana".
 
2012-10-10 11:10:01 AM

My SO is Catholic. We received a letter in the mail a couple days ago from Archbishop Nienstedt.

It opens:
Peace be with you. We write with the urgent request that you join us on November 6 in voting "Yes" to pass the Minnesota Marriage Protection Amendment.

And goes on to twist the truth:
The marriage amendment is an affirmation of, and our chance to say "yes" to, the beautiful gift of marriage that God has given all of us; it is not against anyone.

On top of that, the archbishop has paid $650,000 to push this through.

So, five words for them:

fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
 
2012-10-10 11:17:17 AM

stpauler: My SO is Catholic. We received a letter in the mail a couple days ago from Archbishop Nienstedt.



Ours will go: "Yes for illegal immigrants; the gheys, not so much."
 
2012-10-10 11:46:17 AM

stpauler: So, five words for them:

fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH


There are four words!
 
2012-10-10 11:48:27 AM
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2012-10-10 11:50:10 AM

OtherLittleGuy: Somewhat. Last Decenber, they changed the wording to reflect language that is reminiscent of pre-Vatican II ("through my fault, through my fault, through my grievious fault" among others).


Every time they do that in mass, I'm reminded of Matthew 6:5, where Jesus reminds us not to call attention to ourselves when we pray, but rather to pray in silence, in our rooms. Chanting "it's all my fault" while beating your chest seems to go against that idea.

I also took note of this other change: "and on earth, peace to people of good will", instead of "peace to all people on earth". Wishing peace to "those of good will" naturally implies that there are some who are not deserving of said wish for peace. Last time I checked, Jesus made no such distinctions in his ministry.
 
2012-10-10 11:50:49 AM

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*shakes tiny fist*

damn you.... :D
 
2012-10-10 11:55:12 AM

dittybopper: stpauler: So, five words for them:

fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

There are four words!


t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-10 11:55:58 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Last time I checked, Jesus made no such distinctions in his ministry.


Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true. Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil. Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a profit. All of a sudden I found myself in love with the World, so there was only one thing I could do: Was ding-a-dang-dong my dang-a-long-ling-long.
 
2012-10-10 11:58:34 AM

stpauler: My SO is Catholic. We received a letter in the mail a couple days ago from Archbishop Nienstedt.

It opens:
Peace be with you. We write with the urgent request that you join us on November 6 in voting "Yes" to pass the Minnesota Marriage Protection Amendment.

And goes on to twist the truth:
The marriage amendment is an affirmation of, and our chance to say "yes" to, the beautiful gift of marriage that God has given all of us; it is not against anyone.

On top of that, the archbishop has paid $650,000 to push this through.

So, five words for them:

fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH


Nah. Just one word.

"No."

Preferably with a checkmark next to it on a ballot.
 
2012-10-10 11:59:14 AM
Ah, good, a FARK thread on Catholicism. We all know where this is headed...

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2012-10-10 12:01:58 PM

stpauler:

fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH


yeah, pretty much this.

I had to sit through a Catholic mass and baptism this past weekend. As someone who was raised Catholic (but ceased going many a year ago) I don't remember it being that preachy. Must have been my willful ignorance as a kid, but they nailed all the big talking points. Abortion, sanctity of marriage, chastity, divorce, etc.
 
2012-10-10 12:02:08 PM
I'm Catholic, more or less, and I still say the wrong thing out of force of habit. Granted I don't go to mass all that often, but when I do, those 12 years of Catholic schooling kick in.

Also, the church really needs to back off the whole gay marriage thing. If you're not out protesting and fighting against any of the other multitude of reasons the church doesn't allow people to marry, what's one more? And don't even pretend like you have the high ground on sexual morality.
 
2012-10-10 12:05:05 PM
 
2012-10-10 12:06:45 PM
Still waiting on the first anniversary of understanding Fark headline grammar though. Jesus.
 
2012-10-10 12:08:43 PM
Vah! Denuone latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur.


/ at one time the land of gaul was divided into 3 parts....
 
2012-10-10 12:13:31 PM
Unavailable for comment:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-10 12:14:07 PM
I still don't get what they're talkin about, english or not
 
2012-10-10 12:16:59 PM
I miss saying the Apostle's Creed. Now we say the Nicene Creed. Still throws me off a bit.
 
2012-10-10 12:17:37 PM
So get down upon your knees
Fiddle with your rosaries
Bow your head with great respect and
Genuflect, genuflect, genuflect
 
2012-10-10 12:18:14 PM
The old missals had English translations of the Latin, anyway.
 
2012-10-10 12:20:24 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Every time they do that in mass, I'm reminded of Matthew 6:5, where Jesus reminds us not to call attention to ourselves when we pray, but rather to pray in silence, in our rooms. Chanting "it's all my fault" while beating your chest seems to go against that idea.

I also took note of this other change: "and on earth, peace to people of good will", instead of "peace to all people on earth". Wishing peace to "those of good will" naturally implies that there are some who are not deserving of said wish for peace. Last time I checked, Jesus made no such distinctions in his ministry.


So what you're saying is that the Quakers got it right. They'd probably have a higher membership turnout if they let their congregants listen to music.
 
2012-10-10 12:22:24 PM
What part of "I'm going to nail your underage son on the alter" do they not get?
 
2012-10-10 12:25:02 PM

KatjaMouse: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Every time they do that in mass, I'm reminded of Matthew 6:5, where Jesus reminds us not to call attention to ourselves when we pray, but rather to pray in silence, in our rooms. Chanting "it's all my fault" while beating your chest seems to go against that idea.

I also took note of this other change: "and on earth, peace to people of good will", instead of "peace to all people on earth". Wishing peace to "those of good will" naturally implies that there are some who are not deserving of said wish for peace. Last time I checked, Jesus made no such distinctions in his ministry.

So what you're saying is that the Quakers got it right. They'd probably have a higher membership turnout if they let their congregants listen to music.


I'm not getting the Quaker reference. Care to explain a bit? :)
 
2012-10-10 12:25:09 PM

stpauler: fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH


Indeed.
 
2012-10-10 12:25:14 PM

stpauler: fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH


If you're young enough, it farks YOU.
 
2012-10-10 12:25:46 PM
Too bad they're still pushing that whole "God is actually a real entity that totally exists, and stuff" line of utter bull$#!+.
 
2012-10-10 12:28:39 PM
I won't go back to church until "Let It Be" is in the hymnal. And there has to be ribs, too. Mmm... ribs.
 
2012-10-10 12:34:14 PM
Yup, in English, the way Jesus intended.
 
2012-10-10 12:35:06 PM
"Real" Catholics learn Latin.

Others? Pretenders. 
/mebe is your problem
 
2012-10-10 12:38:40 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm not getting the Quaker reference. Care to explain a bit? :)


What the Quakers call "Meetings" generally don't have speakers. They aren't completely silent -anyone who is moved to speak may do so- but that means anyone, on any subject: there aren't sermons in the way we typically think of them. If no one speaks, then the whole Meeting would pass in silence, but as I understand things that doesn't happen very often.

/not a Quaker myself, but I did go to a Quaker school for a year, and they did have Meetings
 
2012-10-10 12:40:44 PM
Well, it's well known that Darth/Pope Palpatine hated everything about Vatican II, and thought JP2 was a sellout in that regard. So, a push to revert to "old ways" would not surprise some out there.
 
2012-10-10 12:40:48 PM

Bruxellensis: stpauler: fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

If you're young enough, it farks YOU.


No, no. It's: In Catholic Vatican, church farks you!.
 
2012-10-10 12:42:49 PM

give me doughnuts: Bruxellensis: stpauler: fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

If you're young enough, it farks YOU.

No, no. It's: In Catholic Vatican, church farks you!.


Russian Orthodox?
 
2012-10-10 12:46:59 PM

dittybopper: stpauler: So, five words for them:

fark THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

There are four words!


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2012-10-10 12:47:18 PM

Millennium: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm not getting the Quaker reference. Care to explain a bit? :)

What the Quakers call "Meetings" generally don't have speakers. They aren't completely silent -anyone who is moved to speak may do so- but that means anyone, on any subject: there aren't sermons in the way we typically think of them. If no one speaks, then the whole Meeting would pass in silence, but as I understand things that doesn't happen very often.

/not a Quaker myself, but I did go to a Quaker school for a year, and they did have Meetings


Do you have to speak in tongues?
That is quite popular.
 
2012-10-10 12:47:19 PM
HERETICS! You are doing it WRONG!
 
2012-10-10 12:50:26 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Every time they do that in mass, I'm reminded of Matthew 6:5, where Jesus reminds us not to call attention to ourselves when we pray, but rather to pray in silence, in our rooms. Chanting "it's all my fault" while beating your chest seems to go against that idea.


Yep, ritualized prayers - another item on my long list of Catholic practices that completely oppose Biblical doctrine.

To be fair, though, this one isn't limited to Catholics & Protestants. Funny story - I attended a Baptist service a while back in which the preacher was teaching about prayer, using the passage on the Model Prayer ("Our Father, who art in Heaven, ... " often mistakenly called the Lord's Prayer, but that's a lesson for another thread). During the sermon, he specifically mentioned that passage about praying with vain repetitions. So, when it was time for the offering, the guy who was saying the prayer started out with "I think it would be appropriate today if you all join me in reciting the Lord's Prayer..."

\ComicallyMissingThePoint
 
2012-10-10 12:50:33 PM
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I bet you are one of those lazy Catholics who only go to church on Sundays.
 
2012-10-10 12:58:47 PM
Obviously, subby shows by the headline that they did not get a good education in a Catholic grade school.
 
2012-10-10 01:09:25 PM

markfara: The old missals had English translations of the Latin, anyway.


Which, if I remember correctly, is much closer to the English version of the mass currently used. I don't know what they were thinking with the previous translation. The idea of the Latin mass was that the mass would be the same wherever you went (except the homily). If you cared enough to take your English missal with you, you could attend mass anywhere in the world and it would be the same. Now, you'd just be lost because the mass is in the vernacular.
 
2012-10-10 01:17:49 PM

snocone: Millennium: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm not getting the Quaker reference. Care to explain a bit? :)

What the Quakers call "Meetings" generally don't have speakers. They aren't completely silent -anyone who is moved to speak may do so- but that means anyone, on any subject: there aren't sermons in the way we typically think of them. If no one speaks, then the whole Meeting would pass in silence, but as I understand things that doesn't happen very often.

/not a Quaker myself, but I did go to a Quaker school for a year, and they did have Meetings

Do you have to speak in tongues?
That is quite popular.


No. In the common language. And usually it would be on some topic concerning the congregation or a spiritual concern. The idea is to have this communal time of meditation. They're also feed-the-poor and help-the-oppressed type of Christians and peaceniks so naturally the DHS would tap their lines because they're considered an extremist anti-war organization.

/Went through a brief Quaker exploration myself when trying to figure this God stuff out
 
2012-10-10 01:19:22 PM
I set foot in a catholic church for the first time in a couple years last weekend for a wedding. Even as sosmeone who spent most of my childhood in catholic schools, it just seemed like the church is going off the deep end. The lobby was filled with literature about the "threat to religious freedom" and the birth control issue and "defending marriage". Admittedly this wasn't the church my family went to as a kid, but social politics were pretty much absent.

Even my catholic high school has changed in the ten years since I went there. I've talked to teachers there who've said the diocese is becoming very top-down in running the place, leading to a lot of conflict. When I went there the place was pretty much an academically rigorous school that happened to be catholic by affiliation. It was basically known for being the only good school in Flint, MI. Now the sports teams aren't allowed to have practices or meets on Sundays, are required to have crosses displayed on every team's jersey, and weekly mass is mandatory. They also fired all the religion teachers unless they paid to get a masters in theology. Most just quit instead.
 
2012-10-10 01:24:30 PM
Subby, you forgot
www.johnrook.com
 
2012-10-10 01:25:11 PM
I will perform the opening prayer in the New Latin.
Oh Ordlay, ivethgay usway ouryay essingsblay. Amen-ay!
 
2012-10-10 01:35:32 PM

KatjaMouse: So what you're saying is that the Quakers got it right. They'd probably have a higher membership turnout if they let their congregants listen to music.


Well they don't proselytize, so there's that
 
2012-10-10 01:37:40 PM

Longtime Lurker: I set foot in a catholic church for the first time in a couple years last weekend for a wedding. Even as sosmeone who spent most of my childhood in catholic schools, it just seemed like the church is going off the deep end. The lobby was filled with literature about the "threat to religious freedom" and the birth control issue and "defending marriage". Admittedly this wasn't the church my family went to as a kid, but social politics were pretty much absent.



Wow, that really sucks.  The Catholic Church use to be known for specifically not being all that political.  Their whole "all inclusive" part wasn't just a feel-good thing, it was a strategy to get as many parishoners as possible.  More parishoners = more money.
 
2012-10-10 01:48:26 PM

downstairs: The Catholic Church use to be known for specifically not being all that political.


When exactly was that? Not when Constatine 'converted' to christianity just in time to field a massive army for a decisive battle. Not during the dark ages when non priests were not allowed to have a bible or know how to read it if they did. Not the Spanish Inquisition (yes I know what I've just done). Not when married priests were eliminated because the church wanted ancestral lands to pass to them and not through families. The catholic church has been one the world's most influential political powers since its inception, which is pretty much why it is so thoroughly corrupt.
 
2012-10-10 01:55:14 PM

Millennium: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm not getting the Quaker reference. Care to explain a bit? :)

What the Quakers call "Meetings" generally don't have speakers. They aren't completely silent -anyone who is moved to speak may do so- but that means anyone, on any subject: there aren't sermons in the way we typically think of them. If no one speaks, then the whole Meeting would pass in silence, but as I understand things that doesn't happen very often.

/not a Quaker myself, but I did go to a Quaker school for a year, and they did have Meetings


That sounds like an AA meeting...
 
2012-10-10 02:04:04 PM

Crewmannumber6: downstairs: The Catholic Church use to be known for specifically not being all that political.

When exactly was that? Not when Constatine 'converted' to christianity just in time to field a massive army for a decisive battle. Not during the dark ages when non priests were not allowed to have a bible or know how to read it if they did. Not the Spanish Inquisition (yes I know what I've just done). Not when married priests were eliminated because the church wanted ancestral lands to pass to them and not through families. The catholic church has been one the world's most influential political powers since its inception, which is pretty much why it is so thoroughly corrupt.


Not saying they didn't practice politics behind the scenes... but when I was a kid, raised Catholic in the 1980s... we never heard about things like abortion, or any political speech during mass, in school, or in CCD.
 
I've mentioned this before here and a bunch of Farkers... most likely near my age... have backed me up on this.
 
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