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2012-10-10 10:48:35 AM
Science...you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
 
2012-10-10 11:10:15 AM
There are 23 Republican members on this committee. Sadly, something tells me these 5 are not outliers.
 
2012-10-10 11:11:23 AM
i212.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-10 11:22:47 AM
The vast majority of these people are just plain stupid.. They got elected by equally stupid people.

I'm not a scientist or anything but it's pretty clear why those guys won the award. Being able to observe changes at the quantum level will allow us to then manipulate things at the quantum level.. Once we're at the level to manipulate and then observe we'll have a viable quantum computing base. From then on it's huge.. Perhaps by 2025 we'll have our first QC processor which will be thousands of times faster than standard silicon processors. Thousands!
 
2012-10-10 11:29:26 AM
Hey, if Todd Akin wasn't on the Science Committee, how would we fund research into sperm-hunting ovarian anti-rape missiles?
 
2012-10-10 11:41:48 AM

Mentat: sperm-hunting ovarian anti-rape missiles


That's the name of my Indigo Girls cover band.
 
2012-10-10 12:02:32 PM

Mentat: Hey, if Todd Akin wasn't on the Science Committee, how would we fund research into sperm-hunting ovarian anti-rape missiles?


Yeah, it's pretty cool what vaginas can do these days...
 
2012-10-10 12:02:56 PM

Girl From The North Country: There are 23 Republican members on this committee. Sadly, something tells me these 5 are not outliers.


Hell, even the Dem committee members are probably stooges for the fossil fuel lobby.
 
2012-10-10 12:03:05 PM
Once again, this is why we can't have nice things.

Yadda yadda, government we deserve......
 
2012-10-10 12:03:22 PM
Stay in school, kids.
 
2012-10-10 12:05:28 PM
Oh, my Akin thread?

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-10 12:05:49 PM
USA USA USA
 
2012-10-10 12:05:52 PM
We don't need no fancy book learnin
 
2012-10-10 12:06:21 PM
I think the Science committee is where they put stick unpopular congressmen TBH.
Do you really want these people on Ways and Means or any committee with real power??
 
2012-10-10 12:06:59 PM
There's a fark of a lot more than 5, submitter. I'd say it's at least half of Congress. And we don't have to keep them from science, they're staying away willingly. Because science makes Jesus cry.
 
2012-10-10 12:07:04 PM

lucksi: USA USA USA


More like:
GOP GOP GOP
 
2012-10-10 12:07:52 PM
Kind of like having Rangel as the Ways and Means Chair when he is a tax cheat, right?

The vast majority of them are bums, both left and right.
 
2012-10-10 12:08:04 PM
Maddow has wondered for years how republicans can put such unqualified people on such a committee...
 
2012-10-10 12:08:19 PM
The Bible is the only science (or psychology) book that we need.
 
2012-10-10 12:08:27 PM

johnnyrocket: lucksi: USA USA USA

More like:
GOP GOP GOP


Even the newest add for the GOP Congress Drone goes on about how the Democrat votes with "them". It's all about pathetic team politics.
 
2012-10-10 12:10:15 PM

AmbassadorBooze:
Yadda yadda, government we deserve......


Yep... hopefully we'll hit bottom soon so we can finally get ourselves into a good recovery program.
 
2012-10-10 12:10:35 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Mentat: Hey, if Todd Akin wasn't on the Science Committee, how would we fund research into sperm-hunting ovarian anti-rape missiles?

Yeah, it's pretty cool what vaginas can do these days...


They asked for it.
 
2012-10-10 12:11:24 PM

WizardofToast: Stay in school, kids.


Mr. "Lies straight from of the pit of hell" is an M.D.

I hope he's just patronizing his idiot constituency. I really, really do.
 
2012-10-10 12:11:26 PM
Apparently Rachel Maddow follows Bad Astronomy :)

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/10/06/the-us-cong r ess-anti-science-committee/

MSNBC is just about as terribly biased as Fox, but it is depressing how these people made it on to the Science committee.
 
2012-10-10 12:12:07 PM
It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

But her job only requires that she be able to read.
 
2012-10-10 12:12:28 PM
FTFA:

Maddow's producers played a clip of Rep. Paul Broun telling supporters that evolution and the big bang theory "are lies straight from the pit of hell."


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-10 12:13:01 PM
Dinosaur farts ? Something tells me there is not a lot of critical thinking going on in this committee
 
2012-10-10 12:13:19 PM
Unfortunately for America, even if our leaders don't believe in science, there are plenty of other countries out there that do, and they will clean our clocks in the 21st century if we do not get rid of these idiots.
 
2012-10-10 12:14:12 PM

AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

But her job only requires that she be able to read.


You sound concerned that both sides are bad.

Of course, I can't find any Oxford degrees amongst the Republicans listed, so I'll take your word for it.
 
2012-10-10 12:14:49 PM
Other things people with political science and law degrees suck at:

Establishing and maintaining a budget.
Healthcare
Foreign relations
Prioritizing
 
2012-10-10 12:14:54 PM
FTFA:
Rachel Maddow ripped Republican members of the House Science Committee on her Tuesday MSNBC show, contrasting their science-related comments to the scientists who won the Nobel Peace Prize.

They won the Nobel Prize in Physics, not the Nobel Peace Prize, dumbass article writer. 

/Didn't watch the video, so I don't know if Rachel Maddow made the same mistake
 
2012-10-10 12:15:00 PM

JAYoung: Unfortunately for America, even if our leaders don't believe in science, there are plenty of other countries out there that do, and they will clean our clocks in the 21st century if we do not get rid of these idiots.


Jesus will restore our nation to greatness once we get rid of gay marriage.
 
2012-10-10 12:15:11 PM
Against people without knowledge on the Science, Space, & Tech committee, but I'm sure the congressmen and senators who wrote the The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are all experts in following professions that all interact in the national economy:

Medical Professionals
Pharma
Health Insurance
Medical Equipment Manuf
Electronic Medical Record Systems Technology
Macro/Micro Economics


I'm sure that broad, sweeping law was perfectly sculpted to make sure all of these industry groups and more interact without problem
 
2012-10-10 12:15:41 PM
From TFA: ...the scientists who won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Oh jeez, even by HuffnPuff standards this is pretty darn tardtastic.
 
2012-10-10 12:16:02 PM

xynix: The vast majority of these people are just plain stupid.. They got elected by equally stupid people.

I'm not a scientist or anything but it's pretty clear why those guys won the award. Being able to observe changes at the quantum level will allow us to then manipulate things at the quantum level.. Once we're at the level to manipulate and then observe we'll have a viable quantum computing base. From then on it's huge.. Perhaps by 2025 we'll have our first QC processor which will be thousands of times faster than standard silicon processors. Thousands!


But it still won't run Crysis with a decent frame rate.
 
2012-10-10 12:16:35 PM
p.s. That's one ugly chick
 
2012-10-10 12:17:23 PM
Can we require an AP Exam grade of at least a 4 in Chemistry, Physics, Biology, and Calculus if any of these morons want to be on the Science committee?

This "my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence" BS is getting really tired.
 
2012-10-10 12:18:01 PM

Byno: AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

But her job only requires that she be able to read.

You sound concerned that both sides are bad.

Of course, I can't find any Oxford degrees amongst the Republicans listed, so I'll take your word for it.


I know a guy who graduated from Oxford business .... he wasn't that sharp, either.
 
2012-10-10 12:18:27 PM

DonQuixote314159: FTFA:
Rachel Maddow ripped Republican members of the House Science Committee on her Tuesday MSNBC show, contrasting their science-related comments to the scientists who won the Nobel Peace Prize.

They won the Nobel Prize in Physics, not the Nobel Peace Prize, dumbass article writer. 

/Didn't watch the video, so I don't know if Rachel Maddow made the same mistake


She did not. I watched it last night, I am pretty sure she said Physics.

F*cking HuffPo, you're about 35 Heinekens away from being Daily Kos. Clean it up.
 
2012-10-10 12:18:28 PM

MugzyBrown: I'm sure the congressmen and senators who wrote the The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are all experts in following professions


Bet they all accept germs, money and electricity as real things.
 
2012-10-10 12:20:00 PM

MugzyBrown: Against people without knowledge on the Science, Space, & Tech committee, but I'm sure the congressmen and senators who wrote the The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are all experts in following professions that all interact in the national economy:

Medical Professionals
Pharma
Health Insurance
Medical Equipment Manuf
Electronic Medical Record Systems Technology
Macro/Micro Economics


I'm sure that broad, sweeping law was perfectly sculpted to make sure all of these industry groups and more interact without problem


No, but I am sure most of them are experts in 1 or more of those things. But your "concern" is duly noted.
 
2012-10-10 12:20:12 PM

mainstreet62: Can we require an AP Exam grade of at least a 4 in Chemistry, Physics, Biology, and Calculus if any of these morons want to be on the Science committee?


Whoa, settle down there. I think a good first step would be passing 8th grade level math and science tests.

Even that might disqualify them all
 
2012-10-10 12:20:21 PM
As a quantum optics hobbyist, I applaud David and Serge's work. Their calculations match my own and are soft of a justification for every one of us out that that said you could in fact measure the immeasureable. I know these guys were working hard - too hard to answer letters apparently - and they deserve the accolades.

As a stay at home father of two junior college students, who are currently taking introductory physics and astronomy classes, I have to say that I'm worried about the future of our country's education programs. Paul Broun and Todd Akin are dragging us right back into the dark ages with their faith based arguments and complete ignorance. They want us to return to the Middle Ages when the church was all powerful and pedagogical development was at a standstill. Can you imagine how happy they'd be if we didn't have science programs, but instead spent vast sums on religious indoctrination and faith initiatives?

I'll have you know that at this very moment I am broadcasting signals into outer space - signals that contain precise instructions for an invading alien force -- where to hit, how to hit, and when to hit. And they are receiving these messages too. Just google random numbers, map each number to its corresponding word in the American College Dictionary, and then feed those words into Google translate. You'll see exactly what I've seen - the aliens constructed google and are using it as a communications channel to correspond with us in the know.

Bottom line - we need smart people making decisions. Smart people like me. I should do something about this.
 
2012-10-10 12:21:16 PM
I was amazed that physicists won the Nobel peace prize. You would think they would be too busy with their scientific research to work on anything else.
 
2012-10-10 12:21:42 PM
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This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-10-10 12:22:28 PM

LittleKidLover: FTFA:

Maddow's producers played a clip of Rep. Paul Broun telling supporters that evolution and the big bang theory "are lies straight from the pit of hell."


I agree - that show sucks.
 
2012-10-10 12:22:31 PM
Where's a government appointed health insurance panel when you need one?
 
2012-10-10 12:22:47 PM

MugzyBrown: [deeeeerp]


You do know that Obamacare was written by Republicans, right? Not Democrats?

That said - come back and try again after a Democrat goes on record as believing that "There's no such thing as cancer, only the four humours, therefore we must destroy all chemotherapy wards and cure them with leeches." It'll probably be a while, but I'm sure that nobody here will mind the wait.
 
2012-10-10 12:23:23 PM
We need some sort of reservation where people who don't believe in science can go to live a peaceful existence with very little technology.
 
2012-10-10 12:23:37 PM
We have this nonsense in Canada too.

The Canadian "Minister of Science and Technology", appointed by Harper, is a goddamned chiropractor!

He is a religious nutcase to boot.

Link

We should all be ashamed of pandering, anti-science governments.
 
2012-10-10 12:23:39 PM
ugh... i can't even watch TV news entertainment. this is the left version of bill o'reilly. Please just report the story and move on, there's no need to inject sarcasm. How about doing some reporting and find out how these guys are selected and how this selection process has held up scientific advancement over the years?
 
2012-10-10 12:23:42 PM
If there is no God, then Ron Broun swearing an oath to uphold the Constitution would be non-binding.

Checkmate, Atheists.
 
2012-10-10 12:26:14 PM
According to Maddow, Rohrabacher once suggested that temperature fluctuations on earth million's of years ago were due to dinosaurs flatulence.

Well "due to" is wrong, but it is not unreasonable to suggest that it was a contribution, maybe even a significant one
 
2012-10-10 12:26:17 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Girl From The North Country: There are 23 Republican members on this committee. Sadly, something tells me these 5 are not outliers.

Hell, even the Dem committee members are probably stooges for the fossil fuel lobby.


Correct you are. We are farked.
 
2012-10-10 12:26:24 PM

Funbags: If there is no God, then Ron Broun swearing an oath to uphold the Constitution would be non-binding.

Checkmate, Atheists.


Are you unfamiliar with the concept of "perjury"?
 
2012-10-10 12:26:25 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: MugzyBrown: [deeeeerp]

You do know that Obamacare was written by Republicans, right? Not Democrats?

That said - come back and try again after a Democrat goes on record as believing that "There's no such thing as cancer, only the four humours, therefore we must destroy all chemotherapy wards and cure them with leeches." It'll probably be a while, but I'm sure that nobody here will mind the wait.


I will wait. But let me go get a lighter first for the inevitable strawman yet to come from MB.
 
2012-10-10 12:27:08 PM
So I told that teachin' lady...
 
2012-10-10 12:27:33 PM
Any commitees purpose is best served when there is a rounded point of interest and views.
 
2012-10-10 12:27:59 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: Oh, my Akin thread?

[i.imgur.com image 375x500]


GODDAMMITSOMUCH WOULD YOU STOP THAT
 
2012-10-10 12:28:08 PM
And the chairman for the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology is 89 year old Ralph Hall. Hall is a former Texas judge who has now been in congress for 32 years. He was a democrat until the Bush administration came into power, then he switched parties, mostly because he is a long time friend of the Bush family. He was heavily involved with Jack Abramoff, indeed Abramoff made 15 calls to his office the day the CNMI scandal broke, but there were no consequences to him from this.

So the USA has a crooked dotard in charge of one of the most important committees for America's future. This will not end well.
 
2012-10-10 12:28:28 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: MugzyBrown: I'm sure the congressmen and senators who wrote the The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are all experts in following professions

Bet they all accept germs, money and electricity as real things.


Or they would have just gone down the prayer path for healthcare reform.
 
2012-10-10 12:29:06 PM
"Maddow replayed a clip of the two physicists who won the Nobel Peace Prize on Monday, admitting that grasping why the scientists won was difficult as the level of science is so advanced."

It was said before, but:

These guys won the Nobel Prize for Physics, not the Nobel Peace Prize.

You have to be incredibly smart to win the Nobel Prize for Physics.
To win the Peace Prize, you only have to make a PowerPoint presentation or not be GW Bush.
 
2012-10-10 12:29:51 PM

Dimensio: Funbags: If there is no God, then Ron Broun swearing an oath to uphold the Constitution would be non-binding.

Checkmate, Atheists.

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of "perjury"?


Lying = giving an account contrary to the truth
Perjury = giving an account contrary to the truth after swearing on a book of fairy tales that you wouldn't, so help you invisible person.
 
2012-10-10 12:29:55 PM

coeyagi: I will wait. But let me go get a lighter first for the inevitable strawman yet to come from MB.


No need, I always keep half a dozen on my person. Here, this one has a dinosaur on it and everything.
 
2012-10-10 12:30:03 PM
That dinosaur fart thing might not be completely out of left field. When I drive past construction sites that have dug down past the sand layer I always think it smells like pee.

Dinosaur pee.
 
2012-10-10 12:30:29 PM

spentmiles: As a quantum optics hobbyist, I applaud David and Serge's work. Their calculations match my own and are soft of a justification for every one of us out that that said you could in fact measure the immeasureable. I know these guys were working hard - too hard to answer letters apparently - and they deserve the accolades.

As a stay at home father of two junior college students, who are currently taking introductory physics and astronomy classes, I have to say that I'm worried about the future of our country's education programs. Paul Broun and Todd Akin are dragging us right back into the dark ages with their faith based arguments and complete ignorance. They want us to return to the Middle Ages when the church was all powerful and pedagogical development was at a standstill. Can you imagine how happy they'd be if we didn't have science programs, but instead spent vast sums on religious indoctrination and faith initiatives?

I'll have you know that at this very moment I am broadcasting signals into outer space - signals that contain precise instructions for an invading alien force -- where to hit, how to hit, and when to hit. And they are receiving these messages too. Just google random numbers, map each number to its corresponding word in the American College Dictionary, and then feed those words into Google translate. You'll see exactly what I've seen - the aliens constructed google and are using it as a communications channel to correspond with us in the know.

Bottom line - we need smart people making decisions. Smart people like me. I should do something about this.


How do you come up with this stuff? I envy your imagination.
 
2012-10-10 12:30:50 PM
Dana Rohrabacher may not belong on the committee for other reasons, but I wouldn't give her too much of a hassle over the dinosaur farts comment, considering that livestock farts are currently considered a contributing factor to global warming. I"m not saying that she's right, but the idea isn't as ridiculous as a lot of ideas that have come out of the Science, Space & Technology Committee members recently.

/Broun & Akin are still raging farktards though.
 
2012-10-10 12:31:05 PM

DownDaRiver: Any commitees purpose is best served when there is a rounded point of interest and views.


Ever hear of the false middle fallacy or argument to moderation

If 10 people say 2+2=4 and 10 people say 2+2=69, the answer does not lie somewhere between 4 and 69.

No amount of rounded points of interest will make these what these guys say science.
 
2012-10-10 12:31:36 PM

Headso: Maddow has wondered for years how republicans can put such unqualified people on such a committee...


A party that would put Michele Bachmann on the House Intelligence Committee is capable of anything.
 
2012-10-10 12:31:44 PM
Anyone remember this gem of a political ad? The moment that the world realized that it was real and not a Bill Maher bit was super depressing.
 
2012-10-10 12:31:45 PM

AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.


She's a freaking Rhodes Scholar, jeenyus. She graduated from Oxford with a doctorate in Political Science. Now she's hosting a TV show about Politics.

And you think she just "reads"?

Buffoon.
 
2012-10-10 12:31:49 PM

coeyagi: No, but I am sure most of them are experts in 1 or more of those things. But your "concern" is duly noted.


Please let me know which of the congressmen on the ways and means committee are experts in these fields? The chairman, Charles Rangel... let's see.... has been in politics since 1967 and before that was a soldier and a lawyer. Sounds like somebody to write a law that affects the whole country and a large chunk of the economy.

Fluorescent Testicle: You do know that Obamacare was written by Republicans, right? Not Democrats?


So?

There's no person or group of people in congress qualified to write a law of such a magnitute... that's why I wouldn't want any of them to attempt it.

What's your point?
 
2012-10-10 12:32:16 PM

tricycleracer: WizardofToast: Stay in school, kids.

Mr. "Lies straight from of the pit of hell" is an M.D.

I hope he's just patronizing his idiot constituency. I really, really do.


Either that or he has a very, very big malpractice insurance premium.
 
2012-10-10 12:32:50 PM
You know how Christians will often claim we are persecuting them and that we shouldn't attack them for their faith because it doesn't affect the rest of us?

"And that's the reason, as your congressman, I hold the Holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I'll continue to do that." --Paul Broun

This is why. Because yes, sometimes religious faith affects the rest of us.
 
2012-10-10 12:33:07 PM
It would be hilarious in a surreal sort of way if it wasn't so goddamn depressing as well...

What can be done about it? I don't know... All I can do is write my elected officials and never vote for another Republican as long as I live.
 
2012-10-10 12:33:15 PM
All these guys need to be cawkpunched regularly.
Really. they are functionally retarded.
They believe in some pretty "special" shiat.
And we don't let retards vote in this country.
So why do we let Republicans?
 
2012-10-10 12:33:56 PM

coeyagi: DonQuixote314159: FTFA:
Rachel Maddow ripped Republican members of the House Science Committee on her Tuesday MSNBC show, contrasting their science-related comments to the scientists who won the Nobel Peace Prize.

They won the Nobel Prize in Physics, not the Nobel Peace Prize, dumbass article writer. 

/Didn't watch the video, so I don't know if Rachel Maddow made the same mistake

She did not. I watched it last night, I am pretty sure she said Physics.

F*cking HuffPo, you're about 35 Heinekens away from being Daily Kos. Clean it up.


Also the use of " million's" with an apostrophe. Do they have an editorial opening over there at HuffPo, or what gives?
 
2012-10-10 12:34:02 PM
well, in their defense, I'm feeling a breakthrough from the magic of farting and the pits of hell right now.

/ farking sriracha cock sauce.
 
2012-10-10 12:36:04 PM
Now now, folks, let us not forget the Democrats who have brains of a mollusk.

Be careful, Guam might tip over.

Granted, this is only one buffoon as an example. I'm too lazy too look up exact names, however I recall reading somewhere that at least 30% of Democrats in congress deny evolution.
 
2012-10-10 12:36:54 PM

sleeper2995: Dinosaur farts ? Something tells me there is not a lot of critical thinking going on in this committee


To give Dana Rohrbacher a bit of slack, I think he used "dinosaur farts" as hyperbole and as a rhetorical device. The truth is, we do know a lot about the CO2 levels in prehistoric times. I think the high CO2 levels occurred way, way before dinosaur period, perhaps during the precambrian era. I'm not exactly sure.
 
2012-10-10 12:38:27 PM
The big problem is that committee seats aren't determined by credentials but rather are incentives that are offered based on interest. The people who are most tempted by a committee membership and most willing to jump through hoops to get it are the ones who sees the related field as problematic and in need of fixing.

It would be like if you had an opening on the House Budget Committee and your options are a guy who majored in finance who sees our system as generally functional (sort of a necessary evil) but could use some tweaking and an English major who thinks the way we do everything is terrible and we need to completely destroy the current tax and spending structures and replace it with their ideal system. The first guy might actually know more about what he's doing, but the second guy will crawl over broken glass and vote against their beliefs on every other issue for the party leadership if he gets that spot.
 
2012-10-10 12:39:13 PM
Everyone questions why they let these republicans dictate science policy but it's just a distraction keeping you from asking why politicians in general are the ones who dictate science policy.

When left to a politician, which of the scientists do you think will get a grant....the one who wants to grow a sweet stawberry or the one who wants to grow a tatesless strawberry with a long shelf life that ships well.


D or R they are all in the pockets of lobbyists.
 
2012-10-10 12:39:16 PM

pute kisses like a man: well, in their defense, I'm feeling a breakthrough from the magic of farting and the pits of hell right now.

/ farking sriracha cock sauce.


You will not say an unkind word about the sriracha sauce!!!
 
2012-10-10 12:40:05 PM
So when did Matthew Perry get a job reporting for MSNBC?
 
2012-10-10 12:40:53 PM

tricycleracer: WizardofToast: Stay in school, kids.

Mr. "Lies straight from of the pit of hell" is an M.D.

I hope he's just patronizing his idiot constituency. I really, really do.


Helpful note to his patients: get a new doctor before you catch a case of MRSA.
 
2012-10-10 12:40:58 PM

kregh99: Dimensio: Funbags: If there is no God, then Ron Broun swearing an oath to uphold the Constitution would be non-binding.

Checkmate, Atheists.

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of "perjury"?

Lying = giving an account contrary to the truth
Perjury = giving an account contrary to the truth after swearing on a book of fairy tales that you wouldn't, so help you invisible person.


Yeah, but you can use other books besides the Bible - Muslims can swear on the Koran, atheists on, I dunno, the Constitution.

/wait, what happens if you swear on the Constitution to uphold the Constitution?
 
2012-10-10 12:41:23 PM
That committee is a parking lot for losers in Congress. It doesn't authorize legislation and it doesn't appropriate funds, so it's a dead-end backwater that nobody cares about. Don't let the fancy sounding name fool you.
 
2012-10-10 12:45:34 PM

Girl From The North Country: coeyagi: DonQuixote314159: FTFA:
Rachel Maddow ripped Republican members of the House Science Committee on her Tuesday MSNBC show, contrasting their science-related comments to the scientists who won the Nobel Peace Prize.

They won the Nobel Prize in Physics, not the Nobel Peace Prize, dumbass article writer. 

/Didn't watch the video, so I don't know if Rachel Maddow made the same mistake

She did not. I watched it last night, I am pretty sure she said Physics.

F*cking HuffPo, you're about 35 Heinekens away from being Daily Kos. Clean it up.

Also the use of " million's" with an apostrophe. Do they have an editorial opening over there at HuffPo, or what gives?


To be honest, HuffPo doesn't exactly have stellar science credentials.

They are a haven of anti-vaccine sentiment and other alternative medicine woo.
 
2012-10-10 12:47:07 PM

Anne.Uumellmahaye: That dinosaur fart thing might not be completely out of left field. When I drive past construction sites that have dug down past the sand layer I always think it smells like pee.

Dinosaur pee.


You know how dinosaur pee smells like?
 
2012-10-10 12:47:35 PM

AliceBToklasLives: kregh99: Dimensio: Funbags: If there is no God, then Ron Broun swearing an oath to uphold the Constitution would be non-binding.

Checkmate, Atheists.

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of "perjury"?

Lying = giving an account contrary to the truth
Perjury = giving an account contrary to the truth after swearing on a book of fairy tales that you wouldn't, so help you invisible person.

Yeah, but you can use other books besides the Bible - Muslims can swear on the Koran, atheists on, I dunno, the Constitution.

/wait, what happens if you swear on the Constitution to uphold the Constitution?


When I took the Uniformed Services Oath, I affirmed my duty to support and defend the Constitution. It's just a promise to do what I said I would do, just like people who require an invisible deity to be watching over them to insure that they do good.
 
2012-10-10 12:48:06 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Yeah, but you can use other books besides the Bible - Muslims can swear on the Koran, atheists on, I dunno, the Constitution.


I prefer the periodic table.
 
2012-10-10 12:48:22 PM

drworm: ugh... i can't even watch TV news entertainment. this is the left version of bill o'reilly. Please just report the story and move on, there's no need to inject sarcasm. How about doing some reporting and find out how these guys are selected and how this selection process has held up scientific advancement over the years?


Very this. I wanted to know what sorts of decisions that panel is facing, and what past panels have made.
 
2012-10-10 12:49:10 PM
anatolianshep.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-10 12:49:30 PM

tricycleracer: WizardofToast: Stay in school, kids.

Mr. "Lies straight from of the pit of hell" is an M.D.

I hope he's just patronizing his idiot constituency. I really, really do.


And was the dinosaur fart thing not a joke?

Why did she start talking about this anyway?
 
2012-10-10 12:50:22 PM
Democrat Rep. Hank Johnson worries loading too many people onto Guam could capsize the island. 

friggin Democraps...

thatsmycongress.com

Link
 
2012-10-10 12:52:06 PM
evolution and the big bang theory "are lies straight from the pit of hell."


What somebody spreading lies from the pit of hell may look like.

upload.wikimedia.org

Link
 
2012-10-10 12:53:27 PM

MugzyBrown: coeyagi: No, but I am sure most of them are experts in 1 or more of those things. But your "concern" is duly noted.

Please let me know which of the congressmen on the ways and means committee are experts in these fields? The chairman, Charles Rangel... let's see.... has been in politics since 1967 and before that was a soldier and a lawyer. Sounds like somebody to write a law that affects the whole country and a large chunk of the economy.

Fluorescent Testicle: You do know that Obamacare was written by Republicans, right? Not Democrats?

So?

There's no person or group of people in congress qualified to write a law of such a magnitute... that's why I wouldn't want any of them to attempt it.

What's your point?


The healthcare bill wasn't primarily written by politicians. The framework was developed by the conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation, and large chunks of the PPACA were written by lobbying groups representing many interests including both doctors and the health insurance industry until it met their standards to accept that the law addressed their concerns.

The involvement of lobbyists comes with its own problems, but this wasn't just a bunch of former lawyers writing an idealized bill on a field they had only a layman's experience with.
 
2012-10-10 12:53:42 PM

dericwater: Anne.Uumellmahaye: That dinosaur fart thing might not be completely out of left field. When I drive past construction sites that have dug down past the sand layer I always think it smells like pee.

Dinosaur pee.

You know how dinosaur pee smells like?


If it's anything like what came out of my old iguana after he ate zucchini with mangos I'm sure it's pretty rank.
 
2012-10-10 12:54:11 PM

coeyagi: F*cking HuffPo, you're about 35 Heinekens away from being Daily Kos. Clean it up.


...as liberal as DKos is, for some reason they seem far more journalistic than HuffPo. In fact, they seem far more journalistic than a majority of "journalism" sites out there. And this is a site with user contributed content.
 
2012-10-10 12:54:41 PM

MugzyBrown: coeyagi: No, but I am sure most of them are experts in 1 or more of those things. But your "concern" is duly noted.

Please let me know which of the congressmen on the ways and means committee are experts in these fields? The chairman, Charles Rangel... let's see.... has been in politics since 1967 and before that was a soldier and a lawyer. Sounds like somebody to write a law that affects the whole country and a large chunk of the economy.

Fluorescent Testicle: You do know that Obamacare was written by Republicans, right? Not Democrats?

So?

There's no person or group of people in congress qualified to write a law of such a magnitute... that's why I wouldn't want any of them to attempt it.

What's your point?


So when I use the word "most", you counter with "lemme show you 1 person who doesn't fit that categorization because I don't understand how the use of the adjective 'most' works".

You should go to Japanese Executive Retraining to get your ribbons of shame.

www.crawfordsworld.com
 
2012-10-10 12:55:38 PM
If there are students at some University in Iran reading they article they are probably saying, "Maybe we don't have it so bad afterall."
 
2012-10-10 12:55:44 PM

Giltric: Everyone questions why they let these republicans dictate science policy but it's just a distraction keeping you from asking why politicians in general are the ones who dictate science policy.

When left to a politician, which of the scientists do you think will get a grant....the one who wants to grow a sweet stawberry or the one who wants to grow a tatesless strawberry with a long shelf life that ships well.


D or R they are all in the pockets of lobbyists.


Hmm, I detect from your post that you seem to believe that both sides are bad...

Which side should I then vote for, kindly sirrah?
 
2012-10-10 12:55:57 PM
Wow, a lot of people seem surprised by this. Look Republicans are morons and farking retards, but hey they love PROSPERITY JESUS, well except for that Mormon fellow he worships a false idol, so lets elect them again.
 
2012-10-10 12:56:03 PM

Desquamation: AmbassadorBooze:
Yadda yadda, government we deserve......

Yep... hopefully we'll hit bottom soon so we can finally get ourselves into a good recovery program.


Yep... and you don't even know how funny your comment is. My roomate is employed by a top notch pilot recovery program. Science based, none of this higher power BS. They have a better success rate than any other program. But... the sucess rate is still at most 20 - 30%. Looks like we will have to hit bottom a few times.
 
2012-10-10 12:56:22 PM

IlGreven: coeyagi: F*cking HuffPo, you're about 35 Heinekens away from being Daily Kos. Clean it up.

...as liberal as DKos is, for some reason they seem far more journalistic than HuffPo. In fact, they seem far more journalistic than a majority of "journalism" sites out there. And this is a site with user contributed content.


I think the problem with Kos is that they have a few far left posters who go off the deep end and that hurts their credibility.
 
2012-10-10 12:57:14 PM

PhilGed: ...MSNBC is just about as terribly biased as Fox...


No. Not really.
 
2012-10-10 12:57:17 PM

traylor: evolution and the big bang theory "are lies straight from the pit of hell."


What somebody spreading lies from the pit of hell may look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 410x600]

Link


Heck, belgian religious schools are more scientifically literal than US secular schools.
 
2012-10-10 12:57:20 PM

pute kisses like a man:
/ farking sriracha cock sauce.


you put the sauce where?
 
2012-10-10 12:57:29 PM
Interesting.

Since when has competence on a given subject been a problem for liberals by the way?
 
2012-10-10 12:57:39 PM

Mentat: Hey, if Todd Akin wasn't on the Science Committee, how would we fund research into sperm-hunting ovarian anti-rape missiles?


So they were right; Republicans aren't fighting a War on Women, they're fighting a War IN Women.
 
2012-10-10 12:59:07 PM

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Giltric: Everyone questions why they let these republicans dictate science policy but it's just a distraction keeping you from asking why politicians in general are the ones who dictate science policy.

When left to a politician, which of the scientists do you think will get a grant....the one who wants to grow a sweet stawberry or the one who wants to grow a tatesless strawberry with a long shelf life that ships well.


D or R they are all in the pockets of lobbyists.

Hmm, I detect from your post that you seem to believe that both sides are bad...

Which side should I then vote for, kindly sirrah?


There are 2 other candidates on enough state ballots to win 270 electoral votes...
 
2012-10-10 12:59:30 PM

bobfark: I think the Science committee is where they stick unpopular congressmen TBH.
Do you really want these people on Ways and Means or any committee with real power??


Unfortunately this. People keep electing these wackjobs so they get stuck in a committee with little actual power in order to limit the damage they an do.
 
2012-10-10 12:59:50 PM

meat0918: Girl From The North Country: coeyagi: DonQuixote314159: FTFA:
Rachel Maddow ripped Republican members of the House Science Committee on her Tuesday MSNBC show, contrasting their science-related comments to the scientists who won the Nobel Peace Prize.

They won the Nobel Prize in Physics, not the Nobel Peace Prize, dumbass article writer. 

/Didn't watch the video, so I don't know if Rachel Maddow made the same mistake

She did not. I watched it last night, I am pretty sure she said Physics.

F*cking HuffPo, you're about 35 Heinekens away from being Daily Kos. Clean it up.

Also the use of " million's" with an apostrophe. Do they have an editorial opening over there at HuffPo, or what gives?

To be honest, HuffPo doesn't exactly have stellar science credentials.

They are a haven of anti-vaccine sentiment and other alternative medicine woo.


Which are still better than Floor Humping Guy.
 
2012-10-10 01:00:19 PM

AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Dr Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

But her job only requires that she be able to read the text she writes everyday.


Fixed that for you.

You want to disagree with her on her beliefs, on her slant, or how she interprets policy, that's fine.

Calling her dumb? That's you projecting.
 
2012-10-10 01:01:23 PM

ghare: PhilGed: ...MSNBC is just about as terribly biased as Fox...

No. Not really.


A) Fox claims it's unbiased and is completely biased.
B) MSNBC makes no such claim, though it's daily programming starts on the Right and moves Left.

So in a sense, they're all the same in that they are about complete opposites with the small caveat that MSNBC probably does have more overall hours of Left-leaning programming, but certainly less than the hours of Fox News' Right-leaning programming, which is to say 24 hours.
 
2012-10-10 01:02:20 PM

zepher: Kind of like having Rangel as the Ways and Means Chair when he is a tax cheat, right?

The vast majority of them are bums, both left and right.


No, tax cheating demonstrates knowledge and acceptance of the concepts through a willful deception. These people are dumbasses.
 
2012-10-10 01:02:45 PM

AliceBToklasLives: kregh99: Dimensio: Funbags: If there is no God, then Ron Broun swearing an oath to uphold the Constitution would be non-binding.

Checkmate, Atheists.

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of "perjury"?

Lying = giving an account contrary to the truth
Perjury = giving an account contrary to the truth after swearing on a book of fairy tales that you wouldn't, so help you invisible person.

Yeah, but you can use other books besides the Bible - Muslims can swear on the Koran, atheists on, I dunno, the Constitution.

/wait, what happens if you swear on the Constitution to uphold the Constitution?


Someone points out that your hand should be on the bottom instead of the top
 
2012-10-10 01:05:22 PM
SoCalChris: Dana Rohrabacher may not belong on the committee for other reasons, but I wouldn't give her too much of a hassle over the dinosaur farts comment, considering that livestock farts are currently considered a contributing factor to global warming. I"m not saying that she's right, but the idea isn't as ridiculous as a lot of ideas that have come out of the Science, Space & Technology Committee members recently.

(sigh) Thanks for the informed insight. We'll get back to you if we need anything more.
 
2012-10-10 01:06:26 PM

Deucednuisance: She's a freaking Rhodes Scholar, jeenyus. She graduated from Oxford with a doctorate in Political Science. Now she's hosting a TV show about Politics.


Look, I'm not saying that the little dude isn't intelligent, but let's stop pretending that an advanced degree in political science is something we should be impressed with.
 
2012-10-10 01:07:40 PM

coeyagi: I think the problem with Kos is that they have a few far left posters who go off the deep end and that hurts their credibility.


The key is to never, ever, read anything that's not a main page article. Try to avoid anything on the 'recommended' list....and stay well the fark away from anything on the 'recent diary' list. That's basically equal to a Fark Politics thread.

The main page articles though are generally well written and researched....particularly those by their regular writers.
 
2012-10-10 01:07:44 PM
The average voter wants their candidate to be photogenic, charismatic, be married (preferably to their first spouse), have most of their hair, be an appropriate body weight and to possess a salesman-type personality that can raises gobs of campaign funds.

Expecting that they also have common sense, an ethical character, and a solid knowledge base? That's probably asking for too much.
 
2012-10-10 01:07:49 PM

randomjsa: Interesting.

Since when has competence on a given subject been a problem for liberals by the way?


Since when has using examples to back your feckless arguments been a problem for ALTs who use "Random" in their name.... anyway?
 
2012-10-10 01:09:07 PM

petec: pute kisses like a man:
/ farking sriracha cock sauce.

you put the sauce where?


the cock is on the sauce

www.huyfong.com
 
2012-10-10 01:09:07 PM

Shrugging Atlas: coeyagi: I think the problem with Kos is that they have a few far left posters who go off the deep end and that hurts their credibility.

The key is to never, ever, read anything that's not a main page article. Try to avoid anything on the 'recommended' list....and stay well the fark away from anything on the 'recent diary' list. That's basically equal to a Fark Politics thread.

The main page articles though are generally well written and researched....particularly those by their regular writers.


So what you're saying is that every Kos link listed on Fark is to be avoided. It's like watching Chris Matthews and Alan Grayson on speed in that piece.
 
2012-10-10 01:09:26 PM

zepher: Kind of like having Rangel as the Ways and Means Chair when he is a tax cheat, right?

The vast majority of them are bums, both left and right.


PhilGed: MSNBC is just about as terribly biased as Fox,


MugzyBrown: Against people without knowledge on the Science, Space, & Tech committee, but I'm sure the congressmen and senators who wrote the The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act are all experts in following professions that all interact in the national economy:

Medical Professionals
Pharma
Health Insurance
Medical Equipment Manuf
Electronic Medical Record Systems Technology
Macro/Micro Economics


I'm sure that broad, sweeping law was perfectly sculpted to make sure all of these industry groups and more interact without problem


So what you guys are saying is that....both sides are bad? Who should I vote for?
 
2012-10-10 01:09:50 PM
This makes me sad. I'm a biology major and today in class (anecdote time!) we did a brief review of Darwin and evolution before we started delving deeper into the theory and my professor prefaced her lecture with "Alright, I know you all have probably covered this before, but due to the political climate in this country I am going to make sure you know and are comfortable with spouting out exactly why evolution is demonstrably true. It is my job to make sure you do not leave this class ignorant." This is the first time I've had a lecture on evolution prefaced in such a way and I'm sad that it has to be done.

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\\\I have fond memories of Reading Rainbow (was reading at a college level at age 9) and Bill Nye is one of my heroes (and I am becoming a scientist because he made science AWESOME to me)
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2012-10-10 01:10:05 PM

xynix: Once we're at the level to manipulate and then observe we'll have a viable quantum computing base. From then on it's huge.. Perhaps by 2025 we'll have our first QC processor which will be thousands of times faster than standard silicon processors. Thousands!


fine, but can you put that in "porn" terms so the rest of us can understand it...
 
2012-10-10 01:10:53 PM

SoCalChris: Dana Rohrabacher may not belong on the committee for other reasons, but I wouldn't give her too much of a hassle over the dinosaur farts comment, considering that livestock farts are currently considered a contributing factor to global warming. I"m not saying that she's right, but the idea isn't as ridiculous as a lot of ideas that have come out of the Science, Space & Technology Committee members recently.

/Broun & Akin are still raging farktards though.


Dana's a dude.

/haha he has a girl's name
 
2012-10-10 01:11:22 PM

Needlessly Complicated: pute kisses like a man: well, in their defense, I'm feeling a breakthrough from the magic of farting and the pits of hell right now.

/ farking sriracha cock sauce.

You will not say an unkind word about the sriracha sauce!!!


gastronomical events are no more a condemnation of sriracha's greatness, than drunkenness is a condemnation of a good bourbon's awesomeness
 
2012-10-10 01:11:40 PM

traylor: evolution and the big bang theory "are lies straight from the pit of hell."


What somebody spreading lies from the pit of hell may look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 410x600]

Link


Actually, that looks an awful lot like the Jesuit science teacher that taught me about the Big Bang theory & evolution. Soo........ No 

and for the record, no, he didn't teach me they were lies from Hell...
 
2012-10-10 01:12:45 PM
Science is non-partisan.
 
2012-10-10 01:15:20 PM
It isn't as if the democrats are any better/smarter. Truly intelligent people don't have to resort to politics to earn a living
 
2012-10-10 01:16:09 PM

Girl From The North Country: SoCalChris: Dana Rohrabacher may not belong on the committee for other reasons, but I wouldn't give her too much of a hassle over the dinosaur farts comment, considering that livestock farts are currently considered a contributing factor to global warming. I"m not saying that she's right, but the idea isn't as ridiculous as a lot of ideas that have come out of the Science, Space & Technology Committee members recently.

/Broun & Akin are still raging farktards though.

Dana's a dude.

/haha he has a girl's name


Leslie and Pat would like a word with you.

207.56.179.67

Dana Millbank

www.dana-carvey.com

Dana Carvey

entimg.s-msn.com

Dana Elcar
 
2012-10-10 01:17:28 PM

Pumpernickel bread: It isn't as if the democrats are any better/smarter. Truly intelligent people don't have to resort to politics to earn a living


Truly, it's too tough to look up statistics to prove you're wrong.

2008 National education rankings

Red States Average: 32.4
Blue States Average: 20.5
 
2012-10-10 01:19:13 PM

Spanky_McFarksalot: xynix: Once we're at the level to manipulate and then observe we'll have a viable quantum computing base. From then on it's huge.. Perhaps by 2025 we'll have our first QC processor which will be thousands of times faster than standard silicon processors. Thousands!

fine, but can you put that in "porn" terms so the rest of us can understand it...


You will be able to render it in real time from avatars that are so lifelike you swear it's a video of a real human being. Arse-zits and all.
 
2012-10-10 01:24:08 PM

coeyagi: You should go to Japanese Executive Retraining to get your ribbons of shame.


At least it's not a cone of shame.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-10 01:26:17 PM

coeyagi: 2008 National education rankings

Red States Average: 32.4
Blue States Average: 20.5


puzzled_dog.jpg
 
2012-10-10 01:32:03 PM

tricycleracer: WizardofToast: Stay in school, kids.

Mr. "Lies straight from of the pit of hell" is an M.D.

I hope he's just patronizing his idiot constituency. I really, really do.


The question I'm dying to ask him is, if, as he claims, evolution is a lie, would he as an MD inject his patients with last year's flu vaccine?
 
2012-10-10 01:33:00 PM

mainstreet62: Can we require an AP Exam grade of at least a 4 in Chemistry, Physics, Biology, and Calculus if any of these morons want to be on the Science committee?

This "my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence" BS is getting really tired.


You know, I don't expect these guys to be scientist or experts. I just expect them to have a basic knowledge of scientific principles and the ability and desire to be able to learn and follow specific topics that are brought up. These guys here are obviously fervently anti science and don't have any desire what so ever to try to understand science and how it fits into the world that we live in. Their only interest seems to be in pushing their own, or whoever is paying them, crackpot theories on everybody, that completely contradicts centuries of scientific study. This is defiantly something we don't need on a science committee or in the modern world.
 
2012-10-10 01:35:52 PM

GoldSpider: coeyagi: 2008 National education rankings

Red States Average: 32.4
Blue States Average: 20.5

puzzled_dog.jpg


puzzled_dog_at_why_you're_puzzled_when_those_averages_show_an_advanta g e_to_dems.jpg
 
2012-10-10 01:36:45 PM

spentmiles: As a quantum optics hobbyist, I applaud David and Serge's work. Their calculations match my own and are soft of a justification for every one of us out that that said you could in fact measure the immeasureable. I know these guys were working hard - too hard to answer letters apparently - and they deserve the accolades.

As a stay at home father of two junior college students, who are currently taking introductory physics and astronomy classes, I have to say that I'm worried about the future of our country's education programs. Paul Broun and Todd Akin are dragging us right back into the dark ages with their faith based arguments and complete ignorance. They want us to return to the Middle Ages when the church was all powerful and pedagogical development was at a standstill. Can you imagine how happy they'd be if we didn't have science programs, but instead spent vast sums on religious indoctrination and faith initiatives?

I'll have you know that at this very moment I am broadcasting signals into outer space - signals that contain precise instructions for an invading alien force -- where to hit, how to hit, and when to hit. And they are receiving these messages too. Just google random numbers, map each number to its corresponding word in the American College Dictionary, and then feed those words into Google translate. You'll see exactly what I've seen - the aliens constructed google and are using it as a communications channel to correspond with us in the know.

Bottom line - we need smart people making decisions. Smart people like me. I should do something about this.


Cool. I've been thinking of starting a new career as an "Ancient Astronaut Theorist." Know where I can get proper credentials?
 
2012-10-10 01:37:41 PM

kregh99: Dimensio: Funbags: If there is no God, then Ron Broun swearing an oath to uphold the Constitution would be non-binding.

Checkmate, Atheists.

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of "perjury"?

Lying = giving an account contrary to the truth
Perjury = giving an account contrary to the truth after swearing on a book of fairy tales that you wouldn't, so help you invisible person.


Providing an affirmation under penalty of perjury requires no "book of fairy tales". Such affirmations, absent any "book of fairy tales", occur in courtrooms frequently and are legally binding.
 
2012-10-10 01:37:51 PM
Excellent article -- with a neat chart -- on motherboard.vice.com from August 21st.
 
2012-10-10 01:39:00 PM

coeyagi: puzzled_dog_at_why_you're_puzzled_when_those_averages_show_an_advanta g e_to_dems.jpg


I have GoldSpider plonked as a farktarded Freeper troll, so.
 
2012-10-10 01:39:39 PM
JAYoung: Unfortunately for America, even if our leaders don't believe in science, there are plenty of other countries out there that do, and they will clean our clocks in the 21st century if we do not get rid of these idiots.

markfara: Jesus will restore our nation to greatness once we get rid of gay marriage.


" Queers! That's what important! That somehow, if we could stop the gays from getting married, everything else would turn out just fine. Everything would change! There'd BE solar energy! The sunnis and the shi'ites would lay down their arms! 'He stopped the queers!' 'I love you, too.' "
 
2012-10-10 01:39:51 PM

LittleKidLover: FTFA:

Maddow's producers played a clip of Rep. Paul Broun telling supporters that evolution and the big bang theory "are lies straight from the pit of hell."


[i0.kym-cdn.com image 500x282]


Beat me to it...
 
2012-10-10 01:42:09 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: coeyagi: puzzled_dog_at_why_you're_puzzled_when_those_averages_show_an_advanta g e_to_dems.jpg

I have GoldSpider plonked as a farktarded Freeper troll, so.


Good to know, somehow he has evaded my radar.
 
2012-10-10 01:44:15 PM

plumbicon: Excellent article -- with a neat chart -- on motherboard.vice.com from August 21st.


Good lord, that's depressing.
 
2012-10-10 01:45:40 PM
Science and Religion are mutually exclusive.

And if you believe otherwise, you are retarded.
And if you support your contention that Science and Religion are not mutually exclusive on the fact that there are scientists that believe in a supreme being, then you are doubly retarded.
And if I have to explain why, then you are retarded beyond explanation, so I won't waste my breath.
 
2012-10-10 01:46:20 PM

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Giltric: Everyone questions why they let these republicans dictate science policy but it's just a distraction keeping you from asking why politicians in general are the ones who dictate science policy.

When left to a politician, which of the scientists do you think will get a grant....the one who wants to grow a sweet stawberry or the one who wants to grow a tatesless strawberry with a long shelf life that ships well.


D or R they are all in the pockets of lobbyists.

Hmm, I detect from your post that you seem to believe that both sides are bad...

Which side should I then vote for, kindly sirrah?


A third party. Any third party. If you all continue voting for the lesser of two evils, then we're condemned to be "governed" by a congress full of Tweedle Dums & Tweedle Dees, and have either Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee as our president.
 
2012-10-10 01:47:46 PM
Most of them probably know deep in their minds that the laws of physics are real, but since their entire Reconstructionist political theology is part and parcel of a house of cards that would fall apart if challenged in any way, they must publicly pander to the core constituents that support and buy into it.
 
2012-10-10 01:50:38 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: Oh, my Akin thread?

[i.imgur.com image 375x500]


Looks like Killface from Frisky Dingo
 
2012-10-10 01:51:41 PM

AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.


I know what you mean - pretty much anyone can get a Rhodes Scholarship these days with enough proof-of-purchase barcodes, amirite?

But her job only requires that she be able to read.

Well, it's a good thing she got lots of practice for that while getting her PhD from Oxford, 'cause she seems pretty good at it
 
2012-10-10 01:56:48 PM
varmitydog

And the chairman for the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology is 89 year old Ralph Hall. Hall is a former Texas judge who has now been in congress for 32 years. He was a democrat until the Bush administration came into power, then he switched parties, mostly because he is a long time friend of the Bush family. He was heavily involved with Jack Abramoff, indeed Abramoff made 15 calls to his office the day the CNMI scandal broke, but there were no consequences to him from this.
So the USA has a crooked dotard in charge of one of the most important committees for America's future. This will not end well.


This can be easily fixed, with no impingement on 1st. amend. `free speech', by requiring all 535 Cong.critters to post up ALL face-to-face meetings with lobbyists on video/ALL other communications with lobbyists (phone, smoke signals doesn't farking matter) be posted up as well (particularly proposed legislation written by lobbyists). These communications would have to be available on their websites within 48hr.s/immediately, if pending vote impacting lobbyist's masters is going to be taken the following day.

That, and strict public financing (only) of all elections. This wouldn't prevent the `wink-and-nod', but the fear of mandatory 5 yr.s in prison term for violating the above rules would deflate K Street as we know it, and force some of the `elect' to think for themselves.

Why do you think both parties try to assign new elected reps, from hotly contested districts to the Finance Com.? Wouldn't have anything to do with the financial services industry lobbying ($$$) arm, would it? Get enough support to swing the next election to the `incumbent'.

/majority of voters - don't understand the scientific method and lack the funds to be considered `constituents' who are allowed access to `experiment' with the `science' of politics
 
2012-10-10 01:58:33 PM
Faculty here call it "The Revenge of the C Students"
 
2012-10-10 01:59:09 PM
Well, when a 54 story steel and concrete skyscraper falls down @ the same rate of every other controlled demolition in history and the accepted Main Stream view is that it fell down symetrically because of asymetrical office fires for the first time in architectual history it is not surprising that these are the people in charge of scientific advancement.
 
2012-10-10 01:59:19 PM

AllUpInYa: p.s. That's one ugly chick


You point being...?

Besides, smart tomboy chicks are totally hot. I just wish she still wore her glasses.
 
2012-10-10 02:00:52 PM

Spanky_McFarksalot: xynix: Once we're at the level to manipulate and then observe we'll have a viable quantum computing base. From then on it's huge.. Perhaps by 2025 we'll have our first QC processor which will be thousands of times faster than standard silicon processors. Thousands!

fine, but can you put that in "porn" terms so the rest of us can understand it...


Sure.. As more data is created it will become harder to search through it all. Today there are about 1000 companys that have over a petabyte of data. By 2020 it's expected that 1000 companys will have an exabyte or more. That's 1000 petabytes which is 1000 terabytes. Searching through that much data is going to require serious processing power. So you'll want QC processors just so you can find the exact porn you're looking for at blazing speeds. Remember when searching for porn you're also competing with people searching for unimportant shiat like science stories..
 
2012-10-10 02:01:50 PM
MugzyBrown: " I'm sure the congressmen and senators who wrote the The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act "

You think laws are written by congressmen and senators?
Politicians can rarely be bothered to *read* laws ffs.
 
2012-10-10 02:02:09 PM

AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.


If she knows that the universe is more than 9,000 years old, then she is more science-literate than Broun and some of the Bush appointees to NASA.
 
2012-10-10 02:03:59 PM
should never be allowed anywhere near science

[GOP_supporter]
Well, subby, science isn't a location or a tangible object. Shows what you stupid libs know.
[/GOP_supporter]
 
2012-10-10 02:04:23 PM

pciszek: AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

If she knows that the universe is more than 9,000 years old, then she is more science-literate than Broun and some of the Bush appointees to NASA.


Its easier just to ignore people who call Rachel Maddow stupid. Do you disagree with her? Fine, that's acceptable. Anyone who thinks she is stupid has their head so far up their own ass its just a waste of time arguing with them about anything.
 
2012-10-10 02:06:57 PM

forresttriax: I was amazed that physicists won the Nobel peace prize. You would think they would be too busy with their scientific research to work on anything else.


If a chemist could why not a physicist?
 
2012-10-10 02:09:10 PM

CheekyMonkey: USA Prime Credit Peggy: Giltric: Everyone questions why they let these republicans dictate science policy but it's just a distraction keeping you from asking why politicians in general are the ones who dictate science policy.

When left to a politician, which of the scientists do you think will get a grant....the one who wants to grow a sweet stawberry or the one who wants to grow a tatesless strawberry with a long shelf life that ships well.


D or R they are all in the pockets of lobbyists.

Hmm, I detect from your post that you seem to believe that both sides are bad...

Which side should I then vote for, kindly sirrah?

A third party. Any third party. If you all continue voting for the lesser of two evils, then we're condemned to be "governed" by a congress full of Tweedle Dums & Tweedle Dees, and have either Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee as our president.


The problem is critical mass. Third parties must hit it before large numbers of voters will run the risk of supporting a third party candidate who currently fails miserably and then the voters end up wasting their vote, in essence, voting for the greater of two evils.

A lot of people like the idea, maybe even ENOUGH like the idea, but not enough people will risk it in the end.
 
2012-10-10 02:09:43 PM

spentmiles: As a quantum optics hobbyist, I applaud David and Serge's work. Their calculations match my own and are soft of a justification for every one of us out that that said you could in fact measure the immeasureable. I know these guys were working hard - too hard to answer letters apparently - and they deserve the accolades.

As a stay at home father of two junior college students, who are currently taking introductory physics and astronomy classes, I have to say that I'm worried about the future of our country's education programs. Paul Broun and Todd Akin are dragging us right back into the dark ages with their faith based arguments and complete ignorance. They want us to return to the Middle Ages when the church was all powerful and pedagogical development was at a standstill. Can you imagine how happy they'd be if we didn't have science programs, but instead spent vast sums on religious indoctrination and faith initiatives?

I'll have you know that at this very moment I am broadcasting signals into outer space - signals that contain precise instructions for an invading alien force -- where to hit, how to hit, and when to hit. And they are receiving these messages too. Just google random numbers, map each number to its corresponding word in the American College Dictionary, and then feed those words into Google translate. You'll see exactly what I've seen - the aliens constructed google and are using it as a communications channel to correspond with us in the know.

Bottom line - we need smart people making decisions. Smart people like me. I should do something about this.



The problem is you don't proclaim to love Jesus enough ... sooooo ... yeaaaaa ... I'm gonna go vote for the dumbfark who thinks dino farts do things to our environment.

*sarcasm*
 
2012-10-10 02:10:18 PM

Girl From The North Country: There are 23 Republican members on this committee. Sadly, something tells me these 5 are not outliers.


You act like democrats on the committee are all qualified to make judgements on this topic, they are equally stupid and should not make decisions either.
 
2012-10-10 02:10:34 PM

ringersol: MugzyBrown: " I'm sure the congressmen and senators who wrote the The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act "

You think laws are written by congressmen and senators?
Politicians can rarely be bothered to *read* laws ffs.


Well then you can't have it both ways. You can't biatch about science tards being on the science committee but excuse other tards for being in charge of the economic commitees.
 
2012-10-10 02:13:42 PM

xtalman: forresttriax: I was amazed that physicists won the Nobel peace prize. You would think they would be too busy with their scientific research to work on anything else.

If a chemist could why not a physicist?


Referring to Pauling's Peace prize for nuclear disarmament? In fact, a Manhattan Project physicist won the Peace prize for similar reasons: Joseph Rotblat.
 
2012-10-10 02:16:02 PM
Isn't this the thread where the Connies make fun of Rachel MADCOW??

She's gay, ya know...
 
2012-10-10 02:16:35 PM

MugzyBrown: Well then you can't have it both ways. You can't biatch about science tards being on the science committee but excuse other tards for being in charge of the economic commitees.


I can't? Why not? Is economics a science the way physics is?

Is there someone on the economic committees who is woefully ignorance of economics? Who? Do you have some specific person in mind, with specific evidence of their lack of understand of economics?
 
2012-10-10 02:19:23 PM

bobfark: traylor: evolution and the big bang theory "are lies straight from the pit of hell."


What somebody spreading lies from the pit of hell may look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 410x600]

Link

Actually, that looks an awful lot like the Jesuit science teacher that taught me about the Big Bang theory & evolution. Soo........ No 

and for the record, no, he didn't teach me they were lies from Hell...


Actually according to the fundies the Jesuit's are straight from the pits of Hell.

/Taught by Franciscans who are considered just as bad.
 
2012-10-10 02:19:30 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-10 02:21:04 PM
Half of America should kill the other half in self-defence.
 
2012-10-10 02:22:42 PM
There's a whole lot more stupid people in America than George Carlin lead us to believe.
 
2012-10-10 02:23:08 PM

CPennypacker: pciszek: AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

If she knows that the universe is more than 9,000 years old, then she is more science-literate than Broun and some of the Bush appointees to NASA.

Its easier just to ignore people who call Rachel Maddow stupid. Do you disagree with her? Fine, that's acceptable. Anyone who thinks she is stupid has their head so far up their own ass its just a waste of time arguing with them about anything.


"Sharp" is generally used to indicate conceptual prowess, but Maddow is sharp. Presumably AllUpInYa is talking about ignorance, since she is relatively ignorant of science. She seems to have non-specialized college level knowledge. That is, someone who neither majored in a science, nor is an enthusiast who studies the details on their own, but did take courses and paid attention. That's above average, but perhaps lacking for the responsibilities of a science panel.

But, the people she is complaining about are on the panel, and yet much more ignorant than that. That's a legitimate gripe no matter who it's coming from. You don't have to be a nuclear technician to know that Homer Simpson shouldn't be in the safety inspector.
 
2012-10-10 02:25:08 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Deucednuisance: She's a freaking Rhodes Scholar, jeenyus. She graduated from Oxford with a doctorate in Political Science. Now she's hosting a TV show about Politics.

Look, I'm not saying that the little dude isn't intelligent, but let's stop pretending that an advanced degree in political science is something we should be impressed with.


An advanced degree in Poli Sci from Liberty University or Oral Roberts University might not be of much value. An advanced degree from Oxford (following a baccaleaureate from Stanford) is of some quantifiable value.
 
2012-10-10 02:26:30 PM

pute kisses like a man: petec: pute kisses like a man:
/ farking sriracha cock sauce.

you put the sauce where?

the cock is on the sauce

[www.huyfong.com image 150x233]


Oh, OK, I thought you were putting hot sauce on .. nevermind

Is that stuff any good on tossed salad?
 
2012-10-10 02:27:19 PM

Ambitwistor: xtalman: forresttriax: I was amazed that physicists won the Nobel peace prize. You would think they would be too busy with their scientific research to work on anything else.

If a chemist could why not a physicist?

Referring to Pauling's Peace prize for nuclear disarmament? In fact, a Manhattan Project physicist won the Peace prize for similar reasons: Joseph Rotblat.


Yes, did realize a Rotblat also received it. Worked at Caltech for a long time so I am more familiar with Pauling.
 
2012-10-10 02:27:28 PM

steamingpile: Girl From The North Country: There are 23 Republican members on this committee. Sadly, something tells me these 5 are not outliers.

You act like democrats on the committee are all qualified to make judgements on this topic, they are equally stupid and should not make decisions either.


I haven't heard one of them claim that a woman's body would reject a rapist sperm so therefore a woman can't get pregnant by legitimate rape.
 
2012-10-10 02:35:36 PM

coeyagi: CheekyMonkey: USA Prime Credit Peggy: Giltric: Everyone questions why they let these republicans dictate science policy but it's just a distraction keeping you from asking why politicians in general are the ones who dictate science policy.

When left to a politician, which of the scientists do you think will get a grant....the one who wants to grow a sweet stawberry or the one who wants to grow a tatesless strawberry with a long shelf life that ships well.


D or R they are all in the pockets of lobbyists.

Hmm, I detect from your post that you seem to believe that both sides are bad...

Which side should I then vote for, kindly sirrah?

A third party. Any third party. If you all continue voting for the lesser of two evils, then we're condemned to be "governed" by a congress full of Tweedle Dums & Tweedle Dees, and have either Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee as our president.

The problem is critical mass. Third parties must hit it before large numbers of voters will run the risk of supporting a third party candidate who currently fails miserably and then the voters end up wasting their vote, in essence, voting for the greater of two evils.

A lot of people like the idea, maybe even ENOUGH like the idea, but not enough people will risk it in the end.


Yeah, although your statement "in essence, voting for the greater of two evils" assumes that the greater of the two evils always wins the election.

Honestly, though, I don't understand why people allow themselves to be manipulated by the "Big 2" into thinking that they are polar opposites of each other, when really, they're both in the pockets of Big Business, and neither of them gives a fark about the little guy.
 
2012-10-10 02:36:30 PM

CPennypacker: pciszek: AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

If she knows that the universe is more than 9,000 years old, then she is more science-literate than Broun and some of the Bush appointees to NASA.

Its easier just to ignore people who call Rachel Maddow stupid. Do you disagree with her? Fine, that's acceptable. Anyone who thinks she is stupid has their head so far up their own ass its just a waste of time arguing with them about anything.


How about Limbaugh or Hannity? Are they stupid?
 
2012-10-10 02:39:30 PM

DownDaRiver: Any commitees purpose is best served when there is a rounded point of interest and views.


Yes but not believing in science is not a view that serves the efforts of the SCIENCE committee well. All educated persons know the Big Bang theory is most likely incorrect but not because the devil invented it--because the science doesn't add up. These people belong in a time capsule, not on an official committee that could change the government's plans for funding etc of scientific endeavors.
 
2012-10-10 02:39:30 PM

xtalman: bobfark: traylor: evolution and the big bang theory "are lies straight from the pit of hell."


What somebody spreading lies from the pit of hell may look like.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 410x600]

Link

Actually, that looks an awful lot like the Jesuit science teacher that taught me about the Big Bang theory & evolution. Soo........ No 

and for the record, no, he didn't teach me they were lies from Hell...

Actually according to the fundies the Jesuit's are straight from the pits of Hell.

/Taught by Franciscans who are considered just as bad.


Good point. Though the Jesuits also taught us, though the Franciscans were nice guys, they weren't as smart as them.
Jesuits definitely considered themselves to be the elite in the Church, they even had their own pope (the Black Pope).

And from what I recall, a lot of fundies grouped Catholics, Jews, blacks and mormons in the same tent, they were very inclusive with who they hated!
 
2012-10-10 02:43:57 PM

xynix: CPennypacker: pciszek: AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

If she knows that the universe is more than 9,000 years old, then she is more science-literate than Broun and some of the Bush appointees to NASA.

Its easier just to ignore people who call Rachel Maddow stupid. Do you disagree with her? Fine, that's acceptable. Anyone who thinks she is stupid has their head so far up their own ass its just a waste of time arguing with them about anything.

How about Limbaugh or Hannity? Are they stupid?


I'm willing to concede that Limbaugh may be pretending to be more stupid than he really is. i.e., he denies evolution on the air, but he may be lying.
 
2012-10-10 03:02:34 PM

steamingpile: Girl From The North Country: There are 23 Republican members on this committee. Sadly, something tells me these 5 are not outliers.

You act like democrats on the committee are all qualified to make judgements on this topic, they are equally stupid and should not make decisions either.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say not one of those Dems is on record saying they believe the earth is 7,000 years old and was created in 6 actual days.
 
2012-10-10 03:04:55 PM
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that"
George Carlin
 
2012-10-10 03:05:14 PM

Girl From The North Country: steamingpile: Girl From The North Country: There are 23 Republican members on this committee. Sadly, something tells me these 5 are not outliers.

You act like democrats on the committee are all qualified to make judgements on this topic, they are equally stupid and should not make decisions either.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say not one of those Dems is on record saying they believe the earth is 7,000 years old and was created in 6 actual days.


His response: Well, that's not enough, they're not Scientific experts!

Qualifications for GOP committeeperson: heart beat
Qualifications for Dem committeeperson: PhD in a Hard Science
 
2012-10-10 03:13:43 PM
Even those brainwashed congressmen should like The Big Bang Theory
collider.com
 
2012-10-10 03:16:21 PM
Here's an idea: Let's stop electing lawyers and politicians to office. Start electing scientists and teachers.
 
2012-10-10 03:18:48 PM

coeyagi: Qualifications for GOP committeeperson: heart beat


How does that explain Cheney?
 
2012-10-10 03:20:05 PM
I just can't believe that Maddow didn't get the Schrodinger's Cat joke in the official announcement.

www.zeitnews.org
 
2012-10-10 03:25:39 PM
I am not going to click that link because I know, I just know, that both my senators and my house representative are mentioned in that article. I don't need any depressing news at the moment.
 
2012-10-10 03:27:15 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Mentat: Hey, if Todd Akin wasn't on the Science Committee, how would we fund research into sperm-hunting ovarian anti-rape missiles?

Yeah, it's pretty cool what vaginas can do these days...


Hey, if we can put a man on a vagina...
 
2012-10-10 03:27:29 PM

AllUpInYa: Byno: AllUpInYa: It's a sad state, but Maddow doesn't seem like she's much sharper.

But her job only requires that she be able to read.

You sound concerned that both sides are bad.

Of course, I can't find any Oxford degrees amongst the Republicans listed, so I'll take your word for it.

I know a guy who graduated from Oxford business .... he wasn't that sharp, either.


The only Oxford Business School I know of is what used to be the old St Aldates Secretarial College, so maybe his shorthand isn't up to much? I know someone who claims to have graduated from the Sorbonne, but neglects to mention that they went on a 6 week cookery course during the holidays.
 
2012-10-10 03:30:46 PM

DeaH: CapeFearCadaver: Mentat: Hey, if Todd Akin wasn't on the Science Committee, how would we fund research into sperm-hunting ovarian anti-rape missiles?

Yeah, it's pretty cool what vaginas can do these days...

Hey, if we can put a man on a vagina...


As I understand it, there are even procedures for putting a vagina on a man!
 
2012-10-10 03:30:51 PM
I have to hand it to people: they will defend any action by any member of their team tooth and nail.

Rep. Paul Broun (MD!), a member of the United States House of Representatives Science Committee basically said that science is a bunch of lies and hokum. Why must this be defended?

What the hell has this guy ever done for anyone that is defending this ridiculously embarrassing statement?

Yeah, yeah... both sides are bad so vote Republican. F*ck that. Akin gets defended for making up that whole "shut the whole thing down" line, Larry Craig gets defended for being a homophobic closet case. Why?
 
2012-10-10 03:34:36 PM

Somewhat off topic, but I was a little disappointed in Rachel Maddow the other day. She had a segment complaining about Romney's foreign policy ignorance, and used a clip from the primary debates where he said (I'm paraphrasing):

There was no talk at all about terrorism in the 2008 presidential debates, and then, one year later, the world changed


From context, it's clear that his "one year later, the world changed" phrase refers to 9/11, and he meant to say the "2000 presidential debates" instead of the "2008 presidential debates." So a pretty benign flubbed line. But Rachel Maddow went medieval on his ass, bringing up all kinds of clips from the 2008 debate where terrorism was mentioned, to prove Romney's ignorance. She completely ignored the "one year later, the world changed" phrase, and what he could possibly have meant by that.

I found that disingenuous, and below her usual standards.
 
2012-10-10 03:37:00 PM
www.terrycrews.com
 
Ant
2012-10-10 03:40:16 PM
I'm not sure if the Huffington Post should be allowed near science either.
 
2012-10-10 03:57:06 PM

Doc Ok: Somewhat off topic, but I was a little disappointed in Rachel Maddow the other day. She had a segment complaining about Romney's foreign policy ignorance, and used a clip from the primary debates where he said (I'm paraphrasing):

There was no talk at all about terrorism in the 2008 presidential debates, and then, one year later, the world changed

From context, it's clear that his "one year later, the world changed" phrase refers to 9/11, and he meant to say the "2000 presidential debates" instead of the "2008 presidential debates." So a pretty benign flubbed line. But Rachel Maddow went medieval on his ass, bringing up all kinds of clips from the 2008 debate where terrorism was mentioned, to prove Romney's ignorance. She completely ignored the "one year later, the world changed" phrase, and what he could possibly have meant by that.

I found that disingenuous, and below her usual standards.


From what I can tell, those are her usual standards. She is a partisan blinded tool. She also went ape shiat about Romney's joke about not knowing why airplane windows don't open. And yes, it is a joke. Watch the video.

/this is coming from an Obama supporter, and one who is disliking Romney more and more.
//Of course that doesn't mean she is always wrong. She is often right, in fact, and is here. These wackos should not be allowed near science policy.
 
2012-10-10 04:08:07 PM

ZoeNekros: I found that disingenuous, and below her usual standards.

From what I can tell, those are her usual standards. She is a partisan blinded tool. She also went ape shiat about Romney's joke about not knowing why airplane windows don't open. And yes, it is a joke. Watch the video.

/this is coming from an Obama supporter, and one who is disliking Romney more and more.
//Of course that doesn't mean she is always wrong. She is often right, in fact, and is here. These wackos should not be allowed near science policy.


I haven't been watching her show for all that long and missed the airplane window bit (but then, almost everyone ignored the fact that it was an obvious joke gone dud), but this was the first time I noticed something like this. All other times, I find her very insightful, although her humor seems a bit forced.
 
2012-10-10 04:08:56 PM
It was a good piece up to the ending. Then she declared a "win" and ridiculed the dino farts comment.
 
2012-10-10 04:16:27 PM

Doc Ok: ZoeNekros: I found that disingenuous, and below her usual standards.

From what I can tell, those are her usual standards. She is a partisan blinded tool. She also went ape shiat about Romney's joke about not knowing why airplane windows don't open. And yes, it is a joke. Watch the video.

/this is coming from an Obama supporter, and one who is disliking Romney more and more.
//Of course that doesn't mean she is always wrong. She is often right, in fact, and is here. These wackos should not be allowed near science policy.

I haven't been watching her show for all that long and missed the airplane window bit (but then, almost everyone ignored the fact that it was an obvious joke gone dud), but this was the first time I noticed something like this. All other times, I find her very insightful, although her humor seems a bit forced.


Yeah, that's why I softened the blow by saying that she is often right. Nonetheless, she is always a partisan shill -- it's just that often times that doesn't matter. There are plenty of legitimate gripes to be made, and topics which are party-neutral, and she generally does a good job with them.
 
2012-10-10 04:17:17 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: coeyagi: Qualifications for GOP committeeperson: heart beat

How does that explain Cheney?


They put him in the most useless and yet powerful position of all: V.P.
 
2012-10-10 04:28:33 PM

Deedeemarz: All educated persons know the Big Bang theory is most likely incorrect


I wouldn't say it is incorrect. It is incomplete. It is certainly mostly correct, but there are still some big unanswered questions.
 
2012-10-10 04:45:40 PM
Deucednuisance: She's a freaking Rhodes Scholar, jeenyus. She graduated from Oxford with a doctorate in Political Science. Now she's hosting a TV show about Politics.

Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I'm not saying that the little dude isn't intelligent, but let's stop pretending that an advanced degree in political science is something we should be impressed with.

Let's also stop pretending that your comments are worth reading. After Maddow's credentials were pointed out to you, you replied with a banal lesbian joke, then followed it up by suggesting that a doctorate in Political Science from Oxford isn't sufficiently "impressive" to you. Do Rush Limbaugh and Seah Hannity possess more impressive bona fides for your tastes?
 
2012-10-10 04:46:51 PM
Science has become a crutch for those without faith. I pray for them daily.
 
2012-10-10 04:49:19 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I'm not saying that the little dude isn't intelligent, but let's stop pretending that an advanced degree in political science is something we should be impressed with.


And what Internationally-renowned University gave you a merit-based full scholarship for your post-graduate studies? One of fewer than a hundred awarded world-wide per year?

Dude, she isn't just smart, she's a member of an elite group that numbers less than 8000 people in the history of the world. It's a hell of an exclusive club, one that you or I have no glimmer of hope to join.

Hell, just walking on campus, she's far and away brighter than anyone jabbering away, here.
 
2012-10-10 04:51:12 PM
As if Rachel Madcow is a bastion of journalistic integrity...
 
2012-10-10 04:54:01 PM

Grungehamster: MugzyBrown: coeyagi: No, but I am sure most of them are experts in 1 or more of those things. But your "concern" is duly noted.

Please let me know which of the congressmen on the ways and means committee are experts in these fields? The chairman, Charles Rangel... let's see.... has been in politics since 1967 and before that was a soldier and a lawyer. Sounds like somebody to write a law that affects the whole country and a large chunk of the economy.

Fluorescent Testicle: You do know that Obamacare was written by Republicans, right? Not Democrats?

So?

There's no person or group of people in congress qualified to write a law of such a magnitute... that's why I wouldn't want any of them to attempt it.

What's your point?

The healthcare bill wasn't primarily written by politicians. The framework was developed by the conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation, and large chunks of the PPACA were written by lobbying groups representing many interests including both doctors and the health insurance industry until it met their standards to accept that the law addressed their concerns.

The involvement of lobbyists comes with its own problems, but this wasn't just a bunch of former lawyers writing an idealized bill on a field they had only a layman's experience with.

, among others, Jonathon Gruber, an MIT economist specializing in the public policy and health-care economics.

FTFY
 
2012-10-10 04:57:01 PM

flynn80: Well, when a 54 story steel and concrete skyscraper falls down @ the same rate of every other controlled demolition in history


Wait, you know something about variations in the Gravitational Constant?

Because you know exactly Jack and Shiat about controlled demolition if you can say that with a straight face
 
2012-10-10 04:58:28 PM

Barricaded Gunman: Deucednuisance: She's a freaking Rhodes Scholar, jeenyus. She graduated from Oxford with a doctorate in Political Science. Now she's hosting a TV show about Politics.

Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I'm not saying that the little dude isn't intelligent, but let's stop pretending that an advanced degree in political science is something we should be impressed with.

Let's also stop pretending that your comments are worth reading. After Maddow's credentials were pointed out to you, you replied with a banal lesbian joke, then followed it up by suggesting that a doctorate in Political Science from Oxford isn't sufficiently "impressive" to you. Do Rush Limbaugh and Seah Hannity possess more impressive bona fides for your tastes?


It's not even bona fides.. I seriously dislike Sean and Rush but those guys are very smart. Sean is worth $35 mil and Rush is worth $300 mil or so.. You don't get that kind of cash by being an idiot. You can win that kind of cash in the lotto but the idiot will piss it away in a year or two. You can get that kind of money being an athlete but we know the statistics around that.. gone in a year or two. Both of these guys have built a financial empire and they've done it right. Maddow is worth around $13 million.. She's also very smart.

All of these people have in common is an ability to get people fired up and coming back. Who knows what they really believe and it's not even important. I seriously doubt Rush and Sean believe half the shiat they say on the air but that's not their job. They're not out there to be truth tellers they're out there to make money and they do it well.
 
2012-10-10 05:05:35 PM

LaughingRadish: As if Rachel Madcow is a bastion of journalistic integrity...


I assume you put an ellipsis there because you are going to finish your mind fart with evidence.

Link

She's down there at 86th biggest liar in politics. For comparison:

O'Reilly: 39th.
Schultz: 2nd
Huckabee: 62nd (he is on the list now that he hosts on Faux)
Coulter: 66th
Olbermann: 97th
Hannity: 178th (his sample size is pretty low for someone of his prominence)

She's not exactly squeaky clean, but you should direct your ire to Fox News or at least Ed Schultz.
 
2012-10-10 05:06:23 PM

zepher: Kind of like having Rangel as the Ways and Means Chair when he is a tax cheat, right?

The vast majority of them are bums, both left and right.


Agreed. I think politicians are nothing more than failed lawyers who can't do anything else more productive in society.
 
2012-10-10 05:13:15 PM
So now suppose you are a hick, living in a hick state. You live in what is commonly referred to as a civilized country, but you look around you and nowhere in your entire miserable state do you see the slightest sign of civilization. Yet every time you turn on your teevee, which is every single mother-loving day in your life, you see, far off on either coast, others of your fellow citizens enjoying the privileges and usufructs of civilization - comfort, culture, wealth, self-satisfaction and pleasure. Well then, what could be more natural than to take out your frustration and envy by electing the very stupidest and vilest of your benighted region's statesmen to high national office, to deliberately ruin things as much as they can for those smug coastal jerks?
 
2012-10-10 05:20:08 PM

spentmiles: As a quantum optics hobbyist


I knew there was a reason I have you friendlisted as "Master Bullshiatter"
 
2012-10-10 05:20:41 PM

coeyagi: LaughingRadish: As if Rachel Madcow is a bastion of journalistic integrity...

I assume you put an ellipsis there because you are going to finish your mind fart with evidence.

Link

She's down there at 86th biggest liar in politics. For comparison:

O'Reilly: 39th.
Schultz: 2nd
Huckabee: 62nd (he is on the list now that he hosts on Faux)
Coulter: 66th
Olbermann: 97th
Hannity: 178th (his sample size is pretty low for someone of his prominence)

She's not exactly squeaky clean, but you should direct your ire to Fox News or at least Ed Schultz.


The fark? Hannity lies in his sleep. I think he possibly has less integrity than Limbaugh.
 
2012-10-10 05:23:32 PM

kregh99: Lying = giving an account contrary to the truth
Perjury = giving an account contrary to the truth after swearing on a book of fairy tales that you wouldn't, so help you invisible person.


I've testified in court many, many times and there was never a book of fairy tails or was supernatural authority invoked.
 
2012-10-10 05:27:48 PM
For all the people denigrating or diminishing Rachel Maddow...

Does the fact she presented this story change the fact that there are some serious idiots who don't grasp (or actively reject) science on the science committee?

NO.
 
2012-10-10 05:28:32 PM

The Sofa King: Science has become a crutch for those without faith. I pray for them daily.


Sarcasm? (I hope)
 
2012-10-10 05:40:55 PM
Democrats are Pro-science until a social issues comes up and they spend money on the social issue instead. Republicans are Anti-science until business comes up and they spend money on science because it's good for business.
 
2012-10-10 05:41:31 PM

xynix: The vast majority of these people are just plain stupid.. They got elected by equally stupid people.
[snip]


"I am well aware that I am unworthy of uttering opinions on political matters, but perhaps I might be forgiven for doing so by adding that I have doubts about democracy, that curious abuse of statistics."

- Jorge Luis Borges
 
2012-10-10 05:46:08 PM

xynix: All of these people have in common is an ability to get people fired up and coming back. Who knows what they really believe and it's not even important. I seriously doubt Rush and Sean believe half the shiat they say on the air but that's not their job. They're not out there to be truth tellers they're out there to make money and they do it well.


That's not the definition of "smart". That's the definition of "opportunist".
 
2012-10-10 05:49:30 PM

xynix: All of these people have in common is an ability to get people fired up and coming back. Who knows what they really believe and it's not even important. I seriously doubt Rush and Sean believe half the shiat they say on the air but that's not their job. They're not out there to be truth tellers they're out there to make money and they do it well.


If 'ol Rush is just a carnival shill, then why does the entire GOP have their collective tongues rammed up his fat starfish, and why do they treat him like a God when they invite him to conservative conventions?
 
2012-10-10 05:50:43 PM

Snowflake Tubbybottom: Other things people with political science and law degrees suck at:

Establishing and maintaining a budget.
Healthcare
Foreign relations
Prioritizing


Shouldn't prioritizing be at the top of that list?
 
2012-10-10 05:51:52 PM

House, not Senate, but still-obligatory XKCD:

imgs.xkcd.com 
 
2012-10-10 06:09:35 PM
HellRaisingHoosier
The problem is you don't proclaim to love Jesus enough ... sooooo ... yeaaaaa ... I'm gonna go vote for the dumbfark who thinks dino farts do things to our environment.

*sarcasm*


dericwater
sleeper2995:
Dinosaur farts ? Something tells me there is not a lot of critical thinking going on in this committee

To give Dana Rohrbacher a bit of slack, I think he used "dinosaur farts" as hyperbole and as a rhetorical device. The truth is, we do know a lot about the CO2 levels in prehistoric times. I think the high CO2 levels occurred way, way before dinosaur period, perhaps during the precambrian era. I'm not exactly sure.


The real point buried in that joke is that CO2 isn't the only greenhouse gas.
Methane is a lot worse than CO2 in that regard, but there's also a lot less of it (according to German wikipedia, about 20% of the man-made greenhouse effect is allegedly caused by methane emissions).
Thing is: almost 40% of those man-made methane emissions are in some way related to livestock and the biggest chunk of those emissions is caused directly by ruminants' digestion systems, i.e. cows farting.
Hence there's a joke about grass-guzzlers being worse for the climate than gas-guzzlers.

So, joking about the relevance of dinosaur farts to the greenhouse effect of their time isn't as stupid as it may sound.

/ hmm....how many cow farts equal one Brontosaurus fart?
 
2012-10-10 07:04:10 PM

gilgigamesh: coeyagi: LaughingRadish: As if Rachel Madcow is a bastion of journalistic integrity...

I assume you put an ellipsis there because you are going to finish your mind fart with evidence.

Link

She's down there at 86th biggest liar in politics. For comparison:

O'Reilly: 39th.
Schultz: 2nd
Huckabee: 62nd (he is on the list now that he hosts on Faux)
Coulter: 66th
Olbermann: 97th
Hannity: 178th (his sample size is pretty low for someone of his prominence)

She's not exactly squeaky clean, but you should direct your ire to Fox News or at least Ed Schultz.

The fark? Hannity lies in his sleep. I think he possibly has less integrity than Limbaugh.


Like I said, small sample size. The ones with really high or really low rankings tend to have small sample sizes.
 
2012-10-10 07:05:16 PM

markfara: JAYoung: Unfortunately for America, even if our leaders don't believe in science, there are plenty of other countries out there that do, and they will clean our clocks in the 21st century if we do not get rid of these idiots.

Jesus will restore our nation to greatness once we get rid of gay marriage.


Nope. Gotta do better than just gay marriage. We gotta toss out abortion, all science that disagrees with the Bible (which is pretty much all biology, astronomy, some aspects of physics, and all or nearly all geology, plus demographics and linguistics), and a plethora of other things, including Harry Potter and rock music or something.

Once we get all this done--"POOF!"--Jesus restores glory to our nation via magic Jesus powers!!!!!! Yay!
 
2012-10-10 07:19:52 PM
I had wondered what diversionary comments would be posted to counter this video...I was amazed at the Irrelevance of the vast majority of them...
 
2012-10-10 07:44:00 PM
maddow is a dolt! She thinks obama's doing a great job. That should tell you what an idiot she is.

i1253.photobucket.com

Remember when this DEMOCRAT, also an obamoron, said the island of Guam would flip over if too many people lived on it?
 
2012-10-10 07:52:49 PM

Launch Code: maddow is a dolt! She thinks obama's doing a great job. That should tell you what an idiot she is.

[i1253.photobucket.com image 160x160]

Remember when this DEMOCRAT, also an obamoron, said the island of Guam would flip over if too many people lived on it?


0/10. You gotta "do it" when the thread is active, when people are around to see your abortive attempts at the T word.
 
2012-10-10 07:57:28 PM

The Sofa King: Science has become a crutch for those without faith. I pray for them daily.


You'l lonly be 500 years behind the times.
 
2012-10-10 09:18:02 PM
should never be allowed anywhere near science

Like the Huffington Post?

/DISCOUNT HOMEOPATHIC BUTT PILLS ENDORSED BY JENNY MCCARTHY AND DEEPAK CHOPRA, PLUS FIND OUT HOW THE GOP IS INTERFERING WITH YOUR PRENATAL CRYSTAL PAST LIVES HEALING CEREMONY AND A SLIDESHOW ABOUT CATS
 
2012-10-10 10:32:46 PM

mainstreet62: Can we require an AP Exam grade of at least a 4 in Chemistry, Physics, Biology, and Calculus if any of these morons want to be on the Science committee?

This "my ignorance is just as good as your intelligence" BS is getting really tired.


ghall3: Whoa, settle down there. I think a good first step would be passing 8th-grade level math and science tests.

Even that might disqualify them all


ongbok: You know, I don't expect these guys to be scientist or experts. I just expect them to have a basic knowledge of scientific principles and the ability and desire to be able to learn and follow specific topics that are brought up. These guys here are obviously fervently anti science and don't have any desire what so ever to try to understand science and how it fits into the world that we live in. Their only interest seems to be in pushing their own, or whoever is paying them, crackpot theories on everybody, that completely contradicts centuries of scientific study. This is defiantly

[sic] something we don't need on a science committee or in the modern world.

Are any of them smarter (even in just science) than a fifth grader?

Or even this
four-year-old?
 
2012-10-10 11:04:14 PM
Want to sit on the Congressional Science Committee? Score 12/12 on the Pew Science quiz, or GTFO

i651.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-10 11:17:59 PM
only 5?
 
2012-10-10 11:46:29 PM

safetycap: Want to sit on the Congressional Science Committee? Score 12/12 on the Pew Science quiz, or GTFO

[i651.photobucket.com image 793x514]


Thanks for that. Welcome me into the 12/12 10%ers. :-)
 
2012-10-11 12:04:30 AM

safetycap: Want to sit on the Congressional Science Committee? Score 12/12 on the Pew Science quiz, or GTFO

[i651.photobucket.com image 793x514]


Just for giggles, I tried it, got 12/12, then looked at the demographics (dumb-o-grafix?) and started to look for my bottle of rum...

I really weep for what the future of this country will be...
 
2012-10-11 10:27:08 AM

pute kisses like a man: petec: pute kisses like a man:
/ farking sriracha cock sauce.

you put the sauce where?

the cock is on the sauce

[www.huyfong.com image 150x233]


I use this stuff daily.
 
2012-10-11 11:35:38 AM

Arcturus72: safetycap: Want to sit on the Congressional Science Committee? Score 12/12 on the Pew Science quiz, or GTFO

[i651.photobucket.com image 793x514]

Just for giggles, I tried it, got 12/12, then looked at the demographics (dumb-o-grafix?) and started to look for my bottle of rum...

I really weep for what the future of this country will be...


Seriously, how is it even possible for anyone to get even one of those questions wrong, without deliberatly trying to? More than half of the people thought that electrons are larger than atoms and that lasers worked by focusing farking sound waves?! WTF?? Were they just all farking with the pollsters or something?? I know there are a lot of clueless people out there, but this is all just trivial obvious stuff here... There were no trick questions or any obscure stuff... It's just frightening...
 
2012-10-11 12:08:09 PM

wkiernan: Well then, what could be more natural than to take out your frustration and envy by electing the very stupidest and vilest of your benighted region's statesmen to high national office, to deliberately ruin things as much as they can for those smug coastal jerks?


Or, alternatively, pack up your shiat and move to where you can get summa dat?

And goddamit, I've got a nasty cold and sneezed as I was answering one of the questions in the Pew Poll, so I am recorded as 11/12. Mouse must have moved and hit the wrong answer. I won't say which question, but it was one of the more obvious ones.
 
2012-10-11 01:02:41 PM

RobSeace: Arcturus72: safetycap: Want to sit on the Congressional Science Committee? Score 12/12 on the Pew Science quiz, or GTFO

[i651.photobucket.com image 793x514]

Just for giggles, I tried it, got 12/12, then looked at the demographics (dumb-o-grafix?) and started to look for my bottle of rum...

I really weep for what the future of this country will be...

Seriously, how is it even possible for anyone to get even one of those questions wrong, without deliberatly trying to? More than half of the people thought that electrons are larger than atoms and that lasers worked by focusing farking sound waves?! WTF?? Were they just all farking with the pollsters or something?? I know there are a lot of clueless people out there, but this is all just trivial obvious stuff here... There were no trick questions or any obscure stuff... It's just frightening...


I think it would, nonetheless, keep out 50% of the congresspeople from the science committee.

/ 12/12... can't believe that's better than 90% of people in the US. that should be 90% of the people.
 
2012-10-11 01:48:12 PM

pute kisses like a man:
12/12... can't believe that's better than 90% of people in the US. that should be 90% of the people.


I agree, and that's why I weep for our future...
 
2012-10-11 02:18:16 PM

pute kisses like a man: I think it would, nonetheless, keep out 50% of the congresspeople from the science committee.


Well, if we assume congresscritters are roughly representative of the public as a whole, wouldn't it actually keep out about 90% of them?

/The cynic in me says they are, on average, actually stupider than the public, so it'd probably keep out closer to 99% of them...
 
2012-10-13 02:58:19 AM

coeyagi: IlGreven: coeyagi: F*cking HuffPo, you're about 35 Heinekens away from being Daily Kos. Clean it up.

...as liberal as DKos is, for some reason they seem far more journalistic than HuffPo. In fact, they seem far more journalistic than a majority of "journalism" sites out there. And this is a site with user contributed content.

I think the problem with Kos is that they have a few far left posters who go off the deep end and that hurts their credibility.


...of course, "the deepend far left" here is "centrist" to most of the rest of the world. That's the problem.
 
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