Great Porn Dragon: Also of neat note--GLP1 agonists are about the only class of drugs used in Type II diabetes that have found any sort of use in Type I diabetes (the nasty autoimmune type) in clinical trials--in essence, the glucagon regulation effects of GLP1 agonists enable Type I diabetics to use less insulin. Not a cure, but it does mean one has to fill up the insulin pump less frequently. :D)/Anyone who's considering lap band and at risk for Type II diabetes might wanna ask an endocrinologist re a trial of "lizard spit", just sayin'
Beanlet: At size 10, by today's standards, with the build that the beautiful Marilyn had, she would be considered too fat for the roles she played. Same with Jane Russell, same with most of those women.
Fark_Guy_Rob: I absolutely love how all the gastric bypass surgery does forcefully encourage people to eat less. And it's incredibly effective.You can get the same benefit, for free, by simply eating the same amount you'd eat if you'd had the surgery.But no, no, it's a medical condition and I've tried every diet and nothing works! Unless you cut out my stomach so I can't eat and am forced to follow a diet - then everything works great!
SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: I am actually running, so that makes me an actual runner.When you're not going any faster than the bulk of the walkers, you're not a runner. You're just walking the marathon with a slightly different gait.Striving for improved fitness is fantastic, but taking slots up in a marathon where you're just walking and then saying that you've run a marathon is disingenuous and ridiculous and not fair to the actual runners who aren't able to get a slot in the race because 1/4 of the people signed up for it are walking.Find a park with a few miles of trails, take a fanny pack with some gu and a sandwich, and go out there with a friend. Walk/trot it for 6 hours, and knock out your 26 miles that way. You've gotten the same distance, same benefits, and you haven't taken slots away from the runners. You can still tell people you've done a marathon.
CheetahOlivetti: I can tell people I've run a marathon. Because I've farking run one. And I raised $500 for Autism Speaks while doing it. And I'm going to do it again in January. I won't even take any space away from "actual runners" like you.
RobDownSouth: Well I use Mac/Linux...: These gastric bypass and lap band surgeries have to be the laziest shiat I've ever heard of. I can't stop gorging myself and can't be bothered with exercise, so let me have an operation to shrink my stomach so I no longer have to eat 8 servings before I feel full. fark all you lazy assholes that jack up people's health insurance because we have to pay for your fat asses.Insurance didn't pay for my bypass. I paid for it myself. Did a bit of medical tourism down to Tijuana Mexico, paid $4500 and spent 3 days recuperating.Insurance nowadays rarely covers gastric surgery, fark you very much.
Medic Zero: I partially blame whoever gave them the surgery for going ahead when they clearly hadn't "bought in" to what they needed to do.
CheetahOlivetti: Medic Zero: I partially blame whoever gave them the surgery for going ahead when they clearly hadn't "bought in" to what they needed to do.That does happen. A good surgeon at a Bariatric Center of Excellence won't do the surgery unless you've got a reasonably clean bill of health, including mental health. Mine required a check-in with a psychiatrist, plus six months of a diet and exercise program between the initial weigh-in and the surgery. They didn't expect a lot of weight loss during that time frame, but if you gain during that six months, you're out. They also test patients for nicotine before surgery. You've been smoking? Surgery cancelled. A Bariatric Center of Excellence will do everything they can to make sure a patient is both physically and mentally ready for the surgery and the restrictions you have to live with afterward.If you work in health care (obviously, Medic Zero), then you probably don't see all the patients who are doing what they're supposed to do and having the surgery work out well for them. I think there are quite a few of us. We're the ones who stop posting to the bariatric surgery forums after a year or so because we're busy living our lives.
dittybopper: Sybarite: If you're eating at the Golden Corral buffet, I'm pretty sure you haven't actually addressed the issues that made you fat in the first place.Not necessarily. Here is their everyday menu:Everyday Menu ItemsAssorted Steamed VegetablesAwesome Pot RoastBaked PotatoesBanana PuddingBourbon Street ChickenBroccoliCabbageCarrot CakeCarrotsCauliflowerChocolate Cake w/ Chocolate FrostingClam ChowderColeslawCornFresh fruitFried ChickenFudgy BrowniesGreen BeansGreensGrilled-to-order USDA Sirloin Steaks (*dinner only)Macaroni & CheeseMacaroni SaladMashed Potatoes & GravyMeatloafNo Sugar Added Chocolate PuddingPizzaPotato SaladRotisserie ChickenSeafood SaladSoft Serve Ice CreamSpaghettiSugar Free Red GelatinSweet PotatoesTimberline ChiliYeast Rolls50+ Toppings on our Fresh Cold Salad BarI bolded everything that is pretty much unequivocally healthy food, and yes that includes grilled red meat. You could eat "Lean and Green" at a Golden Corral quite easily. /Gave half-credit for the fresh cold salad bar, as some of it probably is good, and some bad.
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