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2012-10-10 02:47:06 PM
Oh also, if you eat "empty" calories you can put the weight on without even stretching the stomach back out.

Rule 1: Protien
Rule 2: veggies
Rule 3: Your full stop now
 
2012-10-10 02:47:53 PM
They should be forced to pay the same as everyone else. You know... to make up for all that time they were being undercharged as a fatty.
 
2012-10-10 02:51:38 PM

MikeyistheDevil:

In some cases, yes. With the surgery I had, there was a condition called "band migration" where your stomach would literally grow over the band, and push it inside. Usually passing harmlessly though your digestive system, but leaving your stomach like it was to begin with.


ew.

I'm not easily shuddery/creeped out, but I'm shuddery creeped out by that......
 
2012-10-10 02:59:46 PM

TNel: Reminds me of Shady Maple Smorgasbord's discounts:

Senior Discounts
Age 90 & Up = 50% discount off regular adult meal price.
Age 60 - 89 = 10% discount off regular adult meal price.

Gastric Bypass Surgery Policy
Year #1 - 50% off base price.
Year #2 - 10% off base price.
Year #3 - 0% off base price.
Incomplete Documentation - 0% off base price.
To receive the reduced price you must provide the following documentation!
Photo ID
Gastric Bypass Card with Patient Name and Date Of Original Surgery.


Was about to post this..first time I went there and saw this, I thought it was a joke.
\This place is the shiat, probably one of the best buffets in the country, but you can tell some things are starting to go downhill (still 50x better than a Golden Corral though)
\It's in bumblefark, PA (near Lancaster) so only get over there once or twice a year or so.
 
2012-10-10 03:02:19 PM

CheetahOlivetti: Yes, sadly. At some restaurants. I realize that I'm leaving myself open for all sorts of abuse, but I've had RNY gastric bypass (and I don't regret it one bit -- 100 pounds lighter and a marathon runner these days. There's more to the story, but that's the quick version.).


that is awesome- good job. i work in medicine, and work with a lot of post-op gastric bypass patients. i'm always happy when i see them later and they are doing well. congrats!!!
 
2012-10-10 03:04:56 PM
The simplest way to lose weight is burn more calories than you take in. It's tough though, because many times if you're not used to a "normal calorie diet", you find yourself hungry throughout the day. Simple remedy? Drink a little water when you're feeling hungry, many times hunger pangs are a sign that your body just needs hydration. I've lost 30 pounds this year just by watching what I eat and very light exercise, about 5-8 minutes every morning.
 
2012-10-10 03:05:04 PM
Gastric Bypass patient here - 4 years ago, 80 lbs total kept off. It was a lifesaver.

I will on occasion go to buffets for the variety now, even though I certainly can't come close to making it worth the money. When I see the amount that I eat now and compare it to the amount that my skinniest friends eat, I now realize that the only reason 100% of Americans aren't morbidly obese is just some freak of genetics. It isn't the fat people that are abnormal - it's the skinny ones that somehow eat what they do and aren't obese.

I didn't get one of these cards, but it might be worthwhile just to avoid wasting the amount of food that I end up throwing away.
 
2012-10-10 03:05:29 PM

CheetahOlivetti: mysticcat: So you have to have a note from your doctor to get a meal with a reasonable portion size?

Yes, sadly. At some restaurants. I realize that I'm leaving myself open for all sorts of abuse, but I've had RNY gastric bypass (and I don't regret it one bit -- 100 pounds lighter and a marathon runner these days. There's more to the story, but that's the quick version.).

Applebees does have a Weight Watchers menu with reasonable sizes, but what I usually do is just order what I actually want to eat, eat about 1/3, and my naturally skinny husband does his best to take up my slack.

I could get a card from my doc, but I don't eat out that often. And kids' menu items are usually horribly unhealthy anyway, so I don't see the point in using a card to order kid food.


Are you an actual marathon runner or just one of those people who goes out and pretty much just walks it in about 6 hours?

The Houston Marathon has become over-run with those people.
 
2012-10-10 03:08:20 PM

NCg8r: tapeworm-havin


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2012-10-10 03:11:53 PM

SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: mysticcat: So you have to have a note from your doctor to get a meal with a reasonable portion size?

Yes, sadly. At some restaurants. I realize that I'm leaving myself open for all sorts of abuse, but I've had RNY gastric bypass (and I don't regret it one bit -- 100 pounds lighter and a marathon runner these days. There's more to the story, but that's the quick version.).

Applebees does have a Weight Watchers menu with reasonable sizes, but what I usually do is just order what I actually want to eat, eat about 1/3, and my naturally skinny husband does his best to take up my slack.

I could get a card from my doc, but I don't eat out that often. And kids' menu items are usually horribly unhealthy anyway, so I don't see the point in using a card to order kid food.

Are you an actual marathon runner or just one of those people who goes out and pretty much just walks it in about 6 hours?

The Houston Marathon has become over-run with those people.


I run really slow, as slow as some of the walkers, but I run the whole way. I've run two half-marathons and a full marathon so far, and I'm training for another marathon now. I run 4-5 times a week and follow a training schedule. It takes me a long time, but I'm also 42 years old, a mom of three, and I was never athletically inclined, so I'm think I'm doing pretty good.

If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?
 
2012-10-10 03:12:48 PM
I bet if most people did the 3 following things, they'd find themselves losing weight gradually and in a healthy manner without being hungry:

1) Eat mostly protein, vegetables, and fruit. As a friend of mine who was a personal trainer commented, "if it comes in a bag or a box, don't eat it."

2) Exercise moderately to vigorously 3-4 times a week for 30 minutes.

3) Eat smaller meals, snack on something every 2-3 hours, and don't eat ANYTHING after dinner (or ~3 hours before bed). It's called break-FAST for a reason - you should be fasting for ~12 hours a day, with 8 of them being when you're asleep.

That's it. No need to blame your metabolism, count calories, or engage in yo-yo dieting. I've lost ~35 lbs in the last year by doing these three things, and I don't feel like I'm depriving myself of anything. I actually allow myself to eat ANYTHING I want all day on Satudays.
 
2012-10-10 03:13:09 PM

Beanlet: I am considered overweight for my height and have gotten comments about being a fatty (I am a size 12, marilyn monroe was a 14).


Women's clothing sizes were different back then.

Marilyn would be about a size 6 in today's clothing sizes.

Fat chicks do themselves no justice and sound ridiculous when they try to say that they've got the same body as Marilyn Monroe.
 
2012-10-10 03:16:28 PM

CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?


Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.
 
2012-10-10 03:18:55 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Obama4Life: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Obama4Life: Hebalo: Fark_Guy_Rob:
It's easy to say "stop eating things that are bad for you", but when the majority of the country is overweight to obese, it's clearly not working.

Now granted some obesity can be written off as genetics, but those people are the minority. Obesity can be controlled with diet and exercise, but most people don't want to put forth the effort

Sometimes, your location can make the diet part a little harder than I think it should be.

I just got back from a short vacation in a flyover state I'd never visited before. I was shocked at the menus at the local restaurants and the selection at the local markets. Iceberg lettuce and pink, artificially ripened tomatoes were the only non-fried vegetable options (I suppose I could've ordered the fried zucchini and removed the breading). Yes, they're probably responding to demand--and years of tradition and habits that are hard to break--but it creates a problem for those who do want to change their diets.

Anything can be done. It's just we're too busy looking for excuses, rather than options.

You're a troll. Got it. Moving on.


Why? For suggsting that people are responsible for their own actions?
 
2012-10-10 03:19:19 PM

SchlingFocker: Beanlet: I am considered overweight for my height and have gotten comments about being a fatty (I am a size 12, marilyn monroe was a 14).

Women's clothing sizes were different back then.

Marilyn would be about a size 6 in today's clothing sizes.

Fat chicks do themselves no justice and sound ridiculous when they try to say that they've got the same body as Marilyn Monroe.


Shape and frame mean much. Not saying they have the same body, merely giving a visual. A size 12 on a 5'3 girl is extremely different from a size 12 on a six foot tall girl.

If I was anorexic-skinny, I'd still not be able to fit in size 4 jeans. My bone structure wouldn't allow for it. I am built with huge, wide bones. I have linebacker shoulders.

And bullcrap it's a 6 these days. I'd say 10, maybe. In high school I weighed 135 at 5'9 and I was a size 8. I had very little fat on my frame. She was very curvy. Sizes may be different but not that drastically.
 
2012-10-10 03:19:55 PM

Helena Handbasket: Where is my discount for being healthfully thin and not eating nearly as much as the fatass at the next table over?


Hey, listen, seeing as how you're perfect, could you please, like, cure some cancer or something? I'm just sayin'.
 
2012-10-10 03:19:57 PM
South Park is looking more and more like a docudrama.
 
2012-10-10 03:20:16 PM

SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.


Houston isn't a major city.
 
2012-10-10 03:20:46 PM

sigdiamond2000: This article is further proof that the once noble American Experiment has failed, and serves as a reminder that I need to get my Canadian citizenship documents in order.


kristinhoppe.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-10 03:21:20 PM

SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.


Wow. Shouldn't you be proud of them for putting in the effort? Not everyone can run 26 miles and not break a sweat like you apparently can. And running marathons don't mean much when you do it once a month, dude, so why do you deserve that slot more than another? Someone has to come in last, and it's not a race, so really- why do you care?
 
2012-10-10 03:21:25 PM

big pig peaches: Well the veggies depend as a lot on how they are prepared, but rotisserie chicken is pretty horrifying. Unless you're doing the low carb thing, and then there is still some debate about how the chicken was raised.


A chicken is horrifying?
 
2012-10-10 03:22:36 PM

Obama4Life: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Obama4Life: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Obama4Life: Hebalo: Fark_Guy_Rob:
It's easy to say "stop eating things that are bad for you", but when the majority of the country is overweight to obese, it's clearly not working.

Now granted some obesity can be written off as genetics, but those people are the minority. Obesity can be controlled with diet and exercise, but most people don't want to put forth the effort

Sometimes, your location can make the diet part a little harder than I think it should be.

I just got back from a short vacation in a flyover state I'd never visited before. I was shocked at the menus at the local restaurants and the selection at the local markets. Iceberg lettuce and pink, artificially ripened tomatoes were the only non-fried vegetable options (I suppose I could've ordered the fried zucchini and removed the breading). Yes, they're probably responding to demand--and years of tradition and habits that are hard to break--but it creates a problem for those who do want to change their diets.

Anything can be done. It's just we're too busy looking for excuses, rather than options.

You're a troll. Got it. Moving on.

Why? For suggsting that people are responsible for their own actions?


Oooh man, this thread is just full of people who are perfect. I mean absolutely PERFECT. Never do anything at all wrong, ever. I mean, DAMN, I never knew so many of you existed!
 
2012-10-10 03:23:33 PM

Kit Fister: big pig peaches: Well the veggies depend as a lot on how they are prepared, but rotisserie chicken is pretty horrifying. Unless you're doing the low carb thing, and then there is still some debate about how the chicken was raised.

A chicken is horrifying?


A chicken doesn't even need a head to live, and how it was raised is, in any case, irrelevant to its nutritional content.
 
2012-10-10 03:27:15 PM

kiwimoogle84: SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.

Wow. Shouldn't you be proud of them for putting in the effort? Not everyone can run 26 miles and not break a sweat like you apparently can. And running marathons don't mean much when you do it once a month, dude, so why do you deserve that slot more than another? Someone has to come in last, and it's not a race, so really- why do you care?


proof that anyone can be a snob/dick/douchebag about anything
 
2012-10-10 03:28:52 PM

ghare: Obama4Life: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Obama4Life: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Obama4Life: Hebalo: Fark_Guy_Rob:
It's easy to say "stop eating things that are bad for you", but when the majority of the country is overweight to obese, it's clearly not working.

Now granted some obesity can be written off as genetics, but those people are the minority. Obesity can be controlled with diet and exercise, but most people don't want to put forth the effort

Sometimes, your location can make the diet part a little harder than I think it should be.

I just got back from a short vacation in a flyover state I'd never visited before. I was shocked at the menus at the local restaurants and the selection at the local markets. Iceberg lettuce and pink, artificially ripened tomatoes were the only non-fried vegetable options (I suppose I could've ordered the fried zucchini and removed the breading). Yes, they're probably responding to demand--and years of tradition and habits that are hard to break--but it creates a problem for those who do want to change their diets.

Anything can be done. It's just we're too busy looking for excuses, rather than options.

You're a troll. Got it. Moving on.

Why? For suggsting that people are responsible for their own actions?

Oooh man, this thread is just full of people who are perfect. I mean absolutely PERFECT. Never do anything at all wrong, ever. I mean, DAMN, I never knew so many of you existed!


That's not what we're saying. I've made MAJOR mistakes in my life (I'll spare you the CSS about dating an Air Force guy), but morbid obesity is very different from your run of the mill weight problem. I'm a few pounds heavy myself, but my choice to not eat fast food for breakfast every day helps a lot. It is really hard to get THAT fat, and takes a long time.
 
2012-10-10 03:29:02 PM

busy chillin': Mark Ratner: Hagbardr: Where is my discount for being rail thin and usually only able to finish half a regular restaurant portion?

They don't give out to discount cards to anorexic people.

/yeah, sure you have a high metabolism

You sound fat.

/yeah I called you fat, look at me I'm skinny


does it stop you from getting busy?
 
2012-10-10 03:29:18 PM

dittybopper: Not necessarily. Here is their everyday menu:


You left off brussels sprouts. They serve the best in town at the Corrals around these parts.

/maybe they only serve them on weekends, but they seem to be there whenever I go.
 
2012-10-10 03:32:20 PM

Kit Fister: big pig peaches: Well the veggies depend as a lot on how they are prepared, but rotisserie chicken is pretty horrifying. Unless you're doing the low carb thing, and then there is still some debate about how the chicken was raised.

A chicken is horrifying?


nonamedufus.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-10 03:36:43 PM

ScottRiqui: busy chillin': Mark Ratner: Hagbardr: Where is my discount for being rail thin and usually only able to finish half a regular restaurant portion?

They don't give out to discount cards to anorexic people.

/yeah, sure you have a high metabolism

You sound fat.

/yeah I called you fat, look at me I'm skinny

But has it ever stopped you from getting busy?


/shakes tiny impotent fist!
 
2012-10-10 03:37:25 PM

gretzkyscores: I bet if most people did the 3 following things, they'd find themselves losing weight gradually and in a healthy manner without being hungry:

1) Eat mostly protein, vegetables, and fruit. As a friend of mine who was a personal trainer commented, "if it comes in a bag or a box, don't eat it."

2) Exercise moderately to vigorously 3-4 times a week for 30 minutes.

3) Eat smaller meals, snack on something every 2-3 hours, and don't eat ANYTHING after dinner (or ~3 hours before bed). It's called break-FAST for a reason - you should be fasting for ~12 hours a day, with 8 of them being when you're asleep.

That's it. No need to blame your metabolism, count calories, or engage in yo-yo dieting. I've lost ~35 lbs in the last year by doing these three things, and I don't feel like I'm depriving myself of anything. I actually allow myself to eat ANYTHING I want all day on Satudays.


You're essentially on a low (or slow) carb diet. Of course you're going to lose weight.

I did the same thing, minus the excerise, 40lbs in 5 months. Limit or eliminate refined sugars, bread, etc, and you pretty much can't help but lose weight.
 
2012-10-10 03:38:01 PM

SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.


I am actually running, so that makes me an actual runner.

I'm not a professional level runner, and I probably never will be, but I love running, and I love the camaraderie of racing, even though I suck at it. Also, I'm running in the RnR Arizona marathon. I don't think they've ever run out of space for us slow-asses.

I always check the cut-off times before I register for a race, and I don't register for one where I'll end up being kicked out for being too slow. I'd like to run the Whiskey Row Marathon next year, I won't register until I know I can stay well ahead of the cut-off pace, especially considering that it's a hilly and difficult course.
 
2012-10-10 03:39:56 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Beanlet: And last, just because you are a skinny kid/teen/young adult, this does not mean you will remain skinny your whole life. And it is difficult to suddenly need to change a lifetime of habits. The person you judge may have been just as thin, or even more thin than you at one point. We don't need to be reminded to put down the fork. It doesn't help and just makes you look like a judgemental prick.

I'm in my mid-thirties; had always been (from 12yo on) a size 6-8 with nice curves to match, as soon as I hit 30yo I lost 25 pounds out of nowhere and now size 4s are a bit too comfy. My mother and older sisters did the same thing.

We're all different.


I hope you saw that I said exactly that in the part of my post that you didn't quote.
 
2012-10-10 03:40:16 PM

kiwimoogle84: but morbid obesity is very different from your run of the mill weight problem. I'm a few pounds heavy myself, but my choice to not eat fast food for breakfast every day helps a lot. It is really hard to get THAT fat, and takes a long time.


So let's stop dwelling on how it happened, can the name calling? The point being that it HAPPENS, and to a LOT of people these days. I never reached epic proportions, but when I started closing in on 230 (5'10), and hitting the gym was doing little or nothing, I decided to make the change.

If someone had explained the Insulinemic response to me 10 years ago, none of this would have been an issue. Now I know, and can lose weight when I choose.
 
2012-10-10 03:43:14 PM

Beanlet: I hope you saw that I said exactly that in the part of my post that you didn't quote.


Why ask that? Were you wanting an argument, or something?
 
2012-10-10 03:43:34 PM

Obama4Life: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Obama4Life: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Obama4Life: Hebalo: Fark_Guy_Rob:
It's easy to say "stop eating things that are bad for you", but when the majority of the country is overweight to obese, it's clearly not working.

Now granted some obesity can be written off as genetics, but those people are the minority. Obesity can be controlled with diet and exercise, but most people don't want to put forth the effort

Sometimes, your location can make the diet part a little harder than I think it should be.

I just got back from a short vacation in a flyover state I'd never visited before. I was shocked at the menus at the local restaurants and the selection at the local markets. Iceberg lettuce and pink, artificially ripened tomatoes were the only non-fried vegetable options (I suppose I could've ordered the fried zucchini and removed the breading). Yes, they're probably responding to demand--and years of tradition and habits that are hard to break--but it creates a problem for those who do want to change their diets.

Anything can be done. It's just we're too busy looking for excuses, rather than options.

You're a troll. Got it. Moving on.

Why? For suggsting that people are responsible for their own actions?


No, because you fail to see that life isn't always as simple as trite clichés like, "Anything can be done. It's just we're too busy looking for excuses, rather than options." make it seem. But since you came back, I'll remove the troll tag and elaborate my position.

I was talking about a rural area of Wisconsin, dominated by dairy cows, corn and soybean crops, and the occasional apple orchard. Options for increasing your vegetable intake included driving 45 minutes to LaCrosse or depending on farmer's markets. I didn't see any farmer's markets while I was there, but I assume that region has them. Based on the small sampling I saw while I was there, I wouldn't think the obesity rate was any higher than the national average, but changing your diet would probably mean moving.

If you live in a metropolitan area, or an area where vegetables are grown, it's much easier to switch to a healthy diet. But there are places where it's not so easy. That's my point. Your "anything can be done" reply just overlooks the issues I was talking about. And to bring it back to the article, even a Sizzler would've given the locals a big boost in food choices over the little bar & grill options I saw.
 
2012-10-10 03:43:51 PM

Beanlet: Long story, but I gained weight after the pregnancy, about 30 lbs, and haven't been able to lose it. I am considered overweight for my height and have gotten comments about being a fatty (I am a size 12, marilyn monroe was a 14).


I'm sure you're lovely (really, no sarcasm here), but about that ol' Marlyn Monroe was a size 14 thing...
 
2012-10-10 03:43:53 PM

CheetahOlivetti: SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.

I am actually running, so that makes me an actual runner.

I'm not a professional level runner, and I probably never will be, but I love running, and I love the camaraderie of racing, even though I suck at it. Also, I'm running in the RnR Arizona marathon. I don't think they've ever run out of space for us slow-asses.

I always check the cut-off times before I register for a race, and I don't register for one where I'll end up being kicked out for being too slow. I'd like to run the Whiskey Row Marathon next year, I won't register until I know I can stay well ahead of the cut-off pace, especially considering that it's a hilly and difficult course.


See, I wish I could. You're awesome. Running a marathon just will never be possible for me unless/until I get knee replacements. Yes, I'm 28. As Indy said, it's not the years, it's the mileage...After about one mile of running I hurt so badly I can't go down stairs the next day.

I have considered entering a team triathlon though. I could do the swimming portion.
 
2012-10-10 03:47:59 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.

Houston isn't a major city.


i lolled
 
2012-10-10 03:49:07 PM

Hebalo: kiwimoogle84: but morbid obesity is very different from your run of the mill weight problem. I'm a few pounds heavy myself, but my choice to not eat fast food for breakfast every day helps a lot. It is really hard to get THAT fat, and takes a long time.

So let's stop dwelling on how it happened, can the name calling? The point being that it HAPPENS, and to a LOT of people these days. I never reached epic proportions, but when I started closing in on 230 (5'10), and hitting the gym was doing little or nothing, I decided to make the change.

If someone had explained the Insulinemic response to me 10 years ago, none of this would have been an issue. Now I know, and can lose weight when I choose.


I didn't do ANY name calling. Morbid obesity is a legitimate medical term. It applies to those over 20% above their ideal BMI.

There's lots of reasons why it happens. Enabling, poor education, inefficient discipline, bad parenting, etc. Genes and even geographical location matter too. But you watch shows like Half Ton Teen, and don't you just wonder how a parent could let their child get to that point?
 
2012-10-10 03:49:51 PM
For those gals trying to compare themselves to Marilyn, here's a pretty good article...

For The Last Time: What Size Was Marilyn Monroe?

FTFA: Bust: 35-37 inches Waist: 22-23 inches Hips: 35-36 inches. In other words, whatever her size, her figure was an unusually dramatic hour-glass, which makes it kind of strange for women to compare themselves to her anyway. The better question is, why do we care? And what we're really talking about is not Marilyn Monroe's dress size: it's her sexiness. Marilyn Monroe was an icon, not of fashion, but of sexiness: a combination of her beauty, her obvious comfort with her physicality, her intelligence, and her vulnerability. Her dress size does not explain this, or give us a clue: she is iconic because she was unique, and no amount of arguing is going to change that.

So if you are chubby and want to look like her, better start corset training. Personality is another issue. Real life is not like the movies so we can't all expect ourselves to live like we are in a scripted tv or movie drama all the time. Those characters are made up by script writers.
 
2012-10-10 03:49:59 PM

Kit Fister: proof that anyone can be a snob/dick/douchebag about anything


Pretty common with the "Oh fatties are so stupid, everyone should be skinny like me!" crowd. People who are real proud and in your face about their weight are often that way because they've got nothing else going for them. Hence they get snobbish about things like running a marathon or the like. Despite their claim that everyone should be thin they don't actually want that because they like it as something they can brag on.
 
2012-10-10 03:51:43 PM

CheetahOlivetti: SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.

I am actually running, so that makes me an actual runner.

I'm not a professional level runner, and I probably never will be, but I love running, and I love the camaraderie of racing, even though I suck at it. Also, I'm running in the RnR Arizona marathon. I don't think they've ever run out of space for us slow-asses.

I always check the cut-off times before I register for a race, and I don't register for one where I'll end up being kicked out for being too slow. I'd like to run the Whiskey Row Marathon next year, I won't register until I know I can stay well ahead of the cut-off pace, especially considering that it's a hilly and difficult course.


Don't let the D-bags get you down. Running a marathon, no matter how slow, is a MAJOR accomplishement. Be proud and keep running. Soon enough you may not be running with the Kenyans, but you won't be worrying about the cut-off time either.

/mid-packer.
 
2012-10-10 03:52:23 PM
ftfa: Every year, hundreds of thousands of Americans turn to stomach-shrinking bariatric procedures, hoping for extreme weight loss.

Really, HUNDREDS of thousands ? per year ? OK. so we are at what 25% of the population by now ?
 
2012-10-10 03:56:23 PM

WeenerGord: For those gals trying to compare themselves to Marilyn, here's a pretty good article...

For The Last Time: What Size Was Marilyn Monroe?

FTFA: Bust: 35-37 inches Waist: 22-23 inches Hips: 35-36 inches. In other words, whatever her size, her figure was an unusually dramatic hour-glass, which makes it kind of strange for women to compare themselves to her anyway. The better question is, why do we care? And what we're really talking about is not Marilyn Monroe's dress size: it's her sexiness. Marilyn Monroe was an icon, not of fashion, but of sexiness: a combination of her beauty, her obvious comfort with her physicality, her intelligence, and her vulnerability. Her dress size does not explain this, or give us a clue: she is iconic because she was unique, and no amount of arguing is going to change that.

So if you are chubby and want to look like her, better start corset training. Personality is another issue. Real life is not like the movies so we can't all expect ourselves to live like we are in a scripted tv or movie drama all the time. Those characters are made up by script writers.


Interestingly enough, she would wear the same size bra/shirt as me, as well as the same pants size. Those are my hip and chest proportions, and I'm between a 10 and 12 now. I have a 28 inch waist, but it works for me.

So you kind of disproved yourself, because those hip and chest measurements support the thought that she'd be a 10-12. She just had an infinitely smaller waist, which can be achieved by wearing a size 12 dress and adding a belt.
 
2012-10-10 03:56:49 PM

Mimic_Octopus: ftfa: Every year, hundreds of thousands of Americans turn to stomach-shrinking bariatric procedures, hoping for extreme weight loss.

Really, HUNDREDS of thousands ? per year ? OK. so we are at what 25% of the population by now ?


Not sure if serious....

25% of US population would be about 75 million
 
2012-10-10 03:57:25 PM
also ftfa: retain their lost weight about 70 percent of the time

I thought the whole point was that it was physically impossible to eat enough to stay/get fat so you had to lose weight and keep it off. are these people int eh 30% failure crowd just eating nonstop all day and night or taking calorie IV or something ?
 
2012-10-10 03:58:01 PM
Going to an all-you-can-eat buffet after a gastric bypass is like going to an open bar after your Alcoholics Anonymous meeting.
 
2012-10-10 03:59:56 PM

CheetahOlivetti: SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.

I am actually running, so that makes me an actual runner.

I'm not a professional level runner, and I probably never will be, but I love running, and I love the camaraderie of racing, even though I suck at it. Also, I'm running in the RnR Arizona marathon. I don't think they've ever run out of space for us slow-asses.

I always check the cut-off times before I register for a race, and I don't register for one where I'll end up being kicked out for being too slow. I'd like to run the Whiskey Row Marathon next year, I won't register until I know I can stay well ahead of the cut-off pace, especially considering that it's a hilly and difficult course.


Just did the San Jose RNR Half. It was my first distance event but I had a blast! Loved the music along the way. Didn't need headphones :-)
 
2012-10-10 03:59:57 PM

kiwimoogle84: See, I wish I could. You're awesome. Running a marathon just will never be possible for me unless/until I get knee replacements. Yes, I'm 28. As Indy said, it's not the years, it's the mileage...After about one mile of running I hurt so badly I can't go down stairs the next day.

I have considered entering a team triathlon though. I could do the swimming portion.


Thank you so much! I'm really lucky that I've never had major knee problems. My left knee got a little squirrelly during a half-marathon last year, but I wore a brace for the full, and it was fine. I'm back to running without it now.

I do have back problems, but that's bothers me worse when I'm walking or standing than when I'm running. It's weird. You should do team triathlons. I have a friend who only does the biking portion. I wouldn't mind doing the swimming part, but I'm such a clumsy mess, I'm afraid I'd kill myself on the biking portion. :) I managed to trip over a tree branch and sprain my wrist while running a couple of weeks ago -- who knows what mayhem would ensue if I tried to race on a bike.
 
2012-10-10 04:01:45 PM

El Brujo: Mitch Taylor's Bro: SchlingFocker: CheetahOlivetti: If you're faster than that, you shouldn't be bothered by us. We're way in the back anyway, so what do you care?

Y'all take up limited slots that could be used by actual runners.

I wish the Houston Marathon required qualifying times in other, smaller marathons like other major cities.

Houston isn't a major city.

i lolled


;-)
 
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