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2012-10-10 01:16:49 PM
I understand this phenomenon, the whole "I don't want to pay $18 for twice as much food as I'll actually eat" thing, but there ARE options.

You can not fill up on free bread beforehand. Eat the veggies first. Save half for later. Split a plate with someone. Or just order a side of something. I do this a lot- order a side dinner salad and share an appetizer and call it dinner.

I think this is a bad idea. People who have had GP's shouldn't be eating at buffets. At ALL. And honestly, they can do any of the suggestions I've given above. If your stomach can only hold half a sandwich, then share a plate with someone! You don't need your own order!

Also, personal responsibility doesn't exist anymore. If you neglect your body to the point that walking 30 steps into the grocery store pains you, you shouldn't get handicap placards. Y'all need to walk. If you have a legit medical issue I understand, but a lot of people who are hugely obese blame a "thyroid problem" and yet proceed to eat two bags of McDonald's. I have no sympathy for you.

I'm positive some people here will think I'm trolling, but I'm not. As an ex EMT, I got more calls for shortness of breath for people who weighed twice what I do. I'm going, you know why you can't breathe? BECAUSE YOUR BLOAT IS CRUSHING YOUR LUNGS!

And don't get me started on the girlfriend of mine who complained she was fat but then proceeded to tell me she didn't like vegetables, and orders a "salad" with lettuce, bacon, crispy chicken, and five kinds of cheese, and drowns it in ranch dressing.

/ endrant
 
2012-10-10 01:18:15 PM
So all you guys with the surgery...when you can only eat a few ounces...do you still feel hungry?

Do you feel hungry, and frustrated that there is nothing you can do about it?

Or do you now feel full and satisfied after a couple ounces of food?
 
2012-10-10 01:18:23 PM

Hebalo: Fark_Guy_Rob:
It's easy to say "stop eating things that are bad for you", but when the majority of the country is overweight to obese, it's clearly not working.


Now granted some obesity can be written off as genetics, but those people are the minority. Obesity can be controlled with diet and exercise, but most people don't want to put forth the effort
 
2012-10-10 01:19:56 PM

sigdiamond2000: This article is further proof that the once noble American Experiment has failed, and serves as a reminder that I need to get my Canadian citizenship documents in order.


Actually, it proved it was a success, but this is the decline of things. Everything in this world, even abstract constructs, are subject to entropy, and in this case, Social Entropy. It's only natural that the 'American dream' we used to know no longer exists, now being replaced by a new one, and in a few generations this one will cease to exist only to be replaced by another social construct.
 
2012-10-10 01:20:00 PM

big pig peaches: Well the veggies depend as a lot on how they are prepared, but rotisserie chicken is pretty horrifying. Unless you're doing the low carb thing, and then there is still some debate about how the chicken was raised.


You sound Portlandian.
 
2012-10-10 01:21:26 PM

Amy78: I have a csb. Back in my teen years I worked at the local Golden Corral. Some lady wanted to pay the children's price because she had had the gastric bypass and couldn't eat as much as a normal adult. She had a doctor's note and everything. I told her no, but would get my manager to speak to her. She vowed to never enter that restaurant again.


I love customers like that. I'm sure you were ready to close down shop, because she wouldn't dine there

/Worked Customer Service for 15+ years and have heard it all
 
2012-10-10 01:21:39 PM

fireclown: big pig peaches: Well the veggies depend as a lot on how they are prepared, but rotisserie chicken is pretty horrifying. Unless you're doing the low carb thing, and then there is still some debate about how the chicken was raised.

You sound Portlandian.


I always heard that if you boil vegetables, you kill what's nutritious of them. That it's best to eat them raw (clean, of course), and with no dressing whatsoever.
 
2012-10-10 01:21:41 PM
Yawn....wake me when bars offer discounts for guys on waiting list for liver transplant.
 
2012-10-10 01:23:44 PM

CygnusDarius: fireclown: big pig peaches: Well the veggies depend as a lot on how they are prepared, but rotisserie chicken is pretty horrifying. Unless you're doing the low carb thing, and then there is still some debate about how the chicken was raised.

You sound Portlandian.

I always heard that if you boil vegetables, you kill what's nutritious of them. That it's best to eat them raw (clean, of course), and with no dressing whatsoever.


I've heard that too, I prefer to lightly steam. Keeps the nutrients in and helps someone like me who has had her jaw broken from unnecessary crunching. It's painful.
 
2012-10-10 01:23:56 PM

Obama4Life: Now granted some obesity can be written off as genetics, but those people are the minority. Obesity can be controlled with diet and exercise, but most people don't want to put forth the effort


Too easy. I mean, that's part of the answer, but it's too easy to say "Just go be thin". You're fighting society, your own brain, your predisposition to carbs (in essence, your brain).

I don't think the answer is legislation, but some independent nutritional research would be a good start. Tim Ferriss is launching something to that effect, which is promising.
 
2012-10-10 01:23:59 PM

CheetahOlivetti: mysticcat: So you have to have a note from your doctor to get a meal with a reasonable portion size?

Yes, sadly. At some restaurants. I realize that I'm leaving myself open for all sorts of abuse, but I've had RNY gastric bypass (and I don't regret it one bit -- 100 pounds lighter and a marathon runner these days. There's more to the story, but that's the quick version.).

Applebees does have a Weight Watchers menu with reasonable sizes, but what I usually do is just order what I actually want to eat, eat about 1/3, and my naturally skinny husband does his best to take up my slack.

I could get a card from my doc, but I don't eat out that often. And kids' menu items are usually horribly unhealthy anyway, so I don't see the point in using a card to order kid food.


On my phone, want to edit out all but the last paragraph but can't.. Came here to say this this this.

We either split an adult meal or ordered my daughter food from the ala carte menu if the restaurant would not serve her smaller portions of the adult menu. The children's menu at most places offer a corndog, a hamburger or breaded and deep fried fish parts. Or you could order some breakfast items, pancakes or scrambled eggs (many do not give you a written choice for other styles). A lot of places put junk on the panckaes, like whipped cream and even chocolate sauce.

Those foods, for a growing child.. yuck! For a bypass patient? Seems like all that grease and fat would be very uncomfortable to digest.

Btw, grats on your success! Nice to hear of a good outcome.
 
2012-10-10 01:25:27 PM

technicolor-misfit: NowhereMon: That's like giving an alcoholic free drinks in exchange for their AA medallions. Which a bar in here in Minneapolis did back in the day, they had a wall full of them.
Wow...That's some evil shiat... like "if Satan ran a bar" evil. I see Al Pacino pouring glowing amber shots in glistening glasses and chewing up the scenery shouting "Come on, fellas... I know you're thirsty. Drinks are on me. Don't fear it, master it... or ain't ya got no spine?"


Minneapolis. And when they become incapacitated, the bar just rolls them out in the snow to freeze to death. Take bets on when they stop breathing. Hahaahaha. Stupid alcoholics.
 
2012-10-10 01:26:54 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: You here FOUR HOUR!! Why you here four hour?! You scare my wife!! You reave now! You go!!"


You so beeeg! Why you eat spare rib? EAT VEGETABLE!
 
2012-10-10 01:27:04 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I absolutely love how all the gastric bypass surgery does forcefully encourage people to eat less. And it's incredibly effective.

You can get the same benefit, for free, by simply eating the same amount you'd eat if you'd had the surgery.

But no, no, it's a medical condition and I've tried every diet and nothing works! Unless you cut out my stomach so I can't eat and am forced to follow a diet - then everything works great!


Can't agree with the bolded part. I've seen quite a few failures in the ER and ICU.
 
2012-10-10 01:28:26 PM

WeenerGord: So all you guys with the surgery...when you can only eat a few ounces...do you still feel hungry?
Do you feel hungry, and frustrated that there is nothing you can do about it?
Or do you now feel full and satisfied after a couple ounces of food?


I don't feel hungry about 95% of the time after I eat. That's a huge improvement (pun intended).

The only frustration is being unable to eat AND drink at the same time...I have to wait 20 minutes after eating to drink anything, minimum. It's a re-learning process.

Interestingly, I really get annoyed/frustrated now that tailgating season is here, I feel the urge to gorge watching games and can't do that anymore.
 
2012-10-10 01:30:58 PM

Hebalo: Obama4Life: Now granted some obesity can be written off as genetics, but those people are the minority. Obesity can be controlled with diet and exercise, but most people don't want to put forth the effort

Too easy. I mean, that's part of the answer, but it's too easy to say "Just go be thin". You're fighting society, your own brain, your predisposition to carbs (in essence, your brain).

I don't think the answer is legislation, but some independent nutritional research would be a good start. Tim Ferriss is launching something to that effect, which is promising.


Oh I agree with that totally, and wish the schools would start to teach 'nutritional education' as a course (and I'm not just talking Home EC)
 
2012-10-10 01:31:26 PM

CygnusDarius: fireclown: big pig peaches: Well the veggies depend as a lot on how they are prepared, but rotisserie chicken is pretty horrifying. Unless you're doing the low carb thing, and then there is still some debate about how the chicken was raised.

You sound Portlandian.

I always heard that if you boil vegetables, you kill what's nutritious of them. That it's best to eat them raw (clean, of course), and with no dressing whatsoever.


That sounds horrifying!
 
2012-10-10 01:32:45 PM
CSB:

I know a guy who is an eating machine. I only see him at a Christmas dinner, where there is a lot of food. I don't think his arms ever stopped moving from table to mouth (except to put on the Santa suit for the wee ones). He wanted to get gastric bypass, but wouldn't go in for the mandatory counseling, and he was rejected. So he got a lap-band instead ( I guess the requirements are less stringent, or his doctor's name was Nick Riviera.)

I saw him the next Christmas. Still the same size. His arms were still moving, cramming food into his figgy-pudding-hole just like always, although I noticed a bead of sweat rolling down his temple. He was fighting that band with everything he had. I could just picture the tension on that lap-band, on the verge of snapping quite audibly to everyone in the room.

It was fascinating to watch his resolve to enjoy every morsel in the room.

/eat less, exercise more.
//worked for me.
///75lbs gone, running my second marathon next week.
 
2012-10-10 01:33:48 PM
I know we at Fark jump at the chance to make fun of the fatties, but the article makes clear that the discount card is for people who can't or don't want to eat a ton of food at all-you-can-eat-type places. So I don't see the problem. (shrug)

Don't you have a gym to get to, submitter?
 
2012-10-10 01:34:07 PM

Generation_D: You don't order as much food, or you don't eat everything they bring you and instead stop when you are supposed to.


If they knew how to do that they wouldn't be in any of these predicaments to begin with, now would they?
 
2012-10-10 01:34:56 PM
Rogers says it's OK for patients to use the WLS card and splurge at the buffet every once in a while, and the card also encourages them to order smaller meals at other restaurants.

No, it encourages their fat asses to keep going to the discount buffet.

Bulimia would be a better course for these people.
 
2012-10-10 01:36:08 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I know we at Fark jump at the chance to make fun of the fatties, but the article makes clear that the discount card is for people who can't or don't want to eat a ton of food at all-you-can-eat-type places. So I don't see the problem. (shrug)

Don't you have a gym to get to, submitter?


But why would a person who has had weight loss surgery go to a buffet? And they can split plates or order smaller things already. I don't see why this is necessary.
 
2012-10-10 01:37:18 PM

Mark Ratner: Hagbardr: Where is my discount for being rail thin and usually only able to finish half a regular restaurant portion?

They don't give out to discount cards to anorexic people.

/yeah, sure you have a high metabolism


Yep. You nailed it. Everyone who's thin is anorexic.
 
2012-10-10 01:37:22 PM

CygnusDarius: fireclown: big pig peaches: Well the veggies depend as a lot on how they are prepared, but rotisserie chicken is pretty horrifying. Unless you're doing the low carb thing, and then there is still some debate about how the chicken was raised.

You sound Portlandian.

I always heard that if you boil vegetables, you kill what's nutritious of them. That it's best to eat them raw (clean, of course), and with no dressing whatsoever.


Yes, cooking stuff has completely removed all the nutrition. That's why the human race died out long ago.
 
2012-10-10 01:37:34 PM

Medic Zero: Fark_Guy_Rob: I absolutely love how all the gastric bypass surgery does forcefully encourage people to eat less. And it's incredibly effective.

You can get the same benefit, for free, by simply eating the same amount you'd eat if you'd had the surgery.

But no, no, it's a medical condition and I've tried every diet and nothing works! Unless you cut out my stomach so I can't eat and am forced to follow a diet - then everything works great!

Can't agree with the bolded part. I've seen quite a few failures in the ER and ICU.



What kind of failures? Infections? or ruptures from gorging?
 
2012-10-10 01:38:04 PM

Obama4Life: Hebalo: Fark_Guy_Rob:
It's easy to say "stop eating things that are bad for you", but when the majority of the country is overweight to obese, it's clearly not working.

Now granted some obesity can be written off as genetics, but those people are the minority. Obesity can be controlled with diet and exercise, but most people don't want to put forth the effort


Sometimes, your location can make the diet part a little harder than I think it should be.

I just got back from a short vacation in a flyover state I'd never visited before. I was shocked at the menus at the local restaurants and the selection at the local markets. Iceberg lettuce and pink, artificially ripened tomatoes were the only non-fried vegetable options (I suppose I could've ordered the fried zucchini and removed the breading). Yes, they're probably responding to demand--and years of tradition and habits that are hard to break--but it creates a problem for those who do want to change their diets.
 
2012-10-10 01:39:06 PM

kiwimoogle84: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I know we at Fark jump at the chance to make fun of the fatties, but the article makes clear that the discount card is for people who can't or don't want to eat a ton of food at all-you-can-eat-type places. So I don't see the problem. (shrug)

Don't you have a gym to get to, submitter?

But why would a person who has had weight loss surgery go to a buffet? And they can split plates or order smaller things already. I don't see why this is necessary.


I dunno. Maybe other family member just HAVE to go to Golden Corral or wherever. I think it's like accompanying an alcoholic to a bar so he/she can drink soda all night, but then, I try to be logical. Not everybody can be super-awesome like me.
 
2012-10-10 01:39:10 PM
These gastric bypass and lap band surgeries have to be the laziest shiat I've ever heard of. I can't stop gorging myself and can't be bothered with exercise, so let me have an operation to shrink my stomach so I no longer have to eat 8 servings before I feel full. fark all you lazy assholes that jack up people's health insurance because we have to pay for your fat asses.
 
2012-10-10 01:41:35 PM

RobDownSouth: WeenerGord: So all you guys with the surgery...when you can only eat a few ounces...do you still feel hungry?
Do you feel hungry, and frustrated that there is nothing you can do about it?
Or do you now feel full and satisfied after a couple ounces of food?

I don't feel hungry about 95% of the time after I eat. That's a huge improvement (pun intended).

The only frustration is being unable to eat AND drink at the same time...I have to wait 20 minutes after eating to drink anything, minimum. It's a re-learning process.

Interestingly, I really get annoyed/frustrated now that tailgating season is here, I feel the urge to gorge watching games and can't do that anymore.


Just adding to the "what hunger feels like" question: The hunger feeling is different. It used to be "holy crap, need food now", and it wasn't satiated until my stomach was full. Now I don't have much of a stomach, so it took a while to be able to sense what "full" means now. I found out the hard way when I upchucked some tuna a few weeks after surgery. Yuck. Hunger is more like: "Running low, time to refuel."

It's been almost 2 years, so now I just judge by portion size. I know how much I can eat of pretty much any food (prioritizing protein and minimizing carbs), and I can still have treats once in a while. The memory of how horrible dumping syndrome is keeps me from overdoing it.

One Oreo as a treat: OK. Three Oreos: I'm gonna die. Half a Starbucks strawberry smoothie and give the rest to my kid: OK. Half a small McDonald's shake: I'm *really* gonna die.
 
2012-10-10 01:42:56 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Mark Ratner: Hagbardr: Where is my discount for being rail thin and usually only able to finish half a regular restaurant portion?

They don't give out to discount cards to anorexic people.

/yeah, sure you have a high metabolism

Yep. You nailed it. Everyone who's thin is anorexic.


Mr. Kiwi is a perfect example. He's rail thin. 6 feet, 155ish. Narrow shoulders. He wears one pants size smaller than I do. I've seen him put away two racks of ribs before. And it has nothing to do with youth or growing, he's 40.

People of all shapes, sizes and metabolisms exist. Frames have a lot to do with it too. I'm two inches shorter than Mr Kiwi and my shoulders are broader.

I'm saying you can't get to MORBID obesity without horrific diet neglect or a serious medical issue. I'm not in perfect shape myself but I also grab baskets at the store so I have to carry the weight, I park far away, and I stop eating when I'm not hungry anymore, not when the plate is empty. I ain't a 17 year old athlete anymore.
 
2012-10-10 01:44:05 PM
Ride your bike an hour a day/4-5 days a week.
No fast food.
No sodas (except after a pounding 1.5 hour ride)
Don't eat pre-prepared food.

There. Problem solved.
 
2012-10-10 01:44:20 PM

ScottRiqui: busy chillin': Mark Ratner: Hagbardr: Where is my discount for being rail thin and usually only able to finish half a regular restaurant portion?

They don't give out to discount cards to anorexic people.

/yeah, sure you have a high metabolism

You sound fat.

/yeah I called you fat, look at me I'm skinny

But has it ever stopped you from getting busy?


Nope. I'm a freak
I like the girls with the boom
I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom
 
2012-10-10 01:44:39 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: kiwimoogle84: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I know we at Fark jump at the chance to make fun of the fatties, but the article makes clear that the discount card is for people who can't or don't want to eat a ton of food at all-you-can-eat-type places. So I don't see the problem. (shrug)

Don't you have a gym to get to, submitter?

But why would a person who has had weight loss surgery go to a buffet? And they can split plates or order smaller things already. I don't see why this is necessary.

I dunno. Maybe other family member just HAVE to go to Golden Corral or wherever. I think it's like accompanying an alcoholic to a bar so he/she can drink soda all night, but then, I try to be logical. Not everybody can be super-awesome like me.


I had you favorited long ago. You're rational. I like it. Keep it up.
 
2012-10-10 01:45:13 PM

CygnusDarius: I always heard that if you boil vegetables, you kill what's nutritious of them. That it's best to eat them raw (clean, of course), and with no dressing whatsoever.


My raw foods vegan sister tried to hoist that one on me, too.
 
2012-10-10 01:45:51 PM
Reminds me of Shady Maple Smorgasbord's discounts:

Senior Discounts
Age 90 & Up = 50% discount off regular adult meal price.
Age 60 - 89 = 10% discount off regular adult meal price.

Gastric Bypass Surgery Policy
Year #1 - 50% off base price.
Year #2 - 10% off base price.
Year #3 - 0% off base price.
Incomplete Documentation - 0% off base price.
To receive the reduced price you must provide the following documentation!
Photo ID
Gastric Bypass Card with Patient Name and Date Of Original Surgery.
Proof of Surgery via a Doctors Signature or other Documentation.
NOTE: This policy is intended as a short-term price adjustment to accomodate a person whose intake is limited due to gastric bypass surgery.

Link

They do have some good food though.
 
2012-10-10 01:46:09 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: These gastric bypass and lap band surgeries have to be the laziest shiat I've ever heard of. I can't stop gorging myself and can't be bothered with exercise, so let me have an operation to shrink my stomach so I no longer have to eat 8 servings before I feel full. fark all you lazy assholes that jack up people's health insurance because we have to pay for your fat asses.


I thought this was a net positive for health insurance because most of these people do lose weight and don't get the weight-related diseases later in life?
 
2012-10-10 01:46:21 PM

kiwimoogle84: But why would a person who has had weight loss surgery go to a buffet? And they can split plates or order smaller things already. I don't see why this is necessary.


We have families, for one thing. Families like to do stuff together like eat out, and we sometimes let the kids pick the restaurant.

And I invite you to try and "split plates" at a buffet sometime. Let us know how that works for you.
 
2012-10-10 01:46:30 PM
FTFA: "Even "all-you-can-eat" buffet restaurant Golden Corral provides a discounted buffet price upon seeing a proof-of-surgery card in some locations."

If you got a bypass surgery..., what in the world is taking you back to Golden Corral, where you got that big fat ass, to begin with???

Lack of responsibility of the consequences of your own acts. In a nutshell, that's the problem with society nowadays...
 
2012-10-10 01:48:29 PM

dittybopper: Greens
I bolded everything that is pretty much unequivocally healthy food, and yes that includes grilled red meat. You could eat "Lean and Green" at a Golden Corral quite easily. 



I see you're not from the south. Greens = regular collard or kale greens, cooked with fat back, and then somothered in vinegar and salt/pepper.

It was healthy before it was cooked, now....not so much
 
2012-10-10 01:48:56 PM

kiwimoogle84: People of all shapes, sizes and metabolisms exist.


Exactly. I'm tiny yet eat practically anything I want. It does help that I've never been a fan of processed sugars, however.
 
2012-10-10 01:49:09 PM
The trick with the gastric bypass is to train yourself ahead of the surgery for three months, gradually reducing your portions to what you'll be forced to eating after the surgery. Then don't have the surgery.
 
2012-10-10 01:49:12 PM

RobDownSouth: kiwimoogle84: But why would a person who has had weight loss surgery go to a buffet? And they can split plates or order smaller things already. I don't see why this is necessary.

We have families, for one thing. Families like to do stuff together like eat out, and we sometimes let the kids pick the restaurant.


Tell them no buffets, because they're bad for daddy. Don't ever blame your kids for anything, you're in charge.
 
2012-10-10 01:49:56 PM

RobDownSouth: kiwimoogle84: But why would a person who has had weight loss surgery go to a buffet? And they can split plates or order smaller things already. I don't see why this is necessary.

We have families, for one thing. Families like to do stuff together like eat out, and we sometimes let the kids pick the restaurant.

And I invite you to try and "split plates" at a buffet sometime. Let us know how that works for you.


Sizzler was the example provided. Sizzler has a menu.
 
2012-10-10 01:50:40 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: These gastric bypass and lap band surgeries have to be the laziest shiat I've ever heard of. I can't stop gorging myself and can't be bothered with exercise, so let me have an operation to shrink my stomach so I no longer have to eat 8 servings before I feel full. fark all you lazy assholes that jack up people's health insurance because we have to pay for your fat asses.


Insurance didn't pay for my bypass. I paid for it myself. Did a bit of medical tourism down to Tijuana Mexico, paid $4500 and spent 3 days recuperating.

Insurance nowadays rarely covers gastric surgery, fark you very much.
 
2012-10-10 01:52:28 PM
"Bring me my ranch dressing hose!"


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2012-10-10 01:52:55 PM

kiwimoogle84: Also, personal responsibility doesn't exist anymore. If you neglect your body to the point that walking 30 steps into the grocery store pains you, you shouldn't get handicap placards. Y'all need to walk. If you have a legit medical issue I understand, but a lot of people who are hugely obese blame a "thyroid problem" and yet proceed to eat two bags of McDonald's. I have no sympathy for you.

I'm positive some people here will think I'm trolling, but I'm not. As an ex EMT, I got more calls for shortness of breath for people who weighed twice what I do. I'm going, you know why you can't breathe? BECAUSE YOUR BLOAT IS CRUSHING YOUR LUNGS!


I don't know how old you are, but I'm in my mid-forties. When I was a kid in the seventies, you rarely saw really obese people (by that I mean over 250 pounds). Now? They're everywhere. Hell, I work with about ten people who weigh over 300, and out of those there's three that have to be close to 400 and one guy who amazes me that he can even move. Watch one of those shows with enormously fat people and look at what they're eating. Pizza. Chips. Cake. Cookies. Candy. Potatoes. If they're eating meat, it's on a bun, battered and/or breaded. They're not powering down a side of beef. There is more and more evidence that sugar is just as addictive as drugs and alcohol if you have that propensity. And sugar and starch is in EVERY processed food. But it's much easier to grab McDonald's or a frozen pizza or go out to Golden Corral than to actually, you know, cook.
 
2012-10-10 01:53:41 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Well I use Mac/Linux...: These gastric bypass and lap band surgeries have to be the laziest shiat I've ever heard of. I can't stop gorging myself and can't be bothered with exercise, so let me have an operation to shrink my stomach so I no longer have to eat 8 servings before I feel full. fark all you lazy assholes that jack up people's health insurance because we have to pay for your fat asses.

I thought this was a net positive for health insurance because most of these people do lose weight and don't get the weight-related diseases later in life?


It is. That's why more insurance companies are covering it. Mine covered it 100%. I'm sure it's cheaper to cover one surgery than a lifetime of Metformin, insulin, diabetic wound care, canes, walkers, scooters, heart problems, clogged arteries, and sleep apnea.
 
2012-10-10 01:53:42 PM
This just highlights the fact that the restaurant industry in America - not just fast food even - is largely responsible for obesity in America. We've been trained to demand quantity instead of quality. To get a normal portion for a lower price, you have to have a note from your doctor.
 
2012-10-10 01:54:14 PM
My csb..

When I was young, I was too thin. Not by choice, I ate evrything in sight and then some. I could eat two macho burritos from Del Taco, made boyfriends jealous, made women say I must be purging. After I had my first child, I lost the weight immediately (had gained over 65lbs), same with the second.

Had a third child in my 30s, metabolism slowed down, had a lot of medical issues. I didn't gain weight well with her, but developed diabetes, dr said that may have saved the little one's life, more nutrition for her.

Long story, but I gained weight after the pregnancy, about 30 lbs, and haven't been able to lose it. I am considered overweight for my height and have gotten comments about being a fatty (I am a size 12, marilyn monroe was a 14).

Reason I post this.. I have been on both sides of this issue and know it isn't as simple as a lot of people believe. Putting down the fork is not everyone's problem, even if it is some people's. We come in all shapes and sizes, we all have different metabolisms. Eating the exact same amount I did when I was in my early 30s would have me tipping the "omg, let's cut out the wall to get her out of the house" scale.

And last, just because you are a skinny kid/teen/young adult, this does not mean you will remain skinny your whole life. And it is difficult to suddenly need to change a lifetime of habits. The person you judge may have been just as thin, or even more thin than you at one point. We don't need to be reminded to put down the fork. It doesn't help and just makes you look like a judgemental prick.

/yes, I sound fat.
//doesn't eat at all you can eat places because I don't eat enough to justify the cost.
 
2012-10-10 01:54:30 PM

HotWingConspiracy: RobDownSouth: kiwimoogle84: But why would a person who has had weight loss surgery go to a buffet? And they can split plates or order smaller things already. I don't see why this is necessary.

We have families, for one thing. Families like to do stuff together like eat out, and we sometimes let the kids pick the restaurant.

Tell them no buffets, because they're bad for daddy. Don't ever blame your kids for anything, you're in charge.


I'm not blaming my kids for anything. And truthfully, the bottom line is we're talking about a $2 discount here.
 
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