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2012-10-10 12:03:46 PM

rudemix: Who is to say these guys aren't just shrugging off long standing public freak out of 'ERMAGERHD TEHYRE GAY' because they aren't and if they were it wouldn't matter anyway?


This

As shocking as it may seem, some guys are pretty secure in their heterosexuality.
 
2012-10-10 12:05:10 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
Rub-a-dub-dub!
 
2012-10-10 12:06:26 PM
FTA:

DEAR STUMPED: ......Is it possible that they take after their mother?



Um, does she mean "take after" as in "like weeners too"?
 
2012-10-10 12:08:14 PM
I've known women who do this, but then again "bi" is the default sexual orientation for most women, so it was just presumed they were enjoying one another.

Men?

Gay as the day is long.
 
2012-10-10 12:08:40 PM
Dear stumped:

I understand your concern about your son and his friends showering together. You are right to be upset. No group of boys deserve to be showing together in such cramped quarters. Might I suggest that you ask you son and friends to perhaps shower at the local YMCA instead. Or even after a particularly splendid game, they could even indulge themselves at a Turkish bathhouse.
 
2012-10-10 12:09:42 PM

SueDisco: I have two adult (27ish) male friends who do this, both straight. They've been friends since middle school, and have been showering together a long time. When questioned, they look at us like we're the ones who are completely crazy. One explained it as a holdover from his days as a college soccer player, but I would think that's more of a large group shower thing, not a "Hey, let's jump in this normal sized shower together." They've jumped in the shower (and the tub) together on large group trips as well. Just like the article, we can hear them laughing and chatting in there.

None of us can wrap our heads around it.


But your lips...well, that's another story.
 
2012-10-10 12:11:21 PM
Whether or not your school culture in America dictated group showers after gym class probably has to do more with the relative stigma attached to being uncircumcized than anything else.
 
2012-10-10 12:13:31 PM

Jument: I'm not going to RTFA because my first thought was that the kids in question were female and I don't want to ruin the fantasy.

/for guys it's completely 100% gay, yeah
//gayer than gay
///maximal gayness


Fark headline: "Dear Abby: Should I be worried that my teenage sons enjoy taking group showers with their friends?"

You have a really lax definition of the word "son," don't you?
 
2012-10-10 12:14:33 PM

BullBearMS: Weird things happen when young people grow up with the attitude that "If I were gay, I'd come right out and say it, cause it's not that big a deal."

Well, weird for those of us who grew up worried that someone might think we were gay.


If you grew up worrying that someone might think you're gay... maybe it's because you're gay - and still in the closet.
 
2012-10-10 12:14:39 PM

CheekyMonkey: WHY DO ALL THESE HOMESEXUALS KEEP SUCKING MY COCK?


Have you even started to visualize these repulsive cock-sucking episodes during the healthy, heterosexual marital relations you enjoy with your wife-even some that haven't actually happened?

Like a sweaty, post-game locker-room tryst with Vancouver Canucks forward Mark Messier that you can't seem to stop thinking about?
 
2012-10-10 12:14:43 PM
FTFA:
"Is it possible they take after their mother"

Abby,
Yes! In fact, it is likely. She seems to enjoy showering in a group of young, teenage boys as well. Thank you for clearing this up.

-stumped
 
2012-10-10 12:15:11 PM

GranoblasticMan: Jument: I'm not going to RTFA because my first thought was that the kids in question were female and I don't want to ruin the fantasy.

/for guys it's completely 100% gay, yeah
//gayer than gay
///maximal gayness

Fark headline: "Dear Abby: Should I be worried that my teenage sons enjoy taking group showers with their friends?"

You have a really lax definition of the word "son," don't you?


Sometimes the mind only sees what it wants to.
 
2012-10-10 12:15:15 PM
You can't really say that you are a straight male that is comfortable with your own sexuality unless you can suck off a guy and just shrug it off
 
2012-10-10 12:15:40 PM

Cythraul: It's a family guy reference of an elderly gay man telling a young kid about all the games they played in 'his day'


i have come around to agree with Gore Vidal on the topic/word gay...



Actually, there is no such thing as a homosexual person, any more than there is such a thing as a heterosexual person. The words are adjectives describing sexual acts, not people. The sexual acts are entirely normal; if they were not, no one would perform them.
 
2012-10-10 12:16:04 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Whether or not your school culture in America dictated group showers after gym class probably has to do more with the relative stigma attached to being uncircumcized than anything else.


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2012-10-10 12:17:23 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Whether or not your school culture in America dictated group showers after gym class probably has to do more with the relative stigma attached to being uncircumcized than anything else.


www.reactionface.info
 
2012-10-10 12:17:56 PM

Mark Ratner: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Whether or not your school culture in America dictated group showers after gym class probably has to do more with the relative stigma attached to being uncircumcized than anything else.

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"A taste like roasted corn." Well, that answers that question.
 
2012-10-10 12:18:54 PM

topcon: I played football for one year in highschool (1990's,) no one ever got a shower afterward, you waited until you got home.. I was in many, many gym classes, and no one ever got showers then, either. I used to go running with friends, or playing raquetball...we never had a group shower.

There's no way that's typical. I'd almost think the letter is fake. Heterosexual male teenagers aren't taking showers with each other at home, in a home-style shower. In my personal experience, as stated above, I never even saw anyone using proper group showers together.

And anyone who goes to a public gym knows, speaking as a male, anyway...who is the one group of people who are always naked in the bathroom? SENIOR CITIZENS. Even when changing stalls are available, like at the gym I go to, and used by everyone else, 75 year old dudes will walk around the bathroom naked. They're literally the only ones that do.


i441.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-10 12:19:43 PM

billybobtoo: i have come around to agree with Gore Vidal on the topic/word gay...

Actually, there is no such thing as a homosexual person, any more than there is such a thing as a heterosexual person. The words are adjectives describing sexual acts, not people. The sexual acts are entirely normal; if they were not, no one would perform them.


Yeah, I can't really agree with that because it's too easily extrapolated to include eating human flesh white/after slaughtering and having sex with their corpse.
 
2012-10-10 12:21:20 PM

URAPNIS: GranoblasticMan: Jument: I'm not going to RTFA because my first thought was that the kids in question were female and I don't want to ruin the fantasy.

/for guys it's completely 100% gay, yeah
//gayer than gay
///maximal gayness

Fark headline: "Dear Abby: Should I be worried that my teenage sons enjoy taking group showers with their friends?"

You have a really lax definition of the word "son," don't you?

Sometimes the mind only sees what it wants to.


Aye, my mind saw "teenage" and "group showers" and promptly tuned out.
 
2012-10-10 12:21:24 PM

PallMall: BullBearMS: Weird things happen when young people grow up with the attitude that "If I were gay, I'd come right out and say it, cause it's not that big a deal."

Well, weird for those of us who grew up worried that someone might think we were gay.

If you grew up worrying that someone might think you're gay... maybe it's because you're gay - and still in the closet.


Well, research has shown that the homophobic "straight" guys are the ones whose wieners chub up when shown gay porn.

It's the non-homophobic straight guys who are unexcited by it.

One study asked heterosexual men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups: men that are homophobic, and men who are not. These men were then shown three, four-minute videos.

When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal.

Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise.
 

As I've mentioned before, some guys are pretty secure in their heterosexuality.
 
2012-10-10 12:22:08 PM

Generation_D: I swear they make these letters up. Or the public does, to troll and get theirs in the paper / on the website.


My goal is to get the most asinine question ever published in the front of Parade magazine

I dream big!
 
2012-10-10 12:22:31 PM
This new Dear Abby is a complete dolt who seems to get trolled all the time. No one does that, and if they did, no, it's not appropriate.

While we laugh and giggle at the thought, and say we would high-five our studly offspring, would it be a good idea to encourage your son, his friend, and their girlfriends to shower together? Not really.

Even without the gay thing, or the straight sex thing, this weird behavior leads to knowing no boundaries and results in those bizarre "Hey, let's haze the the new guy and shove a lamp up his ass" stories that pop up now and then after a drunken college party.
 
2012-10-10 12:23:17 PM

Mose: SDRR: GAT_00: I'm pretty sure if I was gay I'd be fapping to this thread.

I'm not gay, but what the fark, right?

Sometimes, I wish I was.


www.nypost.com

They have parades! Nobody's holding a parade for how I get laid.
 
2012-10-10 12:25:35 PM

Rufus Lee King: "What's that, Sheridan? You need a pair of silk pajamas to match your friend Tarquin's?"


THIS
 
2012-10-10 12:29:42 PM

billybobtoo: The sexual acts are entirely normal; if they were not, no one would perform them.


there's a hole in the logic....
but I'm having trouble seeing it over the sound of a guy being perfectly normal with a week dead dog in front of a daycare...
 
2012-10-10 12:30:49 PM

fickenchucker: Even without the gay thing, or the straight sex thing, this weird behavior leads to knowing no boundaries and results in those bizarre "Hey, let's haze the the new guy and shove a lamp up his ass" stories that pop up now and then after a drunken college party.


To be fair, that night started off as only a "Hey, let's haze the the new guy and shove a lamp half way up his ass" night.
 
2012-10-10 12:30:55 PM

BullBearMS: Well, research has shown that the homophobic "straight" guys are the ones whose wieners chub up when shown gay porn.

It's the non-homophobic straight guys who are unexcited by it.

One study asked heterosexual men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups: men that are homophobic, and men who are not. These men were then shown three, four-minute videos.

When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal.

Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise. 

As I've mentioned before, some guys are pretty secure in their heterosexuality.


No need to defend yourself to me, you can pretend to be straight all you want.
 
2012-10-10 12:31:03 PM
There is nothing normal about this.......
 
2012-10-10 12:32:48 PM

stonicus: I wonder about the legality of it all... he admits he has one son who is 17 and one who is 18.
If any of the friends are 18+, then they're a naked adult showering with a naked minor (the 17 year old). If all the friends are 17 or less, than the 18 year old brother is guilty of being naked with a naked minor. This all sounds highly illegal.


Actually what you describe perfectly sums up why the law is terrible. If a 17 year old boy and an 18 year old boy want to fark then they shouldn't be leaving broken laws in their wake.
 
2012-10-10 12:33:16 PM

trappedspirit: fickenchucker: Even without the gay thing, or the straight sex thing, this weird behavior leads to knowing no boundaries and results in those bizarre "Hey, let's haze the the new guy and shove a lamp up his ass" stories that pop up now and then after a drunken college party.

To be fair, that night started off as only a "Hey, let's haze the the new guy and shove a lamp half way up his ass" night.


the thing about a lamp is, one you get half way there, the tough part is over.
especially with a fluorescent O_o
 
2012-10-10 12:36:55 PM

umad: Gay or straight, this guy's kids are farking weirdos.


Yeah, I think that's about right.

In college, a clique of the athletic guys on my dorm floor had a game where they would sneak into the showers when each other were using them and spank the shower-er with a paddle. I'm pretty sure all of them were straight, but it was weird thing to do.

Coming in last at Mario Kart for the gamecube would earn you a bare bottom spanking as well. I never got one cuz I was surgical with my green shells.
 
2012-10-10 12:37:42 PM

Shazam999: umad: There is a small difference between four dudes using four seperate showers and four dudes cramming themselves into a bathtub to share the same one. Gay or straight, this guy's kids are farking weirdos.

My sister and her friends used to do this too. I think she was bi-curious but she told me later on that she is flat out straight.


Don't leave us hanging we need more details here.

And this thread proves how much of a god Pocket Ninja is.
 
2012-10-10 12:43:08 PM

topcon: I played football for one year in highschool (1990's,) no one ever got a shower afterward, you waited until you got home.. I was in many, many gym classes, and no one ever got showers then, either. I used to go running with friends, or playing raquetball...we never had a group shower.

There's no way that's typical. I'd almost think the letter is fake. Heterosexual male teenagers aren't taking showers with each other at home, in a home-style shower. In my personal experience, as stated above, I never even saw anyone using proper group showers together.

And anyone who goes to a public gym knows, speaking as a male, anyway...who is the one group of people who are always naked in the bathroom? SENIOR CITIZENS. Even when changing stalls are available, like at the gym I go to, and used by everyone else, 75 year old dudes will walk around the bathroom naked. They're literally the only ones that do.


themetapicture.com
 
2012-10-10 12:45:03 PM
is there also a girl and a glass of milk? because then that's just weird.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-10 12:46:46 PM
i262.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-10 12:47:58 PM

Mark Ratner: They also "air dry" after showers by walking around in towels. While I'm glad they are comfortable with their bodies and who they are, it still bothers me somewhat. Am I being a prude in thinking this is unusual or inappropriate?

No dude. Totally normal and not gay at all. nttawwt
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Just like this movie is not gay at all whatsoever


Fighter Weapons School?
really?
Really?
 
2012-10-10 12:53:22 PM

BullBearMS: CheekyMonkey: WHY DO ALL THESE HOMESEXUALS KEEP SUCKING MY COCK?

Have you even started to visualize these repulsive cock-sucking episodes during the healthy, heterosexual marital relations you enjoy with your wife-even some that haven't actually happened?

Like a sweaty, post-game locker-room tryst with Vancouver Canucks forward Mark Messier that you can't seem to stop thinking about?


I stopped fantasizing about Mark Me$$ier once he left the Rangers.
 
2012-10-10 12:54:25 PM
That's nothing...
You should see how they shiat.
 
2012-10-10 12:54:39 PM
You are either being supportive and helping to create an environment where people are comfortable with their bodies, or you are not interested in looking at wieners
 
2012-10-10 01:04:28 PM

TNel: Shazam999: umad: There is a small difference between four dudes using four seperate showers and four dudes cramming themselves into a bathtub to share the same one. Gay or straight, this guy's kids are farking weirdos.

My sister and her friends used to do this too. I think she was bi-curious but she told me later on that she is flat out straight.

Don't leave us hanging we need more details here.

And this thread proves how much of a god Pocket Ninja is.


My sister is a little too much TMI, but I don't feel right describing everything she's told me.

She's had sex with some of her girlfriends, if that's what you're wondering.
 
2012-10-10 01:08:36 PM

SueDisco: I have two adult (27ish) male friends who do this, both straight. They've been friends since middle school, and have been showering together a long time. When questioned, they look at us like we're the ones who are completely crazy. One explained it as a holdover from his days as a college soccer player, but I would think that's more of a large group shower thing, not a "Hey, let's jump in this normal sized shower together." They've jumped in the shower (and the tub) together on large group trips as well. Just like the article, we can hear them laughing and chatting in there.

None of us can wrap our heads around it.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-10 01:10:09 PM

dj_spanmaster: Male or female friends?

Actually, nevermind, that's just the millennial teenager thing. Yes, it's perfectly normal these days.


Name one period in history where stupid kids will not do things that make you facepalm.

/It's probably not sexual, but if I were that dad, I'd be banning showering together just to reinforce the concept.
//I might not give a fark if adults want to shower together, but I'd like to know that my children are aware of standard social rules...
 
2012-10-10 01:10:47 PM

newton: That's nothing...
You should see how they shiat.


If you sit just right, you can stack 3 guys on a toilet and get simultaneous splashdown.
 
2012-10-10 01:12:53 PM

newton: That's nothing...
You should see how they shiat.


They would just pick a hole, beef, and heel it down the drain.
 
2012-10-10 01:13:04 PM

trappedspirit: newton: That's nothing...
You should see how they shiat.

If you sit just right, you can stack 3 guys on a toilet and get simultaneous splashdown.


Or think "Human Centipede"
 
2012-10-10 01:16:05 PM

PallMall: trappedspirit: newton: That's nothing...
You should see how they shiat.

If you sit just right, you can stack 3 guys on a toilet and get simultaneous splashdown.

Or think "Human Centipede"


Gee What's THAT????

/tries to get someone to google that.
 
2012-10-10 01:16:10 PM
I read the column in today's (print) newspaper and was surprised by the answer. In our online age, I figure teens have seen all the naked bodies they want to (online), but I keep hearing that the overall trend is toward _more_ privacy in these situations, with newer-construction schools and camps and public pools providing individual showering stalls and changing rooms (for both men and women), etc.

Anyone have any reliable data?

/BTW, nice job, rudemix--clever and subtle!!!
 
2012-10-10 01:18:00 PM

newton: That's nothing...
You should see how they shiat.


Two, three or four boys, One cup.
 
2012-10-10 01:27:00 PM

GrizzledVeteran: I read the column in today's (print) newspaper and was surprised by the answer. In our online age, I figure teens have seen all the naked bodies they want to (online), but I keep hearing that the overall trend is toward _more_ privacy in these situations, with newer-construction schools and camps and public pools providing individual showering stalls and changing rooms (for both men and women), etc.

Anyone have any reliable data?

/BTW, nice job, rudemix--clever and subtle!!!


Yeah, America (and the world) seem to be getting more prudish. Even over in Europe less men wear speedos than they used to, when just a few years ago you were the outcast if you DIDN'T wear a speedo. More covering up, more "don't look at my wee wee" stuff going on everywhere.
 
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