This thread is like Bizaro-world Freeper thread.

Guys, he's taken one solid position: He'll cut PBS. Now there's a president!

It is so transparent what Romney is trying to do. The fact that he's getting away with it is absolutely mind-boggling and infuriating. John Kerry voted against a procedural motion to make a point about the Iraq war then voted to keep funding it and was tagged a flippy-floppy waffler for eight months straight. This is the second time since the Republican convention that Romney and his campaign have taken diametrically opposed positions on abortion in the same farking day and nobody seems to give a shiat. Unbelievable

/and after the last week, the next person that says to my face that the media is in Obama's pocket or has a liberal bias is going to get cockpunched so hard they'll have to piss through their asshole. 
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///goddam straight I'm mad

Ordinary Genius: Weaver95: y'know...if Romney flipped this quick on abortion - what makes anyone believe that he'll stay strong on the economy? or foreign policy? or anything else for that matter? the guy is either a lying bottom feeder or he's just got no spine. either way he's not a good fit for the job of President.

You mean like Obama on Gitmo, Foreign policy, Detention, the Drug War, and gay marriage?

Well, if Romney had a better position on these things than Obama, and if he could be trusted to actually keep that position, you'd have a point. But alas, Romney is not trustworthy. I mean, hell, it's OK to lie to everyone in America who isn't a Mormon, if you're a Mormon.

Aarontology: Voiceofreason01: He's pandering to try to get votes. His politics before the election and as governor suggest that he's far more of a centrist than he's campaigning as but he needs the Republican base to win so he's trying to balance telling them what they want to hear while not alienating more moderate voters.

I don't believe for a moment that his previous record is what he actually believes. I think then, much like now, he is saying what he thinks he needs to say in order to win.

Sounds like every politician on the planet, so why you so butt hurt?

Mugato: Ordinary Genius: You mean like Obama on Gitmo, Foreign policy, Detention, the Drug War, and gay marriage?

All but the gay marriage thing were because of Congress and you know it. You're willingly talking bullshiat hoping some people are too dumb to realize. You should be on Romney's staff. And you should be one of his employees too.

You really think people post gibberish like this without getting paid?

/I know, I know, I have old scared stupid racist nuts in my family too.

ghare: Mugato: Ordinary Genius: You mean like Obama on Gitmo, Foreign policy, Detention, the Drug War, and gay marriage?

All but the gay marriage thing were because of Congress and you know it. You're willingly talking bullshiat hoping some people are too dumb to realize. You should be on Romney's staff. And you should be one of his employees too.

You really think people post gibberish like this without getting paid?

/I know, I know, I have old scared stupid racist nuts in my family too.

The same congress that controlled both houses the first 2 years of Obama? Same one that forced Obama care on us and said they have to pass it to find out what is in it? HAHAHAHA keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Some_Local_Deity: The Freeper response to this is... sad? interesting? Basically, they agree that they don't know what Mitt stands for on anything. They just know he's not a radical gun-grabbing black supremacist Muslim socialist, so he's their man. Anybody But Obama (or whatever racist epithet they hit on any given day).

So much ignorance, fear and cognitive dissonance over there.

The other things are subsets of his blackitude, which he still refuses to renounce.

Joe Blowme: ghare: Mugato: Ordinary Genius: You mean like Obama on Gitmo, Foreign policy, Detention, the Drug War, and gay marriage?

All but the gay marriage thing were because of Congress and you know it. You're willingly talking bullshiat hoping some people are too dumb to realize. You should be on Romney's staff. And you should be one of his employees too.

You really think people post gibberish like this without getting paid?

/I know, I know, I have old scared stupid racist nuts in my family too.

The same congress that controlled both houses the first 2 years of Obama? Same one that forced Obama care on us and said they have to pass it to find out what is in it? HAHAHAHA keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Oh, another old scared stupid racist decides to chime in. I'm SURE this time your post makes sense.

Aarontology: Joe Blowme: Sounds like every politician on the planet, so why you so butt hurt?

Not every politician does it to the scale Romney does.

Quick. Tell me Romney's position on abortion. What he actually believes. Do it.

Actually, tell me what he said during the debate too. Can you? I doubt it.

So now its about your perception on th severity of the crime? He only robbed a gas station not a bank so its not as bad. Just admit all politicians suck and are scum. You sound like Whoppie defending the rapist Polanski... rape, rape

Joe Blowme: both sides are bad so vote Republican

Yeah. Sure. I'll get right on it.

Mugato: Joe Blowme: The same congress that controlled both houses the first 2 years of Obama?

How many times is this ridiculous talking point going to be brought up?

The democrats had 2 months, tops and even then they weren't immune to the fillibuster. A republican congress whose stated goal is to make Obama a one term President even if it destroys the country can't be stopped from obstructing everything he's trying to do, no matter what.

did not know we voted for new congress every 2 months, i should read more.

Joe Blowme: Sounds like every politician on the planet, so why you so butt hurt?

WTF does that even mean?

"Well, he's just like every other politician, so stop biatching and vote for him" ?

If you're going to troll, then do it right

ghare: Joe Blowme: both sides are bad so vote Republican

Yeah. Sure. I'll get right on it.

Wait. I thought it was both sides are bad so vote RON PAUL!!1!

Joe Blowme: ... i should read more.

Well, you finally got something right! Good boy, here's a treat!

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: ghare: Joe Blowme: both sides are bad so vote Republican

Yeah. Sure. I'll get right on it.

Wait. I thought it was both sides are bad so vote RON PAUL!!1!

They say that, but they all vote for whoever has a "R" by their name.

ghare: Joe Blowme: ghare: Mugato: Ordinary Genius: You mean like Obama on Gitmo, Foreign policy, Detention, the Drug War, and gay marriage?

All but the gay marriage thing were because of Congress and you know it. You're willingly talking bullshiat hoping some people are too dumb to realize. You should be on Romney's staff. And you should be one of his employees too.

You really think people post gibberish like this without getting paid?

/I know, I know, I have old scared stupid racist nuts in my family too.

The same congress that controlled both houses the first 2 years of Obama? Same one that forced Obama care on us and said they have to pass it to find out what is in it? HAHAHAHA keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Oh, another old scared stupid racist decides to chime in. I'm SURE this time your post makes sense.

Ahhh, the old battle cry of the weak minded. Cant possibly be because of his retarded policies.
HAHAHAHAH, keep up the good work.

Aarontology: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: ghare: Joe Blowme: both sides are bad so vote Republican

Yeah. Sure. I'll get right on it.

Wait. I thought it was both sides are bad so vote RON PAUL!!1!

He already said Republican.

You mean Ron Paul is NOT a Libertarian??? Who's responsible?

bhcompy: Nuuu: bhcompy: There is nothing contradictory about these statements. Appointing a judge or getting rid of funding is not legislation. He's just speaking politician speak in a very literal way, so no one can claim he lied.

Getting rid of funding is legislation. All discretionary funding goes through appropriation bills that have to undergo the normal legislative process to become laws, i.e., legislation.

Not necessarily. An executive order could suffice

That's highly doubtful. You can't just write "I hereby defund Planned Parenthood" and have it be true, even as an executive order. Congress controls the purse strings by design and the president can't simply overrule their funding decisions. You may think that the President's executive powers are unlimited given Obama's recent high profile decision to not enforce certain immigration laws under certain circumstances, but everyone agrees that even that pushes the bounds of what the executive can unilaterally do, and what you're proposing is even more extreme.

Second, even Congress can't simply call out a single organization and declare them defunded. That's unconstitutional. Planned Parenthood gets its federal money from grants and programs that it qualifies for. To "defund" them you need rework the application criteria for those grants and programs so that Planned Parenthood no longer qualifies, or simply end those programs entirely. Again, these are things you can't accomplish by executive order. You need the legislative branch.

ghare: sometime i touch myself in public while screaming at racists who walk by looking

WTF?

/wow, this is fun quoting things you never said.
//another strategy of the retarded huh?

Okay so, he won't allow any new restrictions on abrotion, won't get rid of Obamacare, and won't give the rich a tax break? Clearly Romney's advisers think the path to victory is to run to the left of Obama and try to pick up all the disaffect liberals.


It's that or Real Romney is now engaged in an epic battle with candidate Romney for control of his body/soul

Joe Blowme: ghare: Joe Blowme: ghare: Mugato: Ordinary Genius: You mean like Obama on Gitmo, Foreign policy, Detention, the Drug War, and gay marriage?

All but the gay marriage thing were because of Congress and you know it. You're willingly talking bullshiat hoping some people are too dumb to realize. You should be on Romney's staff. And you should be one of his employees too.

You really think people post gibberish like this without getting paid?

/I know, I know, I have old scared stupid racist nuts in my family too.

The same congress that controlled both houses the first 2 years of Obama? Same one that forced Obama care on us and said they have to pass it to find out what is in it? HAHAHAHA keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Oh, another old scared stupid racist decides to chime in. I'm SURE this time your post makes sense.

Ahhh, the old battle cry of the weak minded. Cant possibly be because of his retarded policies.
HAHAHAHAH, keep up the good work.

Huh, noticing facts makes me weak minded. Well, I DID forget to mention that you seem to dislike women, in addition to being a stupid scared racist who can't take personal responsibility for being a failure.

"Our imaginary sky pilot is better than your imaginary sky pilot"

"Our lying piece of shiat talking head is better than your lying piece of shiat talking head."

Yep, it's a FARK circle jerk.

Aarontology: Joe Blowme: The same congress that controlled both houses the first 2 years of Obama? Same one that forced Obama care on us and said they have to pass it to find out what is in it? HAHAHAHA keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

This is my favorite teabagger talking point.

"We opposed everything in ObamaCare, and it will destroy America, but we don't know what was in it"

Here, take this pill. It should make you feel better, but we don't know what's in it. Same argument. Do you take the pill?

/And for the record, I do not support Romney. In fact, I likely would support Obama if he would grow a spine and stand up to congress like he said he would.

Zeb Hesselgresser: "Our imaginary sky pilot is better than your imaginary sky pilot"

"Our lying piece of shiat talking head is better than your lying piece of shiat talking head."

Yep, it's a FARK circle jerk.

So vote Republican, right?

Romney obviously loves the poor. Haven't you figured it out yet?

"Romney vetoed a funding bill for payment of attorneys representing the poor, declaring that it was more important for the state to balance its books than to pay attorneys, and that the attorneys should provide the services pro bono. The cuts in payments for representation of the indigent provoked outraged attorneys to strike."

ghare: Joe Blowme: ghare: Joe Blowme: ghare: Mugato: Ordinary Genius: You mean like Obama on Gitmo, Foreign policy, Detention, the Drug War, and gay marriage?

All but the gay marriage thing were because of Congress and you know it. You're willingly talking bullshiat hoping some people are too dumb to realize. You should be on Romney's staff. And you should be one of his employees too.

You really think people post gibberish like this without getting paid?

/I know, I know, I have old scared stupid racist nuts in my family too.

The same congress that controlled both houses the first 2 years of Obama? Same one that forced Obama care on us and said they have to pass it to find out what is in it? HAHAHAHA keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Oh, another old scared stupid racist decides to chime in. I'm SURE this time your post makes sense.

Ahhh, the old battle cry of the weak minded. Cant possibly be because of his retarded policies.
HAHAHAHAH, keep up the good work.

Huh, noticing facts makes me weak minded. Well, I DID forget to mention that you seem to dislike women, in addition to being a stupid scared racist

Keep it up and im going to cry!
HAHAHAHAHAh

"who can't take personal responsibility for being a failure." Sounds like you are calling me a democrat, that is just uncalled for.
Pop quiz hot shot, what party fought against civil rights, for slavery, and elected a former Klan Exalted Cyclops a leader of the senate? HINT: last name was Byrd

/got to go to work now so i can help pay for your Obama Phone

Romney will ensure that all 100% of the 53% are taken care of properly!

"Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental and eyeglass benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid.[80][81] However, the state legislature overrode all of the vetoes."

gilgigamesh: Delay: FlashHarry: it's pretty easy for them to control the message: vote for "not the black guy".

Well, it's weird that Romney's own spokesperson does more to expose Romney's BS than the media.

It's actually a pattern, and it seems to be a deliberate tactic.

Romney's campaign has been trying to play both sides of controversial issues by having the candidate say one thing in public -- the mainstream view -- only to have his campaign walk the statement back almost immediately. That way the low information mainstream voters hear what they want to hear and get on with life. When the base complains about his position, the campaign can say he "misspoke" and the record has been corrected. But most voters don't know about the walk-back.

I've noticed it happens all the time; far too often to be simple error or ineptitude.

Oh Romney is clever. PBS has an intresting documentary about elections Obama and Romney both lost in previous attempts. They showed parts from a debate Romney had with Ted Kennedy for the senate seat there and Ted ate Mitt for breakfast, it was odd espcially how now Mitt seems so poised and polished. But I guess from that defeat he learned a lot on how to be more politician like.

All your uteruses are belong to us.

gilgigamesh: Stupid libs, haven't you ever heard of a candidate's position on an issue evolving? Like your precious Obama's opinion on gay marriage?

In this case, Romney's position on abortion simply evolves by adapting to whomever he happens to be talking to at that given moment.

This is less evolution and more superposition. Romney somehow has every conceivable position on every possible issue.

When I was in a relationship I thought that reproductive choice was the litmus-test issue that would determine whom I voted for. Which side I was on depended on which side she was on (based upon my firm conviction that having one dick means you should get NO vote on the matter)

Now that I'm single, I just want to see a big-ass war with Iran.

Barnstormer: When I was in a relationship I thought that reproductive choice was the litmus-test issue that would determine whom I voted for. Which side I was on depended on which side she was on (based upon my firm conviction that having one dick means you should get NO vote on the matter)

Now that I'm single, I just want to see a big-ass war with Iran.

What about having two dicks?

Barnstormer: When I was in a relationship I thought that reproductive choice was the litmus-test issue that would determine whom I voted for. Which side I was on depended on which side she was on (based upon my firm conviction that having one dick means you should get NO vote on the matter)

Now that I'm single, I just want to see a draft and then a big-ass war with Iran.

FTFY. Iran is 4 times the size of Iraq. And we sent 1.5 million military personnel into Iraq.

I wonder how many troops Eric Shinseki thinks we will have to have to take and hold Iran. Shhhhh. Let's not get him "retired" again for speaking the truth.

Weaver95: y'know...if Romney flipped this quick on abortion - what makes anyone believe that he'll stay strong on the economy? or foreign policy? or anything else for that matter? the guy is either a lying bottom feeder or he's just got no spine. either way he's not a good fit for the job of President.

yeah, that's pretty much the entire election. right now the ballot would be no different if it was obama vs. "white person to be named later." that is what scares the shiat out of me... that people will vote for someone without having any idea what they think about anything, except for the negative stuff that has come out from behind-closed-door fundraisers.

Aarontology: Ordinary Genius: Here, take this pill. It should make you feel better, but we don't know what's in it. Same argument. Do you take the pill?

Were the contents of that pill debated in Congress for over a year, talked about on the news every single day for over a year, and the main topic of debate all around the country for over a year? Because ObamaCare was. If anyone didn't know what was in it, then it's their own goddamned fault for being willfully ignorant and their words should not be taken seriously since they, apparently, lived under a rock for over a year. but they know they oppose it because it will destroy everything. Even though they don't know what is in it.

If I recall correctly, there were members of congress who had read parts of it, and did not like those parts. They then decided that it would be bad based on those portions of it. I think it would be similar, if not identical, to the argument that the NDAA should not be passed as a whole because of sections 1021 and 1022.

The question is whether you want to vilify a member for being against something based on their views of a portion of the bill. It seems that that is the case for you. To put it in topical terms of this thread, would be okay had Obamacare had a portion of it which prohibited all abortions? or would you say "scrap the whole thing" because of that one bad section? If it had that section, would you bother reading the rest?