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2012-10-10 10:35:28 AM  

hubiestubert: Weaver95: y'know...if Romney flipped this quick on abortion - what makes anyone believe that he'll stay strong on the economy? or foreign policy? or anything else for that matter? the guy is either a lying bottom feeder or he's just got no spine. either way he's not a good fit for the job of President.

Nothing has really changed since his days from Maine.

It's not that he lacks spine, it's that he lacks principles...


He's greedy, untrustworthy, almost comically unlikeable, and he's fronting for a hateful racist, sexist party full of morans and dickbags.
 
2012-10-10 10:36:51 AM  
As long as Romney doesn't turn into a black kenyan muslim socialist, he can basically turn into anything else and the majority of his base will still vote for him.
 
2012-10-10 10:37:18 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: hubiestubert: Weaver95: y'know...if Romney flipped this quick on abortion - what makes anyone believe that he'll stay strong on the economy? or foreign policy? or anything else for that matter? the guy is either a lying bottom feeder or he's just got no spine. either way he's not a good fit for the job of President.

Nothing has really changed since his days from Maine.

It's not that he lacks spine, it's that he lacks principles...

He's greedy, untrustworthy, almost comically unlikeable, and he's fronting for a hateful racist, sexist party full of morans and dickbags.


Romney also forced me to register Democrat AND go volunteer for the Obama campaign. that man scares the piss outta me. I do NOT want to live in a theocracy!
 
2012-10-10 10:37:53 AM  

serial_crusher: shrug. Every time I use the phrase "pro-abortion" in a thread, I get a slew of herpaderp about how there's a difference between people who support your right to have an abortion, and those who plan on having one themselves.


I know, what the fark right? I mean, it's like there are people out there who support a women's right to make her own medical decisions.

It's crazy.
 
2012-10-10 10:39:50 AM  

Weaver95: Romney also forced me to register Democrat AND go volunteer for the Obama campaign.


Oh Weaves. I remember when I had you farkied as "fascist".
 
2012-10-10 10:43:32 AM  

what_now: Weaver95: Romney also forced me to register Democrat AND go volunteer for the Obama campaign.

Oh Weaves. I remember when I had you farkied as "fascist".


I *despise* theocracies. And the GOP (at the local/state and federal level) is pushing a 'biblical' form of government. not only are they theocrats but they're authoritarians as well, which is basically super sizing the horribleness of the whole situation. the libertarians - as much as I like them - seem to be just fine with authoritarian style government...just as long as we're being crushed by corporations and not the Fedgov. while I have my issues with the Democrats....out of all my choices, they are the lesser of many evils.
 
2012-10-10 10:45:39 AM  

Weaver95: FlashHarry: Weaver95: y'know...if Romney flipped this quick on abortion - what makes anyone believe that he'll stay strong on the economy? or foreign policy? or anything else for that matter? the guy is either a lying bottom feeder or he's just got no spine. either way he's not a good fit for the job of President.

this MUST be the message of the obama campaign for the remaining weeks. articulate your vision and contrast it with the flip-flops of your challenger.

i'm planning on helping with an Obama phone bank on thursday. i'll make note of it.


Weaver is a case study in what has happened to the GOP.

From ardent right winger to Obama supporter in just 6 years.
 
2012-10-10 10:48:48 AM  

Weaver95: what_now: Weaver95: Romney also forced me to register Democrat AND go volunteer for the Obama campaign.

Oh Weaves. I remember when I had you farkied as "fascist".

I *despise* theocracies. And the GOP (at the local/state and federal level) is pushing a 'biblical' form of government. not only are they theocrats but they're authoritarians as well, which is basically super sizing the horribleness of the whole situation. the libertarians - as much as I like them - seem to be just fine with authoritarian style government...just as long as we're being crushed by corporations and not the Fedgov. while I have my issues with the Democrats....out of all my choices, they are the lesser of many evils.


I'm sorry your party abandoned you, dude. But I'm glad to have you in my corner. :)
 
2012-10-10 10:49:21 AM  

Tigger:
Weaver is a case study in what has happened to the GOP.

From ardent right winger to Obama supporter in just 6 years.


have I mentioned how much I hate a theocratic form of government? Because I *really* hate that sort of thing.
 
2012-10-10 10:50:31 AM  

Tigger: Weaver95: FlashHarry: Weaver95: y'know...if Romney flipped this quick on abortion - what makes anyone believe that he'll stay strong on the economy? or foreign policy? or anything else for that matter? the guy is either a lying bottom feeder or he's just got no spine. either way he's not a good fit for the job of President.

this MUST be the message of the obama campaign for the remaining weeks. articulate your vision and contrast it with the flip-flops of your challenger.

i'm planning on helping with an Obama phone bank on thursday. i'll make note of it.

Weaver is a case study in what has happened to the GOP.

From ardent right winger to Obama supporter in just 6 years.


A heroic tale of self discovery.

Welcome to the land of the less deluded. I wish he hadn't fumbled on national TV so badly last week, but all this does is makes his own comeback all the more epic. right. Right???

I am comfortable with America screwing itself if thats what America wants. I lived through this once already with Reagan. Biggest sack of lying phony fake crap around, yet America ate it up. Wasn't morning in america where I grew up. Far from it.

So you guys get out the vote for Obama, we'll be better off if he wins, but ... America needs to learn to quit electing liars, if putting a mormon cultist liar into office is how it learned that finally, I'm fine with it. The country's too big to fail. Doncha know.
 
2012-10-10 10:54:54 AM  
And the other part of that comment is, if Obama can't be arsed to confront a mormon liar on TV and act like he wants the job, the hell with him. Seriously. The tea baggers should have been stomped on TV every week in 09, by Obama, the theoretical leader of the free world. Instead he is letting those senile plasterbrained punks have the floor and conceding points left and right in the name of "bipartisan cooperation."

Like a cowboy once said, you don't negotiate with terrorists. I consider tea baggers our modern taliban. They should be confronted as the liars they are, they should be shouted out of their own party and relegated back to the cult status they had. But little by little the Republicans have been cultivating these guys, and now we have the Reagan Youth all grown up in the form of Paul Ryan, who is the child of government entitlement yet wants to pull the rug out from everyone else that came after him.

I would like if Obama grew a pair and used his epic speaking skills to fight more like Dean or Clinton or Rendell, instead of being more like a younger Harry Reid.

The bully pulpit was yours, Barry. Why didn't you use it???
 
2012-10-10 10:55:20 AM  

Weaver95: have I mentioned how much I hate a theocratic form of government? Because I *really* hate that sort of thing.


Weaver, I think you'll find that Biblically based laws are not theocratic, but forced gay integration is.
 
2012-10-10 11:00:55 AM  

Aarontology: Weaver95: have I mentioned how much I hate a theocratic form of government? Because I *really* hate that sort of thing.

Weaver, I think you'll find that Biblically based laws are not theocratic, but forced gay integration is.


again - every time I hear/read the phrase 'forced gay integration' I keep thinking of 'queer eye for the straight guy'.
 
2012-10-10 11:03:27 AM  

Sybarite: He's going to say whatever it takes to get elected, and his base understands this.


They know what he really means, he just has to pander to the moderates...for now.
 
2012-10-10 11:06:58 AM  
He supports it, he just doesn't have anything planned. Not a flip-flop.

And of course he doesn't have anything planned, because it's not his job to plan anything, it's his job to get elected so that certain people can tell him what their plans are and then get them into the system.
 
2012-10-10 11:07:05 AM  

Weaver95: God Is My Co-Pirate: hubiestubert: Weaver95: y'know...if Romney flipped this quick on abortion - what makes anyone believe that he'll stay strong on the economy? or foreign policy? or anything else for that matter? the guy is either a lying bottom feeder or he's just got no spine. either way he's not a good fit for the job of President.

Nothing has really changed since his days from Maine.

It's not that he lacks spine, it's that he lacks principles...

He's greedy, untrustworthy, almost comically unlikeable, and he's fronting for a hateful racist, sexist party full of morans and dickbags.

Romney also forced me to register Democrat AND go volunteer for the Obama campaign. that man scares the piss outta me. I do NOT want to live in a theocracy!


The GOP leadership likewise made me register Independent. Romney is a non-starter for me, having had to deal with him in Maine and in Massachusetts. He isn't a leader, he's a bird dog for cash money, and always has been.

The leadership had an opportunity after McCain's loss to enter into a small period of introspection to understand why they lost the race. Instead of taking that time, they decided to double down on exactly the radical and reactionary elements that have taken the party from anything like good Conservatism, and instead took the party deeper in radical territory that throws away anything like support of the republic or the good of the nation as a whole. They threw away the foundations of the party in a pursuit of cash, plain and simple, that began when they chased after the Religious Right's donations. The downward slide that began with the lashing of the NeoCons to the Religious Right has now become the center of the party. And it is very much against anything like good Republicanism, and I cannot, in good conscience support that death spiral...
 
2012-10-10 11:08:37 AM  
Oh man, he'll totally have to answer for this in the next debate. Right guys? Right?
 
2012-10-10 11:09:07 AM  

Generation_D: The bully pulpit was yours, Barry. Why didn't you use it???


FFS, he has three debates. You're arguing like a baseball fan whose team just lost game 1 in a best-of-three because they didn't start their ace against the opposing team's ace. Yeah, they lost game 1, but they're set up even better for games 2 and 3 now.

/except in this case, winning the "games" doesn't even really matter
 
2012-10-10 11:10:38 AM  
I just find it hilarious how Democrats make such a huge deal out of "flip-flopping", as they call it. I have never once heard a Republican call any Democratic candidate a flip-flopper, because Republicans do not brand their opponents and Republicans prefer to debate the issues. Republicans do not resort to name-calling, you stupid liberals. Deal with it. Mitchell "Thaddeus" Romney is more intelligent than any of you, and it shouldn't be surprising that when he speaks, that philosophers, academics, experts, and the common man all come together to determine what Romney has actually said. From there, people find multiple interpretations. And from there, people claim he has given many different positions on the same issue. "Misinterpretation of ideas" is not "Romney took multiple positions on the same issue". The end. Go home. Taxbongo lost the election. Stop being jealous that Romney is smarter than you.
 
2012-10-10 11:11:21 AM  
Fark websites that autoload two separate, unpausable videos.
 
2012-10-10 11:11:26 AM  
MittTron-2012 believe exactly what it believes you want it to believe. That way he can never be wrong. Duh.
 
2012-10-10 11:12:27 AM  
Huffington Post: never biased.
 
2012-10-10 11:12:34 AM  
Yeah, about time the focus moved off of debate, and therefore Big Bird, to
His flipping stance on Abortion
To his taxes
To bain capital
To him Opposing auto bail out- specially in Ohio
To him tax cut to wealthy at the expense of middle class

And so on. These worked well, and will work again. Just need to get peoples mind off of the debate.
 
2012-10-10 11:13:08 AM  

gilgigamesh: serial_crusher: shrug. Every time I use the phrase "pro-abortion" in a thread, I get a slew of herpaderp about how there's a difference between people who support your right to have an abortion, and those who plan on having one themselves.

What does that have to do with what Romney said? Are you suggesting he thinks its morally wrong, but also thinks abortion should be a legal alternative for those who want it?


I'm suggesting that he didn't say what the headline quotes him as saying. He said he's not going to push for legislation to limit abortions, but if somebody else were to push for it, we would support them.

See, he's not pro-legislation-limiting-abortions. He's pro-choice, where the choice is whether or not to limit abortions through legislation.
 
2012-10-10 11:13:26 AM  

tom baker's scarf: MittTron-2012 believe exactly what it believes you want it to believe. That way he can never be wrong. Duh.


images1.wikia.nocookie.net

please assume the position.
 
2012-10-10 11:13:50 AM  

imontheinternet: Romney surrogates must order antacids by the crate.


Or Dramamine.
 
2012-10-10 11:15:18 AM  

Delay: FlashHarry: it's pretty easy for them to control the message: vote for "not the black guy".

Well, it's weird that Romney's own spokesperson does more to expose Romney's BS than the media.


And yet, not one single Republican out there will see this and say, "That guy make John Kerry look like the Rock of Gibraltar, I'm voting Obama (or third party)."
 
2012-10-10 11:15:47 AM  

Mike_LowELL: I just find it hilarious how Democrats make such a huge deal out of "flip-flopping", as they call it. I have never once heard a Republican call any Democratic candidate a flip-flopper, because Republicans do not brand their opponents and Republicans prefer to debate the issues. Republicans do not resort to name-calling, you stupid liberals. Deal with it. Mitchell "Thaddeus" Romney is more intelligent than any of you, and it shouldn't be surprising that when he speaks, that philosophers, academics, experts, and the common man all come together to determine what Romney has actually said. From there, people find multiple interpretations. And from there, people claim he has given many different positions on the same issue. "Misinterpretation of ideas" is not "Romney took multiple positions on the same issue". The end. Go home. Taxbongo lost the election. Stop being jealous that Romney is smarter than you.


media.comicvine.com
 
2012-10-10 11:15:51 AM  

Weaver95: again - every time I hear/read the phrase 'forced gay integration' I keep thinking of 'queer eye for the straight guy'.


It makes me think of someone who would vote for George Wallace.
 
2012-10-10 11:15:58 AM  
Mitt Romney said Tuesday he has no plans to push for legislation limiting abortion, a softer stance from a candidate who has said he would "get rid of" funding for Planned Parenthood and appoint Supreme Court who would overturn Roe v. Wade.

"There's no legislation with regards to abortion that I'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda," the Republican presidential nominee told The Des Moines Register in an interview.


There is nothing contradictory about these statements. Appointing a judge or getting rid of funding is not legislation. He's just speaking politician speak in a very literal way, so no one can claim he lied.

Regardless, it seems more and more that Romney is backing off his pandering for social conservative votes and is reverting to his northeastern Republican views that his record as governor supports. This is a good thing, whether or not he gets elected(chances are slim), simply because it shows that there are sane Republicans that exist somewhere in high positions still.
 
2012-10-10 11:16:06 AM  

serial_crusher: See, he's not pro-legislation-limiting-abortions. He's pro-choice, where the choice is whether or not to limit abortions through legislation.


What the hell?
 
2012-10-10 11:16:38 AM  

IAmRight: FFS, he has three debates. You're arguing like a baseball fan whose team just lost game 1 in a best-of-three because they didn't start their ace against the opposing team's ace. Yeah, they lost game 1, but they're set up even better for games 2 and 3 now.


Sweet Jesus, this.
 
2012-10-10 11:16:42 AM  

WhiskeyBender: Aarontology: WhiskeyBender: Has a comet passed close to earth? Something is strange because I've never seen a politician say one thing that sides with a group of people, then take the other side with another group. Never!

I've never seen one do it on literally every single issue like Romney has.

You're right. I haven't seen one issue he has stayed constant on. Well..taxes now that I think about it, but that is a given.


Oh yeah?

"I don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. I don't have a tax cut of a scale that you're talking about." 
 
2012-10-10 11:17:19 AM  
Our next president ladies and gentlemen!! I think Bama is sick and tired of this shiatty job with insane co-workers, I cant blame him for wanting out.
 
2012-10-10 11:17:55 AM  
He was for it before he was against it and vice versa.
 
2012-10-10 11:18:25 AM  
Shame there is no Olympic event for vocal gymnastics.

Why, why, why continue listening/broadcasting this chit? Pointless unless your agenda to put the stake through the population's trust.
 
2012-10-10 11:18:48 AM  

ib_thinkin: Don't like what Mitt Romney says? Wait ten minutes.


Ten minutes? At this rate they are walking stuff back while he is still on the podium!
 
2012-10-10 11:19:17 AM  
And Obama's response is another word salad.

Hey 'bama, try this, "MITT ROMNEY IS LYING YET AGAIN

Is there some rule about calling Mitt Romney a liar?
 
2012-10-10 11:19:21 AM  

serial_crusher: shrug. Every time I use the phrase "pro-abortion" in a thread, I get a slew of herpaderp about how there's a difference between people who support your right to have an abortion, and those who plan on having one themselves.


Maybe it's because there actually IS a difference between supporting a woman's right to have an abortion and planning to actually have an abortion?

For starters, the second group, by definition, consists entirely of pregnant women -- despite Fox News' claims to the contrary, it's impossible to have an abortion when you're not pregnant for much the same reason women can't get vasectomies or people with both legs amputated above the knee cannot get ACL surgery.

Then there's the fact that if you replace "have an abortion" with anything else at all, it will be much easier for you to see that not everyone who supports a right has plans to exercise that right. For example, I support your right to have a three-way with a pair of trailer-park fatties who can't leave their homes without the help of a forklift, even though I have no plans to do so myself.
 
2012-10-10 11:19:34 AM  

Mike_LowELL: I just find it hilarious how Democrats make such a huge deal out of "flip-flopping", as they call it. I have never once heard a Republican call any Democratic candidate a flip-flopper, because Republicans do not brand their opponents and Republicans prefer to debate the issues. Republicans do not resort to name-calling, you stupid liberals. Deal with it. Mitchell "Thaddeus" Romney is more intelligent than any of you, and it shouldn't be surprising that when he speaks, that philosophers, academics, experts, and the common man all come together to determine what Romney has actually said. From there, people find multiple interpretations. And from there, people claim he has given many different positions on the same issue. "Misinterpretation of ideas" is not "Romney took multiple positions on the same issue". The end. Go home. Taxbongo lost the election. Stop being jealous that Romney is smarter than you.


Romney is smarter than me in the same way that Watson, the Jeopardy playing computer, is smarter than me.
 
2012-10-10 11:20:16 AM  

sodomizer: Huffington Post: never biased.


You can't actually be biased for or against Romney, as he has taken on every possible position on every subject politics touches.
 
2012-10-10 11:21:46 AM  

orclover: Our next president ladies and gentlemen!! I think Bama is sick and tired of this shiatty job with insane co-workers, I cant blame him for wanting out.


How do you find any idiot willing to put up with it?
By definition, they must be crazy.

Our politicians jobs are no longer hired to lead. They are only employed to lie. For your own good, naturally.
And we do need better liars, this crew is done.
 
2012-10-10 11:22:46 AM  

gilgigamesh: Delay: FlashHarry: it's pretty easy for them to control the message: vote for "not the black guy".

Well, it's weird that Romney's own spokesperson does more to expose Romney's BS than the media.

It's actually a pattern, and it seems to be a deliberate tactic.

Romney's campaign has been trying to play both sides of controversial issues by having the candidate say one thing in public -- the mainstream view -- only to have his campaign walk the statement back almost immediately. That way the low information mainstream voters hear what they want to hear and get on with life. When the base complains about his position, the campaign can say he "misspoke" and the record has been corrected. But most voters don't know about the walk-back.

I've noticed it happens all the time; far too often to be simple error or ineptitude.


He got such a bounce by sounding like an idiot before the debates, then appearing to be competent within the debates (where facts aren't pointed out). They figure if they can just repeat that success a few more times they will be on top.
 
2012-10-10 11:22:49 AM  
You mean to tell me that Romney is using pro-lifers to get elected with no plans of actually doing anything to limit abortion besides the vague promise of "i'll nominate pro-life supreme court justices."?

color me shocked.

/not one of my pro-life friends believes that Romney will do nothing regarding abortion.
//they are (as usual) republicans first, pro-life second.
 
2012-10-10 11:22:52 AM  
It seems that the media have turned on Obama, and not just Drudge and Fox News. I'm not sure why. I can understand why the Democratic base is angry at Obama, he's hasn't manage to do much for them these past four years, he hasn't punished any of the Wall St or bankster criminals....even Reagan had some of the S&L fraudsters sent to prison. Even with all of Obama's failings, Mittens is swearing in his magic underpants that he's going to hammer the 47% like a Vegas whore at a cop convention. I can't imagine how any working person would be indifferent to a Rmoney win.

I can't help think that all the media pronouncements that the election is a done deal for Willard the Rat won't hurt him. Just look at Drudge, "New Poll shows Romney 99% and Obama 0% with a Margin of Error of +/- 1%. Large numbers of the bagger-tards, despite all the rhetoric, can hardly be arsed to vote. After all, charging up the Rascal, and packing up the oxygen tanks, and an extra does of insulin hypodermics takes an entire morning's effort.
 
2012-10-10 11:22:58 AM  
The Freeper response to this is... sad? interesting? Basically, they agree that they don't know what Mitt stands for on anything. They just know he's not a radical gun-grabbing black supremacist Muslim socialist, so he's their man. Anybody But Obama (or whatever racist epithet they hit on any given day).

So much ignorance, fear and cognitive dissonance over there.
 
2012-10-10 11:24:11 AM  

Mrembo: ib_thinkin: Don't like what Mitt Romney says? Wait ten minutes.

Ten minutes? At this rate they are walking stuff back while he is still on the podium!


That would make a funny comedy bit. Get a comedian playing the part of Romney, then have the 'debate moderator' ask Romney a question about a particular policy with a moderate constituent (wearing clothing and buttons and such identifying them so) next to the moderator.

Then have the moderator move that person aside, pull in a conservative voter (Sarah Palin t-shirt, 'marriage = man and woman symbol button') next to him and say, "how about now?"
 
2012-10-10 11:24:21 AM  

King Something: serial_crusher: shrug. Every time I use the phrase "pro-abortion" in a thread, I get a slew of herpaderp about how there's a difference between people who support your right to have an abortion, and those who plan on having one themselves.

Maybe it's because there actually IS a difference between supporting a woman's right to have an abortion and planning to actually have an abortion?

For starters, the second group, by definition, consists entirely of pregnant women -- despite Fox News' claims to the contrary, it's impossible to have an abortion when you're not pregnant for much the same reason women can't get vasectomies or people with both legs amputated above the knee cannot get ACL surgery.

Then there's the fact that if you replace "have an abortion" with anything else at all, it will be much easier for you to see that not everyone who supports a right has plans to exercise that right. For example, I support your right to have a three-way with a pair of trailer-park fatties who can't leave their homes without the help of a forklift, even though I have no plans to do so myself.


AHH, not a Republican.
There is a fee to be negotiated and, of course, The War on Threeways to deal with.
 
2012-10-10 11:26:11 AM  

Cythraul: Weaver95: y'know...if Romney flipped this quick on abortion - what makes anyone believe that he'll stay strong on the economy? or foreign policy? or anything else for that matter? the guy is either a lying bottom feeder or he's just got no spine. either way he's not a good fit for the job of President.

One thing he can't flip-flop on is his race, which is probably why some of his supporters continue to support him.


What race is ORANGE?
 
2012-10-10 11:26:24 AM  

bhcompy: There is nothing contradictory about these statements. Appointing a judge or getting rid of funding is not legislation. He's just speaking politician speak in a very literal way, so no one can claim he lied.


Getting rid of funding is legislation. All discretionary funding goes through appropriation bills that have to undergo the normal legislative process to become laws, i.e., legislation.
 
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