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2012-10-10 05:43:30 AM
I wish I could have got out of bed today and thought "I'm going to play some Beethoven to some rodents today".
 
2012-10-10 05:45:33 AM
Not a biologist, but is that a pic of a mouse? It looks more like a rat - has no hair on it's tail.
 
2012-10-10 07:06:49 AM

jimmyego: I wish I could have got out of bed today and thought "I'm going to play some Beethoven to some rodents today".


So... you want to be a high school music teacher?
 
2012-10-10 07:26:31 AM
The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.
 
2012-10-10 07:39:58 AM
most young people have very limited exposure to music. radio, what their friends like, what their siblings listen to. if you are not a musician it can take years to develop interest in the roots of different forms of music. even many musicians are stuck in a single mode, listening and playing only to one or two forms or styles of music.

i realized long ago the young people that have the most varied taste in music are the ones who were lucky enough to have many people directly influencing them, turning them on to all sorts of tunes.
 
2012-10-10 07:53:24 AM

t3knomanser: The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.


Have you ever heard of "Tejano Techno"?

/I'm sorry
 
2012-10-10 08:08:13 AM
I listen to almost nothing that I listened to in high school. There are a handful of albums I listen to that I got then, but only a handful.
 
2012-10-10 08:32:15 AM
There was some really good stuff coming out when I was a teen in the 80s that I still listen to today. I don't know that I consider it any better than music being produced now, but I can definitely trace the thread connecting a lot of new music I discover to things I enjoyed back then.
 
2012-10-10 08:37:05 AM
True "Dumb Teenager" story -

Honor student - 15 years old. I figured I'd extend his horizons; collected a crapload of music he hadn't been exposed to. He starts listening to a Bach Cantata.

"Wait a minute - how did they do that?"

"Do what?"

"You said this guy is from, what - the 18th Century? How come the recording is so clear?"
 
2012-10-10 09:39:45 AM
boy am i glad my highschool days included wanderin the fm dial in houston in the 90s, and not the time poeriod after houston radio got sucked up by clear channel and cumulus
 
2012-10-10 09:43:21 AM

gopher321: Not a biologist, but is that a pic of a mouse? It looks more like a rat - has no hair on it's tail.


nor do mice.
 
2012-10-10 09:55:09 AM

t3knomanser: The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.


Strangely enough, I had terrible taste back in high school but then later in life started really like the good songs released during that time, even though I didn't like them when they came out.
 
2012-10-10 09:57:50 AM
I want to thank the researchers for answering a question I've had for years: why many people my parents' age (but not all) object primarily to later music being 'loud' -- more than to its intrinsic musical qualities. TFA seems to answer that: it's conditioned, and remains conditioned. My parents came of age in an ere when most music they were exposed to was nowhere near as loud as much of the music I was exposed to around the same age. The music itself, then, is secondary to its volume. Very interesting to learn, and now I can rest easy knowing that my father is not an incurable square, he just doesn't like loud music.
 
2012-10-10 10:12:42 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I want to thank the researchers for answering a question I've had for years: why many people my parents' age (but not all) object primarily to later music being 'loud' -- more than to its intrinsic musical qualities. TFA seems to answer that: it's conditioned, and remains conditioned. My parents came of age in an ere when most music they were exposed to was nowhere near as loud as much of the music I was exposed to around the same age. The music itself, then, is secondary to its volume. Very interesting to learn, and now I can rest easy knowing that my father is not an incurable square, he just doesn't like loud music.


I guess that means the next generation is going to be told to "Turn that goddam noise UP, you little snot!"
 
2012-10-10 10:39:53 AM

untaken_name: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I want to thank the researchers for answering a question I've had for years: why many people my parents' age (but not all) object primarily to later music being 'loud' -- more than to its intrinsic musical qualities. TFA seems to answer that: it's conditioned, and remains conditioned. My parents came of age in an ere when most music they were exposed to was nowhere near as loud as much of the music I was exposed to around the same age. The music itself, then, is secondary to its volume. Very interesting to learn, and now I can rest easy knowing that my father is not an incurable square, he just doesn't like loud music.

I guess that means the next generation is going to be told to "Turn that goddam noise UP, you little snot!"


Also "I'll kick you out of my house if you don't grow that hair"
 
2012-10-10 10:40:24 AM
I'm not really all that big of a fan of the stuff that came out while I was in high school. If anything, my taste in music at that time was about 20 years older than I was, and still is. Felt like I was the only one in my high school that DIDN'T like rap / r&b ffs.
 
2012-10-10 10:41:32 AM

LewDux: untaken_name: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I want to thank the researchers for answering a question I've had for years: why many people my parents' age (but not all) object primarily to later music being 'loud' -- more than to its intrinsic musical qualities. TFA seems to answer that: it's conditioned, and remains conditioned. My parents came of age in an ere when most music they were exposed to was nowhere near as loud as much of the music I was exposed to around the same age. The music itself, then, is secondary to its volume. Very interesting to learn, and now I can rest easy knowing that my father is not an incurable square, he just doesn't like loud music.

I guess that means the next generation is going to be told to "Turn that goddam noise UP, you little snot!"

Also "I'll kick you out of my house if you don't grow that hair"



Don't get a haircut or get a real job
You act is too clean go be a slob
Don't be like your big brother Bob
 
2012-10-10 10:41:36 AM
Still no answer to question "why old farkers are so insecure about their musical tastes"
 
2012-10-10 10:52:23 AM

t3knomanser: The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.


I just leave Pandora on and let it run wild.
They've programmed it to descend down the ladder.

dl.dropbox.com

/I'm somewhere around five now.
/Then again, I used to listen to Linkin park. So I didn't start at the top.
 
2012-10-10 10:57:27 AM
I usually listen to what sounds good, my development notwithstanding.

Like lately I've kinda been digging Timeflies. You can laugh if you want.
 
2012-10-10 11:14:41 AM

untaken_name: t3knomanser: The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.

Have you ever heard of "Tejano Techno"?

/I'm sorry


Oh, man...you just gave me San Antonio music flashbacks. The regular Tejano was bad enough (Mexican Polka music?!), but to give it a Techno beat? My ears are already bleeding.
 
2012-10-10 11:26:35 AM
Ladies and mentlegen, Soul Bossa Nova.
 
2012-10-10 11:48:55 AM
 
2012-10-10 12:09:50 PM
I'm more interested in the idea that some acid can make my brain malleable again.
 
2012-10-10 12:20:40 PM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I want to thank the researchers for answering a question I've had for years: why many people my parents' age (but not all) object primarily to later music being 'loud' -- more than to its intrinsic musical qualities. TFA seems to answer that: it's conditioned, and remains conditioned. My parents came of age in an ere when most music they were exposed to was nowhere near as loud as much of the music I was exposed to around the same age. The music itself, then, is secondary to its volume. Very interesting to learn, and now I can rest easy knowing that my father is not an incurable square, he just doesn't like loud music.


Sometimes, that's reversed. For example, when Nirvana's "Nevermind" was popular, my husband and I would blast it on the stereo, we loved it. Our kid, however, hated it because it was "too noisy", which we found hysterical because of the line in the Weird Al parody of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" that says "Boy, this oughta bug your parents" while it was the other way around for us and our kid. We still like louder and heavier music than she does.
 
2012-10-10 12:34:46 PM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I want to thank the researchers for answering a question I've had for years: why many people my parents' age (but not all) object primarily to later music being 'loud' -- more than to its intrinsic musical qualities. TFA seems to answer that: it's conditioned, and remains conditioned. My parents came of age in an ere when most music they were exposed to was nowhere near as loud as much of the music I was exposed to around the same age. The music itself, then, is secondary to its volume. Very interesting to learn, and now I can rest easy knowing that my father is not an incurable square, he just doesn't like loud music.


Arguably in a live situation it would be the opposite.

As a musician I can tell you that the trend has been towards less loud guitar and bass amplifiers in live settings. Stage volume is now much less than it was before thanks to good PA's and monitor systems that can more effectively broadcast. Guitar and bass players no longer NEED huge stacks on stage to be heard and often times they're using a miced backline that could be used in a small club without an issue.

\loves his all-original 56' Tweed Champ
 
2012-10-10 12:42:29 PM

t3knomanser: The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.


southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com

Turned into Steamy Nicks

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2012-10-10 01:50:23 PM

omeganuepsilon: t3knomanser: The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.

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Turned into Steamy Nicks

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while that episode made depression tangible, the music part was just stupid.
 
2012-10-10 02:51:22 PM
I think I would think Kanye West and Sean Combs blew at any age.
 
2012-10-10 02:53:28 PM
way south

LOL'd at "Tibetan throat singing" being at the bottom of that chart. I love me some Gyuto Monks, but otherwise my tastes generally delve no deeper than Level 4.

\love IDM
\\Boards of Canada FTW
 
2012-10-10 03:21:31 PM

frepnog: while that episode made depression tangible, the music part was just stupid.


Actually, it made a point. No matter how you force yourself to listen to what you don't like, you may just never get it, and just end up looking like some poser fool.

/hence the reference in the first place
//takes a swig of whiskey then goes to get ready for work
 
2012-10-10 03:26:32 PM
IT'S YOU! I LEARNED IT FROM YOU!!!!
 
2012-10-10 05:06:14 PM
bernays? drtfa

i796.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-10 07:56:55 PM

way south: t3knomanser: The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.

I just leave Pandora on and let it run wild.
They've programmed it to descend down the ladder.

[dl.dropbox.com image 500x1379]

/I'm somewhere around five now.
/Then again, I used to listen to Linkin park. So I didn't start at the top.


Shiat, I'm levels 1-infinite..... dayum (will keep that in mind).
/that was hilarious
 
2012-10-10 09:12:34 PM

way south: /I'm somewhere around five now.


Where does "I program my own synths and generators into my phone and listen to that?" fall on the list. I do that, sometimes.
 
2012-10-11 03:42:59 AM

buckler: untaken_name: t3knomanser: The idea that my musical tastes might have been cemented in high school is utterly terrifying. I had terrible taste in music back then.

I actually force myself to listen to genres that I don't like until I learn to appreciate them.

Have you ever heard of "Tejano Techno"?

/I'm sorry

Oh, man...you just gave me San Antonio music flashbacks. The regular Tejano was bad enough (Mexican Polka music?!), but to give it a Techno beat? My ears are already bleeding.


I live in austin. I've actually been to that club over at lamar and 183 where for many years during the early 2000s, all they played was tejano techno. It's called Tejano Ranch now but I think it was something else last time I was there. I still have nightmares.
 
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