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(CNN)   Lawmakers: You really want these tanks, huh? Army: No, not really. Lawmakers: Come on... you know you want 'em. Army: Goddammit we said "No"   (security.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 306
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2012-10-12 09:48:10 AM

liam76: Back to puppies?

What is really sad about your fundamental dishonesty here (what bibi actually said, trying to support your 'smoking crater' argument with air fields but really only mean bombing some airfields, etc) is that I have specifically addressed that BS point. Saying he doesn't want to turn iran into a smoking crater doesn't have fark all to do with puppies.

It is like whackamole of lies with you whenever Israel is involved.


Man that is unbelievably pathetic even for you. You are really flailing in this one. It really upsets you when someone presents the reality of what the splendid little war you are pumping for would actually be like doesn't it?
 
2012-10-12 09:59:15 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Back to puppies?

What is really sad about your fundamental dishonesty here (what bibi actually said, trying to support your 'smoking crater' argument with air fields but really only mean bombing some airfields, etc) is that I have specifically addressed that BS point. Saying he doesn't want to turn iran into a smoking crater doesn't have fark all to do with puppies.

It is like whackamole of lies with you whenever Israel is involved.

Man that is unbelievably pathetic even for you. You are really flailing in this one. It really upsets you when someone presents the reality of what the splendid little war you are pumping for would actually be like doesn't it?


No what is pathetic is you not being able to make 1 post without lying or making shiat up (keep bringing up that reality that you obviously don't understand).

I am not for bombing Iran.

That doesn't stop me from pointing out your lies.
 
2012-10-12 10:05:40 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Back to puppies?

What is really sad about your fundamental dishonesty here (what bibi actually said, trying to support your 'smoking crater' argument with air fields but really only mean bombing some airfields, etc) is that I have specifically addressed that BS point. Saying he doesn't want to turn iran into a smoking crater doesn't have fark all to do with puppies.

It is like whackamole of lies with you whenever Israel is involved.

Man that is unbelievably pathetic even for you. You are really flailing in this one. It really upsets you when someone presents the reality of what the splendid little war you are pumping for would actually be like doesn't it?

No what is pathetic is you not being able to make 1 post without lying or making shiat up (keep bringing up that reality that you obviously don't understand).

I am not for bombing Iran.

That doesn't stop me from pointing out your lies.


You aren't for bombing Iran? So what do you think Israel and the US should do if Iran goes past the magical "red line"? Would you unequivocally condemn military action in response?
 
2012-10-12 10:17:20 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: You aren't for bombing Iran? So what do you think Israel and the US should do if Iran goes past the magical "red line"? Would you unequivocally condemn military action in response?


I would be more than happy to engage in what if's with a rational honest person I could exchange ideas with.

That isn't you.

Bibi is for setting a redline and bombing nuclear facilities if Iran crosses it, you pretend that means he wants to turn the country into a smoking crater.

Even somebody as hawkish as he is knows that would unify every muslim in the world, and give weight to MB type groups in the "arab srping" to get serious about destroying Israel vice using it as a distraction from their own messes.
 
2012-10-12 10:32:52 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: You aren't for bombing Iran? So what do you think Israel and the US should do if Iran goes past the magical "red line"? Would you unequivocally condemn military action in response?

I would be more than happy to engage in what if's with a rational honest person I could exchange ideas with.

That isn't you.

Bibi is for setting a redline and bombing nuclear facilities if Iran crosses it, you pretend that means he wants to turn the country into a smoking crater.

Even somebody as hawkish as he is knows that would unify every muslim in the world, and give weight to MB type groups in the "arab srping" to get serious about destroying Israel vice using it as a distraction from their own messes.


So now you admit that Bibi is in favor of bombing Iran, which you are not. It's nice to see you oppose an Israeli policy for once.

But as I pointed out above, it isn't simply a matter of bombing the nuclear facilitates alone. That's why Bibi is anxious to get the US involved. Israel simply does not have the capabilities required for the type of sustained and widespread bombing campaign that would be required to eliminate Iran's nuclear program, both due to the nature of the nuclear targets themselves (see my reference to Fordow above) and due to the the wide array of other targets that would have to be hit in order to eliminate Iranian threats to the strike forces. Neither the US or Israel is going to fly multiple missions deep into Iran without eliminating the air defense system of Iran. Even the most minimal program required would be widespread enough to trigger the very backlash you fear. And that's without even considering what military actions would result for Iranian counter measure s such as attacking US shipping an forces in the Persian Gulf.
 
2012-10-12 10:55:53 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: So now you admit that Bibi is in favor of bombing Iran, which you are not.


Can't get through your first sentence without lying, can you?

Bibi is for setting a redline and bombing nuclear facilities if Iran crosses it:


I am for shooting you if you break into my house in the middle of the night.

Do you think it is honest to change that to "I am for shooting you"?
Do you think it is honest to change that to "I am for shooting you execution style and mutilating your dead body"?


It's nice to see you oppose an Israeli policy for once.

Two for two with the lies!!!
 
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