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2012-10-09 08:38:16 PM
craig treadway.

why do black people always have the coolest names.
 
2012-10-09 08:41:32 PM
Bully for you, son
 
2012-10-09 09:21:23 PM
I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.
 
2012-10-09 09:26:22 PM
When I was in high school I thought zero-tolerance rules were a bad idea. I have to wonder how much they cause additional problems since it just seems like another way to make sure the victim stays a victim.
 
2012-10-09 09:32:35 PM

Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.


But they're just kids being kids!!!!

/likes your terms better
 
2012-10-09 09:38:46 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

But they're just kids being kids!!!!

/likes your terms better


Some adults still behave this way. It is a personality defect.
 
2012-10-09 09:38:56 PM

SpikeStrip: craig treadway.

why do black people always have the coolest names.


i232.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-09 10:17:44 PM

SpikeStrip: craig treadway.

why do black people always have the coolest names.


billfoxrocks.com

No shiat!
 
2012-10-09 10:20:31 PM

Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.


blog.constitutioncenter.org

BULLY! 

/agree it's overused
 
2012-10-09 10:21:36 PM

AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

But they're just kids being kids!!!!

/likes your terms better

Some adults still behave this way. It is a personality defect.


I have a 42-year-old guy at work who's one of the biggest bullys I know.

/I keep telling him he needs therapy
 
2012-10-09 10:45:11 PM

Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.


One man's torture, intimidation, humiliation and assault are another man's fun, mirth, delight and merriment⸮
 
2012-10-09 10:57:53 PM
This is a problem with the snowflake generation. Kids don't even care if there's a camera around. I think they prefer it. Perhaps a public swift kick to the nuts are what a lot of these kid terrors need, but I'm sure they would just love the attention that would create.

/In before the rain.
 
2012-10-09 11:51:32 PM

Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.


Seriously, this. Kids chasing other kids to beat them? That was not how bullying worked in my day, and I was bullied. It wasn't nice but it wasn't this ... physical.
 
2012-10-10 12:36:05 AM

coco ebert: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

Seriously, this. Kids chasing other kids to beat them? That was not how bullying worked in my day, and I was bullied. It wasn't nice but it wasn't this ... physical.


Girls bully others but usually don't resort to physical violence. Cruelty, slandering gossip, etc are the preferred tools.
Those boys showing such disregard for witnesses and cameras is indicative of a serious problem.
 
2012-10-10 01:55:46 AM
FTFA: "They didn't even care I was standing there and yelling at them."

Wow, that didn't work? I'm shocked!
 
2012-10-10 01:56:23 AM
I'm a dweeb and was bullied in school... but just LOOKING at that blonde bowl cut makes me want to dump him upside-down in a trashcan.
 
2012-10-10 02:00:13 AM
Can some of you web gurus explain to me why so many sites: DailyMail, HuffPo, AOL will have autoplay video AND place that autoplay video at the bottom of the page?

What is rationale for that?
 
2012-10-10 02:01:07 AM
What is the more credible news source, Daily Mail or The Onion?
 
2012-10-10 02:01:40 AM
Stupid tag was busy being bullied,then?
 
2012-10-10 02:03:28 AM
Bullies are untouchables typically, both from the students and the despicable faculty (some of them are good people though).

And if they happen to be football players? Hah. You should be ashamed for trying to resist. 

/not many pleasant memories of high school unless you count revenge fantasies
 
2012-10-10 02:05:08 AM
Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.
 
2012-10-10 02:05:29 AM
Bullying is not something you can just "get over". It becomes part of who you are and your outlook towards others is shaped by your bad experiences.

I wasn't bullied. Rather, I was a bully, in the broadest sense of the term. I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet. I've stolen their books and locked their lockers with padlocks. It's something that I've grown out of, but I still carry around a little bit of that in me.

Telling someone to get over it is pretty callous. It negates their experiences and feelings. Rather, we should find ways to accept it as something that happened in the past and move on, accepting that there are scars that may never fully heal over.
 
2012-10-10 02:06:27 AM
Some asshats tried to bully me and my brother in 1st grade till we told our bigger cousin.
/First and only time ever I seen three dudes get their ass kicked by one person in real life.
 
2012-10-10 02:08:02 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: Some asshats tried to bully me and my brother in 1st grade till we told our bigger cousin.
/First and only time ever I seen three dudes get their ass kicked by one person in real life.


Man, that's nothing. I could probably beat up FOUR first-graders at once.
 
2012-10-10 02:10:38 AM
Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example. In all honesty, if they assaulted someone in front of an adult with a video camera, they need a serious wake-up call right now anyway - that might do the job where other things have failed.
 
2012-10-10 02:12:05 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: Some asshats tried to bully me and my brother in 1st grade till we told our bigger cousin.
/First and only time ever I seen three dudes get their ass kicked by one person in real life.


Being the youngest of many siblings, I loved it when people who didn't know who I was tried to bully me. All I had to do was mention my last name. Problem solved.
 
2012-10-10 02:12:20 AM
So, the bullying wasn't filmed? Just showed the kid running across the street?
 
2012-10-10 02:12:40 AM

Earguy: Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?


It's starting to look like a triple-bully.
 
2012-10-10 02:13:27 AM
I used to get picked on a little in grade school and junior high (partly because my mother allowed me to dress myself, which in retrospect was a terrible idea). Somehow I kind of grew out of it around freshman year, and I think maturing plus my mom's death put me in the mind set that I just didn't care anymore if people were being stupid and belittling. I also made a few older friends, which probably helped.

Anytime someone asks if I could go back and do it all over with my current knowledge, I answer HELL YES, because I'd rule that damn school.
 
2012-10-10 02:15:14 AM
Make Bullying kill itself.
 
2012-10-10 02:15:51 AM

BoxOfBees: So, the bullying wasn't filmed? Just showed the kid running across the street?


That confused me too. If it wasn't filmed, what the hell was that? A really good sketch?
 
2012-10-10 02:15:52 AM

Mitrovarr: Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example. In all honesty, if they assaulted someone in front of an adult with a video camera, they need a serious wake-up call right now anyway - that might do the job where other things have failed.


It's the Mail. Taking them seriously means we have to doubt children as a concept even exist now, let alone any of these kids bullied one another or the township is real or the kids aren't just some actors.
 
2012-10-10 02:21:12 AM
I'm lucky enough to have experienced very little physical bullying. Ostracism, taunting, that sort of thing. It's hard to say whether I'm a geeky non-athletic introvert because of the social bullying or I got bullied because I'm a geeky non-athletic introvert.

Either way, it kind of reached a plateau in junior high and high school, when I was in a school large enough to have enough geeky introverts that we could form our own clique. From there I pretty much didn't suffer from bullying much at all.

The only exception was gym class in junior high, where you had the antisocial and not-so-bright sorts that had got held back a couple times and so were two to three years older than the other kids. Fortunately for me, the coaches were actually fairly alert and didn't put up with too much bullshiat, so they never got away with very much (a little shoving around, noogies, the sorts of things that can be accomplished quickly while the coach isn't looking, and without leaving a mark). I do remember a time when the gym class bullies were trying to stuff some other kid (even scrawnier than me) into a big heavy trash can, and I dragged the can away before they could stuff him in. They did turn on me and push me around a bit, but the coach called for everyone to come in, and they laid off.

I like to say I've been through just enough bullying to sympathize with people who've been really bullied, but not enough to be too badly warped by it.
 
2012-10-10 02:21:17 AM
This case is exceptional. The bullies either really do not care, which is a problem as traditional methods of discipline will almost certainly fail, or are looking for attention, in which case they need to get some (though perhaps not the kind they are looking for.) In any case, reporting the incident to the police and having video and eyewitness proof ready should put a swift end to this particular situation.

In terms of general bullying, we need to make it clear that students should not have to worry about their personal safety in schools. If a person is being intimidated, threatened, and/or assaulted, the victim should report the matter, preferably before violence results, and should feel free to defend him/herself if it results in a fight.
 
2012-10-10 02:26:04 AM

doglover: Mitrovarr: Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example. In all honesty, if they assaulted someone in front of an adult with a video camera, they need a serious wake-up call right now anyway - that might do the job where other things have failed.

It's the Mail. Taking them seriously means we have to doubt children as a concept even exist now, let alone any of these kids bullied one another or the township is real or the kids aren't just some actors.


The majority of the Daily Mail stories come from a soundstage in Essex.
 
2012-10-10 02:26:46 AM
Yo dog, I heard you like to talk about being bullied while you are being bullied.
 
2012-10-10 02:27:51 AM
Interesting this should come out now.

Last week, my 13 year old granddaughter was being verbally harassed at her middle school by some boys who have been pulling this shiat since 6th grade. She got pissed off and punched one of them out. for that, she got sent home for the rest of the day. When her step-father went down to the school to pick her up and inquire about the incident, he asked what happened to the boys. They refused to tell him any more than that they "had consequences."

WTF?

Today, I learned the boy was joking about it in front of my granddaughter and she replied, "Yeah, it's pretty funny you got punched out by a girl."

I've got a feeling things are going to get interesting, especially since her mother, my daughter, is going down there for parent/teacher conferences tomorrow with fire in her eye. She's 6'1" and doesn't suffer fools.
 
2012-10-10 02:27:58 AM

doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.


Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."
 
2012-10-10 02:31:33 AM
Came for the picture of Xzibit, leaving disappointed.
 
2012-10-10 02:33:54 AM

Mithiwithi: I'm lucky enough to have experienced very little physical bullying. Ostracism, taunting, that sort of thing. It's hard to say whether I'm a geeky non-athletic introvert because of the social bullying or I got bullied because I'm a geeky non-athletic introvert.

Either way, it kind of reached a plateau in junior high and high school, when I was in a school large enough to have enough geeky introverts that we could form our own clique. From there I pretty much didn't suffer from bullying much at all.

The only exception was gym class in junior high, where you had the antisocial and not-so-bright sorts that had got held back a couple times and so were two to three years older than the other kids. Fortunately for me, the coaches were actually fairly alert and didn't put up with too much bullshiat, so they never got away with very much (a little shoving around, noogies, the sorts of things that can be accomplished quickly while the coach isn't looking, and without leaving a mark). I do remember a time when the gym class bullies were trying to stuff some other kid (even scrawnier than me) into a big heavy trash can, and I dragged the can away before they could stuff him in. They did turn on me and push me around a bit, but the coach called for everyone to come in, and they laid off.

I like to say I've been through just enough bullying to sympathize with people who've been really bullied, but not enough to be too badly warped by it.


Sounds a lot like my experience as a young person. I always feel I have to qualify the statement "I was a geek in high school." Yes, I got picked on, but nowhere near as bad as some kids.
 
2012-10-10 02:38:48 AM

Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."


I usually fought my fights outside of school. It was hilarious going to the administrators office the next day with a bruised swollen hand and a black eye and denying absolutely everything.

"Now we know you were in a fight. We have several sources."
"I have no idea what you're talking about."
"We've heard there is a video tape of the fight."
"I have no idea what you're talking about."
"Well I guess you're just like your brothers. Go back to class."

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-10 02:39:31 AM

Aulus: Interesting this should come out now.

Last week, my 13 year old granddaughter was being verbally harassed at her middle school by some boys who have been pulling this shiat since 6th grade. She got pissed off and punched one of them out. for that, she got sent home for the rest of the day. When her step-father went down to the school to pick her up and inquire about the incident, he asked what happened to the boys. They refused to tell him any more than that they "had consequences."

WTF?

Today, I learned the boy was joking about it in front of my granddaughter and she replied, "Yeah, it's pretty funny you got punched out by a girl."

I've got a feeling things are going to get interesting, especially since her mother, my daughter, is going down there for parent/teacher conferences tomorrow with fire in her eye. She's 6'1" and doesn't suffer fools.


What do you mean by "verbal harassment?" It is not all right to punch people, although I am glad that all the school did was send her home for the day. The boys should also be punished, but children will tease other children, and your grand daughter should learn to respond in words (like she did the second time,) or ignore the dolts. Violence should only be employed to defend against violence.
 
2012-10-10 02:39:40 AM
And the Daily Fail's hatred of and shaming of America continues.
 
2012-10-10 02:40:10 AM

AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

But they're just kids being kids!!!!

/likes your terms better

Some adults still behave this way. It is a personality defect.


Be the anti-bully bully....and punch them in the farkin' face.
 
2012-10-10 02:41:08 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Bullying is not something you can just "get over". It becomes part of who you are and your outlook towards others is shaped by your bad experiences.

I wasn't bullied. Rather, I was a bully, in the broadest sense of the term. I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet. I've stolen their books and locked their lockers with padlocks. It's something that I've grown out of, but I still carry around a little bit of that in me.

Telling someone to get over it is pretty callous. It negates their experiences and feelings. Rather, we should find ways to accept it as something that happened in the past and move on, accepting that there are scars that may never fully heal over.


I now have you favorited as "Blue : Douche"
 
2012-10-10 02:42:43 AM

Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.


I like this.
 
2012-10-10 02:42:46 AM

PacManDreaming: One man's torture, intimidation, humiliation and assault are another man's fun, mirth, delight and merriment⸮


Yeah, that video was pretty damn funny. I guess it was supposed to be serious and
solemn, like seeing a rape or murder caught on tape, but I couldn't stop chuckling.

Wayne 985: Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."


Sure they can. A repeat offender gets in a fight with a straight A student that's never had any problems and you think they should get the same punishment?
 
2012-10-10 02:43:54 AM

farkingismybusiness: doglover: Mitrovarr: Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example. In all honesty, if they assaulted someone in front of an adult with a video camera, they need a serious wake-up call right now anyway - that might do the job where other things have failed.

It's the Mail. Taking them seriously means we have to doubt children as a concept even exist now, let alone any of these kids bullied one another or the township is real or the kids aren't just some actors.

The majority of the Daily Mail stories come from a soundstage in Essex.


Here is the original story with the reporter that was involved explaining what had happened. By the way the bully didn't care about the camera crew being there and how the school said it is working to identify the bully from the tape, I'm pretty sure that the bullies are kids of either very prominent rich people in the community, school administrators, or high ranking cops.
 
2012-10-10 02:44:19 AM

Mazzic518: AverageAmericanGuy: Bullying is not something you can just "get over". It becomes part of who you are and your outlook towards others is shaped by your bad experiences.

I wasn't bullied. Rather, I was a bully, in the broadest sense of the term. I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet. I've stolen their books and locked their lockers with padlocks. It's something that I've grown out of, but I still carry around a little bit of that in me.

Telling someone to get over it is pretty callous. It negates their experiences and feelings. Rather, we should find ways to accept it as something that happened in the past and move on, accepting that there are scars that may never fully heal over.

I now have you favorited as "Blue : Douche"


www.m3post.com
 
2012-10-10 02:46:17 AM

Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."


I used to not fight back for just that reason. My mom was told when I was in the 4th grade by the principal that if I managed to hurt the bullies, he would make sure that I didn't get in trouble for it. He knew I wasn't a troublemaker and that they started the fights.

/started taking martial arts after that
//parents had me yanked and put into a private school before I could take up the principal's suggestion
 
2012-10-10 02:47:02 AM

ExcaliburPrime111: Aulus: Interesting this should come out now.

Last week, my 13 year old granddaughter was being verbally harassed at her middle school by some boys who have been pulling this shiat since 6th grade. She got pissed off and punched one of them out. for that, she got sent home for the rest of the day. When her step-father went down to the school to pick her up and inquire about the incident, he asked what happened to the boys. They refused to tell him any more than that they "had consequences."

WTF?

Today, I learned the boy was joking about it in front of my granddaughter and she replied, "Yeah, it's pretty funny you got punched out by a girl."

I've got a feeling things are going to get interesting, especially since her mother, my daughter, is going down there for parent/teacher conferences tomorrow with fire in her eye. She's 6'1" and doesn't suffer fools.

What do you mean by "verbal harassment?" It is not all right to punch people, although I am glad that all the school did was send her home for the day. The boys should also be punished, but children will tease other children, and your grand daughter should learn to respond in words (like she did the second time,) or ignore the dolts. Violence should only be employed to defend against violence.


Yup, you are right.

However, when the harassment has gone on for two years and the school has done exactly zip to stop it, despite all their claims of stopping bullying, I think she can be excused for losing it, just that once.

Also, as you might have missed it, she is responding back now with words but the boys now also know that when it crosses the line, they are not safe.
 
2012-10-10 02:47:43 AM

BolloxReader: Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."

I used to not fight back for just that reason. My mom was told when I was in the 4th grade by the principal that if I managed to hurt the bullies, he would make sure that I didn't get in trouble for it. He knew I wasn't a troublemaker and that they started the fights.

/started taking martial arts after that
//parents had me yanked and put into a private school before I could take up the principal's suggestion


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/Will Smith Chicken Sandwich
 
2012-10-10 02:49:48 AM

ongbok: farkingismybusiness: doglover: Mitrovarr: Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example. In all honesty, if they assaulted someone in front of an adult with a video camera, they need a serious wake-up call right now anyway - that might do the job where other things have failed.

It's the Mail. Taking them seriously means we have to doubt children as a concept even exist now, let alone any of these kids bullied one another or the township is real or the kids aren't just some actors.

The majority of the Daily Mail stories come from a soundstage in Essex.

Here is the original story with the reporter that was involved explaining what had happened. By the way the bully didn't care about the camera crew being there and how the school said it is working to identify the bully from the tape, I'm pretty sure that the bullies are kids of either very prominent rich people in the community, school administrators, or high ranking cops.


I dunno. This sounds suspiciously like the Squishy Tits storyline in Wilfred.
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2012-10-10 02:52:44 AM

Mazzic518: AverageAmericanGuy: Bullying is not something you can just "get over". It becomes part of who you are and your outlook towards others is shaped by your bad experiences.

I wasn't bullied. Rather, I was a bully, in the broadest sense of the term. I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet. I've stolen their books and locked their lockers with padlocks. It's something that I've grown out of, but I still carry around a little bit of that in me.

Telling someone to get over it is pretty callous. It negates their experiences and feelings. Rather, we should find ways to accept it as something that happened in the past and move on, accepting that there are scars that may never fully heal over.

I now have you favorited as "Blue : Douche"


Cool! I hope it's a nice blue like Blue 3.
 
2012-10-10 02:57:01 AM

farkingismybusiness: ongbok: farkingismybusiness: doglover: Mitrovarr: Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example. In all honesty, if they assaulted someone in front of an adult with a video camera, they need a serious wake-up call right now anyway - that might do the job where other things have failed.

It's the Mail. Taking them seriously means we have to doubt children as a concept even exist now, let alone any of these kids bullied one another or the township is real or the kids aren't just some actors.

The majority of the Daily Mail stories come from a soundstage in Essex.

Here is the original story with the reporter that was involved explaining what had happened. By the way the bully didn't care about the camera crew being there and how the school said it is working to identify the bully from the tape, I'm pretty sure that the bullies are kids of either very prominent rich people in the community, school administrators, or high ranking cops.

I dunno. This sounds suspiciously like the Squishy Tits storyline in Wilfred.
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I love Wilfred.
 
2012-10-10 03:00:29 AM

Pete_T_Mann: PacManDreaming: One man's torture, intimidation, humiliation and assault are another man's fun, mirth, delight and merriment⸮

Yeah, that video was pretty damn funny. I guess it was supposed to be serious and
solemn, like seeing a rape or murder caught on tape, but I couldn't stop chuckling.

Wayne 985: Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."

Sure they can. A repeat offender gets in a fight with a straight A student that's never had any problems and you think they should get the same punishment?


You misunderstand. I'm ridiculing the administrators for their poor judgment.
 
2012-10-10 03:00:58 AM
The "Two students fighting are punished equally" bullshiat was present when I was in high school. It set up an easy system for bullies to abuse, as anyone who was concerned about keeping a clean record wouldn't report it. Seriously, I got detention for reporting that someone punched me. The other student was also given detention. We were then released at the same time from detention to an empty school with no witnesses, he kicked my ass. I didn't report it, because then I'd have been suspended.

fark this system.
 
2012-10-10 03:05:30 AM
So these assholes are on film committing a crime. Why aren't they expelled and in jail?
 
2012-10-10 03:05:40 AM
And I agree with the poster about them likely being well connected. Let me share a story from my junior high school years.
There was a gang of five punks. They did what they wanted and the teachers oddly never corrected them. At the time Magic the Gathering was very popular. The whole library would be filled at lunch with kids quietly playing the game... until the punks walk in and start snatching decks. Just walk up and take it from you. You're just a kid, you call for help, the librarian pretends not to see them. They demand you pay them to get your deck back, you either pay or you never see it again. Eventually we got fed up and we organized. One genius among us organized a petition, we all signed it, and we made a big show presenting it to the principal. It detailed the attacks, names of the attackers, all our signatures, we were really proud of it. Next day, Magic the Gathering was banned.

Oh, it gets better.

Those same punks started wearing their hats backwards as a gang sign, and would harass anyone else wearing their hats backwards. Principal's solution: hats are banned at school. No exceptions. That means our student store sold hats with the school insignia, but you couldn't wear it on school grounds.

Why yes, they WERE the crotchfruit of well connected individuals.
 
2012-10-10 03:07:48 AM

ongbok: farkingismybusiness: doglover: Mitrovarr: Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example. In all honesty, if they assaulted someone in front of an adult with a video camera, they need a serious wake-up call right now anyway - that might do the job where other things have failed.

It's the Mail. Taking them seriously means we have to doubt children as a concept even exist now, let alone any of these kids bullied one another or the township is real or the kids aren't just some actors.

The majority of the Daily Mail stories come from a soundstage in Essex.

Here is the original story with the reporter that was involved explaining what had happened. By the way the bully didn't care about the camera crew being there and how the school said it is working to identify the bully from the tape, I'm pretty sure that the bullies are kids of either very prominent rich people in the community, school administrators, or high ranking cops.


Or they hold key positions on the football team. If you are important enough in sports, you can even get away with rape.
 
2012-10-10 03:11:23 AM

Aulus: Yup, you are right.

However, when the harassment has gone on for two years and the school has done exactly zip to stop it, despite all their claims of stopping bullying, I think she can be excused for losing it, just that once.

Also, as you might have missed it, she is responding back now with words but the boys now also know that when it crosses the line, they are not safe.


No, hes not right. Theres nothing wrong with some people getting a good solid smack in the face, especially when they're provoking someone. Really, it should happen more often. As a matter of fact, it should happen all the time to people like Bloomberg and Limbaugh. You should be proud of your granddaugter, she stopped putting up with their crap and gave em a smack. I'd take that over some mealy larva-child anyday.

Wayne 985: Pete_T_Mann: PacManDreaming: One man's torture, intimidation, humiliation and assault are another man's fun, mirth, delight and merriment⸮

Yeah, that video was pretty damn funny. I guess it was supposed to be serious and
solemn, like seeing a rape or murder caught on tape, but I couldn't stop chuckling.

Wayne 985: Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."

Sure they can. A repeat offender gets in a fight with a straight A student that's never had any problems and you think they should get the same punishment?

You misunderstand. I'm ridiculing the administrators for their poor judgment.


My bad. Broken meter I reckon. Or maybe opiates.
 
2012-10-10 03:12:40 AM

Aulus: Interesting this should come out now.

Last week, my 13 year old granddaughter was being verbally harassed at her middle school by some boys who have been pulling this shiat since 6th grade. She got pissed off and punched one of them out. for that, she got sent home for the rest of the day. When her step-father went down to the school to pick her up and inquire about the incident, he asked what happened to the boys. They refused to tell him any more than that they "had consequences."

WTF?

Today, I learned the boy was joking about it in front of my granddaughter and she replied, "Yeah, it's pretty funny you got punched out by a girl."

I've got a feeling things are going to get interesting, especially since her mother, my daughter, is going down there for parent/teacher conferences tomorrow with fire in her eye. She's 6'1" and doesn't suffer fools.


A friend's daughter was picked on by a boy outside of the school (at the local movie theater). Her father bought her a taser, though she's not allowed to take that to school. If there's ever a repeat of the incident, the kids in for a rather shocking surprise.
 
2012-10-10 03:14:40 AM

Securitywyrm: The "Two students fighting are punished equally" bullshiat was present when I was in high school. It set up an easy system for bullies to abuse, as anyone who was concerned about keeping a clean record wouldn't report it. Seriously, I got detention for reporting that someone punched me. The other student was also given detention. We were then released at the same time from detention to an empty school with no witnesses, he kicked my ass. I didn't report it, because then I'd have been suspended.

fark this system.


You usually have 2 types of bullies in high schools. The kids that are just bad seeds and don't care about their high school record. And the kids whose parents or family are prominent members of the community, so they aren't afraid of getting caught because they know nothing will happen to them.

The system were the victim of the bully gets suspended for fighting back is bs because the only way to stop most bullies is to fight back. When you fight back, even though you may not win, the bully will move on to a target that will be less work. Now if you punish both the bully and the victim for fighting back, you are taking away the victim's only defense from a bully because the bully doesn't care about being punished, or knows they won't be. However the victim usually is a person that does care about school so therefore won't fight back and jeopardize their school performance.
 
2012-10-10 03:17:26 AM
MIchael Doerrer needs to be punched in the face. Acknowledging the problem but punishing this kid for finally standing up for himself? fark him.
 
2012-10-10 03:18:20 AM
Dear Bullies,

Columbine.


Regards,
Bullied Kids.
 
2012-10-10 03:20:30 AM

OgreMagi: If you are important enough in sports, you can even get away with rape.


Is this about Big Ben?
 
2012-10-10 03:21:23 AM

AlwaysRightBoy: AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

But they're just kids being kids!!!!

/likes your terms better

Some adults still behave this way. It is a personality defect.

I have a 42-year-old guy at work who's one of the biggest bullys I know.

/I keep telling him he needs therapy


purely psychosomatic

/Lie down on the couch!
//What does that mean?
 
2012-10-10 03:22:36 AM

God-is-a-Taco: Bullies are untouchables typically, both from the students and the despicable faculty (some of them are good people though).


Oh, God. Yes, for some reason just yesterday I was recalling my horrible time in Middle School and how I was bullied by just about everyone in that place (it was kind of a ghetto school of almost all hispanic kids; technically I'm hispanic but I don't really look it in the classical way, and I was newly removed from suburbia to this place, so I really was an easy target as an "other"...)

I would complain to the teachers about somebody kicking me or destroying my stuff or throwing food at me. All they'd do was say "Well, who was it?" Answer: I DON'T KNOW! (Seriously, it's not like they go and introduce themselves before they spit cola in your face.) And so the teachers couldn't or wouldn't do anything.

Very frustrating!
 
2012-10-10 03:22:39 AM

Mock26: Dear Bullies,

Columbine.


Regards,
Bullied Kids.


I thought that wasn't true?
 
2012-10-10 03:22:51 AM

Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."


I can and do.

I've flipped a desk "by accident" to get at someone's hand when one group of boys was making what looked like tin foil wedges to launch at an autistic kid.

It took a lot of willpower to remember I'm not allowed to actually discipline students by my contract and that dragging the boys out of the classroom and making them kneel on the floor and stare at the wall, as they did to violent bullies in my previous (read: better) school. Lucky for all of us, the boys were only making paper wedges from normal paper. They've also been much calmer for a year. I think other teachers have stepped in, too.

But in Japan you've got those 3 year classes you're ALWAYS with all day everyday. So if someone is the bullied kid, it gets BAD. They literally can be bullied to death. While teen suicide rates in Japan are now lower than the US slightly, it's as much because of things like windows that are welded shut and new, jump proof gates in the subway platforms as any real cultural advancement.


But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.
 
2012-10-10 03:23:39 AM
the Daily Fail is trolling you good folks. the kid is wearing his hair like a five year old dressed in a sailor suit by his doting momma. a nun could take one glance and would want to kick the crap out of this twink.
 
2012-10-10 03:25:00 AM
Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."

They can, but I'm sure in today's society they face strict ramifications against it.

CSB time- I wasn't bullied too much in junior high, and not at all in high school. I did get in one fight with a guy I had never had issues with before in 8th grade. He put me in a headlock/chokehold for some unknown reason in drafting class. After struggling proved futile, I responded by hitting him in the head with a t-square. That got him to let go and step back, after which he gave a right to the jaw and I just took it. The teacher saw the punch and gave the other kid detention after we each told our side. Teacher then told me "next time, use a hammer".

Never had ANY issues after that one.
 
2012-10-10 03:28:19 AM
I'm glad the news crew didn't let their responsibility as adults get in the way of their story.

/eyeroll
 
2012-10-10 03:31:49 AM

The Southern Dandy: I'm glad the news crew didn't let their responsibility as adults get in the way of their story.

/eyeroll


They were afraid of the bullies also.
 
2012-10-10 03:32:39 AM

doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.


You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.
 
2012-10-10 03:35:36 AM
My old man used to tell me stories about a one-armed bully that terrorized him in high school. There was this kid that had lost half an arm in a farming accident as a child, so he had one full arm, one overly muscled half-arm, and was a total asshole. He would pick fights with bigger kids, wacking them with this bony, muscly knob, and the other kids would get in trouble because no kid missing his arm could be anything other than a victim.

I had a similar experience when I was in high school, with an asshole that would take off his prosthetic leg and beat kids with it, and then complain that they attacked him.
 
2012-10-10 03:40:58 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.


Just look at Ender Wiggin.
 
2012-10-10 03:42:26 AM

farkingismybusiness: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.

Just look at Ender Wiggin.


The police chief's kid on the Simpson's?
 
2012-10-10 03:43:23 AM

farkingismybusiness: Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."

I usually fought my fights outside of school. It was hilarious going to the administrators office the next day with a bruised swollen hand and a black eye and denying absolutely everything.

"Now we know you were in a fight. We have several sources."
"I have no idea what you're talking about."
"We've heard there is a video tape of the fight."
"I have no idea what you're talking about."
"Well I guess you're just like your brothers. Go back to class."

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When I was in the Navy I loaned a shipmate 50 bucks and 3 pay days later he finally told me straight out he had no intention of paying me back. The next night I threw all of his possessions over-board (I knew where he kept his locker key). A few days later we had a fight and after that I got pulled into the MC's office and he asked me to file a report. I told him I slipped going down the stairs and hit my head on the scuttlebutt. He looked at me and said "You're a good sailor, most now a days are pussies and would rat out their shipmates".
 
2012-10-10 03:43:44 AM

Apos: Stupid tag was busy being bullied,then?


By the Asinine tag. Why do you ask?
 
2012-10-10 03:45:03 AM
Fat newscaster lady, take note. THIS is bullying.
 
2012-10-10 03:45:31 AM
So, how do we know this is bullying? Maybe the kid did something to deserve getting his azz handed to him by an upperclassman. Happened to me plenty.
 
2012-10-10 03:46:28 AM

Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."


At which point, I wonder, can the school be sued as accessory to assault and battery?
 
2012-10-10 03:48:12 AM
Romney was a school bully. It's pretty well documented.
 
2012-10-10 03:50:10 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.


I don't think it's surprising.

You gotta realize some people are literally asking for it. They do everything possible to piss everyone off all the time, and they play the martyr card when everyone's pissed at them. They're like little North Koreas. Those kids aren't really being bullied by bullies so much as they're poisoning their own life. You can do everything and anything you can think of and they'll STILL be bullied because they're the root of the problem. But those kids are very few and far between. No more than one per school in my experience.

FAR, FAR more common, and the cause of more than a little of my liver damage from drinking, are the teachers who are forced to put up with poisoned classrooms by retarded rules and regulations that prevent any real discipline from being enforced. I have a friend with two kids. He can't afford to lose his teaching job or even take a pay cut. He's got a kid in one of his schools now who cuts himself and drinks his own blood in class because the other kids are so cruel to him all the time he's broken in the head now.

And there's very little you can do except try to let the anger go because you don't get to spend much time with the classes and honestly they don't pay you enough to get that involved in your free time, because you have to work three jobs just to make your own ends meet.

So yeah, you can point to rare cases as evidence of something, but I don't give two shiats. Bullies are ALWAYS bad and standing up to them is ALWAYS the right choice.
 
2012-10-10 03:52:17 AM

Securitywyrm: The "Two students fighting are punished equally" bullshiat was present when I was in high school. It set up an easy system for bullies to abuse, as anyone who was concerned about keeping a clean record wouldn't report it. Seriously, I got detention for reporting that someone punched me. The other student was also given detention. We were then released at the same time from detention to an empty school with no witnesses, he kicked my ass. I didn't report it, because then I'd have been suspended.

fark this system.


I was suspended in middle school after a boy pulled my hair in class and when we went to lunch, I kicked him in the back down the stair well. Granted, from their side, I was the bully.
 
2012-10-10 03:59:57 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Bullying is not something you can just "get over". It becomes part of who you are and your outlook towards others is shaped by your bad experiences.

I wasn't bullied. Rather, I was a bully, in the broadest sense of the term. I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet. I've stolen their books and locked their lockers with padlocks. It's something that I've grown out of, but I still carry around a little bit of that in me.

Telling someone to get over it is pretty callous. It negates their experiences and feelings. Rather, we should find ways to accept it as something that happened in the past and move on, accepting that there are scars that may never fully heal over.


From now on, you get the Dennis Leary voice in head.
I bet you even have a nice hardwood floor.
 
2012-10-10 04:00:02 AM

doglover: You gotta realize some people are literally asking for it. They do everything possible to piss everyone off all the time, and they play the martyr card when everyone's pissed at them.


That's sadly true. My 11-yo stepson is regularly bullied, but frankly, it's his own damn fault. He's got absolutely no filter between his brain and his mouth, he has absolutely no social intelligence, and think that if he just says whatever he thinks, people will simply see the light of day, and realise he's right, and if he's right, they can't be mad at him. Mix that with a very egocentric point of view, a very short temper, and an emotional immaturity that makes him sometimes react like a 5-yo, and people very quickly become very pissed at him, and he lose all chances to make friends. You see that every time he gets in a new environnement (new class, club, camp, etc...), where his relations to the whole group deteriorates in a matter of days.
So, yeah, I can understand when those kind of people gets bullied.
But some are bullied only because they are different (gay, geeky, ugly...)
 
2012-10-10 04:07:21 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.


In many if not most cases, bullying in schools happen because teachers want it to. If you have tough, threatening kids in your class you placate them by throwing the nice kids to them. It doesn't have to be all teachers, most teachers or even many teachers, but as long as there are one or two who defer to bullies in this way, bullying will continue.
 
2012-10-10 04:10:19 AM
I was bullied in jr. high and really wish I wasn't such a good kid and listened to grown ups. They all said fighting doesn't solve anything and whatnot.

I wish someone would have just told me it was alright to defend myself. II was huge as a kid, I would have smashed that bully so hard his kids would be born crosseyed.

Let your kids know if they're being beaten and humilitated: fight back.
 
2012-10-10 04:10:48 AM
I credit my bullies with helping develop my super low self esteem. The constant bullying and back-biting by my "friends" was the start of anxiety issues that i still have to this day. Of course I've Facebook stalked them all and in the game that is life....I won!
 
2012-10-10 04:12:13 AM

HotWingAgenda: My old man used to tell me stories about a one-armed bully that terrorized him in high school. There was this kid that had lost half an arm in a farming accident as a child, so he had one full arm, one overly muscled half-arm, and was a total asshole. He would pick fights with bigger kids, wacking them with this bony, muscly knob, and the other kids would get in trouble because no kid missing his arm could be anything other than a victim.

I had a similar experience when I was in high school, with an asshole that would take off his prosthetic leg and beat kids with it, and then complain that they attacked him.


You'd better watch out, I have a feeling your wife might get murdered by a one armed man... I really hope you're not a doctor.
 
2012-10-10 04:13:19 AM
Because of my size and tactless demeanor, I was always pegged by people who did not know me as a bully. Self admittedly, I could never handle the PR, at that time known as student counselor's office, I was a champion of the people, a bully of bullies. Despite the daily beatings I endured from my seven older siblings, I learned to rise above the tacit physical rules of the playground. I would not be subdued by some predetermined pecking order based on family name or reputation. If you wanted to push my friends around, you had to go through me. I broke my fifth metacarpal in my right hand twice in fourth grade standing up for those without a voice.
Were our walls made of steel and concrete? No, they were gathered pine-straw heaps formed to represent walls and passageways. Should the medium of our boundaries dictate the ferocity with which we defend them? As you and your elementary school friends took stance against the foes of your fathers, I stood against you. No longer would the repressions of recess go unheard. It was I who formed the rebellion against you, you potentate of the playground. It was I who gathered the scattered, scared masses and united them against you. Suspension after suspension; lashing after lashing; my determination became as tough as my back against the belt. I made my mission be known that no longer would my peers be bullied by the likes of you. Your end would come. Be it not today or tomorrow, but this I promise to you: I will be there laughing over your body.
Not many seasons would I have to wait for your demise. Your reign of ruthlessness was at hand. I don't know what celestial bodies aligned during your quivering march to the gallows, but the same stellar shadow was cast upon thy father as well. How toothsome it would be to witness the fall of two generations of thugs concomitantly.
That day we were all dressed as one, even you, the oppressor, donning the uniform of the commoner. The sun had passed its apex but was still high in the sky and our shadows short as you stretched your arms upward toward your ultimate demise. I like to think your father was receiving his just comeuppance simultaneously. The entire crowd watched as you grasped onto that horizontal bar, the fair maidens stopping in their march to observe the spectacle. Laughter nipped at your pride like flames licking away the flesh of the Maid of Orleans. Your legs flailing in the air; twelve miles across town, your father slumps into his chair. Even coach in his bike pants is egging you on. Not one pull up, not even one; your bullying days are almost done. A cell phone rings and a call form the factory has let us know that your dad has just been fired, as you fall to the dirt embarrassed and tired. I lift my sneakers and kick in your face. No longer can you threaten us with servitude and disgrace, as you my fiend have just fallen to last in the rat race.
 
2012-10-10 04:18:45 AM
grinnel:

www.pocketberry.com
Wrap it up Charles Dickens. You're not getting paid by the word.
 
2012-10-10 04:18:59 AM

padraig: doglover: You gotta realize some people are literally asking for it. They do everything possible to piss everyone off all the time, and they play the martyr card when everyone's pissed at them.

That's sadly true. My 11-yo stepson is regularly bullied, but frankly, it's his own damn fault. He's got absolutely no filter between his brain and his mouth, he has absolutely no social intelligence, and think that if he just says whatever he thinks, people will simply see the light of day, and realise he's right, and if he's right, they can't be mad at him. Mix that with a very egocentric point of view, a very short temper, and an emotional immaturity that makes him sometimes react like a 5-yo, and people very quickly become very pissed at him, and he lose all chances to make friends. You see that every time he gets in a new environnement (new class, club, camp, etc...), where his relations to the whole group deteriorates in a matter of days.
So, yeah, I can understand when those kind of people gets bullied.
But some are bullied only because they are different (gay, geeky, ugly...)


He reminds me of someone I know very well...
 
2012-10-10 04:22:17 AM

Smiledriver: I was bullied in jr. high and really wish I wasn't such a good kid and listened to grown ups. They all said fighting doesn't solve anything and whatnot.

I wish someone would have just told me it was alright to defend myself. II was huge as a kid, I would have smashed that bully so hard his kids would be born crosseyed.

Let your kids know if they're being beaten and humilitated: fight back.


That really only works if you are big and strong. Bullies are happy enough to go back to picking on kids smaller than them.
 
2012-10-10 04:24:36 AM
It's not bullying. It's assault.
 
2012-10-10 04:29:14 AM
Personally, I think it's good. Kids need to be bullied when they are young.

How else are they going to be good Citizens? Being bullied prepares you for life. You can't stand up for yourself against a cop or the TSA.....you'll end up in jail. No, you bend over and take it like you did in 3rd grade when that big kid beat you for looking at him funny.

Bullying is unpredictable - just like life. There are no reasons or explanations....just like life. It prevents people from noticing the absolute absurdity of our tax systems and legal systems. It teaches people to accept things that would be hard to change and to get used to living with things you hate.
 
2012-10-10 04:36:14 AM

grinnel: Because of my size and tactless demeanor, I was always pegged by people who did not know me as a bully........


But alas, now you're just pegged as TL;DR
 
2012-10-10 04:38:37 AM

grinnel: Because of my size and tactless demeanor, I was always pegged by people who did not know me as a bully.


That was pretty good. Well done, sir (or whoever wrote it if you didn't).
You ADHD guys are missing out.
 
2012-10-10 04:45:04 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally, I think it's good. Kids need to be bullied when they are young.

How else are they going to be good Citizens? Being bullied prepares you for life. You can't stand up for yourself against a cop or the TSA.....you'll end up in jail. No, you bend over and take it like you did in 3rd grade when that big kid beat you for looking at him funny.

Bullying is unpredictable - just like life. There are no reasons or explanations....just like life. It prevents people from noticing the absolute absurdity of our tax systems and legal systems. It teaches people to accept things that would be hard to change and to get used to living with things you hate.


I think the real issue here is that parents are leaving the job of bullying to the other kids in school. Every good parent knows that bullying should begin at home.
 
2012-10-10 05:07:43 AM
I myself was so obnoxious the seniors used to beat me up once a week. So this guy is a total loser?
 
2012-10-10 05:35:33 AM
Nobody has commented yet that the kid's name is Preston Deener? Poor kid was destined for bullying from day one.
 
2012-10-10 05:45:09 AM

ADHD Librarian: AlwaysRightBoy: AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

But they're just kids being kids!!!!

/likes your terms better

Some adults still behave this way. It is a personality defect.

I have a 42-year-old guy at work who's one of the biggest bullys I know.

/I keep telling him he needs therapy

purely psychosomatic

/Lie down on the couch!
//What does that mean?


You're a nut!
You're crazy in the coconut!
 
2012-10-10 05:48:42 AM
Maryland... go figure. I grew up there... they've been practicing stupid for years. I got bullied every day my first year of high school, got beat up pretty good from time to time. I got suspended several times for fighting back. Their mentality is that it's just as bad to fight back as it is to attack someone... so if you get jumped in an MD school, no matter how many people are having a go at you, if you fight back, you're gonna get suspended for the same time as they are. Also, for them, if you just get the crap beat out of you and dont fight back, they say it's your word against the people who beat you up, and without proof, they cant do anything about it.
 
2012-10-10 05:49:41 AM
Before everyone jumps all over the kids accused of performing the bullying, perhaps some perspective is required. Contrary to popular belief, not all children who bully end up as 'poor' adults, and not all children that are bullied (wusses) end up as adults who are too terrified of their own shadow and need help doing up their pants zipper still.

I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being pushed around by better kids in their youth. Actually, not a single person said a nasty word to me the entire time, they could all see how well i've done for myself since HS, I honestly think the look back at those formative years on the playground and thank me silently for what I did.

What I did toughened those loser kids up, and that is a fact. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, that is life. We need to step back as parents and let kids be kids. I am all grown up now and have my own kids, two wonderful boys. They remind us of me at my age, dominant, aggressive and full of energy. They are already taking over the other boys in social settings, this isn't something you want to neuter in your child, rather cultivate in a healthy fashion. I'm sure both of my boys bully other weaker and timid kids at school. Big deal, that's life and everyone finds their way eventually.
 
2012-10-10 05:55:04 AM
One of the guys that picked on me in Elementary school was probably gay and didn't know how to deal with it.
 
2012-10-10 06:02:21 AM

PrinceofFark: Before everyone jumps all over the kids accused of performing the bullying, perhaps some perspective is required. Contrary to popular belief, not all children who bully end up as 'poor' adults, and not all children that are bullied (wusses) end up as adults who are too terrified of their own shadow and need help doing up their pants zipper still.

I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being p ...


The subtlety of this troll post is really a sight to behold. It transcends mere words. I'd consider it an art form, really. You aren't a prince, my friend. You are the King. All hail the king!
 
2012-10-10 06:05:33 AM

Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.


If you're applying adult standards to the situation, you should note that the one kid's story about being bullied is entirely anecdotal and no actual assault was filmed. The only verifiable fact in it is that the "bullied" kid has previously assaulted one of the others and gotten no more than a slap on the wrist penalty for it, which would sort of short out my sympathy for an adult. There is a reason we apply different standards to children.

And if you're applying any standards whatsoever you should note that this is a Daily Mail article, i.e. fake/staged.
 
2012-10-10 06:24:01 AM

Atomic Spunk: PrinceofFark: Before everyone jumps all over the kids accused of performing the bullying, perhaps some perspective is required. Contrary to popular belief, not all children who bully end up as 'poor' adults, and not all children that are bullied (wusses) end up as adults who are too terrified of their own shadow and need help doing up their pants zipper still.

I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and ge ...


Only problem is it is too far into the thread. Good trolls have to get in early.
 
2012-10-10 06:37:03 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob:
Only problem is it is too far into the thread. Good trolls have to get in early.


Nah, this thread will make it to 200 or so.
The problem is that the same schtick was done earlier, but admittedly in a less thorough manner.

I hope to see earlier attempts, Prince, you have the skills. (or copy pasta, whichever)
 
2012-10-10 06:37:44 AM
Whomever this bully is, he seems to be a real future serial killer in the making. How dim & deranged must you be to actually go out and attack a kid on camera in full view of a new crew and their cameras? Bet his parents are Teabaggers with Romney signs in each corner of their front yard.

And the whole school staff from the Principal on down to the lunch lady need to be fired for this. They have video proof that they have a violent monster running loose in their school, and all they do is "look into it"? If this sort of thing happened at a factory or office building, the boss would have been taken away in handcuffs along with the perp for negligence that very day. Just because it's a school is no excuse to cut this sort of behavior any slack.

I mean yeah. The kid does have the "circumcised dick head" haircut, but that doesn't mean it's legal to attack him on sight. Point and laugh at him maybe, but not assault.
 
2012-10-10 06:37:50 AM
Happened to me in middle school, 7th and 8th grade. Then my family moved to another part of town and I went to a different school. I swore to myself I wasnt going to put up with that shiat ever again. Started 9th grade, and found one of the bullies from my old school had moved as well, and he immediately started in on me. He slapped me in woodshop, and I went after him, we fought for a few minutes, neither of us winning, but the shop teacher stood there and let us go at it. He kept us after, and gave both of us a choice, going to the principal, and making sure both our families were made fully aware of what happened, or we could stretch out on the work bench and get an attitude adjustment. We both chose the second. Still not sure that was a good idea, but I damn sure didnt want to get home and face my Dad for fighting in school. I had trouble sitting for a couple of days, but I never got any crap from anyone after that either. Had no idea the teacher was basically monitoring the fight just to make sure we didnt cause each other any real damage till the next day when a friend told me. I still look up to him for that.

I think bullying is a crime. If adults did this, they get arrested and locked up. Not saying all kids should get locked up for this, but bullies need to receive enough punishment for this crap that they decide its not worth the 60 seconds of stupid pleasure they get out of it.
 
2012-10-10 06:42:56 AM

PrinceofFark: I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being pushed around by better kids in their youth. Actually, not a single person said a nasty word to me the entire time, they could all see how well i've done for myself since HS, I honestly think the look back at those formative years on the playground and thank me silently for what I did.

What I did toughened those loser kids up, and that is ...




Or more likely, that Secret Service squad you had surrounding you kept you from a proper payback, Mister Romney.
 
2012-10-10 06:45:53 AM
PrinceofFark: I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being pushed around by better kids in their youth. Actually, not a single person said a nasty word to me the entire time, they could all see how well i've done for myself since HS, I honestly think the look back at those formative years on the playground and thank me silently for what I did.

What I did toughened those loser kids up, and that is ...



Or more likely, that Secret Service squad you had surrounding you kept you from a proper payback, Mister Romney.


A Troll responding to a Troll.....
 
2012-10-10 06:48:13 AM
Oh, hey, I have a solution, stop punishing the victims when they stand up for themselves! Bullies now have a pool of timid easy prey because fighting back will get them in trouble.
 
2012-10-10 06:48:17 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.


I was lucky once that one of my teachers took my side when I was bullied. This kid was bold enough to bully me in class in front of everyone, and I finally fired back back by calling him a very stupid name (horsey petunia). The entire class laughed and not AT me for a change. The teacher got such a kick out of my name-calling that she called the bully by the same name. The other kids did the same thing. That bully left me alone for the rest of the year.

He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.
 
2012-10-10 07:01:30 AM

ms_lara_croft: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.

I was lucky once that one of my teachers took my side when I was bullied. This kid was bold enough to bully me in class in front of everyone, and I finally fired back back by calling him a very stupid name (horsey petunia). The entire class laughed and not AT me for a change. The teacher got such a kick out of my name-calling that she called the bully by the same name. The other kids did the same thing. That bully left me alone for the rest of the year.

He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.


There was a boy in middle school who made my life miserable. He had the locker right next to mine, and every day was non-stop verbal (and sometimes physical) abuse.

One day, I'd finally had enough, dropped my books, grabbed him by the shoulders, and slammed him against the lockers. I glared up at him (he was a good 5 or 6 inches taller than me), not saying a word, as he looked down at me in total disbelief. I then let go, turned around, and walked away, while the kids around us let out a collective "Holy shiat!"

He ended up following me around like a puppy dog until I moved away during my sophomore year in high school.

/still keep in touch with him on FB
 
2012-10-10 07:16:13 AM

Commander_Neckbeard: Oh, hey, I have a solution, stop punishing the victims when they stand up for themselves! Bullies now have a pool of timid easy prey because fighting back will get them in trouble.


Unless the administrators have clear proof (above what one student says) they have no way to defend themselves from charges of favoritism if they don't punisht he "victim" when they hit someone. Read through these comments, everyoen crying about "connected" kids getting away with it. What do you think the complaints would be like if teachers were excusing some assaults because in their view the kids doing it were bullied?
 
2012-10-10 07:16:34 AM

KellyKellyKelly: ms_lara_croft: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.

I was lucky once that one of my teachers took my side when I was bullied. This kid was bold enough to bully me in class in front of everyone, and I finally fired back back by calling him a very stupid name (horsey petunia). The entire class laughed and not AT me for a change. The teacher got such a kick out of my name-calling that she called the bully by the same name. The other kids did the same thing. That bully left me alone for the rest of the year.

He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.

There was a boy in middle school who made my life miserable. He had the locker right next to mine, and every day was non-stop verbal (and sometimes physical) abuse.

One day, I'd finally had enough, dropped my books, grabbed him by the shoulders, and slammed him against the lockers. I glared up at him (he was a good 5 or 6 inches taller than me), not saying a word, as he looked down at me in total disbelief. I then let go, turned around, and walked away, while the kids around us let out a collective "Holy shiat!"

He ended up following me around like a puppy dog until I moved away during my sophomore year in high school.

/still keep in touch with him on FB


No one pointed out to you that he obviously liked you? That's textbook.
 
2012-10-10 07:17:10 AM

KrispyKritter: the Daily Fail is trolling you good folks. the kid is wearing his hair like a five year old dressed in a sailor suit by his doting momma. a nun could take one glance and would want to kick the crap out of this twink.


Funny. In my school the nuns WERE the biggest bullies. We hated those farking terrorist penguins. Maybe having a common enemy like that made real bullying less of a problem.
 
2012-10-10 07:18:09 AM

Mock26: Dear Bullies,

Columbine.


Regards,
Bullied Kids.


Please report to yesterday's "Columbine shooters were the bullies, not the bullied" thread. Read the linked book. Those two used to do shiat like follow mentally disabled students around bouncing basketballs off the back of their heads until they cried.
 
2012-10-10 07:19:33 AM
Just keep filming, don't try and help the kid
 
2012-10-10 07:22:52 AM
Please report to yesterday's "Columbine shooters were the bullies, not the bullied" thread. Read the linked book. Those two used to do shiat like follow mentally disabled students around bouncing basketballs off the back of their heads until they cried.

Damn, really? Well then it really was Manson's fault......son of a b*tch

Doctor Jan Itor: One of the guys that picked on me in Elementary school was probably gay and didn't know how to deal with it.


There were two guys in my town who used to beat the sh*t out of just about anyone and everyone. After I came back to visit one time I found out the one guy came out of the closet, has a boyfriend and is the nicest guy ever and the other one got a good job and got his teeth fixed (his parents were abusive and poor, never taking him to the dentist and doctor) and is now also the nicest guy ever.
 
2012-10-10 07:25:36 AM
No such thing as bullying, just weak kids and strong kids. Weak ones need to learn their place early. The world needs ditch diggers too.
 
2012-10-10 07:25:51 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally, I think it's good. Kids need to be bullied when they are young.

How else are they going to be good Citizens? Being bullied prepares you for life. You can't stand up for yourself against a cop or the TSA.....you'll end up in jail. No, you bend over and take it like you did in 3rd grade when that big kid beat you for looking at him funny.


I was going to say something along the lines of "stupid or troll," but maybe you're just making a snarky comment on life in the US ...?
 
2012-10-10 07:27:45 AM

davidphogan: When I was in high school I thought zero-tolerance rules were a bad idea. I have to wonder how much they cause additional problems since it just seems like another way to make sure the victim stays a victim.


Really. If I had kids I would teach them how to fight and stand up for themselves. If the school wants to suspend them for that, fark them.
 
2012-10-10 07:29:30 AM

KellyKellyKelly: ms_lara_croft: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.

I was lucky once that one of my teachers took my side when I was bullied. This kid was bold enough to bully me in class in front of everyone, and I finally fired back back by calling him a very stupid name (horsey petunia). The entire class laughed and not AT me for a change. The teacher got such a kick out of my name-calling that she called the bully by the same name. The other kids did the same thing. That bully left me alone for the rest of the year.

He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.

There was a boy in middle school who made my life miserable. He had the locker right next to mine, and every day was non-stop verbal (and sometimes physical) abuse.

One day, I'd finally had enough, dropped my books, grabbed him by the shoulders, and slammed him against the lockers. I glared up at him (he was a good 5 or 6 inches taller than me), not saying a word, as he looked down at me in total disbelief. I then let go, turned around, and walked away, while the kids around us let out a collective "Holy shiat!"

He ended up following me around like a puppy dog until I moved away during my sophomore year in high school.

/still keep in touch with him on FB


I just don't get it. is it just not cool to like some kids so instead they get bullied? It's even less cool to have a crush on a kid who is an outcast. I guess you gain points for torturing those kinds of kids.

I remember a kid who was bullied in elementary school. One of the bullies who was twice his size once told him to not talk, and then he asked him a question. The kid didn't answer and the bully demanded to know why. He said "You just told me to not talk" and he laughed. That somehow broke the bullying spell because I guess those kids didn't expect that kind of answer. The bullies left him alone from that point on. They didn't become friends but they left him alone and picked on someone else.

The crush thing gets me though. Kids really need to learn better courting skills.
 
2012-10-10 07:29:49 AM
The truth is for all the media hype, schools couldn't possibly give less of a fark about bullying. The only thing they understand is threats to their livelihoods, so don't bother with councilors, principals and school boards. Simply lawyer up and call CNN.
 
2012-10-10 07:37:54 AM
this kid needs to sneak up on this guy and smack em in the head with a brick. or perhaps sneak up on him and choke him out and then piss on him.
 
2012-10-10 07:39:29 AM

KellyKellyKelly: He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.

There was a boy in middle school who made my life miserable. He had the locker right next to mine, and every day was non-stop verbal (and sometimes physical) abuse.

One day, I'd finally had enough, dropped my books, grabbed him by the shoulders, and slammed him against the lockers. I glared up at him (he was a good 5 or 6 inches taller than me), not saying a word, as he looked down at me in total disbelief. I then let go, turned around, and walked away, while the kids around us let out a collective "Holy shiat!"

He ended up following me around like a puppy dog until I moved away during my sophomore year in high school.


My daughter has a little boy on her soccer team who has been hurting her at practice every week. Pushing, throwing the elbow, tripping... every week. Subtle enough to be passed off as an accident, or just rough play. I told her it was because she's a better player than him and he can't handle losing every drill to a tiny girl half his size and very cute. And she should respond by upping her game and kicking his ass even more.

Then last week she found a note in her desk, "I really like you," with hearts and smileys and little soccer balls. Yeah, he has stickey notes the color of this note.

Boys are stupid.
 
2012-10-10 07:51:31 AM

ladyfortuna: (partly because my mother allowed me to dress myself, which in retrospect was a terrible idea).


Mrs Wawa and I have the same issue with our daughter (now 8). Left to her own devices, she would dress like a clown. It's a hell of a thing to argue with your kid over - usually "it's for your own good" refers to some benefit that will be reaped far in the future.

It's better now, though. Actually teaching her how to match clothes has helped.
 
2012-10-10 07:53:23 AM

PrinceofFark: Before everyone jumps all over the kids accused of performing the bullying, perhaps some perspective is required. Contrary SNIP ...



0\10 troll points for you
you loose one internet
 
2012-10-10 07:54:31 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet.


calling BS here, just how strong were, are, you?

...troll?
 
2012-10-10 07:55:33 AM

NameDot: AverageAmericanGuy: I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet.

calling BS here, just how strong were, are, you?

...troll?


What, you don't think an average late-30s guy could dangle kids by their ankles? I, for one, believe him totally.
 
GBB
2012-10-10 07:57:31 AM
I was bullied in grade school for several years. Somewhere around 3rd or 4th grade, I had enough. I was hit, tripped, and pushed to the ground. I got up and punched him straight in the throat. It had always been one of my "revenge fantasies" that I never had the nerve to try until then. He went to the hospital. I took a trip to the principal's office. Cops were called. Dad shows up. There were plenty of witnesses that corroborated the event. Administrators kept saying things like, "you should have ran and told a teacher". Tried that, didn't work, several times, a couple were directly to you. "You should never hit back." It's the only solution I hadn't tried, and I was taught that violence should be the last resort.

I was suspended for a week, had to write a half-assed apology. Dad took me on a week's vacation and told me that it's always my responsibility to protect myself, no one elses. I followed their rules and they did nothing to protect me, lesson learned. I stood up for myself and showed that I'm not as weak as my bully assumed, lesson learned.
 
2012-10-10 07:58:45 AM

nonofmybusiness: PrinceofFark: I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being pushed around by better kids in their youth. Actually, not a single person said a nasty word to me the entire time, they could all see how well i've done for myself since HS, I honestly think the look back at those formative years on the playground and thank me silently for what I did.

What I did toughened those loser kids up, and tha ...


Ha.

I never once lost a fight in my entire grade school education, nor did I need any protection. Everyone needed protection from me, I wasn't a loser. Kids will always seek out who the leader is in a group, lock 6 in a room and watch it happen, nothing wrong with that. The weaker kids don't fold on life and give up because they get the toughening they need, they grow up just fine and probably better off for it, because the world isn't a 'nice' place. 

We aren't talking breaking arms and legs here, this is kids being kids, rough housing. Getting slapped around on the playground isn't a life changing event people, it's part of growing up for some kids. They get over it, you will too.
 
2012-10-10 07:59:11 AM

untaken_name: NameDot: AverageAmericanGuy: I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet.

calling BS here, just how strong were, are, you?

...troll?

What, you don't think an average late-30s guy could dangle kids by their ankles? I, for one, believe him totally.


LMAO. You know me too well.
 
2012-10-10 08:01:48 AM
Step one: Lose the buster brown haircut.
 
2012-10-10 08:01:50 AM

PrinceofFark: Ha.

I never once lost a fight in my entire grade school education, nor did I need any protection. Everyone needed protection from me, I wasn't a loser. Kids will always seek out who the leader is in a group, lock 6 in a room and watch it happen, nothing wrong with that. The weaker kids don't fold on life and give up because they get the toughening they need, they grow up just fine and probably better off for it, because the world isn't a 'nice' place.



I think you just outed yourself.
 
2012-10-10 08:05:34 AM

topcon: Step one: Lose the buster brown haircut.


Haha, sooo true! That look all but guarantees the poor shmuck to be viewed as a punching bag.
 
2012-10-10 08:07:49 AM
pressthebuttons.typepad.com

kids did that on purpose
 
2012-10-10 08:09:43 AM
I always hit back, every single time. I made sure anyone attempting to bully me knew it meant pain would come their way. If it becomes painful enough, they stopped. Many times they'd tell me me they'd get me next time, so next time they saw me, I'd initiate the physical contact and let them know I saw them first.

Yes I did get into a lot of fights as a kid, and yes I knew how to fight, but I was getting beat at home, I damn sure wasn't gonna take it from some punk kid when I could take a punch from a full grown man. By the time I hit high school, I was pretty unhinged when people tried to bully me. A few tried it early on, I knocked one out with one punch in front of everyone in the smoking area. Another told me to meet him after school to fight and I told him "what's wrong with right farking now?" and began wailing on him, he ran off in front of everyone. He tried to catch me after school and before he could even start his shiat talking, I began wailing on him, once again, he ran. Yes, I did get my ass kicked a few times, but I went right back after those guys to let them know I am not a target, and though I may get my ass kicked today, one of these tiems I am going to get a lucky shot in and they are gonna come out the worse for wear.

Truth is: Start wailing on them before they can get the words out of their mouths and they don't get the psychological edge on you, they just get punched in the face.
 
2012-10-10 08:13:36 AM
After the incident, Preston explained he ran from the bullies rather than face them as last week he was suspended for three days for hitting one back after they tackled him.

When this happens it's time to call a good lawyer. There's profit in Administrative Bullying.
 
2012-10-10 08:21:14 AM

Mitrovarr


Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example.

^ This.

The "parent" of the victim says she'll take this to the admin? The same admin that has been allowing this for decades? The only reason the admin should see this is because their attorney shows it to them about their defense strategy when being sued for failing to resolve this LONG ago.

This should be taken to the cops
 
2012-10-10 08:26:09 AM
Mock26

Dear Bullies,

Columbine.


Regards,
Bullied Kids.

You might want to check yesterday's columbine thread.
 
2012-10-10 08:26:12 AM
HST's Dead Carcass: and though I may get my ass kicked today, one of these tiems I am going to get a lucky shot in and they are gonna come out the worse for wear.

then stop hanging around high school bullies; you're too old for that, anyhow.
 
2012-10-10 08:26:51 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Only problem is it is too far into the thread. Good trolls have to get in early.


This is what makes serious trolling an expensive prospect - you need a TF account, and you can only use it a few times.
 
2012-10-10 08:29:30 AM
i.imgflip.com
 
2012-10-10 08:32:03 AM
Best way to prevent bullying: Bite the bastards when they try. Often. In sensitive areas.

Worked like a charm for me.
 
2012-10-10 08:33:37 AM
The bullying problem will never be completely resolved as long as we keep teaching kids that is is wrong to exercise their right to defend themselves. Probably not as long as we emphasize proportional response either.
 
2012-10-10 08:38:50 AM

grinnel: Because of my size and tactless demeanor, I was always pegged by people


Damn that's horrible. Daily unwanted peggings is worse than getting bullied.
 
2012-10-10 08:41:51 AM

ongbok: grinnel: Because of my size and tactless demeanor, I was always pegged by people

Damn that's horrible. Daily unwanted peggings is worse than getting bullied.


Some people pay good money for that, you know...
 
2012-10-10 08:45:40 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: LMAO. You know me too well.


If you weren't already favorited for being funny and reasonable, I might go for your trolling attempts. May I suggest an alt?
 
2012-10-10 08:56:21 AM

grinnel: What is the more credible news source, Daily Mail or The Onion?


At least The Onion admits they are satire
 
2012-10-10 09:00:17 AM

Babwa Wawa: AverageAmericanGuy: LMAO. You know me too well.

If you weren't already favorited for being funny and reasonable, I might go for your trolling attempts. May I suggest an alt?


And be accused of being a sock puppet? I get enough of that already.
 
2012-10-10 09:01:01 AM
Simple solution:

Let them get away with it once at school, then quietly follow them home then watch them. Find a weakness, something they like, a favorite toy or pet...

Start there... show them they aren't invulnerable, but be careful and don't get caught

Then if it happens again, you follow them again, clock them in the base of the skull when they aren't aware... Drag them to somewhere secluded... Tie 'em down... When they wake up, allude, without admitting, about their missing favorite thing... You warn them one last time about being a bully, that you know where they live, you know how to get to their weakness, and how to get to them, and finally, you tell them, if they f- with you again, you'll cut their d- off, then give them a little cut, very close to it, maybe on the thigh, or pubis...

Instilling fear and terror in those that use fear and terror...

Like batman...

yep... batman
 
2012-10-10 09:04:54 AM

Uncle Tractor: Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally, I think it's good. Kids need to be bullied when they are young.

How else are they going to be good Citizens? Being bullied prepares you for life. You can't stand up for yourself against a cop or the TSA.....you'll end up in jail. No, you bend over and take it like you did in 3rd grade when that big kid beat you for looking at him funny.

I was going to say something along the lines of "stupid or troll," but maybe you're just making a snarky comment on life in the US ...?


I was thinking more 'life in general'; at least in our modern societies. I really do think there are many, many, many parallels between Governments and Bullies - I suppose the US government is worse than most for the simple fact that it's darn-near impossible to get away from it. I live outside of the US - but I still need to fill out a stack of papers each and every year in the hopes that it appeases Uncle Sam so he doesn't (financially) beat the hell out of me.

I have to report how much I have in each and every over-seas bank account. I have to report who i work for and how much I make. I already pay taxes to the government here, but arguably, I use some resources and all that jazz - but even if I haven't set foot on US soil in the last decade - I'd better cross my T's and dot my I's.

I also firmly believe that, often times, the smartest thing you can do is just shut up and deal with it. For example, on the life of my Mother, I *swear* I was given an unjust speeding ticket by a cop in Nebraska while driving from IL to NV. I could have argued with the cop about the injustice (fight back against the bully), or I could have ratted out the cop to the judge (run to the teacher), or I could shut up, take it, pay the fine, and move on (get bullied). I honestly believe the optimal course of action for me in that situation was to bend over and take it. I paid the fee. I could have driven back to NE to appear for my court date or whatever, but just like the teacher in class, the court doesn't give a crap - they just want me to pay and the teacher just wants the brats to shut up.

Life is full of injustice, learning to deal with it seems healthy to me. I'm not saying we should necessarily encourage bullying; but I'm also not truthfully convinced it doesn't serve a purpose.
 
2012-10-10 09:05:50 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Babwa Wawa: AverageAmericanGuy: LMAO. You know me too well.

If you weren't already favorited for being funny and reasonable, I might go for your trolling attempts. May I suggest an alt?

And be accused of being a sock puppet? I get enough of that already.


Screw em if they can't take a joke.
 
2012-10-10 09:14:15 AM

CeroX: Let them get away with it once at school, then quietly follow them home then watch them. Find a weakness, something they like, a favorite toy or pet...


Leave the animals out of it, they didn't do anything.
 
2012-10-10 09:15:35 AM

lajimi: CeroX: Let them get away with it once at school, then quietly follow them home then watch them. Find a weakness, something they like, a favorite toy or pet...

Leave the animals out of it, they didn't do anything.


there's always casualties in this sort of thing... no they didn't, but you can't let a weakness go unexploited just because it's cute and fluffy...
 
2012-10-10 09:22:01 AM
As a graduate of Brunswick High in MD, I'm getting a serious hillbilly kick out of this story.
 
2012-10-10 09:23:05 AM

doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.


Happened to me. The victim is the punished... always.
 
2012-10-10 09:26:33 AM
Some bullied kids become professional MMA fighters. Like Junior Dos Santos (current UFC heavyweight champion), Georges St. Pierre (current UFC welterweight champion) and Andrei Arlovski (former UFC heavyweight champion, was on an episode of Bully Beatdown where he beat the living snot out of some fat guy).
 
2012-10-10 09:29:12 AM

AbbeySomeone: coco ebert: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

Seriously, this. Kids chasing other kids to beat them? That was not how bullying worked in my day, and I was bullied. It wasn't nice but it wasn't this ... physical.

Girls bully others but usually don't resort to physical violence. Cruelty, slandering gossip, etc are the preferred tools.
Those boys showing such disregard for witnesses and cameras is indicative of a serious problem.


Actually, interestingly enough, I was never bullied by girls (and I'm a girl). It was always boys. It was a different country, though, so different dynamics? I'm not sure.
 
2012-10-10 09:42:44 AM
falunhr.org

For use on assholes.
 
2012-10-10 09:45:02 AM

Smiledriver: Let your kids know if they're being beaten and humilitated: fight back.


THIS. You have to go straight in, first time and not let them think that you're an easy target. On my first day at secondary school the school bully decided that I was a target. It was an inner city school and I'd come from a private prep school and wasn't big for my age. While queueing for our last lesson on my first day he pushed in in front of me, turned around and told me he'd see me after school if I had a problem with it. I was scared shiatless of him, he was bigger than me, had a crazy haircut, earrings and rings, all the preserve of adults as far as my naive little self was concerned. I considered running away but that was only short-term so I decided to go along and see what happened. What happened was he was completely stunned that I turned up rather than ran away. He was obviously not up for a fight and just started pushing me around. After a few pushes I gave him two good punches and that was it, all over.

I don't want my boy to turn in to a twat who goes around clobbering other kids, but I will tell him that if he's being bullied he needs to fight back immediately and that I'll support him in doing that. Fark the bullies.
 
2012-10-10 09:55:44 AM
Ah, bullies. Thanks to them I discovered violence IS sometimes the answer

/bullied from the day I entered Kindergarten until I beat up half my 6th grade classmates... at once

//only needed to beat the crap out of a couple more people after that before my rep proceeded me. Still ostracized, but at least I was left alone

///Everyone has a snapping point. Turns out my snapping point is 'actual physical violence directed at me' and/or 'harming something smaller/weaker than you in front of me'

////the repercussions were 100% worth it
 
2012-10-10 10:01:50 AM

The Envoy: Smiledriver:
I don't want my boy to turn in to a twat who goes around clobbering other kids, but I will tell him that if he's being bullied he needs to fight back immediately and that I'll support him in doing that. Fark the bullies.


Yep. I was bullied as a kid and my father called a conference with my teacher and she told him they have a 'Walk away' policy and don't do anything to antagonize the bully

My father said 'Well, the next time that happens, he has my permission to deck the little shiat'
 
2012-10-10 10:03:21 AM

nymersic: Nobody has commented yet that the kid's name is Preston Deener? Poor kid was destined for bullying from day one.


This.

Nice job, Preston's parents.
 
2012-10-10 10:10:51 AM
Most people are the bully and bullied.
 
2012-10-10 10:12:48 AM
I was verbally bullied during a short stint in junior high. One day I saw the assholes coming and smacked one of the motherfarkers across the face/nose with an empty folder I had in my hand, mid-insult. It was enough to hurt and/or startle him but not enough to cause any damage. Like getting biatch-slapped - it's kind of hard to come back from that without swinging. That shiat stopped soon after as the shiat-talk became less and from a distance.
 
2012-10-10 10:18:54 AM
Of course the bullies had no problem bullying him on camera. We live in a time when nothing is too shameful to be kept off of TV. Look at the Tea Party, for god's sake. Loud, boorish ignoramuses with unhinged anger are totally fine letting it all hang out with cameras rolling. They're proud of it. They think it's a badge of honor because they are stupid and have also been told that being stupid is somehow honorable.
 
2012-10-10 10:30:23 AM

coco ebert: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

Seriously, this. Kids chasing other kids to beat them? That was not how bullying worked in my day, and I was bullied. It wasn't nice but it wasn't this ... physical.


That's what happened to me in the 70s.

Mitrovarr: Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example. In all honesty, if they assaulted someone in front of an adult with a video camera, they need a serious wake-up call right now anyway - that might do the job where other things have failed.


I do agree they need a trip to juvie but I doubt it's going to get through to them. They've gotten away with it for so long that it's just going to teach them to be more careful.

On the other hand the openness with which they are acting clearly shows the school doesn't try to stop it. I predict a lawsuit.

Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."


You're part of the problem, not part of the solution. Hitting back is self defense and thus legal. The problem is the administrators don't want to be held accountable for figuring out who started it. (Understandably, the bullies are very good at blaming the other guy for starting it.)

farkingismybusiness: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.

Just look at Ender Wiggin.


Ender's Game/Speaker for the Dead/Xenocide and a bunch of others that I haven't read.

namegoeshere: Mock26: Dear Bullies,

Columbine.


Regards,
Bullied Kids.

Please report to yesterday's "Columbine shooters were the bullies, not the bullied" thread. Read the linked book. Those two used to do shiat like follow mentally disabled students around bouncing basketballs off the back of their heads until they cried.


The states aren't exclusive. Sometimes the victims of bullying turn to bullying others.
 
2012-10-10 10:36:45 AM
The incident that stands out the most was Freshman year when some older burn-out girls kept picking on me. One day they pushed me. I got so angry that I went to punch the girl in the face. My finger got caught in her mouth so it didn't really hurt her - just awkward as heck. But it as enough to get those girls to leave me alone. By 10th/11th grade I'd made friends with older kids so bullying was all comments/non-physical bullying from the popular kids. Then I joined the military in 11th grade & went to basic training over the summer. Nobody messed with me my Senior year! Though some of the popular girls were still slightly jerky...but seeing as how after high school several of the popular guys wanted to date me...maybe those girls were jealous?

My anti-bullying strategies:
- Sometimes you gotta fight back.
- Make older/bigger friends
- Build confidence (Martial Arts, Military, etc)
- Success is the best revenge
 
2012-10-10 10:38:08 AM
Attack: A local news crew caught Preston Deener (wearing white) being punches...

Well, there you go. If the little pussy would stop being punches the kids might not pick on him.
 
2012-10-10 10:46:50 AM
The key to defeating a bully is simple: moan in orgasmic ecstacy after the first punch and beg for more.

Also always make sure that they know they are "your bully".
Ask them with puppy-dog eyes when can they come around and touch-hate you.

For some reason they get weirded out by this.
 
2012-10-10 10:49:44 AM

trappedspirit: Attack: A local news crew caught Preston Deener (wearing white) being punches...

Well, there you go. If the little pussy would stop being punches the kids might not pick on him.


Bullies can't resist the mix of ice cream, ginger ale and orange juice, or a good wassail bowl.
 
2012-10-10 10:56:20 AM

KawaiiNot: The incident that stands out the most was Freshman year when some older burn-out girls kept picking on me. One day they pushed me. I got so angry that I went to punch the girl in the face. My finger got caught in her mouth so it didn't really hurt her - just awkward as heck.



legacy-cdn.smosh.com
Go on...
 
2012-10-10 10:57:09 AM

KawaiiNot: - Success is the best revenge



Oh but isn't it, though. I was viciously picked on by one of the football players, who was as dumb as an ox.

The coach actually encouraged him to pick on people, but would be the first to scream if anybody fought back

Flash forward 20+ years later, and I have a successful job and last I heard, he couldn't even hold a job as a janitor and moved back in with his dad
 
2012-10-10 10:59:19 AM

Securitywyrm: The "Two students fighting are punished equally" bullshiat was present when I was in high school. It set up an easy system for bullies to abuse, as anyone who was concerned about keeping a clean record wouldn't report it. Seriously, I got detention for reporting that someone punched me. The other student was also given detention. We were then released at the same time from detention to an empty school with no witnesses, he kicked my ass. I didn't report it, because then I'd have been suspended.

fark this system.


Been there, done that.

Next time it happened though, I learned a valuable lesson that has stayed with me throughout my life. When you have to fight, fight dirty, fight to kill, don't think of anything else until the fight is over.

Had one kid in high school. He was trouble in grade school, but his parents decided that it'd be brilliant to have him train in boxing. He was an absolute terror to anyone he could muscle around. As expected, he quickly had a small following of like minded douches. Didn't phase me since I was an upperclassman. One day he decided that I'd be a fun target and just walked up and sucker punched me in the cafeteria. I couldn't do a damn thing without getting caught. Spotted him between classes, walked up behind him and rammed his head into the door jam as we were walking by a classroom. No teacher in the room, lots of chaos as students were trying to get to their classes. Repeated smacking his noggin against the door jam until I though the message had been sent, and then I just walked off.

About a week later, he tried it again after school while I was sitting in the parking lot waiting for my ride home. Again, sucker punch from behind. This time, nobody was around but two of his friends. Grabbed him and slammed. His head into the concrete block I was sitting on. Got about four good smacks on him before his friends got involved. First one got grabbed in the groin, then smacked his head against the concrete block too. Did it twice before the third one got close. At this point the third guy saw the blood and lost his nerve. Fine. He watched as I smacked his buddy into the concrete one or two more times for good measure.

Then I simply walked away to the front of the school. I fully expected to get in major trouble for this. I seriously just lost it. Guess what? Nothing happened to me... the douches didn't want to admit what happened, and they "got jumped". I got lucky.

Goes against everything I was taught by my parents, but here's the deal. The bullies don't follow the rules. They know them, but only to use them against you. The "system" is not there to help you, it's there to keep you in line. The teachers (usually) are not your friends, they're there to do their job and far too many want to do the bare minimum or worse, they're hamstrung by the same system you're struggling against.

Once I learned that lesson, I had fewer problems. Sure, I got into a few fights in grade school and high school, but few of them ever got reported (definitely not by me), and none of them were ever started by me.

It's rather interesting when bullies have a target who doesn't mind fighting back. More so when their intended target is willing to fight dirtier than they will.

/very not CSB and I am still shamed of my actions that day
//would not hesitate to do it again if put in the situation
 
2012-10-10 11:01:26 AM

HST's Dead Carcass: I always hit back, every single time. I made sure anyone attempting to bully me knew it meant pain would come their way. If it becomes painful enough, they stopped. Many times they'd tell me me they'd get me next time, so next time they saw me, I'd initiate the physical contact and let them know I saw them first.

Yes I did get into a lot of fights as a kid, and yes I knew how to fight, but I was getting beat at home, I damn sure wasn't gonna take it from some punk kid when I could take a punch from a full grown man. By the time I hit high school, I was pretty unhinged when people tried to bully me. A few tried it early on, I knocked one out with one punch in front of everyone in the smoking area. Another told me to meet him after school to fight and I told him "what's wrong with right farking now?" and began wailing on him, he ran off in front of everyone. He tried to catch me after school and before he could even start his shiat talking, I began wailing on him, once again, he ran. Yes, I did get my ass kicked a few times, but I went right back after those guys to let them know I am not a target, and though I may get my ass kicked today, one of these tiems I am going to get a lucky shot in and they are gonna come out the worse for wear.

Truth is: Start wailing on them before they can get the words out of their mouths and they don't get the psychological edge on you, they just get punched in the face.


*whaling
 
2012-10-10 11:23:35 AM
I got bullied through most of my school years, though no one would ever try to touch me because I was bigger and stronger than all of the girls (layer of fat on top of thick muscles, bless my family genetics and love of the outdoors for making me a beast. Used to love the horrified looks I'd get in gym class when we started weight training and I was moving more weight than a lot of the boys.) In high school I earned a reputation as the gentle freak, all bark when provoked but no bite despite the spiked collar and jack boots and mohawk... so when the one girl in the bathroom did made a nasty comment about my boyfriend and I put down my cigarette and knocked her in her ugly face, absolutely no one would believe I did it. And she was the one who got into trouble for 'trying to get (me) in trouble'. Sweet, sweet karma.

Then in senior year I suddenly became popular. Made the yearbook for "Most Original" and a few people even signed my yearbook with "Sorry I gave you so much shiat over the years, you're pretty cool." Kinda restored my faith in teens.

But anyone ever bullies my kid and my little twerp better punch them in their sissy mouths.
 
2012-10-10 11:25:46 AM

grinnel: What is the more credible news source, Daily Mail or The Onion?


The Onion. Problem is, they usually have to wait about 3 years to be vindicated.
 
2012-10-10 11:29:12 AM
Ok, after reading this thread... I'm now starting to think that many people who blast others on the internet do so because they were bullied in school where if they said something like they do on the internet they would get their ass kicked, but thanks to internet anonymity they can safely berate and bully others to fill that hole in their sole that they've carried for years...
 
2012-10-10 11:36:47 AM
My daughter was bullied by another girl in grade school. Every time I tried to tell the school, they never saw it actually happen. But I did see bruises on my daughter where this other girl kicked her. So, I told my daughter she had the right to defend herself. When the principal called me into the office, after my daughter had struck back, I calmly told him, that if the school did not defend her, she had to defend herself. They were small little kids so there was no danger, but still, I wonder where that little psycho biatch is today. She got kicked out or moved away.
 
2012-10-10 11:39:15 AM

farkingismybusiness: Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."

I usually fought my fights outside of school. It was hilarious going to the administrators office the next day with a bruised swollen hand and a black eye and denying absolutely everything.

"Now we know you were in a fight. We have several sources."
"I have no idea what you're talking about."
"We've heard there is a video tape of the fight."
"I have no idea what you're talking about."
"Well I guess you're just like your brothers. Go back to class."

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Same here. Although I didn't start out as a fighter, and got bullied pretty badly (Got pantsed a few times, punched in the gut, chewing gum stuck in my books, Lunch money shakedowns, et cetera). When I told my dad about it he asked who the bullies were. When I told him it was a couple of kids in our neighborhood he wanted to know if they bullied me outside of school. I said yes, of course they did. His response was to spend the next weeks teaching me the basics of JKD when I got home from school. He told me that the only way to break the bulling was to stand up for myself and that if the junior hooligans tried to attack me again I should defend myself, but to be careful not to hurt them too badly. And he said if it ever got back to him that I was starting fights then I would be in MAJOR trouble (yes, he did use a belt on occasion when I really deserved it).

Needless to say I was eventually cornered by the bullies after school, and I wound up beating the leader and his minions pretty badly. I took a couple of good hits myself, so my dad knew what had happened when I got home. His response was "Did you defend yourself? will they be picking on you again?" I told him yes, I had defended myself and had beaten them badly enough that they probably wouldn't risk another incident.

Turned out I was right. The bullies not only left me alone, they stopped bullying the other kids (at least when I was around). I never had trouble at school again.

Just remember the Rudyard Kipling poem "Dane-Geld". The same principles apply to bullies:

Dane-Geld

It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
To call upon a neighbour and to say: --
"We invaded you last night--we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away."

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say: --
"Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away."

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that pays it is lost!"

/CSB done.
 
2012-10-10 11:46:32 AM
Just timely reporting is all.

/right on top of that story
 
2012-10-10 11:49:19 AM
They really should ban bullying.
 
2012-10-10 11:51:09 AM
CSB time.

My son was harassed by a kid in middle school that told him (every day) at lunch that he was going to beat him up after school. I tried to tell my son that since the kid never followed through with the threat that he should just ignore the kid, or laugh it off. Didn't work, neither did telling a teacher about the incident, and my son started dreading going to school and started hiding during lunch so the kid couldn't find him. I stepped in. I had a meeting with the principal, and told her she had three days (it was a Wednesday) to stop the situation (not talk with the kid, or his parents, but fully stop the situation). If, come Monday, the kid in question so much as approached my son, I had given my son permission to beat the living shiat out of the kid (my words exactly), and keep beating him until physically restrained by somebody. The principle was shocked beyond words, and haltingly told me that my son wold be suspended if he did that. I informed her that I would take vacation from work for that same amount of time and go to Disneyland as a reward for my son's bravery in stopping a situation that the school administration apparently had no ability to stop on their own.

My son never saw the kid again.
 
2012-10-10 11:57:35 AM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: CSB time.

My son was harassed by a kid in middle school that told him (every day) at lunch that he was going to beat him up after school. I tried to tell my son that since the kid never followed through with the threat that he should just ignore the kid, or laugh it off. Didn't work, neither did telling a teacher about the incident, and my son started dreading going to school and started hiding during lunch so the kid couldn't find him. I stepped in. I had a meeting with the principal, and told her she had three days (it was a Wednesday) to stop the situation (not talk with the kid, or his parents, but fully stop the situation). If, come Monday, the kid in question so much as approached my son, I had given my son permission to beat the living shiat out of the kid (my words exactly), and keep beating him until physically restrained by somebody. The principle was shocked beyond words, and haltingly told me that my son wold be suspended if he did that. I informed her that I would take vacation from work for that same amount of time and go to Disneyland as a reward for my son's bravery in stopping a situation that the school administration apparently had no ability to stop on their own.

My son never saw the kid again.


SSB (Similar story bro)
 
2012-10-10 12:29:22 PM

Aulus: Interesting this should come out now.

Last week, my 13 year old granddaughter was being verbally harassed at her middle school by some boys who have been pulling this shiat since 6th grade. She got pissed off and punched one of them out. for that, she got sent home for the rest of the day. When her step-father went down to the school to pick her up and inquire about the incident, he asked what happened to the boys. They refused to tell him any more than that they "had consequences."

WTF?

Today, I learned the boy was joking about it in front of my granddaughter and she replied, "Yeah, it's pretty funny you got punched out by a girl."

I've got a feeling things are going to get interesting, especially since her mother, my daughter, is going down there for parent/teacher conferences tomorrow with fire in her eye. She's 6'1" and doesn't suffer fools.


Your grand daughter is awesome for standing her ground! No snark intended, I'm a parent of three children. Two girls and a boy.
 
2012-10-10 12:59:01 PM

ADHD Librarian: AlwaysRightBoy: AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

But they're just kids being kids!!!!

/likes your terms better

Some adults still behave this way. It is a personality defect.

I have a 42-year-old guy at work who's one of the biggest bullys I know.

/I keep telling him he needs therapy

purely psychosomatic

/Lie down on the couch!
//What does that mean?


You're a nut, you're crazy in the coconut!
 
2012-10-10 01:02:43 PM

SnarfVader: This is a problem with the snowflake generation. Kids don't even care if there's a camera around. I think they prefer it. Perhaps a public swift kick to the nuts are what a lot of these kid terrors need, but I'm sure they would just love the attention that would create.

/In before the rain.


It's less 'snowflake generation' and more 'adults who can't figure out that little Timmy on the football squad is not their reincarnated soul who will go on to win all the fame and fortune they couldn't'.

/I am so glad for my high school right about now
//Everyone's life sucked, and the teachers pay attention, so bullying was a minimum
///And no goddamn sports.
 
2012-10-10 01:10:25 PM
I was bullied throughout grade school and into middle school. I was also a socially inept, smart, but goofy and sarcastic sombiatch, so upon reflection I asked for it quite often as well. I eventually had a major mental breakdown after constant bullying in PE (itself simply a more organized bullying at our middle school.) Sent a classmate at the wrong place with the wrong straw at the wrong time to the hospital with a cracked skull.

From then on, I was left alone... along with a months' suspension and loss of after-school activity participation. Lucky I didn't get expelled, but in the words of the principal "they'd been expecting this for some time." We should have sued, but nobody did that back then.

In hindsight it was worth it, but I never got to date in high school. The girls talk, you know?
 
2012-10-10 01:58:44 PM

Wayne 985: doglover: Suspended for three days for fighting back?

That's the saddest thing I ever heard.

Yeah, this crap happens a lot. Happened to a friend of mine back in junior high more than a decade ago and it's still happening.

Punched in the face and you hit back? That's a suspension, if you're lucky. Administrators "can't pick sides."


They started doing that shiat around here in the early 90s when I was in high school. It came under fire when one kid walked up to another kid and punched him out. Both got suspended and the one kid never even threw a punch or knew what hit him.
 
2012-10-10 02:04:48 PM

KrispyKritter: the Daily Fail is trolling you good folks. the kid is wearing his hair like a five year old dressed in a sailor suit by his doting momma. a nun could take one glance and would want to kick the crap out of this twink.


After looking at your profile it seems like your a bullied adult that's lashing out at an easy target. Relevant to your situation.
 
2012-10-10 02:09:36 PM

namegoeshere: Mock26: Dear Bullies,

Columbine.


Regards,
Bullied Kids.

Please report to yesterday's "Columbine shooters were the bullies, not the bullied" thread. Read the linked book. Those two used to do shiat like follow mentally disabled students around bouncing basketballs off the back of their heads until they cried.


And why do you think they bullied other kids? Because they themselves were bullied.
 
2012-10-10 02:10:02 PM
I knew a guy who enjoyed getting beat, well, some of it was his fault. He was a poor kid, and at the time he wore these shirts with the giant collars that he got at thrift stores. So we'd make fun of him for it, but nothing too bad. Then he would constantly get in your face and act like an idiot, calling you names or whatever, like he would try to bully you. My preferred method of attack was a punch in the leg, usually one time would send him to his knees. After a while, he started to enjoy the pain and would keep doing it, as if it was an addiction, or just a way to make him feel accepted. Either way, we all had fun. If we fought in school, we'd go to the office and would have to shake hands then be on our way. If it was really bad, we'd get a paddling.
 
2012-10-10 02:13:31 PM
Dang, I wish I'd thought of fighting back in Jr High. I was punched constantly during band when the director turned his back by the players next to me. Got a huge patch of bruises on both sides.

What actually happened: someone finally noticed the bruises on my arm and told someone. I got summoned to the principal and told to explain my injuries. I explained the situation, which I had before but NOBODY farkING LISTENED, and the bullies got in trouble since I had proof. Didn't get punched after that -- well, not by them any way, and no longer repeatedly for an hour a day.

What should have happened: right as the bruises reached "critical mass", I should have smashed their faces with their own instruments, then dared the principal to do anything to me. With the amount of injury, I probably could have sued the school for a nice hefty college nest egg if they tried. As well as taking out the teeth of the assholes who did that.

Just would have been more satisfying on many levels for option 2.
 
2012-10-10 02:43:53 PM
i was bullied as a child by a guy on the bus, every day, slap to the back of my head. finally one day i got fed up, i go to my parents, youl never guess what they told me to do.

PUNCH THE LITTLE SNOT RIGHT IN THE FACE.

problem solved, forever, never had a god damn problem with a bully again, all the way through high school. why? cause i was a bigger bully? NO

because the solution to the problem has been the same for the last 100 000 years that humans have been here... if someone hits you, you dont puss out and run away. YOU farkING HIT THEM BACK ITS CALLED SELF DEFENSE AND ANYONE WHO TRYS TO TELL YOU DIFFERENT IS MENTALLY DEFUNCT.

farking defend yourselfs.
 
2012-10-10 02:54:32 PM

Twice Banned: [falunhr.org image 780x586]

For use on assholes.


Holy Shiat! I knew most folks on Fark had a kinky/twisted side to them, but you've taken ass-play to a whole new dimension of messed the fark up!
 
2012-10-10 03:40:24 PM
Was bullied in Jr High. Particularly in my math class where the teacher ignored it. I was surrounded by these girls who bullied me. One day they wrote on my back--I had a light jacket on over a sweater and didn't feel it--used a permanent marker to write a crude remark there. Teacher didn't care.
Then one day they waited after school and circled me and threatened to beat me up.
I really don't know what brought an end to it all but I made a bunch of friends in H.S. and things got better.
I wasn't really shocked to hear that the leader of the bully girls, after high school, drove drunk and got one of the other girls killed in a car accident and the little b**ch didn't care and only complained about her car and loss of license. (oh, and she didn't get into any real trouble for it--just not able to drive for awhile). She really was an awful human being.
 
2012-10-10 05:09:43 PM
If they had been black this would have been "gang activity".
 
2012-10-10 06:26:56 PM

untaken_name: No one pointed out to you that he obviously liked you? That's textbook.


I was a chubby, buck-toothed, four-eyed nerd. Of course the thought never occurred to me. I didn't get "cute" until high school.

He wasn't my only tormentor, just the one who happened to be around when I finally had enough.
 
2012-10-10 06:28:42 PM
The best thing to do, when being bullied, it to say: "Stop. Don't do that. You'll give me an erection."
 
2012-10-10 07:46:01 PM

rlandrum: The best thing to do, when being bullied, it to say: "Stop. Don't do that. You'll give me an erection."


That could be added incentive for some bullies
 
2012-10-10 07:52:40 PM
The best thing to do, when being bullied, it to say: "Stop. Don't do that. You'll give me an erection."

memearchive.net
 
2012-10-10 08:27:16 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Bullying is not something you can just "get over". It becomes part of who you are and your outlook towards others is shaped by your bad experiences.

I wasn't bullied. Rather, I was a bully, in the broadest sense of the term. I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet. I've stolen their books and locked their lockers with padlocks. It's something that I've grown out of, but I still carry around a little bit of that in me.

Telling someone to get over it is pretty callous. It negates their experiences and feelings. Rather, we should find ways to accept it as something that happened in the past and move on, accepting that there are scars that may never fully heal over.


That just means you're farked up in the head. It's sad that whatever home environment you grew up in made you think it was okay to treat other people like trash, but you don't get to tell other people how to deal with it. Let me guess: You were molested as a kid, Dad was an alcoholic that beat your mother, you never got any attention, blah blah blah? You're just a horrible person that lacks the mental ability to think: "This.. this isn't right. I see the harm it does, and I cannot let the bad seed spread". None of that is any excuse. You just need professional help.
 
2012-10-10 08:50:53 PM
AverageAmericanGuy: My family? Oh, that's easy. "Stupid, worthless, no good, goddamned, free loading son-of-a-biatch! Retarded, big mouth, know-it-all asshole jerk!" "You forgot ugly, lazy, and disrespectful!" "Shut up, biatch! Go fix me a turkey pot pie!" "What about you, Dad?" "fark you!" "No, Dad, what about you?" "fark you!" "No, Dad, what about you?!" "fark you!"
grinnel: Is that for real?
AverageAmericanGuy: You wanna come over some time?
ParagonComplex: That's bullshiat. It's all part of your image, I don't believe a word of it.
AverageAmericanGuy: You don't believe me?
ParagonComplex: No.
AverageAmericanGuy: No?
ParagonComplex: Did I stutter?
AverageAmericanGuy: Do you believe this? Huh? It's about the size of a cigar...Do I stutter? You see this is what you get in my house when you spill paint in the garage. See I don't think that I need to sit here with you farkin' dildos anymore!
 
2012-10-10 10:38:31 PM

ParagonComplex: AverageAmericanGuy: Bullying is not something you can just "get over". It becomes part of who you are and your outlook towards others is shaped by your bad experiences.

I wasn't bullied. Rather, I was a bully, in the broadest sense of the term. I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet. I've stolen their books and locked their lockers with padlocks. It's something that I've grown out of, but I still carry around a little bit of that in me.

Telling someone to get over it is pretty callous. It negates their experiences and feelings. Rather, we should find ways to accept it as something that happened in the past and move on, accepting that there are scars that may never fully heal over.

That just means you're farked up in the head. It's sad that whatever home environment you grew up in made you think it was okay to treat other people like trash, but you don't get to tell other people how to deal with it. Let me guess: You were molested as a kid, Dad was an alcoholic that beat your mother, you never got any attention, blah blah blah? You're just a horrible person that lacks the mental ability to think: "This.. this isn't right. I see the harm it does, and I cannot let the bad seed spread". None of that is any excuse. You just need professional help.


he's just a troll.
 
2012-10-10 11:01:45 PM

Thunderpipes: No such thing as bullying, just weak kids and strong kids. Weak ones need to learn their place early. The world needs ditch diggers too.


Yep, that is true. Really without all those 'strong' bullies who would we have to dig our ditches (once they realise their dreams of the NFL will never happen and they haven't made any other plans)

bacongood: Most people are the bully and bullied.


So much this!
What is that? CSB time? Oh ok, but only because all the cool kids are doing it.

When I was a little kid I was bloody little. Poor pasty white Pom in Australia, no interest in sport, ADHD (only no one gave it the label back then), a love of reading ALL THE TIME and an absolute confusion as to why anyone would choose not to be smart.

Anyhew...
At about 11 years of age I started having run ins with a kid who had been held back a year. He saw me as a nice target to demonstrate his superiority and as I lived just round the corner and caught the same bus from the same bus stop it made things unpleasant.
I was not looking forward to having to put up with him on the school camp (an actual hike with packs through the wilderness for several days, we had cool teachers). So, I 'turned the tables' by which I mean I became the bully (I didn't recognise it at the time, but that is what happened).
So I provoked a schoolyard altercation which I knew was going to result in me getting a beating, but I made sure I had timed it for a shift change of the teacher on yard duty. I provoked him by being a smart arse, belittling him, telling him how weak he was and how even I could hand him a real beating because even though he was bigger than the rest of us he was a bed-wetting pansy.

Funnily enough, me saying this in front of everyone DID provoke him. I stood so I could see the staffroom door and waited for it to open before I stepped close enough to him for him to take a swing. His first hit was a black eye for me but I didn't raise my hands, I bit back the tears and told him that was soft and if he couldn't hit me enough to hurt then there was no point me starting to hit him and that he could have one more free shot before I broke his nose. He started going windmill insane on me, punches landing everywhere as I laughed and told him he was weak, all the time watching the teacher who had just realised what was happening and was running towards us.
As soon as she was close enough I changed tone. "What is wrong? Why are you upset? There is no need or us to fight, whatever it is I am sure we can work it out." and so on, he was too far gone to realise anything was wrong and all the teacher heard was me being reasonable and trying to de-escalate the situation. Add to that the fact I had not raised my hands to retaliate and I was all set to come out smelling of roses. Which is what happened, I stuck to my story of having said something rude to him (got to be believable), but that I had then apologised and tried to make amends with him. He got a 2 week suspension (which included the camp) and I learned a couple of things. First that I can take a beating, prior to this I had always been scared of the physical stuff and secondly I learned that I could game the system.

Years later I also learned that this kid had been kept back because he was so badly bullied by the kids in his own year. I also learned that he was a chronic bed-wetter as a result of the bullying (no wonder my taunts worked). So he bullied be because he was a victim himself. These days I am torn, I still love telling the story (and I still feel the visceral joy of my young self when I realised I had won) but I do feel bad for him and all he had gone through, I am sure what I did was not helpful for his development and I wonder how his parents coped finding out their poor bullied little boy was now the bully.

I love the simplicity people present here. The idea that there is 'the bully' and 'the victim'. So many fark bully threads are dressed up that way. So many parents who are sure their snowflake is fighting back in self defence and crying because they were suspended too. Sometimes, sure. But so far as I can see that is a rare case, usually both sides have their share of faults and the classic Hollywood drama idea of a bully who chooses a random person for no reason and who keeps it going for no reason, I don't really see it (but then perhaps I have a more honest vision of my own childhood than many people, I have certainly looked back at it critically rather than just sitting back and saying, do you remember when).
 
2012-10-10 11:06:42 PM
oh, and as an odd aside I do wonder if the ability to overcome a 'reasonable' (what ever that is) level of bullying actually helps you to deal with the psychopaths of the workforce and in your apartment complex or wherever else you meet them as an adult.
I certainly credit my ability to find ways to overcome, ignore or deal with schoolyard teasing with my ability to cope with the arsehole bosses I have occasionally had.
 
2012-10-11 12:35:37 AM
I love the simplicity people present here. The idea that there is 'the bully' and 'the victim'. So many fark bully threads are dressed up that way. So many parents who are sure their snowflake is fighting back in self defence and crying because they were suspended too. Sometimes, sure. But so far as I can see that is a rare case, usually both sides have their share of faults and the classic Hollywood drama idea of a bully who chooses a random person for no reason and who keeps it going for no reason, I don't really see it (but then perhaps I have a more honest vision of my own childhood than many people, I have certainly looked back at it critically rather than just sitting back and saying, do you remember when).

oh, and as an odd aside I do wonder if the ability to overcome a 'reasonable' (what ever that is) level of bullying actually helps you to deal with the psychopaths of the workforce and in your apartment complex or wherever else you meet them as an adult.
I certainly credit my ability to find ways to overcome, ignore or deal with schoolyard teasing with my ability to cope with the arsehole bosses I have occasionally had.


I think these hit the nail on the head. Conceptualizing "bullying" as something that is going to just go away is as naive as the "war on drugs". People are going to have crappy lives that lead them to be crappy to other people. Learning how to deal with that (from both sides) is one of the most important things you can do as a kid, because life is going to be a lot harder as an adult if you don't. Raising awareness (which seems to be the in-thing in current US society) is a feel-good idea that everyone can do but accomplishes very little.
 
2012-10-11 06:35:49 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Life is full of injustice, learning to deal with it seems healthy to me. I'm not saying we should necessarily encourage bullying; but I'm also not truthfully convinced it doesn't serve a purpose.


I kinda see your point. The trouble is that by "dealing with it," you let it continue. If people always stood up to that kind of shiat, the shiat would end.

The first people to stand up would be beaten down, of course.
 
2012-10-11 09:57:56 AM

padraig: doglover: You gotta realize some people are literally asking for it. They do everything possible to piss everyone off all the time, and they play the martyr card when everyone's pissed at them.

That's sadly true. My 11-yo stepson is regularly bullied, but frankly, it's his own damn fault. He's got absolutely no filter between his brain and his mouth, he has absolutely no social intelligence, and think that if he just says whatever he thinks, people will simply see the light of day, and realise he's right, and if he's right, they can't be mad at him. Mix that with a very egocentric point of view, a very short temper, and an emotional immaturity that makes him sometimes react like a 5-yo, and people very quickly become very pissed at him, and he lose all chances to make friends. You see that every time he gets in a new environnement (new class, club, camp, etc...), where his relations to the whole group deteriorates in a matter of days.
So, yeah, I can understand when those kind of people gets bullied.
But some are bullied only because they are different (gay, geeky, ugly...)


www.freewords.com.br
 
2012-10-11 01:58:18 PM

Uncle Tractor: Fark_Guy_Rob: Life is full of injustice, learning to deal with it seems healthy to me. I'm not saying we should necessarily encourage bullying; but I'm also not truthfully convinced it doesn't serve a purpose.

I kinda see your point. The trouble is that by "dealing with it," you let it continue. If people always stood up to that kind of shiat, the shiat would end.

The first people to stand up would be beaten down, of course.


I don't know, I put up with a lot of shiat in my younger school days, but two incidents stand out in my mind. One was in I think 1st grade, another girl was being a prissy biatch and picking on me some (don't recall specifics), and I walked away and was angry when she followed and asked what my problem was. To which I answered 'YOU'. She apologized.

The other time, a boy who sat behind me in the orchestra (maybe sixth grade) kept poking me with his violin bow and harassing me over time. Finally I turned around and was just going to poke him back, only he turned his head right into the pointy part of my bow and basically got soft-stabbed in the temple, right next to his eye. Looked like it really hurt, and he got pissed... but stopped bothering me after that. So accidental excessive retaliation took care of that one...
 
2012-10-12 02:39:27 AM

lyanna96: padraig: doglover: You gotta realize some people are literally asking for it. They do everything possible to piss everyone off all the time, and they play the martyr card when everyone's pissed at them.

That's sadly true. My 11-yo stepson is regularly bullied, but frankly, it's his own damn fault. He's got absolutely no filter between his brain and his mouth, he has absolutely no social intelligence, and think that if he just says whatever he thinks, people will simply see the light of day, and realise he's right, and if he's right, they can't be mad at him. Mix that with a very egocentric point of view, a very short temper, and an emotional immaturity that makes him sometimes react like a 5-yo, and people very quickly become very pissed at him, and he lose all chances to make friends. You see that every time he gets in a new environnement (new class, club, camp, etc...), where his relations to the whole group deteriorates in a matter of days.
So, yeah, I can understand when those kind of people gets bullied.
But some are bullied only because they are different (gay, geeky, ugly...)

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You two owe me a new keyboard.
 
2012-10-12 01:17:21 PM

ladyfortuna: Uncle Tractor: Fark_Guy_Rob: Life is full of injustice, learning to deal with it seems healthy to me. I'm not saying we should necessarily encourage bullying; but I'm also not truthfully convinced it doesn't serve a purpose.

I kinda see your point. The trouble is that by "dealing with it," you let it continue. If people always stood up to that kind of shiat, the shiat would end.

The first people to stand up would be beaten down, of course.

I don't know, I put up with a lot of shiat in my younger school days, but two incidents stand out in my mind. One was in I think 1st grade, another girl was being a prissy biatch and picking on me some (don't recall specifics), and I walked away and was angry when she followed and asked what my problem was. To which I answered 'YOU'. She apologized.

The other time, a boy who sat behind me in the orchestra (maybe sixth grade) kept poking me with his violin bow and harassing me over time. Finally I turned around and was just going to poke him back, only he turned his head right into the pointy part of my bow and basically got soft-stabbed in the temple, right next to his eye. Looked like it really hurt, and he got pissed... but stopped bothering me after that. So accidental excessive retaliation took care of that one...


You got off lucky with such minor bullying. What about a kid who gets repeatedly punched in the stomach by someone? Or a kid who is constantly tripped? And what about kids who for whatever reason lack the self esteem or strength or whatever to stand up to their bullies?
 
2012-10-12 10:17:55 PM

sandi_fish: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: CSB time.

My son was harassed by a kid in middle school that told him (every day) at lunch that he was going to beat him up after school. I tried to tell my son that since the kid never followed through with the threat that he should just ignore the kid, or laugh it off. Didn't work, neither did telling a teacher about the incident, and my son started dreading going to school and started hiding during lunch so the kid couldn't find him. I stepped in. I had a meeting with the principal, and told her she had three days (it was a Wednesday) to stop the situation (not talk with the kid, or his parents, but fully stop the situation). If, come Monday, the kid in question so much as approached my son, I had given my son permission to beat the living shiat out of the kid (my words exactly), and keep beating him until physically restrained by somebody. The principle was shocked beyond words, and haltingly told me that my son wold be suspended if he did that. I informed her that I would take vacation from work for that same amount of time and go to Disneyland as a reward for my son's bravery in stopping a situation that the school administration apparently had no ability to stop on their own.

My son never saw the kid again.

SSB (Similar story bro)


I'm just waiting for some school administrator to have some "if you get suspended, you can't use it as a vacation" and tie it to community service or pseudo-probation to keep parents from undermining their authority.
 
2012-10-13 03:14:28 AM
Mock - I'm sure it happened some but to the best of my knowledge, bullies mostly got punished back when I went through middle/Jr. high/high school. We also had a weird system: the old high school from the 1950s or so was converted into ONLY 9th grade when the district out grew it. So Freshmen were separated from the other three grades for a whole year. I honestly think it helped a lot because you didn't have the seniors around to screw with the most vulnerable grade, and going on to sophomore year was probably a lot easier for everyone.

I got some verbal bullying too and there was one guy in that 9th grade building who would NOT leave me alone (verbal harassment, fairly malicious)... until I left him an anonymous pretty creepy poem in his locker. I don't remember much of a problem with him after that. Red fountain pen ink on edge-burned parchment, good times.

Other than that, I don't recall major incidents the rest of the time. It also helped a lot that the new principal when I got to the other building implemented his own policy - people caught fighting WOULD be getting police records out of it. The only fight I ever saw after that was during midterms when there were no teachers around.
 
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