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2012-10-10 04:45:04 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally, I think it's good. Kids need to be bullied when they are young.

How else are they going to be good Citizens? Being bullied prepares you for life. You can't stand up for yourself against a cop or the TSA.....you'll end up in jail. No, you bend over and take it like you did in 3rd grade when that big kid beat you for looking at him funny.

Bullying is unpredictable - just like life. There are no reasons or explanations....just like life. It prevents people from noticing the absolute absurdity of our tax systems and legal systems. It teaches people to accept things that would be hard to change and to get used to living with things you hate.


I think the real issue here is that parents are leaving the job of bullying to the other kids in school. Every good parent knows that bullying should begin at home.
 
2012-10-10 05:07:43 AM
I myself was so obnoxious the seniors used to beat me up once a week. So this guy is a total loser?
 
2012-10-10 05:35:33 AM
Nobody has commented yet that the kid's name is Preston Deener? Poor kid was destined for bullying from day one.
 
2012-10-10 05:45:09 AM

ADHD Librarian: AlwaysRightBoy: AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.

But they're just kids being kids!!!!

/likes your terms better

Some adults still behave this way. It is a personality defect.

I have a 42-year-old guy at work who's one of the biggest bullys I know.

/I keep telling him he needs therapy

purely psychosomatic

/Lie down on the couch!
//What does that mean?


You're a nut!
You're crazy in the coconut!
 
2012-10-10 05:48:42 AM
Maryland... go figure. I grew up there... they've been practicing stupid for years. I got bullied every day my first year of high school, got beat up pretty good from time to time. I got suspended several times for fighting back. Their mentality is that it's just as bad to fight back as it is to attack someone... so if you get jumped in an MD school, no matter how many people are having a go at you, if you fight back, you're gonna get suspended for the same time as they are. Also, for them, if you just get the crap beat out of you and dont fight back, they say it's your word against the people who beat you up, and without proof, they cant do anything about it.
 
2012-10-10 05:49:41 AM
Before everyone jumps all over the kids accused of performing the bullying, perhaps some perspective is required. Contrary to popular belief, not all children who bully end up as 'poor' adults, and not all children that are bullied (wusses) end up as adults who are too terrified of their own shadow and need help doing up their pants zipper still.

I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being pushed around by better kids in their youth. Actually, not a single person said a nasty word to me the entire time, they could all see how well i've done for myself since HS, I honestly think the look back at those formative years on the playground and thank me silently for what I did.

What I did toughened those loser kids up, and that is a fact. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, that is life. We need to step back as parents and let kids be kids. I am all grown up now and have my own kids, two wonderful boys. They remind us of me at my age, dominant, aggressive and full of energy. They are already taking over the other boys in social settings, this isn't something you want to neuter in your child, rather cultivate in a healthy fashion. I'm sure both of my boys bully other weaker and timid kids at school. Big deal, that's life and everyone finds their way eventually.
 
2012-10-10 05:55:04 AM
One of the guys that picked on me in Elementary school was probably gay and didn't know how to deal with it.
 
2012-10-10 06:02:21 AM

PrinceofFark: Before everyone jumps all over the kids accused of performing the bullying, perhaps some perspective is required. Contrary to popular belief, not all children who bully end up as 'poor' adults, and not all children that are bullied (wusses) end up as adults who are too terrified of their own shadow and need help doing up their pants zipper still.

I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being p ...


The subtlety of this troll post is really a sight to behold. It transcends mere words. I'd consider it an art form, really. You aren't a prince, my friend. You are the King. All hail the king!
 
2012-10-10 06:05:33 AM

Earguy: I hate the word "bully". Say it a few times and it even stops sounding like a real word. Bully. Bullying. Bullied. What does it mean?

Let's start using some other terms: torture, intimidation, humiliation, assault.


If you're applying adult standards to the situation, you should note that the one kid's story about being bullied is entirely anecdotal and no actual assault was filmed. The only verifiable fact in it is that the "bullied" kid has previously assaulted one of the others and gotten no more than a slap on the wrist penalty for it, which would sort of short out my sympathy for an adult. There is a reason we apply different standards to children.

And if you're applying any standards whatsoever you should note that this is a Daily Mail article, i.e. fake/staged.
 
2012-10-10 06:24:01 AM

Atomic Spunk: PrinceofFark: Before everyone jumps all over the kids accused of performing the bullying, perhaps some perspective is required. Contrary to popular belief, not all children who bully end up as 'poor' adults, and not all children that are bullied (wusses) end up as adults who are too terrified of their own shadow and need help doing up their pants zipper still.

I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and ge ...


Only problem is it is too far into the thread. Good trolls have to get in early.
 
2012-10-10 06:37:03 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob:
Only problem is it is too far into the thread. Good trolls have to get in early.


Nah, this thread will make it to 200 or so.
The problem is that the same schtick was done earlier, but admittedly in a less thorough manner.

I hope to see earlier attempts, Prince, you have the skills. (or copy pasta, whichever)
 
2012-10-10 06:37:44 AM
Whomever this bully is, he seems to be a real future serial killer in the making. How dim & deranged must you be to actually go out and attack a kid on camera in full view of a new crew and their cameras? Bet his parents are Teabaggers with Romney signs in each corner of their front yard.

And the whole school staff from the Principal on down to the lunch lady need to be fired for this. They have video proof that they have a violent monster running loose in their school, and all they do is "look into it"? If this sort of thing happened at a factory or office building, the boss would have been taken away in handcuffs along with the perp for negligence that very day. Just because it's a school is no excuse to cut this sort of behavior any slack.

I mean yeah. The kid does have the "circumcised dick head" haircut, but that doesn't mean it's legal to attack him on sight. Point and laugh at him maybe, but not assault.
 
2012-10-10 06:37:50 AM
Happened to me in middle school, 7th and 8th grade. Then my family moved to another part of town and I went to a different school. I swore to myself I wasnt going to put up with that shiat ever again. Started 9th grade, and found one of the bullies from my old school had moved as well, and he immediately started in on me. He slapped me in woodshop, and I went after him, we fought for a few minutes, neither of us winning, but the shop teacher stood there and let us go at it. He kept us after, and gave both of us a choice, going to the principal, and making sure both our families were made fully aware of what happened, or we could stretch out on the work bench and get an attitude adjustment. We both chose the second. Still not sure that was a good idea, but I damn sure didnt want to get home and face my Dad for fighting in school. I had trouble sitting for a couple of days, but I never got any crap from anyone after that either. Had no idea the teacher was basically monitoring the fight just to make sure we didnt cause each other any real damage till the next day when a friend told me. I still look up to him for that.

I think bullying is a crime. If adults did this, they get arrested and locked up. Not saying all kids should get locked up for this, but bullies need to receive enough punishment for this crap that they decide its not worth the 60 seconds of stupid pleasure they get out of it.
 
2012-10-10 06:42:56 AM

PrinceofFark: I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being pushed around by better kids in their youth. Actually, not a single person said a nasty word to me the entire time, they could all see how well i've done for myself since HS, I honestly think the look back at those formative years on the playground and thank me silently for what I did.

What I did toughened those loser kids up, and that is ...




Or more likely, that Secret Service squad you had surrounding you kept you from a proper payback, Mister Romney.
 
2012-10-10 06:45:53 AM
PrinceofFark: I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being pushed around by better kids in their youth. Actually, not a single person said a nasty word to me the entire time, they could all see how well i've done for myself since HS, I honestly think the look back at those formative years on the playground and thank me silently for what I did.

What I did toughened those loser kids up, and that is ...



Or more likely, that Secret Service squad you had surrounding you kept you from a proper payback, Mister Romney.


A Troll responding to a Troll.....
 
2012-10-10 06:48:13 AM
Oh, hey, I have a solution, stop punishing the victims when they stand up for themselves! Bullies now have a pool of timid easy prey because fighting back will get them in trouble.
 
2012-10-10 06:48:17 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.


I was lucky once that one of my teachers took my side when I was bullied. This kid was bold enough to bully me in class in front of everyone, and I finally fired back back by calling him a very stupid name (horsey petunia). The entire class laughed and not AT me for a change. The teacher got such a kick out of my name-calling that she called the bully by the same name. The other kids did the same thing. That bully left me alone for the rest of the year.

He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.
 
2012-10-10 07:01:30 AM

ms_lara_croft: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.

I was lucky once that one of my teachers took my side when I was bullied. This kid was bold enough to bully me in class in front of everyone, and I finally fired back back by calling him a very stupid name (horsey petunia). The entire class laughed and not AT me for a change. The teacher got such a kick out of my name-calling that she called the bully by the same name. The other kids did the same thing. That bully left me alone for the rest of the year.

He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.


There was a boy in middle school who made my life miserable. He had the locker right next to mine, and every day was non-stop verbal (and sometimes physical) abuse.

One day, I'd finally had enough, dropped my books, grabbed him by the shoulders, and slammed him against the lockers. I glared up at him (he was a good 5 or 6 inches taller than me), not saying a word, as he looked down at me in total disbelief. I then let go, turned around, and walked away, while the kids around us let out a collective "Holy shiat!"

He ended up following me around like a puppy dog until I moved away during my sophomore year in high school.

/still keep in touch with him on FB
 
2012-10-10 07:16:13 AM

Commander_Neckbeard: Oh, hey, I have a solution, stop punishing the victims when they stand up for themselves! Bullies now have a pool of timid easy prey because fighting back will get them in trouble.


Unless the administrators have clear proof (above what one student says) they have no way to defend themselves from charges of favoritism if they don't punisht he "victim" when they hit someone. Read through these comments, everyoen crying about "connected" kids getting away with it. What do you think the complaints would be like if teachers were excusing some assaults because in their view the kids doing it were bullied?
 
2012-10-10 07:16:34 AM

KellyKellyKelly: ms_lara_croft: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.

I was lucky once that one of my teachers took my side when I was bullied. This kid was bold enough to bully me in class in front of everyone, and I finally fired back back by calling him a very stupid name (horsey petunia). The entire class laughed and not AT me for a change. The teacher got such a kick out of my name-calling that she called the bully by the same name. The other kids did the same thing. That bully left me alone for the rest of the year.

He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.

There was a boy in middle school who made my life miserable. He had the locker right next to mine, and every day was non-stop verbal (and sometimes physical) abuse.

One day, I'd finally had enough, dropped my books, grabbed him by the shoulders, and slammed him against the lockers. I glared up at him (he was a good 5 or 6 inches taller than me), not saying a word, as he looked down at me in total disbelief. I then let go, turned around, and walked away, while the kids around us let out a collective "Holy shiat!"

He ended up following me around like a puppy dog until I moved away during my sophomore year in high school.

/still keep in touch with him on FB


No one pointed out to you that he obviously liked you? That's textbook.
 
2012-10-10 07:17:10 AM

KrispyKritter: the Daily Fail is trolling you good folks. the kid is wearing his hair like a five year old dressed in a sailor suit by his doting momma. a nun could take one glance and would want to kick the crap out of this twink.


Funny. In my school the nuns WERE the biggest bullies. We hated those farking terrorist penguins. Maybe having a common enemy like that made real bullying less of a problem.
 
2012-10-10 07:18:09 AM

Mock26: Dear Bullies,

Columbine.


Regards,
Bullied Kids.


Please report to yesterday's "Columbine shooters were the bullies, not the bullied" thread. Read the linked book. Those two used to do shiat like follow mentally disabled students around bouncing basketballs off the back of their heads until they cried.
 
2012-10-10 07:19:33 AM
Just keep filming, don't try and help the kid
 
2012-10-10 07:22:52 AM
Please report to yesterday's "Columbine shooters were the bullies, not the bullied" thread. Read the linked book. Those two used to do shiat like follow mentally disabled students around bouncing basketballs off the back of their heads until they cried.

Damn, really? Well then it really was Manson's fault......son of a b*tch

Doctor Jan Itor: One of the guys that picked on me in Elementary school was probably gay and didn't know how to deal with it.


There were two guys in my town who used to beat the sh*t out of just about anyone and everyone. After I came back to visit one time I found out the one guy came out of the closet, has a boyfriend and is the nicest guy ever and the other one got a good job and got his teeth fixed (his parents were abusive and poor, never taking him to the dentist and doctor) and is now also the nicest guy ever.
 
2012-10-10 07:25:36 AM
No such thing as bullying, just weak kids and strong kids. Weak ones need to learn their place early. The world needs ditch diggers too.
 
2012-10-10 07:25:51 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally, I think it's good. Kids need to be bullied when they are young.

How else are they going to be good Citizens? Being bullied prepares you for life. You can't stand up for yourself against a cop or the TSA.....you'll end up in jail. No, you bend over and take it like you did in 3rd grade when that big kid beat you for looking at him funny.


I was going to say something along the lines of "stupid or troll," but maybe you're just making a snarky comment on life in the US ...?
 
2012-10-10 07:27:45 AM

davidphogan: When I was in high school I thought zero-tolerance rules were a bad idea. I have to wonder how much they cause additional problems since it just seems like another way to make sure the victim stays a victim.


Really. If I had kids I would teach them how to fight and stand up for themselves. If the school wants to suspend them for that, fark them.
 
2012-10-10 07:29:30 AM

KellyKellyKelly: ms_lara_croft: AverageAmericanGuy: doglover: But you can always take a side and you should always side AGAINST bullies.

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that teachers will oftentimes not only take the side of the bullies, but will also single out the bullied kid in class, increasing the torment for him.

I was lucky once that one of my teachers took my side when I was bullied. This kid was bold enough to bully me in class in front of everyone, and I finally fired back back by calling him a very stupid name (horsey petunia). The entire class laughed and not AT me for a change. The teacher got such a kick out of my name-calling that she called the bully by the same name. The other kids did the same thing. That bully left me alone for the rest of the year.

He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.

There was a boy in middle school who made my life miserable. He had the locker right next to mine, and every day was non-stop verbal (and sometimes physical) abuse.

One day, I'd finally had enough, dropped my books, grabbed him by the shoulders, and slammed him against the lockers. I glared up at him (he was a good 5 or 6 inches taller than me), not saying a word, as he looked down at me in total disbelief. I then let go, turned around, and walked away, while the kids around us let out a collective "Holy shiat!"

He ended up following me around like a puppy dog until I moved away during my sophomore year in high school.

/still keep in touch with him on FB


I just don't get it. is it just not cool to like some kids so instead they get bullied? It's even less cool to have a crush on a kid who is an outcast. I guess you gain points for torturing those kinds of kids.

I remember a kid who was bullied in elementary school. One of the bullies who was twice his size once told him to not talk, and then he asked him a question. The kid didn't answer and the bully demanded to know why. He said "You just told me to not talk" and he laughed. That somehow broke the bullying spell because I guess those kids didn't expect that kind of answer. The bullies left him alone from that point on. They didn't become friends but they left him alone and picked on someone else.

The crush thing gets me though. Kids really need to learn better courting skills.
 
2012-10-10 07:29:49 AM
The truth is for all the media hype, schools couldn't possibly give less of a fark about bullying. The only thing they understand is threats to their livelihoods, so don't bother with councilors, principals and school boards. Simply lawyer up and call CNN.
 
2012-10-10 07:37:54 AM
this kid needs to sneak up on this guy and smack em in the head with a brick. or perhaps sneak up on him and choke him out and then piss on him.
 
2012-10-10 07:39:29 AM

KellyKellyKelly: He told me years later he bullied me because he had a crush on me. That never made any sense to me. Why torture, mock, and harass a girl because you like her? No wonder so many women marry abusers. They're used to the treatment since high school.

There was a boy in middle school who made my life miserable. He had the locker right next to mine, and every day was non-stop verbal (and sometimes physical) abuse.

One day, I'd finally had enough, dropped my books, grabbed him by the shoulders, and slammed him against the lockers. I glared up at him (he was a good 5 or 6 inches taller than me), not saying a word, as he looked down at me in total disbelief. I then let go, turned around, and walked away, while the kids around us let out a collective "Holy shiat!"

He ended up following me around like a puppy dog until I moved away during my sophomore year in high school.


My daughter has a little boy on her soccer team who has been hurting her at practice every week. Pushing, throwing the elbow, tripping... every week. Subtle enough to be passed off as an accident, or just rough play. I told her it was because she's a better player than him and he can't handle losing every drill to a tiny girl half his size and very cute. And she should respond by upping her game and kicking his ass even more.

Then last week she found a note in her desk, "I really like you," with hearts and smileys and little soccer balls. Yeah, he has stickey notes the color of this note.

Boys are stupid.
 
2012-10-10 07:51:31 AM

ladyfortuna: (partly because my mother allowed me to dress myself, which in retrospect was a terrible idea).


Mrs Wawa and I have the same issue with our daughter (now 8). Left to her own devices, she would dress like a clown. It's a hell of a thing to argue with your kid over - usually "it's for your own good" refers to some benefit that will be reaped far in the future.

It's better now, though. Actually teaching her how to match clothes has helped.
 
2012-10-10 07:53:23 AM

PrinceofFark: Before everyone jumps all over the kids accused of performing the bullying, perhaps some perspective is required. Contrary SNIP ...



0\10 troll points for you
you loose one internet
 
2012-10-10 07:54:31 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet.


calling BS here, just how strong were, are, you?

...troll?
 
2012-10-10 07:55:33 AM

NameDot: AverageAmericanGuy: I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet.

calling BS here, just how strong were, are, you?

...troll?


What, you don't think an average late-30s guy could dangle kids by their ankles? I, for one, believe him totally.
 
GBB
2012-10-10 07:57:31 AM
I was bullied in grade school for several years. Somewhere around 3rd or 4th grade, I had enough. I was hit, tripped, and pushed to the ground. I got up and punched him straight in the throat. It had always been one of my "revenge fantasies" that I never had the nerve to try until then. He went to the hospital. I took a trip to the principal's office. Cops were called. Dad shows up. There were plenty of witnesses that corroborated the event. Administrators kept saying things like, "you should have ran and told a teacher". Tried that, didn't work, several times, a couple were directly to you. "You should never hit back." It's the only solution I hadn't tried, and I was taught that violence should be the last resort.

I was suspended for a week, had to write a half-assed apology. Dad took me on a week's vacation and told me that it's always my responsibility to protect myself, no one elses. I followed their rules and they did nothing to protect me, lesson learned. I stood up for myself and showed that I'm not as weak as my bully assumed, lesson learned.
 
2012-10-10 07:58:45 AM

nonofmybusiness: PrinceofFark: I can attest to both sides of the coin as I was quite the Bully growing up. My parents were well off, I grew up in a world where I always had the newest toys the day they hit Toys R Us, the best summer camps, vacations 4x year, etc. When I went to grade school I simply assumed all of the other kids lived similar lives.


Boy, was I wrong


Instead, what I found was most of these kids were poor, slow witted and destined to become replica's of their very own parents. Long story short, I could not relate to a lot of the kids at school, and whenever I met another kid that fit this description, I beat the hell out of them. My parents put all of us through martial arts / self defence, I was the best trained child at the entire school by far. Any kid who didn't pay respect to me and steer clear at recess would get shaken down for their lunch money and a swift kick to the gut, mouth full of dirt, sleeper hold, etc.

I realize now that I am an adult that the reason I got away with all of this was the school just didn't care, my parents were big contributors to many of the schools interests including the fund raisers, it was simply bad business to upset any of us. Most of the kids that I bullied are still living in town today as grown ups, and you know, from the looks of it most of them ended up just fine. I was back in town last month visiting family and I ran into no less than 7 guys I knew growing up that I pushed around. None of them seemed to hold a grudge and all of them ended up having families and getting jobs, etc. Nothing spectacular but clearly, these poor little kids were able to grow a pair of balls and get over being pushed around by better kids in their youth. Actually, not a single person said a nasty word to me the entire time, they could all see how well i've done for myself since HS, I honestly think the look back at those formative years on the playground and thank me silently for what I did.

What I did toughened those loser kids up, and tha ...


Ha.

I never once lost a fight in my entire grade school education, nor did I need any protection. Everyone needed protection from me, I wasn't a loser. Kids will always seek out who the leader is in a group, lock 6 in a room and watch it happen, nothing wrong with that. The weaker kids don't fold on life and give up because they get the toughening they need, they grow up just fine and probably better off for it, because the world isn't a 'nice' place. 

We aren't talking breaking arms and legs here, this is kids being kids, rough housing. Getting slapped around on the playground isn't a life changing event people, it's part of growing up for some kids. They get over it, you will too.
 
2012-10-10 07:59:11 AM

untaken_name: NameDot: AverageAmericanGuy: I've held many kids by their ankles and dunked them in the toilet.

calling BS here, just how strong were, are, you?

...troll?

What, you don't think an average late-30s guy could dangle kids by their ankles? I, for one, believe him totally.


LMAO. You know me too well.
 
2012-10-10 08:01:48 AM
Step one: Lose the buster brown haircut.
 
2012-10-10 08:01:50 AM

PrinceofFark: Ha.

I never once lost a fight in my entire grade school education, nor did I need any protection. Everyone needed protection from me, I wasn't a loser. Kids will always seek out who the leader is in a group, lock 6 in a room and watch it happen, nothing wrong with that. The weaker kids don't fold on life and give up because they get the toughening they need, they grow up just fine and probably better off for it, because the world isn't a 'nice' place.



I think you just outed yourself.
 
2012-10-10 08:05:34 AM

topcon: Step one: Lose the buster brown haircut.


Haha, sooo true! That look all but guarantees the poor shmuck to be viewed as a punching bag.
 
2012-10-10 08:07:49 AM
pressthebuttons.typepad.com

kids did that on purpose
 
2012-10-10 08:09:43 AM
I always hit back, every single time. I made sure anyone attempting to bully me knew it meant pain would come their way. If it becomes painful enough, they stopped. Many times they'd tell me me they'd get me next time, so next time they saw me, I'd initiate the physical contact and let them know I saw them first.

Yes I did get into a lot of fights as a kid, and yes I knew how to fight, but I was getting beat at home, I damn sure wasn't gonna take it from some punk kid when I could take a punch from a full grown man. By the time I hit high school, I was pretty unhinged when people tried to bully me. A few tried it early on, I knocked one out with one punch in front of everyone in the smoking area. Another told me to meet him after school to fight and I told him "what's wrong with right farking now?" and began wailing on him, he ran off in front of everyone. He tried to catch me after school and before he could even start his shiat talking, I began wailing on him, once again, he ran. Yes, I did get my ass kicked a few times, but I went right back after those guys to let them know I am not a target, and though I may get my ass kicked today, one of these tiems I am going to get a lucky shot in and they are gonna come out the worse for wear.

Truth is: Start wailing on them before they can get the words out of their mouths and they don't get the psychological edge on you, they just get punched in the face.
 
2012-10-10 08:13:36 AM
After the incident, Preston explained he ran from the bullies rather than face them as last week he was suspended for three days for hitting one back after they tackled him.

When this happens it's time to call a good lawyer. There's profit in Administrative Bullying.
 
2012-10-10 08:21:14 AM

Mitrovarr


Sounds like the easiest three assault and battery convictions in the world. So what if they're kids? Charge them as juveniles. Throw them in juvy for a while. Make an example.

^ This.

The "parent" of the victim says she'll take this to the admin? The same admin that has been allowing this for decades? The only reason the admin should see this is because their attorney shows it to them about their defense strategy when being sued for failing to resolve this LONG ago.

This should be taken to the cops
 
2012-10-10 08:26:09 AM
Mock26

Dear Bullies,

Columbine.


Regards,
Bullied Kids.

You might want to check yesterday's columbine thread.
 
2012-10-10 08:26:12 AM
HST's Dead Carcass: and though I may get my ass kicked today, one of these tiems I am going to get a lucky shot in and they are gonna come out the worse for wear.

then stop hanging around high school bullies; you're too old for that, anyhow.
 
2012-10-10 08:26:51 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Only problem is it is too far into the thread. Good trolls have to get in early.


This is what makes serious trolling an expensive prospect - you need a TF account, and you can only use it a few times.
 
2012-10-10 08:29:30 AM
i.imgflip.com
 
2012-10-10 08:32:03 AM
Best way to prevent bullying: Bite the bastards when they try. Often. In sensitive areas.

Worked like a charm for me.
 
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