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(Yahoo)   Security guy at Libyan consulate cabled State Department twice asking for security help, but got no response because no one knows what the hell a "cable" is any more. Well, not quite, but the real reason was just as dumb   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 197
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2012-10-09 11:17:02 PM  

nopokerface: There's lots of funny sh*t on here, I usually manage to avoid this crap. But, I've been drinking....


Maybe this will help you sober up a bit.

According to this article, the total amount of money that this Republican House has tried to cut over the past two years and in the next fiscal budget for embassy security, construction and protection is pushing $1 billion total. Between the Worldwide Security Protection fund and the State Department's own budget, they have already cut nearly $240 million from those two funds just this year, and wanted to cut more. Think that might have had an impact on who was available security duty in Libya?
 
2012-10-09 11:24:15 PM  

nopokerface: Mrtraveler01: I love how you guys keep saying it's bullshiat but haven't been able to prove that it's bullshiat.

I'm sure the Marines are going to be surprised that their funding was cut by Republicans who thought that the State Department was spending excessively. This is the biggest steaming pile in a while. But, who cares? You're in love.



I haven't tagged a blind military shill in a while, good to know you just come right out and admit it
 
2012-10-09 11:24:27 PM  

Captain_Sunshine: nopokerface: There's lots of funny sh*t on here, I usually manage to avoid this crap. But, I've been drinking....

Maybe this will help you sober up a bit.

According to this article, the total amount of money that this Republican House has tried to cut over the past two years and in the next fiscal budget for embassy security, construction and protection is pushing $1 billion total. Between the Worldwide Security Protection fund and the State Department's own budget, they have already cut nearly $240 million from those two funds just this year, and wanted to cut more. Think that might have had an impact on who was available security duty in Libya?


Screw that, now I need a drink!
 
2012-10-09 11:25:18 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Michael Moore and Eric Alterman did.



links?
 
2012-10-09 11:25:34 PM  
He was distracted.

lh4.googleusercontent.com


/thought we wouldn't notice
//but we did
 
2012-10-09 11:25:37 PM  
What blows my mind, is all the people saying "it's the GOP's fault" and "no, the Democrats did it!" How the hell can you not see that both side are a bunch of fark-tards?!?

you gotta vote for somebody, but geez, ya know they're all dipshiats, that's why they're politicains... Thay can't do any real jobs...
 
2012-10-09 11:26:03 PM  

Tatterdemalian: /the left just tosses their spokespeople down the memory hole whenever it turns out they were wrong



And it's strange how you claim those guys are "spokesmen" for the left, when it's your PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE dancing on the graves of the dead.
 
2012-10-09 11:27:10 PM  

nopokerface: It's Obama and the Dems who have cut Defense Department funding, even as they expand our military commitments as quietly as they can



Where? Iraq? Syria? Iran? Where are Democrats expanding it?

And what kind of cuts are taking place exactly? I want names of outraged Generals who are saying these cuts have hurt their ability to operate.
 
2012-10-09 11:28:13 PM  

Captain_Sunshine: nopokerface: There's lots of funny sh*t on here, I usually manage to avoid this crap. But, I've been drinking....

Maybe this will help you sober up a bit.

According to this article, the total amount of money that this Republican House has tried to cut over the past two years and in the next fiscal budget for embassy security, construction and protection is pushing $1 billion total. Between the Worldwide Security Protection fund and the State Department's own budget, they have already cut nearly $240 million from those two funds just this year, and wanted to cut more. Think that might have had an impact on who was available security duty in Libya?



You just don't understand. Because 0bama wants to cut funding to Halliburton and Boeing's defense contracts, that automatically means they are to blame for all issues including an embassy attack. Dumb libtards
 
2012-10-09 11:29:05 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2012-10-09 11:33:49 PM  

nopokerface: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: That's all well and good, but it wasn't an embassy that was attacked.

Hair splitting, so unexpected.


Also, Marines don't guard consulates. Contracted security and local law-enforcement do.
 
2012-10-09 11:40:04 PM  

Carousel Beast: fusillade762: vpb: namatad: the under secretary of state for management, issued a "decision memo" in December 2011 requiring that the Benghazi post be manned with five diplomatic security agents, but that it usually had only three or four.

Because 1-2 more security agents would have made a world of difference??

Yes, that's retarded. If he had known that it would be attacked by a local militia with heavy weapons then he would have requested evacuation.

This.


GAT_00: And here's the Moonie Times no less saying exactly that, the GOP massively cut embassy security budgets.

Yeah, it's right in TFA, too.

The Democratic memo said that since gaining the House majority in 2010 elections, Republicans have voted to reduce embassy security funding by about half a billion dollars below the amount requested by the Obama administration. 

This is a pattern with Republicans. "The government can't do anything right! Look, we'll prove it!!"

Also FTFA:

The cuts to the embassy construction, security and maintenance budget was almost 10 percent of the entire appropriation for that account over those two years, said Scott Lilly, now a scholar at the left-leaning Center for American Progress.

Misleading partisan bullshiat is bullshiat.

What a shame you have so much butthurt over these valid points.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-09 11:40:09 PM  

Sargun: Am I the only one who thinks that a single extra security guard probably wouldn't have stopped the RPG that killed the diplomat?


It would be more efficient to ask if there is anyone who sincerely doesn't think that.
 
2012-10-09 11:42:19 PM  

BuckTurgidson: Sargun: Am I the only one who thinks that a single extra security guard probably wouldn't have stopped the RPG that killed the diplomat?

It would be more efficient to ask if there is anyone who sincerely doesn't think that.



This is the party that believes global warming is false and the Earth is 4000 years old. Good luck with that
 
2012-10-09 11:50:28 PM  

Lehk: Rug Doctor: Tell me, Republicans, should we just approve them all immediately without regard for the cost?

of course, as long as they rob the TANF block grant or EPA to get the money


Or Planned Parenthood and PBS.
 
2012-10-10 12:00:51 AM  

GAT_00: Also there was no money in the budget because once the GOP took over the House they massively cut the budget for protection of embassies.


Well that's just a lie.
 
2012-10-10 12:02:26 AM  

GAT_00: And here's the Moonie Times no less saying exactly that, the GOP massively cut embassy security budgets.


Oh, didn't know that the GOP controlled "Congress" from your link. Could have sworn the Dems controlled the Senate. It is also the State Department that allocates funds once set. There were no other areas to cut, the House forced cuts to Benzghai? You keep derping that chicken.
 
2012-10-10 12:08:48 AM  
Came for the OJ reference...
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Leaving with faith in humanity shaken by Fark slackers. :(
 
2012-10-10 12:10:17 AM  

MyRandomName: GAT_00: And here's the Moonie Times no less saying exactly that, the GOP massively cut embassy security budgets.

Oh, didn't know that the GOP controlled "Congress" from your link. Could have sworn the Dems controlled the Senate. It is also the State Department that allocates funds once set. There were no other areas to cut, the House forced cuts to Benzghai? You keep derping that chicken.


Yeah- the house cut the money drastically, and the Senate managed to get some, but not all, added back in.

Republicans cut the money, Democrats tried to stop the cuts. This isn't hard.
 
2012-10-10 12:11:51 AM  
No matter how mich we spend on defense, someone will die and someone else will be there to say I told ya so.
 
2012-10-10 12:17:20 AM  

Colin O'Scopy: Came for the OJ reference...
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Leaving with faith in humanity shaken by Fark slackers. :(


Aww.... Nevermind...

It was "NordBERG", not "NordSTROM".
 
2012-10-10 12:19:26 AM  
Obama and his white whore lied and an ambassador died.We wont have to worry about his sorry administration after Jan 21.
 
2012-10-10 12:19:39 AM  
Let's see.... Liberals complaining about cuts and not allcation...

2012 State funding - 53.4 Billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_federal_budget

2009 State funding - 38.3 Billion.

Obviously it was the single House of Representatives and republicans fault... not misallocation of funds since 2009.

THE HORROR OF THOSE GOP CUTS! Sad what liberals actually believe. Once again, so you liberals can understand... if you ask for a 10% increase, it is not a cute to your budget to only receive a 7% increase.
 
2012-10-10 12:22:27 AM  

swangoatman: Obama and his white whore lied and an ambassador died.We wont have to worry about his sorry administration after Jan 21.


I don't see what any of this has to do with your mother.
 
2012-10-10 12:22:46 AM  

MyRandomName: not misallocation of funds since 2009.


citation needed

MyRandomName: if you ask for a 10% increase, it is not a cute to your budget to only receive a 7% increase.


Denying funding then blaming 0bama for not increasing security. wrap your heads around that
 
2012-10-10 12:24:06 AM  
If this happened under Bush you guys would be screaming.
 
2012-10-10 12:24:45 AM  

intelligent comment below: MyRandomName: if you ask for a 10% increase, it is not a cute to your budget to only receive a 7% increase.

Denying funding then blaming 0bama for not increasing security. wrap your heads around that


He can't. In his eyes, the Republicans are always right and the side of virtue and truth whereas the Democrats are always wrong and are the evil party determined to hold America back from her greatness.
 
2012-10-10 12:26:54 AM  

Thunderpipes: If this happened under Bush you guys would be screaming.


If Bush got us into Libya based on faulty intelligence info and against the wishes of our allies, then I guess we would be screaming.

(This is just my long form way of saying your false equivalence sucked)
 
2012-10-10 12:27:01 AM  

Thunderpipes: If this happened under Bush you guys would be screaming.


Dude! I LOVE the video! Nice work!
 
2012-10-10 12:29:57 AM  

fusillade762: vpb: namatad: the under secretary of state for management, issued a "decision memo" in December 2011 requiring that the Benghazi post be manned with five diplomatic security agents, but that it usually had only three or four.

Because 1-2 more security agents would have made a world of difference??

Yes, that's retarded. If he had known that it would be attacked by a local militia with heavy weapons then he would have requested evacuation.

This.


GAT_00: And here's the Moonie Times no less saying exactly that, the GOP massively cut embassy security budgets.

Yeah, it's right in TFA, too.

The Democratic memo said that since gaining the House majority in 2010 elections, Republicans have voted to reduce embassy security funding by about half a billion dollars below the amount requested by the Obama administration. 

This is a pattern with Republicans. "The government can't do anything right! Look, we'll prove it!!"


Yeah it's totally the GOP's fault. This makes sense as the White House immediately went into attack mode over it instead of trying to cover up the story like they had made a huge mis....oh nm.
 
2012-10-10 12:32:29 AM  

Brubold: Yeah it's totally the GOP's fault. This makes sense as the White House immediately went into attack mode over it instead of trying to cover up the story like they had made a huge mis....oh nm.


So you're saying they should have gone straight to blaming the Republicans for cutting the security budget? Is that your final answer?
 
2012-10-10 12:33:40 AM  
Fartbongo is in charge. It is his fault. Apply the same stuff to him as you did to Bush, you hippies.
 
2012-10-10 12:35:19 AM  

Thunderpipes: Fartbongo is in charge. It is his fault. Apply the same stuff to him as you did to Bush, you hippies.



You've got a couple alts working the tubes now. At least come up with something better than this
 
2012-10-10 12:36:40 AM  

intelligent comment below: Brubold: Yeah it's totally the GOP's fault. This makes sense as the White House immediately went into attack mode over it instead of trying to cover up the story like they had made a huge mis....oh nm.

So you're saying they should have gone straight to blaming the Republicans for cutting the security budget? Is that your final answer?


At least he's admitting that's what happened.
 
2012-10-10 12:40:23 AM  
You people know damn well if the Bush Administration had pulled the idiocy that the Obama Administration did before and after the attacks the MSM would crucify him for it. It would have ended his reelection bid and rightly so. But since their guy is in office they go right along with the lies about the video being the cause and that it could never have been an act of terrorism.

There were outright lies and a cover up for two weeks after the attack and murder of 4 US citizens operating in an official US capacity and you guys on the Left want to make excuses for Obama and his team.
They had the intel during and after the attack and yet Obama chose to blame it on a video no one had even heard of before his Administration brought it up.
On top of that, they failed to secure the facility after the attack and untold amounts of top secret information fell into the hands of the enemy.
 
2012-10-10 12:41:23 AM  

Colin O'Scopy: Came for the OJ reference...
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Leaving with faith in humanity shaken by Fark slackers. :(


I don't see how more Vitamin C would have helped protect the consulate, but here you go...

upload.wikimedia.org

/yes, I ignored your retraction in order to post a bad joke
 
2012-10-10 12:42:05 AM  

zepher: You people know damn well if the Bush Administration had pulled the idiocy that the Obama Administration did before and after the attacks the MSM would crucify him for it. It would have ended his reelection bid and rightly so. But since their guy is in office they go right along with the lies about the video being the cause and that it could never have been an act of terrorism.

There were outright lies and a cover up for two weeks after the attack and murder of 4 US citizens operating in an official US capacity and you guys on the Left want to make excuses for Obama and his team.
They had the intel during and after the attack and yet Obama chose to blame it on a video no one had even heard of before his Administration brought it up.
On top of that, they failed to secure the facility after the attack and untold amounts of top secret information fell into the hands of the enemy.


Well, if you're gonna suck a dick you might as well suck it all. Nice work. 9/10.
 
2012-10-10 12:44:03 AM  

zepher: You people know damn well if the Bush Administration had pulled the idiocy that the Obama Administration did before and after the attacks the MSM would crucify him for it. It would have ended his reelection bid and rightly so. But since their guy is in office they go right along with the lies about the video being the cause and that it could never have been an act of terrorism.

There were outright lies and a cover up for two weeks after the attack and murder of 4 US citizens operating in an official US capacity and you guys on the Left want to make excuses for Obama and his team.
They had the intel during and after the attack and yet Obama chose to blame it on a video no one had even heard of before his Administration brought it up.
On top of that, they failed to secure the facility after the attack and untold amounts of top secret information fell into the hands of the enemy.


I don't think so. Bush survived the reelection despite the massive controversies surrounding him. Obama is getting his ass crucified by the MSM, you are just ignoring it because it contradicts your preconceptions.

And no, I am no liberal if you were wondering
 
2012-10-10 12:44:06 AM  

zepher: You people know damn well if the Bush Administration had pulled the idiocy that the Obama Administration did before and after the attacks the MSM would crucify him for it.



Of course, like they really CRUCIFIED Bush for Iraq... wait

zepher: It would have ended his reelection bid and rightly so.


0bama's responsible for embassy security now too. What else is this magic wizard capable of?

zepher: But since their guy is in office they go right along with the lies about the video being the cause and that it could never have been an act of terrorism.


Even though the media is in favor of Romney and after the debates they went full derp

zepher: There were outright lies and a cover up for two weeks after the attack and murder of 4 US citizens operating in an official US capacity and you guys on the Left want to make excuses for Obama and his team.


No, there was no solid intel on what exactly happened. a team of FBI agents couldn't even reach the area to investigate

zepher: They had the intel during and after the attack and yet Obama chose to blame it on a video no one had even heard of before his Administration brought it up.


They had the intel? citation needed

The video was what caused all the protests around the region. Are you denying this fact too?

zepher: On top of that, they failed to secure the facility after the attack and untold amounts of top secret information fell into the hands of the enemy.


citation needed

I'm glad to see another desperate shill comes out of the wood work to dance on more graves. It's like Democrats on 9-12-01 all over again
 
2012-10-10 12:47:26 AM  
And they really crucified Bush for failing to prevent 9/11 too

damn that librul MSM
 
2012-10-10 12:48:14 AM  

zepher: On top of that, they failed to secure the facility after the attack and untold amounts of top secret information fell into the hands of the enemy.


That was the mooslems in charge plan.
 
2012-10-10 12:50:25 AM  

swangoatman: zepher: On top of that, they failed to secure the facility after the attack and untold amounts of top secret information fell into the hands of the enemy.

That was the mooslems in charge plan.



I'm sure the US had tons of secret information hidden away at a small temporary embassy in a country just coming out of a civil war that toppled a dictator. I bet the Libyans now know who killed JFK and the codes to the football
 
2012-10-10 01:07:28 AM  

intelligent comment below: zepher: You people know damn well if the Bush Administration had pulled the idiocy that the Obama Administration did before and after the attacks the MSM would crucify him for it.

No, there was no solid intel on what exactly happened. a team of FBI agents couldn't even reach the area to investigate

zepher: They had the intel during and after the attack and yet Obama chose to blame it on a video no one had even heard of before his Administration brought it up.

They had the intel? citation needed

The video was what caused all the protests around the region. Are you denying this fact too?

Pretty sad that you can't even do a simple GIS about it.

Link

Link

The video was virtually unknown until the WH decided to bring it to world wide attention.
Had you heard of it or any protests about it prior to the WH mentioning it?
Didn't think so.
 
2012-10-10 01:10:37 AM  

intelligent comment below: swangoatman: zepher: On top of that, they failed to secure the facility after the attack and untold amounts of top secret information fell into the hands of the enemy.

That was the mooslems in charge plan.


I'm sure the US had tons of secret information hidden away at a small temporary embassy in a country just coming out of a civil war that toppled a dictator. I bet the Libyans now know who killed JFK and the codes to the football


You mean the names and locations of Libyan operatives that were under US control and counterintelligence plans isn't enough for you?
You have to go right for the nuclear launch codes?

Your derp is showing.
 
2012-10-10 01:20:51 AM  

zepher: intelligent comment below: swangoatman: zepher: On top of that, they failed to secure the facility after the attack and untold amounts of top secret information fell into the hands of the enemy.

That was the mooslems in charge plan.


I'm sure the US had tons of secret information hidden away at a small temporary embassy in a country just coming out of a civil war that toppled a dictator. I bet the Libyans now know who killed JFK and the codes to the football

You mean the names and locations of Libyan operatives that were under US control and counterintelligence plans isn't enough for you?
You have to go right for the nuclear launch codes?

Your derp is showing.


So. You were there, have primary knowledge, and have now exposed to the world in general and Al Qaeda in particular the fact that the top-secret CIA NOC list was stored not in Langley Virginia (which would have required a very gay-bondage-themed-mission-impossible sequence) but in a shabby temporary store-front consulate in a town recently reclaimed by violent revolution from a cartoonish anti-American freakshow who made Michael Jackson seem almost on the verge of appearing to be normal.

You masturbate a lot after reading Tom Clancy too, not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2012-10-10 01:21:17 AM  

zepher: Pretty sad that you can't even do a simple GIS about it.

Link

Link

The video was virtually unknown until the WH decided to bring it to world wide attention.
Had you heard of it or any protests about it prior to the WH mentioning it?
Didn't think so.



"unnamed officials"

newsmax

dailyfail

sounds legit

zepher: You mean the names and locations of Libyan operatives that were under US control and counterintelligence plans isn't enough for you?
You have to go right for the nuclear launch codes?

Your derp is showing.



I'm not seeing any real news sources claiming this either

But just goes to show you why we can all thank Republicans for not thinking properly funding the State Department was "worth it"
 
2012-10-10 01:21:25 AM  

voristrupp: I worked extensively in north africa. our security is weak. has been for a decade. we knew benghazi was a security risk because there are al sides loyalists there who routinely attack foreign interests. the Italian consulate was attacked there a few years ago and we know about recurring problems, security should have been tighter.


But it is most important for internet warriors to explain how the Republicans failed
 
2012-10-10 01:22:23 AM  

Fano: But it is most important for internet warriors to explain how the Republicans failed



No big deal, they just underfunded security. What could possibly go wrong? If anything does, BLAME 0BAMA
 
2012-10-10 01:23:44 AM  

BuckTurgidson: So. You were there, have primary knowledge, and have now exposed to the world in general and Al Qaeda in particular the fact that the top-secret CIA NOC list was stored not in Langley Virginia (which would have required a very gay-bondage-themed-mission-impossible sequence) but in a shabby temporary store-front consulate in a town recently reclaimed by violent revolution from a cartoonish anti-American freakshow who made Michael Jackson seem almost on the verge of appearing to be normal.

You masturbate a lot after reading Tom Clancy too, not that there's anything wrong with that.



Not to mention the protesters in Syria and Egypt among others were very vocal about their outrage for the video. But this guy is also claiming the video didn't cause the protests. Obviously his reality is so detached for the rest of the world I think it's just better to pat him on the head and send him back to the padded room.
 
2012-10-10 01:24:21 AM  

BuckTurgidson: You masturbate a lot after reading Tom Clancy too, not that there's anything wrong with that.


Buck, that was uncalled for. He is Tom Clancy. Saying he reads his own books and then masturbates is just...well quite frankly it's disturbing.
 
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