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(CBS Sports)   Remember all those jokes from the official discussion thread about how Billy Cundiff was gonna get fired from his job as kicker for the Washington Redskins? Well, yeah   (cbssports.com) divider line 49
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2012-10-09 03:57:11 PM
Um, no one was joking. If you just got signed this offseason and you miss three kicks in a row, you're not going to have your job for long. I'm actually surprised it didn't happen last week.
 
2012-10-09 07:56:22 PM
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2012-10-09 08:06:02 PM
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NFL
 
2012-10-09 09:09:06 PM
Well duh. The good news is the Skins signed Anton Lubchenko.
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Now he won't have to fall back on his Communications degree.
 
2012-10-09 09:13:40 PM
To be somewhat fair the week before last- after the misses he did hit to win and that had to have saved the job. After this last week, not a surprise, not a joke. Ghods only know what'll be next.
 
2012-10-09 09:15:26 PM
I hear Mike Vanderjagt is still looking for work.
 
2012-10-09 09:27:22 PM
Dude is missing 31-yarders consistently now. It's not like the Redskins are saving him because he will make that clutch kick in the conference championship game.
 
2012-10-09 09:31:02 PM
At this level, they kinda expect you to make the kicks in the games...
 
2012-10-09 09:32:44 PM

Whack-a-Mole: To be somewhat fair the week before last- after the misses he did hit to win and that had to have saved the job.


In baseball, a closing pitcher can't create his own save opportunity. By the same measure, a kicker doesn't get credit in my book for making a winning kick that's only the winner because he missed the previous three.
 
2012-10-09 09:43:08 PM

Whack-a-Mole: To be somewhat fair the week before last- after the misses he did hit to win and that had to have saved the job. After this last week, not a surprise, not a joke. Ghods only know what'll be next.

since RGIII sure doesn't.
 
2012-10-09 09:46:26 PM
Dude was a very reliable kicker all season for the Ravens last year. Then he gets rushed out in a messed up situation and blows the AFC title game. Gets cut.
Now he's a basket case kicker for the Skins. Gets cut again.
You have a choice in football - you can incur endless physical blows to the head or you can become a kicker and wind up in therapy.
 
2012-10-09 09:50:37 PM
well, bye
 
2012-10-09 09:53:42 PM
In terms of being able to work through a slump kicker has to the the worst position in sports. Using similar metrics Mark Sanchez would have been shot into the sun by now...

Not saying I don't understand why but teams really give kickers no chance to get through a bad patch.
 
2012-10-09 10:04:14 PM
czetie     

Whack-a-Mole: To be somewhat fair the week before last- after the misses he did hit to win and that had to have saved the job.

In baseball, a closing pitcher can't create his own save opportunity. By the same measure, a kicker doesn't get credit in my book for making a winning kick that's only the winner because he missed the previous three.

Oh I get that but bottom line his 3 points made the difference. And, whoTF were they going to get toreplace him anyway? They got themselves an extra week to think about it, Cundiff farked short ones and now, I ask again, whoTF are they going to get to replace him?
Don't mind me, just a frustrated (what's new) 'skins fan :)
Also posing mobile so quoting is wide right...
 
2012-10-09 10:41:46 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: In terms of being able to work through a slump kicker has to the the worst position in sports. Using similar metrics Mark Sanchez would have been shot into the sun by now...

Not saying I don't understand why but teams really give kickers no chance to get through a bad patch.


I wonder if serious kicking slumps bear any relation to the ole Steve Sax problem. If so, Billy is screwed.
 
2012-10-09 11:16:48 PM
LACES OUT DAN!!!!!
 
2012-10-09 11:25:47 PM

Tom_Slick: LACES OUT DAN!!!!!


You make fun now. Won't be so funny when Cundiff flips out and kidnaps the Washington Redskin.
 
2012-10-09 11:30:58 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Using similar metrics Mark Sanchez would have been shot into the sun by now...


I just sprayed my monitor wuth coffee. Well done.
 
2012-10-09 11:38:04 PM
Should have kept Gano. His misses were generally the result of being blocked or rushed out on the field due to poor clock management. Obviously blocked isn't really his fault. The football gods will now enact karmic revenge on Washington kickers.
 
2012-10-09 11:54:53 PM

Triumph: Dude was a very reliable kicker all season for the Ravens last year. Then he gets rushed out in a messed up situation and blows the AFC title game. Gets cut.


He hit on 75.7% of his kicks during the regular season last year, which ranked 31st in the NFL. The miss in the AFC Championship game wasn't the cause for his release, it was just the last straw...and when Justin Tucker came in and did well enough in camp/preseason, that was it.
 
2012-10-10 02:20:01 AM

Harv72b: He hit on 75.7% of his kicks during the regular season last year, which ranked 31st in the NFL. The miss in the AFC Championship game wasn't the cause for his release, it was just the last straw...and when Justin Tucker came in and did well enough in camp/preseason, that was it.


Wow - Seemed like he hit more often that 3/4.
I figured stuff like this got in his head during the off-season:
i.usatoday.net
 
2012-10-10 06:28:37 AM

erratick: Should have kept Gano. His misses were generally the result of being blocked or rushed out on the field due to poor clock management. Obviously blocked isn't really his fault. The football gods will now enact karmic revenge on Washington kickers.


So you're saying that the Redskins mgmt made a rushed decision and scapegoated the wrong guy instead of accepting responsibility for their own mistakes? I'm shocked!

Oh wait, no I'm not.

/Also a frustrated 'skins fan.
 
2012-10-10 07:06:05 AM

czetie: erratick: Should have kept Gano. His misses were generally the result of being blocked or rushed out on the field due to poor clock management. Obviously blocked isn't really his fault. The football gods will now enact karmic revenge on Washington kickers.

So you're saying that the Redskins mgmt made a rushed decision and scapegoated the wrong guy instead of accepting responsibility for their own mistakes? I'm shocked!

Oh wait, no I'm not.

/Also a frustrated 'skins fan.


Is there any other kind?
 
2012-10-10 07:13:33 AM

foo monkey: czetie: erratick: Should have kept Gano. His misses were generally the result of being blocked or rushed out on the field due to poor clock management. Obviously blocked isn't really his fault. The football gods will now enact karmic revenge on Washington kickers.

So you're saying that the Redskins mgmt made a rushed decision and scapegoated the wrong guy instead of accepting responsibility for their own mistakes? I'm shocked!

Oh wait, no I'm not.

/Also a frustrated 'skins fan.

Is there any other kind?


Former, like me. I ain't puttin up with that shiat, plain and simple.
 
2012-10-10 07:42:44 AM
Please pick him back, up, Baltimore. And do it before the Texans game. Please?
 
2012-10-10 08:08:00 AM
When Cundiff was released, he was told to pretend the locker room was the uprights. Go that way, hook a left, and keep on going....
 
2012-10-10 08:43:23 AM
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been there, bud. Let's go have a drink
 
2012-10-10 08:51:47 AM

erratick: Should have kept Gano. His misses were generally the result of being blocked or rushed out on the field due to poor clock management. Obviously blocked isn't really his fault. The football gods will now enact karmic revenge on Washington kickers.


So you haven't been watching the Redskins for ~20 years?

We haven't had a consistent kicking game in forever. What else could the football gods do? Cooley used to kicked field goals in warm ups for fun, and people were calling for him to just kick in the game, and doing so in a non joking manner.

Seriously time for open try outs, it can't get any worse.
 
2012-10-10 09:14:51 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: erratick: Should have kept Gano. His misses were generally the result of being blocked or rushed out on the field due to poor clock management. Obviously blocked isn't really his fault. The football gods will now enact karmic revenge on Washington kickers.

So you haven't been watching the Redskins for ~20 years?

We haven't had a consistent kicking game in forever. What else could the football gods do? Cooley used to kicked field goals in warm ups for fun, and people were calling for him to just kick in the game, and doing so in a non joking manner.

Seriously time for open try outs, it can't get any worse.


Given the performance of kickers in Washington and on other teams, perhaps the issue is with the line and/or coaching. Gano is probably one of the better mid-season pickups out there (most of his misses were blocked kicks last year), I hope he gets a shot somewhere.
 
2012-10-10 09:17:12 AM
FTFA: "Kai Forsah was signed to replace him.

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reported Monday that the Redskins were working out three kickers.

La Canfora noted the other two to try out on Monday were Olindo Mare and Josh Brown. But the Redskins are going ahead with Forbath,"

Ummm...So they worked out *four* kickers? And why did they sign *two* of them? Hedging their bets?

www.districtdiva.com

/Are we sure it's Billy's fault?
 
2012-10-10 09:20:38 AM

Shaggy_C: I hear Mike Vanderjagt is still looking for work.


Its hard to look for gainful employment when you spend most of your day on a barstool.
 
2012-10-10 10:08:39 AM

nelsonal: DoBeDoBeDo: erratick: Should have kept Gano. His misses were generally the result of being blocked or rushed out on the field due to poor clock management. Obviously blocked isn't really his fault. The football gods will now enact karmic revenge on Washington kickers.

So you haven't been watching the Redskins for ~20 years?

We haven't had a consistent kicking game in forever. What else could the football gods do? Cooley used to kicked field goals in warm ups for fun, and people were calling for him to just kick in the game, and doing so in a non joking manner.

Seriously time for open try outs, it can't get any worse.

Given the performance of kickers in Washington and on other teams, perhaps the issue is with the line and/or coaching. Gano is probably one of the better mid-season pickups out there (most of his misses were blocked kicks last year), I hope he gets a shot somewhere.


Last year they were blocks the year before he missed 9 wasn't even at 65%. He DOES have a UFL Championship ring though so he's got that going for him.
 
2012-10-10 10:13:34 AM
Sorry my dyslexia (non existent) kicked in he missed 11!

Including this 1 for 3 performance all inside 35 yards.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81cd65b7/Redski n s-Gano-has-game-to-forget

Yeah the last (would have been 4th) attempt was a bad snap but before that he was just awful, the one he made BARELY made it in.

He was a shankfest.
 
2012-10-10 11:36:31 AM
Billy? All this time I thought his name was Rusty...
 
2012-10-10 12:23:18 PM
Josh Brown is a dick. Don't sign that guy. Olindo Mare would have been okay. I've never heard of the guy they signed, and evidently the author of TFA hasn't either, since he can't figure out what his name is.
 
2012-10-10 12:26:32 PM

Sweet Chin Music: Billy? All this time I thought his name was Rusty...


i830.photobucket.com

No, I'M Rusty.

/I'm ruuuuuustyyyyyyy
 
2012-10-10 12:36:56 PM

Super Chronic: I've never heard of the guy they signed, and evidently the author of TFA hasn't either, since he can't figure out what his name is.


Kai Forbath - if you follow Pac-10 football (before it was the Pac-12) then you'd know him.

/holy sh*t I googled to make sure I was right...that dude's 25 years have been savage to him.
 
2012-10-10 01:09:16 PM
As someone said in the comment section on the Baltimore Sun...

He got something like five million in all out of actually doing what he was suppose to be doing and making the pro bowl one year.

Other than that he was a pretty shiatty kicker.

Though I did have to laugh in the New England game this year when Tucker almost shanked it to the right at the end of the game.
 
2012-10-10 04:15:27 PM
I've always thought it's a little strange that teams don't have backup kickers. I guess if you're a kicker, you wanna be starting somewhere. But strange that Cundiff goes from being the starter to released.
 
2012-10-10 04:32:06 PM

Dafatone: I've always thought it's a little strange that teams don't have backup kickers. I guess if you're a kicker, you wanna be starting somewhere. But strange that Cundiff goes from being the starter to released.


Not that strange, given the fixed-size game roster.

In-game injuries to kickers are fairly rare, so it's wasteful to have a dedicated backup. Typically, the kicker and the punter are each other's backups for that eventuality. And with relatively few field goal attempts in a typical game, it's hard to know if your kicker is having a bad game except in retrospect. Are you going to pull him after two misses? Three? Also, what quality of kicker is going to be a backup? Look at how hard it is for all 32 teams to find one decent kicker, let alone a second kicker that they'd actually consider putting in for a critical situation.

So really, not that strange. 

Personally, I would be happy to see kicking abolished entirely from football.
 
2012-10-10 06:46:25 PM

Well, I updated this today:


i.imgur.com


And I can't believe this is the top NFL thread. COME ON

If you don't think you've been counted, the link is in my profile.

Also, I was gonna ask: would you guys rather have percentages or totals? 

AND, sotua, who is a filthy Eagles fan, was our 700th Farker to be included in the graph. Seriously, you guys. I've got 703 of you accounted for in this thing. It really does kind of blow my mind.

Oh and one more thing COWBOYS FANS RULE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
2012-10-10 07:05:46 PM

Di Atribe:

If you don't think you've been counted, the link is in my profile.


Just filled it out you need to re-update

Also update your profile to note Romo has the second highest Delhomme rating since its inception!

/He farking sucks
 
2012-10-10 07:06:28 PM
Sorry is TIED for the highest, just the second guy to get there

/Still farking sucks
 
2012-10-10 07:29:43 PM

czetie: Personally, I would be happy to see kicking abolished entirely from football.


So it would just be called "ball" then?
 
2012-10-10 10:38:40 PM

Di Atribe: Well, I updated this today:

[i.imgur.com image 484x718]

And I can't believe this is the top NFL thread. COME ON

If you don't think you've been counted, the link is in my profile.

Also, I was gonna ask: would you guys rather have percentages or totals? 

AND, sotua, who is a filthy Eagles fan, was our 700th Farker to be included in the graph. Seriously, you guys. I've got 703 of you accounted for in this thing. It really does kind of blow my mind.

Oh and one more thing COWBOYS FANS RULE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


how about dem cowboys?

time to add a vote for the loyal opposition
 
2012-10-11 09:41:58 AM

Di Atribe:
AND, sotua, who is a filthy Eagles fan, was our 700th Farker to be included in the graph.


Sorry. Can't help it.

/unless my godmother decides to relocate :-D
 
2012-10-11 09:42:52 AM

czetie: Look at how hard it is for all 32 teams to find one decent kicker, let alone a second kicker that they'd actually consider putting in for a critical situation.


Well, there are a lot of good kickers, including guys that aren't even in the NFL - the problem is that we assume that they should be 100% accurate and/or get touchbacks every time on kickoffs. Virtually every kicker is more accurate from longer distances than the best kickers of decades ago.
 
2012-10-11 11:27:36 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: /He farking sucks


DoBeDoBeDo: Just filled it out you need to re-update

Also update your profile to note Romo has the second highest Delhomme rating since its inception!

/He farking sucks


Like I'm gonna listen to anything a stinky Redskins fan has to say. PFFFFFFFFFFT


CodeMonkey4Life: how about dem cowboys?


2-2 just like the Steelers, better than the Packers, and one win away from being tied with the Patriots, so..... about the same or better than half the league.


sotua: Sorry. Can't help it.

/unless my godmother decides to relocate :-D


You seem pretty cool otherwise. ;)
 
2012-10-12 09:32:28 AM

IAmRight: or get touchbacks every time on kickoffs


Actually, you want your kicker to plant the ball *just outside* of the endzone, so as to force your opponent to start at the 1-yard line or so. It's the *NFL* who wants the kicker to get a touchback every time. No runback = less chance of injury. At least, that's their theory.
 
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