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(The Atlantic Cities)   American cities' equality ratings puts them on par with countries like Swaziland and El Salvador   (theatlanticcities.com) divider line 29
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2012-10-09 03:13:13 PM  
4 votes:
ricketyclick.com
2012-10-09 03:41:36 PM  
3 votes:

Vectron: Nightsweat: Vectron: A country spends decades importing people from 3rd world countries and then it is surprised it looks like a 3rd world country. Damn out how does that work?

Yeah, letting those Irish in was a huge mistake. ANd don't get me started on the Italians.


Those aren't 3rd world countries. I'm talking about poor people from Central America. We're importing poverty.



Yes, but we're also exporting wealth, so it all evens out.

Our next goal should be to make everyone the same color.
2012-10-09 03:05:24 PM  
3 votes:
But...but...trickle down!!!
2012-10-09 11:08:45 AM  
3 votes:
Yeah but if we can get unemployment up to 20% we can actually bust those unions and then bring all those manufacturing jobs back here from China and Thailand and the Philippines.
2012-10-09 03:50:32 PM  
2 votes:
Clearly, there's only one thing to do: Lower income taxes on high-earning job creators.
And eliminate capital gains taxes ... two. Two things to do: Lower income taxes on high-earning job creators and eliminate capital gains taxes and estate taxes. THREE! The three things we must do to raise the tide and make all the boats float, 1) Lower income taxes on high-earning job creators, 2) eliminate capital gains taxes, 3) eliminate estate taxes, and 4) drop the corporate tax rate. *sigh* There are precisely FOUR things we must do: lower the top marginal tax rate, eliminate capital gains taxes, eliminate estate taxes, drop the corporate tax rate, and deregulate everything Oh Damn!

Congressman Biggles, you'll have to say it!
2012-10-09 03:47:39 PM  
2 votes:
thepatriotperspective.files.wordpress.com
2012-10-09 03:31:00 PM  
2 votes:

CmndrFish: mysticcat: What a ridiculous statistic. The goal is not equality. If that were the case, a nation that was entirely dirt poor would be the winner.

What you're looking for is standard of living. For instance, in Swaziland, 70% of the population lives below the poverty line, in the Dominican Republic 34%, in El Salvador 37%, Madagascar 50%, Phillipines 27%, Nigeria 70%. Jamaica and Malaysia are actually pretty reasonable at 4%(!) and 17%. In the U.S. that number is 15%. (CIA World Factbook). The U.S. could do better, but comparing us to countries like Denmark and Sweden is unfair

Why should we not compare ourselves to other developed nations of the world? The Scandinavian model results in less poor people while still retaining high overall wealth. Why would we not want that?


oh oh I got this one! Cuz Socialism warrrgarrrable!!

(amidoinitrite?)
2012-10-09 03:18:33 PM  
2 votes:
Égalité !

Fairness above all !

How can it be fair that you have so much when I have so little ?
2012-10-09 03:08:05 PM  
2 votes:

mysticcat: The U.S. could do better, but comparing us to countries like Denmark and Sweden is unfair


So much for American Exceptionalism.
2012-10-09 03:05:49 PM  
2 votes:

mysticcat: What a ridiculous statistic. The goal is not equality. If that were the case, a nation that was entirely dirt poor would be the winner.

What you're looking for is standard of living. For instance, in Swaziland, 70% of the population lives below the poverty line, in the Dominican Republic 34%, in El Salvador 37%, Madagascar 50%, Phillipines 27%, Nigeria 70%. Jamaica and Malaysia are actually pretty reasonable at 4%(!) and 17%. In the U.S. that number is 15%. (CIA World Factbook). The U.S. could do better, but comparing us to countries like Denmark and Sweden is unfair


You win the "Crown of Lowering Expectations" this week.
2012-10-09 06:51:36 PM  
1 votes:

serial_crusher: So, the solution is to shuffle rich people around to average out the local numbers? Or just have all the rich people take their money out of the country so everyone's poor?


That's the historical solution.
2012-10-09 04:45:56 PM  
1 votes:
i14.photobucket.com

It stinks like freepers in here.
2012-10-09 04:22:26 PM  
1 votes:
"Detroit (.457) matches up with the Philippines (.458)."

I'm sure the Philippines are quite offended to be compared to or equated with Detroit in any way.
2012-10-09 04:15:54 PM  
1 votes:
I love how these numbers are always trotted out to make the wealthy in the U.S. feel bad. It's the most ridiculous statistic ever.

Compared to all those "enlightened" european nations that **might** be doing better on equality, the United States essentially LETS ANYONE THROUGH ITS BORDERS if they're looking for work. In those European nations, they will literally throw un-documented workers in jail. The US Makes it easy to come here with nothing and make a life, other developed nations make it hard. Because of this you will ALWAYS have a large underclass in the US, hence THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A LARGER INCOME DISPARITY here than elsewhere in the developed world. Now please stop pulling out the Bullshiat about how Americans are greedy bastages with huge wealth/income/opportunity disparities.

NEXT SUBJECT.
2012-10-09 04:08:39 PM  
1 votes:
In other news: Areas of America where dad doesn't stick around and help raise junior (whatever his skin color may be) have similar rates of inequality to places in the rest of the world where dad doesn't stick around and help raise junior.
2012-10-09 04:00:14 PM  
1 votes:
frankandjan.com
2012-10-09 03:53:08 PM  
1 votes:

serial_crusher: So, the solution is to shuffle rich people around to average out the local numbers? Or just have all the rich people take their money out of the country so everyone's poor?


No, it's the poor that should go. Push the bottom 99% out of the country, and everybody becomes rich. Inequity solved.
2012-10-09 03:52:55 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Vectron: Nightsweat: Vectron: A country spends decades importing people from 3rd world countries and then it is surprised it looks like a 3rd world country. Damn out how does that work?

Yeah, letting those Irish in was a huge mistake. ANd don't get me started on the Italians.


Those aren't 3rd world countries. I'm talking about poor people from Central America. We're importing poverty.


Yes, but we're also exporting wealth, so it all evens out.

Our next goal should be to make everyone the same color.


Interracial sex parties will take care of that.
2012-10-09 03:51:30 PM  
1 votes:

Pray 4 Mojo: Somebody should write a book about what happens when we strive for equality as a goal.

Somebody should write a song about it too.


How about just a graph?
gccds.org
2012-10-09 03:27:08 PM  
1 votes:

mysticcat: What a ridiculous statistic. The goal is not equality. If that were the case, a nation that was entirely dirt poor would be the winner.

What you're looking for is standard of living. For instance, in Swaziland, 70% of the population lives below the poverty line, in the Dominican Republic 34%, in El Salvador 37%, Madagascar 50%, Phillipines 27%, Nigeria 70%. Jamaica and Malaysia are actually pretty reasonable at 4%(!) and 17%. In the U.S. that number is 15%. (CIA World Factbook). The U.S. could do better, but comparing us to countries like Denmark and Sweden is unfair


Gini coefficients are a time worn and accepted method for discussing geographies of inequality in populations. The method has its faults, but its generally agreed upon that they are a good method for quantifying inequality at a varity of scales. So nah [sticks out tongue].

Next week, can we learn how the elevation of your home has a direct correlation with your race? That was always my favorite lesson to teach in human geography.
2012-10-09 03:25:46 PM  
1 votes:
There's a guy in my town worth $2 billion. I'm worth about $8 grand. BUT, if you take the average, we're both billionaires, and that's still pretty farking good.
2012-10-09 03:23:21 PM  
1 votes:
Somebody should write a book about what happens when we strive for equality as a goal.

Somebody should write a song about it too.
2012-10-09 03:19:55 PM  
1 votes:

big pig peaches: What was the point of the article?


Richard Florida's ex-wife has an alimony payment due.
2012-10-09 03:13:44 PM  
1 votes:

mysticcat: What a ridiculous statistic. The goal is not equality. If that were the case, a nation that was entirely dirt poor would be the winner.

What you're looking for is standard of living. For instance, in Swaziland, 70% of the population lives below the poverty line, in the Dominican Republic 34%, in El Salvador 37%, Madagascar 50%, Phillipines 27%, Nigeria 70%. Jamaica and Malaysia are actually pretty reasonable at 4%(!) and 17%. In the U.S. that number is 15%. (CIA World Factbook). The U.S. could do better, but comparing us to countries like Denmark and Sweden is unfair


Why should we not compare ourselves to other developed nations of the world? The Scandinavian model results in less poor people while still retaining high overall wealth. Why would we not want that?
2012-10-09 03:13:19 PM  
1 votes:
Come to the islands, mon. Denver = Jamaica... close.. but not really.
2012-10-09 03:10:21 PM  
1 votes:

Vectron: A country spends decades importing people from 3rd world countries and then it is surprised it looks like a 3rd world country. Damn out does that work?


Yeah, letting those Irish in was a huge mistake. ANd don't get me started on the Italians.
2012-10-09 03:09:49 PM  
1 votes:
Why should I care about this?
2012-10-09 02:49:32 PM  
1 votes:

coco ebert: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Ah. I see Richard Florida has found something new to latch onto. He didn't seem to give a damn about poverty back when he was shilling his "Creative Class" thesis, like some sort of carnival huckster.

Neither did Jeffrey Sachs when he was neoliberalizing Eastern Europe and Latin America to the point of almost starving the citizenry. Now all of a sudden he's all about "The End of Poverty". GTFO.


It's almost as if certain economists are trying to peddle books trumpeting the newest fad to the gullible masses.
2012-10-09 01:45:13 PM  
1 votes:
What a ridiculous statistic. The goal is not equality. If that were the case, a nation that was entirely dirt poor would be the winner.

What you're looking for is standard of living. For instance, in Swaziland, 70% of the population lives below the poverty line, in the Dominican Republic 34%, in El Salvador 37%, Madagascar 50%, Phillipines 27%, Nigeria 70%. Jamaica and Malaysia are actually pretty reasonable at 4%(!) and 17%. In the U.S. that number is 15%. (CIA World Factbook). The U.S. could do better, but comparing us to countries like Denmark and Sweden is unfair
 
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