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(Big 1059)   "Yes, 9-1-1? Hi. I'm 15, and I just killed my family with a gun. I thought it would be quick and painless for them, but everything kinda went wrong"   (big1059.com) divider line 354
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2012-10-09 01:48:24 PM  
If only more guns had been easily accessible in this household (behind the microwave, under the sink, between the seat cushions, inside a meatball grinder) this tragedy would have easily been averted. Thanks Fartb0ngo.
 
2012-10-09 01:48:52 PM  
Some 2nd amendment "rights" enthusiast kills his family?

Not news.

Happens every week in the US.

/ White people problems
 
2012-10-09 01:49:34 PM  

jaylectricity: Born_Again_Bavarian: / Too obscure?

Blockbuster movies made out of blockbuster novels are never obscure.

Now Hunger Games...that...that would be obscure.


This isn't a blockbuster movie...........yet. Hence the "obscure" comment. I think they are still working on the script.
 
2012-10-09 01:49:39 PM  
assets.nydailynews.com


his sisters are really nice looking. burn him.
 
2012-10-09 01:50:24 PM  
Death Penalty sure comes in handy here.

/don't give a shiat about his age
//or whether he's crazy
 
2012-10-09 01:52:52 PM  

ElLoco: nmemkha: I'm sure Texas will eventually 'inject a little sense' into the boy.

If by 'inject,' you mean 'hit in the side of the head with a roofing hammer'... then yea, I'm ok with that.


There is no death penalty or even life without parole allowed anymore for juvenile killers. The Supreme Court nixed both, one in I think 2005, and the other last term. They can sentence him to life in prison, but they do have to at least allow for the possibility of parole in the future. Think Charles Manson.
 
2012-10-09 01:52:58 PM  

jaytkay: Some 2nd amendment "rights" enthusiast kills his family?

Not news.

Happens every week in the US.

/ White people problems


8/10 because I bit and had this typed up inside of a min.

RTFA and if you're going to point a finger point it at the lack of give a fark on the part of the psycho. If there wasn't a gun it would have been a bat or a knife or a golfclub.

Crazy finds a way
 
2012-10-09 01:54:59 PM  
I think this is going to really mess him up in the future.
 
2012-10-09 01:55:01 PM  
The reason why this happened is because the scarcity of guns in the house. If every family member owned a gun, this would never have happened. The fewer guns there are, the more people die.
 
2012-10-09 01:55:13 PM  
I am surprised there wasn't any reference to violent video games in the article, I guess that is for a follow up story. Growing up I played violent video games, paintball and watched violent movies so look out everyone I am way overdo to go on a murdering rampage.
 
2012-10-09 01:55:21 PM  
Try him as an adult, give him death.

There is a story below about how Sandusky was sentenced today for raping a bunch of little boys. This kid ended the lives of his sister and mother in cold blood, convict him as an adult and execute him.
 
2012-10-09 01:57:05 PM  

BeatrixK: The 911 operator was awfully warm and fuzzy, given that the little shiat just murdered 20% of his family.


Listening to it now, but I think part of her job is to keep things calm. She doesn't know exactly what happened, if the kid is a prankster or serious or thinking about gunning down the officers that are coming in. She gains nothing by starting to call him every name in the book, even if she's thinking it. Also, by talking calmly and asking questions, she got his confession and explanation on tape rather than rile him up and get him all shooty again.
 
2012-10-09 01:57:21 PM  
Qu'est-que c'est
/Better run run run run awayyyy...
 
2012-10-09 01:58:20 PM  

othmar: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x357]


his sisters are really nice looking. burn him.


I wonder why they all look like they're forcing their smiles?
 
2012-10-09 01:58:29 PM  

vsavatar: ElLoco: nmemkha: I'm sure Texas will eventually 'inject a little sense' into the boy.

If by 'inject,' you mean 'hit in the side of the head with a roofing hammer'... then yea, I'm ok with that.

There is no death penalty or even life without parole allowed anymore for juvenile killers. The Supreme Court nixed both, one in I think 2005, and the other last term. They can sentence him to life in prison, but they do have to at least allow for the possibility of parole in the future. Think Charles Manson.


Texas executes the mentally disabled. They will find a way.
 
2012-10-09 01:58:39 PM  
Death by a .22?

Jesus... why not stab them with a spoon.
 
2012-10-09 01:58:49 PM  

Mark Ratner: dragonchild: I was told there was nothing left. No reason, no conscience, no understanding; even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, good or evil, right or wrong. I met this seventeen-year-old child, with this blank, pale, emotionless face and, the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes.

[www.wearysloth.com image 320x240]


Are we talking Damien or Michael Myers?
 
2012-10-09 01:59:23 PM  
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It's always the guns fault to the uber lib. Did you ever consider a baseball bat an ASSUALT WEAPON? It's not the tool, it's the whack job/thug pulling the trigger.
 
2012-10-09 01:59:58 PM  
Not defending the kid's actions, but the sister was a racist biatch, and he did intend to kill her quickly and painlessly.
 
2012-10-09 02:00:58 PM  

CrappityCrap: Death Penalty sure comes in handy here.

/don't give a shiat about his age
//or whether he's crazy


You sound just as sociopathic as this poor kid. Get some help, please.
 
2012-10-09 02:01:35 PM  
My cousin: Completely stable, normal, happy etc.. One day went to some garage sales with my Aunt. At the end of the day, he said goodbye to my Aunt and went home. Later, he flipped out, tried to run over his wife, went back to one of the Garage Sales, entered the home, found a gun, told the home owner he didn't know what to do. The home owner called the police, there was a stand off, Frankie lifted the gun and fired when they told him to drop it, and the Police shot him dead.

We (the whole family) have no idea what happened. Never saw that coming. Never would have guessed in a million years that this would have involved my cousin.
 
2012-10-09 02:02:22 PM  

Launch Code: Did you ever consider a baseball bat an ASSUALT WEAPON?


Wouldn't that be battery? A lot of people confuse the two.
 
2012-10-09 02:02:37 PM  

Sasquach: I need to find a corroborating link.....for some reason, I can't trust a story sourced from Beck...


Pretty much the same thing....Pops


From that article:

Evans and his sister Mallory were being home-schooled.

And suddenly, everything else makes sense.
 
2012-10-09 02:03:57 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: Guns don't kill people. Bullets fired from guns do.


Knives don't kill people, hands holding knives moving quickly toward people do.
 
2012-10-09 02:04:20 PM  

BeatrixK: The 911 operator was awfully warm and fuzzy, given that the little shiat just murdered 20% of his family.


She's probably a mother, and she realizes the kid is out of his farking gourd and knows he's in pain. And the natural instinct of any mother is going to be to try to comfort a kid in that situation. She's also trained to keep the caller on the line, and to form enough of a bond that the caller will comply with her directions -- that's a pretty critical skill if you're trying to make sure the person calling doesn't freak out and miss an opportunity to provide medical care to any injured on site. That's going to be hard to turn off, even when the caller is a murdering shiathead. And she's also there to try to keep him calm and from killing himself or any police/EMS that show up.
 
2012-10-09 02:05:59 PM  

jaylectricity: Wouldn't that be battery? A lot of people confuse the two.


Most states' criminal codes don't have a distinguished battery charge; that's an old common law thing. (I think it may survive in the US as a civil tort.)

Ever hear of "battery with intent to kill"?
 
2012-10-09 02:07:41 PM  
So - question for all you legal scholars out there...

He basically confesses on tape to the 911 dispatcher. Is that considered admissible in court? Should the operator be reading him his rights and advising him he may need to be quiet? Will a sharp defense attorney be able to get that thrown out along with anything else that comes from that subsequent search as a direct result of the 911 call (guns, bullets, etc)

Was his confession on 911 a brilliant ploy to get his case tossed on a technicality?

Texas lawyers, what say you?
 
2012-10-09 02:07:59 PM  
Ever hear of "battery with intent to kill"?

Isn't that where you deliberately hit someone with a Smart Car?
 
2012-10-09 02:08:24 PM  
Any 'I just shot half the women in my famil'y porn?
 
2012-10-09 02:08:26 PM  

othmar: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x357]


his sisters are really nice looking. burn him.


I'm guessing the one on the left is the college girl? She looks like she'll need some consoling...
 
2012-10-09 02:10:54 PM  

JohnCarter: He basically confesses on tape to the 911 dispatcher. Is that considered admissible in court? Should the operator be reading him his rights and advising him he may need to be quiet? Will a sharp defense attorney be able to get that thrown out along with anything else that comes from that subsequent search as a direct result of the 911 call (guns, bullets, etc)


Yes, the audio, the transcribed call, and her notes from the call are all admissible.

No, 911 calls aren't custodial interrogations.

No, all of that would be admissible, too, assuming no independent defect.
 
2012-10-09 02:11:58 PM  

nmemkha: vsavatar: ElLoco: nmemkha: I'm sure Texas will eventually 'inject a little sense' into the boy.

If by 'inject,' you mean 'hit in the side of the head with a roofing hammer'... then yea, I'm ok with that.

There is no death penalty or even life without parole allowed anymore for juvenile killers. The Supreme Court nixed both, one in I think 2005, and the other last term. They can sentence him to life in prison, but they do have to at least allow for the possibility of parole in the future. Think Charles Manson.

Texas executes the mentally disabled. They will find a way.


What's the age limit on that? 18? Do they measure that based on when the crime is committed or when the sentence is given? Cause he'll be 18 by the time this goes to trial.
 
2012-10-09 02:12:00 PM  

digitalrain: Mark Ratner: dragonchild: I was told there was nothing left. No reason, no conscience, no understanding; even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, good or evil, right or wrong. I met this seventeen-year-old child, with this blank, pale, emotionless face and, the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes.

[www.wearysloth.com image 320x240]

Are we talking Damien or Michael Myers?


Michael Myers. The quoter changed his age from 8 to 17. I always liked the next line when Loomis says, "I spent eight years trying to reach him and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized that what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply evil." How did Loomis realize that the Michael was pure evil if all he ever did was stare at a wall in a catatonic state?
 
2012-10-09 02:12:40 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: Death by a .22?

Jesus... why not stab them with a spoon.


Ah yes, those terrible, non-lethal .22's....

2.bp.blogspot.com 

/hot like a muzzle
//kid is seriously broken. You have to HOPE there's a story there, otherwise...
 
2012-10-09 02:13:15 PM  
As his basis for wanting to commit murder, Evans ironically said that he didn't like the negative attitudes people generally have. He also explained that his family was suffocating him and then said that he is "evil."

Hmmm...not sure how they could have gotten that idea.

The teen also admitted that "this is really going to mess me up in the future."

Since this happened in Texas, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest "not for long it won't."
 
2012-10-09 02:13:21 PM  

nmemkha: Quasar: Sounds a bit sociopathic.

He would have made an excellent CEO if he could have channeled the violence into hurting people in other ways.


Yup.

So much for ever becoming President...
 
2012-10-09 02:15:58 PM  

othmar: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x357]


his sisters are really nice looking. burn him.


Imagine being the only, and homely, boy in that family. Imagine the amount of "we don't give a fark about you" he could've taken, year after year, until he finally just shot them in the face. He sounds completely disassociated in the call - not sociopathic, but truly disconnected from both the act and himself. He sounds like a walking case of depersonalization disorder. We don't know what happened - we just know what's in the article, and it's horrible.
 
2012-10-09 02:16:03 PM  

Launch Code: Did you ever consider a baseball bat an ASSUALT WEAPON?


Did you ever consider a baseball bat an assault weapon... ON WEED?
 
2012-10-09 02:16:26 PM  

JohnCarter: So - question for all you legal scholars out there...

He basically confesses on tape to the 911 dispatcher. Is that considered admissible in court? Should the operator be reading him his rights and advising him he may need to be quiet? Will a sharp defense attorney be able to get that thrown out along with anything else that comes from that subsequent search as a direct result of the 911 call (guns, bullets, etc)

Was his confession on 911 a brilliant ploy to get his case tossed on a technicality?

Texas lawyers, what say you?


Well from my understanding (I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn), the Miranda rules only apply to confessing while under interrogation. Anything you manage to do to incriminate yourself is pretty much fair game (within the limits of what is admissible in court.)

The Miranda rules are in place for when the cops would have nothing on you except for your own testimony. (Thus why the fifth amendment applies.) In this case, the accused was not speaking to a police officer, he was talking to a 911 dispatcher. And her testimony is still perfectly admissible because it can hardly be said she coerced him into confessing after HE called HER.
 
2012-10-09 02:18:15 PM  
I live in Texas, and I'm surrounded by... well, you people, apparently, so way to go.

Being against the death penalty means you're against the death penalty. There's no "unless", there's no "except". If you aren't willing to, if necessary, pay for the care and treatment of someone like this for the remainder of their natural life, you need to shut the fark up about your principles.

/against the death penalty
 
2012-10-09 02:18:22 PM  
I wonder how he felt about Whitney Houston's music?
 
2012-10-09 02:18:36 PM  
Okay, that's it. Check please. I'm done with people.

/some allergies
 
2012-10-09 02:19:58 PM  

serial_crusher: nmemkha: vsavatar: ElLoco: nmemkha: I'm sure Texas will eventually 'inject a little sense' into the boy.

If by 'inject,' you mean 'hit in the side of the head with a roofing hammer'... then yea, I'm ok with that.

There is no death penalty or even life without parole allowed anymore for juvenile killers. The Supreme Court nixed both, one in I think 2005, and the other last term. They can sentence him to life in prison, but they do have to at least allow for the possibility of parole in the future. Think Charles Manson.

Texas executes the mentally disabled. They will find a way.

What's the age limit on that? 18? Do they measure that based on when the crime is committed or when the sentence is given? Cause he'll be 18 by the time this goes to trial.


Age limit is 18, determined at the time the crime is committed, not the date of sentencing.
 
2012-10-09 02:20:10 PM  

chaoswolf: I wonder why they all look like they're forcing their smiles?


Have you ever tried smiling at gunpoint?

/too soon?
 
2012-10-09 02:20:52 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Which is why from now on all movie death scenes need to be done like this one from Turkey.


Thank you for that. Made my day. Who knew getting shot multiple times would hurt like hell?

JohnCarter: So - question for all you legal scholars out there..


In Texas, he will get the death penalty for using such an embarrassingly small gun.
 
2012-10-09 02:21:49 PM  
Why does that family photo look like a hostage situation?
 
2012-10-09 02:25:57 PM  
I blame the "Twilight " posters in his room.
/Death by 22 cal for him.
 
2012-10-09 02:26:29 PM  
The father was in D.C. This reeks of a Fartbongo hit.
 
2012-10-09 02:27:05 PM  

depmode98: The reason why this happened is because the scarcity of guns in the house. If every family member owned a gun, this would never have happened. The fewer guns there are, the more people die.


Is it racist if you call it a "mexican standoff"? What if your family is actually Mexican? Is it OK then? I realize if you're like Peruvian or Cuban then it's totally racist, but what if your family is FROM Cuba but your parental grandfather was born in Mexico, and can trace his lineage to Montezuma? Then I think it would be OK to call it a Mexican standoff. But if he was German then it's back to being racist.
 
2012-10-09 02:27:21 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Naturally, the community was shocked.


Indubitably my good man. Indubitably.
 
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