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2012-10-09 09:45:30 AM
6 votes:

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Have you been asleep for 18 months? The Republicans don't care if you call them liars. They celebrate it, because annoying a liberal counts as a victory to them. The debate showed that style matters more than substance. If this is the one thing that resonates from the debate, use it. This is what people will remember. I wish that's not the way that life worked, but it is.
2012-10-09 10:00:06 AM
5 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.


That would be Bush
2012-10-09 11:20:31 AM
4 votes:

Lupine Chemist: Lando Lincoln: Lupine Chemist: WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!

You DO realize that Obama can put out more than one ad at a time, right?

The point is they're not controlling the conversation. They have people talking about the shiatty debate and a stupid point from it that really comes across as whining. At this point in the game you should have one or two killer weaknesses identified in your opposition and be doing everything you can to just hammer at it. Think John Kerry flip flopper or Sarah Palin is dumb and dangerous type things. Like it or not, Romney is controlling the narrative because Obama is deciding to phone it in while people are currently able to vote early.



*Sigh*

I'm so tired of the microwave generation. Everything happens instantly. Everything always changes forever at the drop of a dime...until it changes back, and you all react to it violently. About a week ago, Obama was going to be King of Earth for the foreseeable future and his dismantling of Romney at the debate was going to be a fun day for Democrats. One percieved loss of a debate and everythings suddenly gone to shiat. How did Obama go from the cold, calculating mercinary whose campaign was run like a machine to a bumbling oaf who isn't controlling the message? Settle the fark down.
2012-10-09 09:21:11 AM
4 votes:
jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.
2012-10-09 08:42:56 AM
3 votes:
Too snarky. It doesn't strike the right tone. A straightforward "Mitt Romney will let Wall Street run rampant, but he'll crack down on Sesame Street" would have been more effective. This comes off kinda bratty.
2012-10-09 10:06:05 AM
2 votes:

Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?


ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.


I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.
2012-10-09 09:54:32 AM
2 votes:

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


They've been running that non stop since the day after the debate here in Florida. Wtf are you talking about?
2012-10-09 09:54:02 AM
2 votes:

JerseyTim: Too snarky. It doesn't strike the right tone. A straightforward "Mitt Romney will let Wall Street run rampant, but he'll crack down on Sesame Street" would have been more effective. This comes off kinda bratty.


To be fair:

"The Obama campaign confirmed to TPM the ad will run on broadcast and cable nationally. The campaign said the ad buys will be "targeting comedy shows specifically," suggesting the ads will run in late night. "


So, it's meant to run on The Daily Show and Colbert. It's supposed to sound bratty.
2012-10-09 09:53:34 AM
2 votes:

Bhruic: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Yeah, because the undecided voter is studious and involved, and is really interested in numbers. The people that are left to be gotten are the people who have the potential to see something like this, and have it resonate as a "Mitt is dumb" moment. And then vote for Obama. Talking to them about tax cuts? Not so much.


You're exactly right. If someone is still undecided at this point they most likely don't care enough to actually work St understanding issues. What will sway them is sound bites and general good or bad feelings about a candidate.
2012-10-09 09:49:33 AM
2 votes:
Don't worry. Hillary is on it.
i.imgur.com
2012-10-09 09:47:08 AM
2 votes:

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Yeah, because the undecided voter is studious and involved, and is really interested in numbers. The people that are left to be gotten are the people who have the potential to see something like this, and have it resonate as a "Mitt is dumb" moment. And then vote for Obama. Talking to them about tax cuts? Not so much.
2012-10-09 09:46:23 AM
2 votes:

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


This is the stuff that shows up on Fark.com. You know, the website with the by-line: "It's not news." Using Fark as a news source will distort your perception of what's actually happening in the election. And by 'distort', I mean amuse you while you widdle away the hours waiting to forget to vote.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-09 09:09:13 AM
2 votes:

IamKaiserSoze!!!: I think Obama might to well to walk away from last weeks debate. Any reference to it just reminds paople of his and Romney's performance.


Why does he care? How many undecided people are there?
2012-10-09 12:30:00 PM
1 votes:

hubcity: tenpoundsofcheese: Lost Thought 00: Well, his writers did well. Now if he could only do as well when he's speaking off script

Yes. Romney should show pity and let 0bama use a TelePrompTer

He does a lot better than when he has to think and speak

Jeez, I unblock trolls and all I get is this weak sauce? Feh.


Its rather telling when they go out of their way to defend and follow every republican position time and time again, and then procede to lie about not being a republican.
2012-10-09 11:54:34 AM
1 votes:

Lupine Chemist: But the campaign's reaction is not sharp and crisp and focused like it should be.


you kind of just demonstrated DROxINxTHExWIND's point.
2012-10-09 11:37:10 AM
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: Well, his writers did well. Now if he could only do as well when he's speaking off script


Christ, you really are a fair-weather friend, aren't you?
2012-10-09 11:35:54 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


The ads in the swing states cover those topics quite thoroughly (at least in Florida).

Romney released an ad calling Obama a liar about Romney's tax plan and cited a non-partisan study that proved that Romney's tax plan can work. The source of that "Non-Partisan" study was the American Enterprise Institute.

A few days later, the Obama campaign came out with an ad attacking this one and pointed out that the "non-Partisan" American Enterprise Institute is filled with stooges from the GOP and Bain Capital.

If they keep calling out Romney on his lies like that, Obama might be able to regain some ground that he lost last week to the debate.
2012-10-09 11:13:25 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: Helpful farker: It actually falls under copyright law and the owners are not required to protect the copyright.
Cletus: So, by staying silent they are granting permission, it seems. Seems dicey to use the image if they didn't have permission and the copyright owners chose to make it an issue.
Other farkers, in unison: Why wouldn't they allow it? Romney wants to de-feather and gut Big Bird?
Cletus: Well, Big Bird's owners declared themselves nonpartisan, plus their connection to PBS, which receives government funding, makes it seem unwise to jump into politics.


There's your problem. You're assuming it's an issue. You're assuming it's dicey. They don't have to do shiat, and said not doing shiat is the best thing for them. No one else thinks this could be problematic for the makers of Sesame Street. That is where you're concern trolling. Speculating about a problem where no one else sees one, just to find some bad angle from it.
2012-10-09 11:10:19 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: Cletus: Did the Obama campaign have permission to use the trademarked image of Big Bird?
Some farker: Oh, the talking points are out, I see.
Helpful farker: It actually falls under copyright law and the owners are not required to protect the copyright.
Cletus: So, by staying silent they are granting permission, it seems. Seems dicey to use the image if they didn't have permission and the copyright owners chose to make it an issue.
Other farkers, in unison: Why wouldn't they allow it? Romney wants to de-feather and gut Big Bird?
Cletus: Well, Big Bird's owners declared themselves nonpartisan, plus their connection to PBS, which receives government funding, makes it seem unwise to jump into politics.
Some farkers: You sound tired.
Other farkers: You are a troll.
Cletus: Jeebus, why freak out over a question that is probably going to be raised all over the place soon. And it's a stupid issue that distracts from important stuff, don't you think?
More farkers: You sound tired. Tee hee.
Cletus: Bored and tired are not necessarily the same thing.


Not a lot of people go through such lengths to show the world that they don't know how to listen.
2012-10-09 11:02:58 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.

Sounds like you're counting on it.

Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

True. Trolling deserves ignoring. It won't happen again.

Trolling: An accusation often used to dismiss an opposing or inarguable viewpoint with which you disagree. When you reach into your intellectual quiver and and your hand goes straight to the bottom.


Or, in other words, everything you post.

When I look up in my dictionary, at troll, I see
Troll -n: slang computing a person who submits deliberately inflammatory articles to an internet discussion.
Example: Anything Cletus C. posts.
2012-10-09 10:57:29 AM
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Me & my big mouth. I stand corrected on Wall st. bailouts.

That said, are Sesame Street and its characters profitable and copyrighted/ trademarked, or are they reliant government funding for their existence? It was my understanding that they were very profitable, and that it's only the local stations that rely on government funds.


Let me explain the issue to you in priority sequence:

1) it is about the seriousness of tackling the debt and how Romney isn't serious
2) it is about PBS as an expensive non-commercial information sources to the general public
3) it is about early childhood development and how that helps education/socialization overall
4) it is about how Romney even looks disconnected when he tries to reference a popular cultural icon
5) Big Bird is purely a symbol of hope and joy, an icon that speaks to the past as well of the future and dirty Liberals love that shiat.
2012-10-09 10:44:24 AM
1 votes:
i449.photobucket.com
2012-10-09 10:42:55 AM
1 votes:
WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!

Seriously, Obama and the Chicago crew have always been great organizers and painfully sharp and on point and they're just phoning it just a few weeks before the election. There's no more time for long game BS, endgame time to go in for the kill is NOW!
2012-10-09 10:41:52 AM
1 votes:
www.gop.com
IMAGE HOSTED ON GOP.COM

So what is this GOP talking point about paying to use Big Bird in a campaign ad again?
2012-10-09 10:40:30 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.

Sounds like you're counting on it.

Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.


True. Trolling deserves ignoring. It won't happen again.
2012-10-09 10:37:47 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: Big Bird is big money. Care to answer the question?


Sure. Something tells me the Obama administration called Jim Henson Studios and asked if they could use Big Bird's likeness, and Jim Henson Studios said, "Absolutely. Let us know if you need any artwork."
2012-10-09 10:36:18 AM
1 votes:

GoldSpider: That's money well spent, because viewers of those shows aren't already decided.


You don't just have to speak to the decided. You have to speak to the base to get them to show up. You have to energize them. If the base stays home the undecided is worthless.
2012-10-09 10:33:19 AM
1 votes:

Millennium: Key to understanding Romney's position with respect to public broadcasting is that he believes it will survive the cuts. Certainly it would have to adapt to not getting government funding, but given how little of its funding comes from the government as-is, he believes it is robust enough make that transition successfully, and that since it can, it should.


The problem with that is pretty succinctly put by a post I saw on FB earlier today:
TLC was founded by NASA and the Health Department in 1972 as an educational channel. Then it was privatized. Now it shows Honey Boo Boo.
2012-10-09 10:33:06 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Don't know what state you're in, but here in NC we're getting Obama ads blasting Romney for denying he had a $5 trillion tax cut, and pointing out that if he lies in a debate, he can't be trusted to not lie as President.
2012-10-09 10:25:28 AM
1 votes:

GoldSpider: eldritch2k4: So, it's meant to run on The Daily Show and Colbert. It's supposed to sound bratty.

That's money well spent, because viewers of those shows aren't already decided.


they may have already decided, but they probably haven't already voted.
2012-10-09 10:24:15 AM
1 votes:

MyRandomName: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Still going with the Obama lie about 5 trillion, huh? The tax policy centw r already walked back their initial estimate by more than half due to American enterprise institute pointing out one of numerous flaws. So even if you believe tpc is the only economic analysts out there, you and Obama are repeating a stance they already backed off from. Other policy groups have already shown how Romney and his plan work multiple times. The tpc report was full of failed assumptions Romney never made. But keep being an Obama mouthpiece for lies, it is what fark expects from you.


This is where you are 100% wrong. No,the TPC has NOT, in any way, backed off of it's analysis. Why do you people keep repeating this crap?
2012-10-09 10:09:22 AM
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.



Hammertoe,

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) or "Wall Street Bailout" was passed and signed into law on October 3, 2008. Two and a half months before Obama was inaugurated, you dolt!

Damn that Obama and his magical time machine, striking once again - implementing the Wall Street Bailout before he even took office so he could conveniently place the blame for any of it's failings on his predecessor George W. Bush.
2012-10-09 10:05:05 AM
1 votes:

CPennypacker: HAMMERTOE: Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.

That would be Bush


To his credit. And to Obama and bidens credit, they voted for the "bail out" too, unlike many GOPers in congress who would have let the world burn.
2012-10-09 10:03:04 AM
1 votes:
I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.
2012-10-09 09:59:27 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


People are generally lazy and dumb with short attention spans. Explaining that you would have to cut 200 PBSs to pay for Romney's planned military spending increases is too complicated for half the country, let alone attempting to explain that your overall taxes can go up even if your rate goes down if deductions are cut, and only someone who pans for gold in their bathtub would be optimistic enough to think you could not only get the average voter to understand the differences between salary, dividends and capital gains and how they are treated by the IRS but also to override their emotional reactions to these issues.

Killing Big Bird is a simple and easy to understand concept at about the level where your average undecided voter can understand national policy issues.
2012-10-09 09:59:11 AM
1 votes:
I want to see Big Bird suits being deployed to every major polling place in every swing state in this country.
2012-10-09 09:58:43 AM
1 votes:

GoldSpider: eldritch2k4: So, it's meant to run on The Daily Show and Colbert. It's supposed to sound bratty.

That's money well spent, because viewers of those shows aren't already decided.


There are other late-night comedy shows, you know...
2012-10-09 09:56:56 AM
1 votes:

Bhruic: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Yeah, because the undecided voter is studious and involved, and is really interested in numbers. The people that are left to be gotten are the people who have the potential to see something like this, and have it resonate as a "Mitt is dumb" moment. And then vote for Obama. Talking to them about tax cuts? Not so much.


I agree with both comments to an extent.

Obama specifically and the Dems in general need to grow a pair and start fighting back and stop being door mats.

That noted, if Mitt can "win" a debate with bald faced lying and body language then sure the Dems should just go with what works, with what finds traction and resonance with the haplessly fickle undecideds.

Even if it's a seven foot tall talking yellow bird.
2012-10-09 09:55:22 AM
1 votes:

blackminded: We can go ahead and drop the "Nailed it" meme whenever you guys are ready.

/thanks


Nailed it
2012-10-09 09:52:00 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


So you've missed the other ads the campaign has been running since the weekend.
2012-10-09 09:51:52 AM
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I really hope in the next debate Obama just completely ignores the moderator, turns to Romney and steamrolls him point by point on every single lie while actually using the word lie.


You mean, have a sack? Not President Buckles, I fear. More likely, he'll give Romney 98 percent of what he wants and consider it a fair deal.


/liberal in KY
/no hope no future
2012-10-09 09:51:39 AM
1 votes:
We can go ahead and drop the "Nailed it" meme whenever you guys are ready.

/thanks
2012-10-09 09:51:14 AM
1 votes:

JerseyTim: Too snarky. It doesn't strike the right tone. A straightforward "Mitt Romney will let Wall Street run rampant, but he'll crack down on Sesame Street" would have been more effective. This comes off kinda bratty.


Yeah, "Soft on Wall Street, tough on Sesame Street" would have flowed better, but it also sounds like a pretty obvious line. There's a good chance it's already been done.
2012-10-09 09:28:51 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Obama did in speeches after the debate. That doesn't excuse his performance but it doesn't mean he's not countering it. Of course, Big Bird makes better copy, no?
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-09 09:18:45 AM
1 votes:
hollywoodleek.com
2012-10-09 08:52:22 AM
1 votes:
I think Obama might to well to walk away from last weeks debate. Any reference to it just reminds paople of his and Romney's performance.
 
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